The Graham Norton Show - Season 33 Episode 04- Bruce Springsteen, Jeremy Allen White, Jennifer Lawrence, Tessa Thompson, Florence The Machine
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00:19Oh, too kind!
00:21Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you!
00:24Hello!
00:26Good evening, everyone!
00:28You are so welcome to the show.
00:30I tell you, I am blown away by tonight's line-up.
00:34I mean, I couldn't be more blown away
00:36if I was standing next to Celia Imrie on Celebrity Traitors.
00:44Something's been banished.
00:46And they should salute you, Celia.
00:48But hey, look who's here singing for us later.
00:51It's Florence and the Machine!
00:54Yeah!
00:56She'll be performing her new single, Everybody Scream!
01:00And there's lots to scream about on my sofa tonight.
01:04First off, this BAFTA nominated actor starred in Creed
01:06and kicked ass as Marvel's Valkyrie.
01:09Now brings us a dazzling reimagining of Ibsen's head-o-gobbler.
01:13It is Tessa Thompson, everybody!
01:15CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
01:17There she is!
01:19Hi!
01:20Hello!
01:21Oh, look!
01:22You're in the room!
01:23You're in the room!
01:24How does he do?
01:25She became a global star in the X-Men and Hunger Games film series.
01:31And by the age of 25, had four Oscar nominations to her name,
01:35including Silver Linings Playbook,
01:37which won her the Best Actress Award.
01:39Now she brings us a heart-wrenching performance in Die My Love.
01:43It is a warm welcome back to Jennifer Lawrence!
01:47CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
01:49Yeah!
01:50Hello!
01:53Hello!
01:54So nice to see you.
01:56Have a seat, do!
01:58Hello!
02:05As torture chef Carmi in The Bear.
02:08He's won two Emmys and three Golden Globes.
02:09And counting.
02:11Now he's playing one of the music's greatest icon in Springsteen.
02:21Deliver me from nowhere, it's Jeremy Alan White.
02:26And if you're wondering what the real Bruce Springsteen thinks of Jeremy's performance, let's ask him.
02:32He's one of the greatest American singer-songwriters and a true music legend.
02:37It's our good friend, Bruce Springsteen!
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02:58Um, I'm still not used to it.
03:01Uh, welcome back everyone, first time Jeremy.
03:04Hello, nice to see you.
03:05Hello, nice to see you.
03:06And, actually, welcome to the room Tessa.
03:08Yeah.
03:09Because you haven't been in this studio before.
03:10No, we were on Zoom.
03:11On the dreaded Zoom.
03:13This is better right?
03:14Yeah, much.
03:15Yeah!
03:16Yeah, free drink.
03:18And Bruce, here's the thing, you walked on there to Born to Run.
03:22This year, I think, is that not 50 years old?
03:24I was 10 when I recorded it. So yeah, I was born to walk
03:31And Jeremy Allen why I'm just cuz that we all love you in the bear, you know that
03:40Lots of actors on the show talking about playing real people. I don't think they've ever been on sat next to the real person
03:47Yeah, yeah, this is kind of unprecedented
03:49So how involved was Bruce during the filming? I mean Bruce Bruce was there
03:54We spent a little bit of time before we got started shooting
03:58We met here actually in London for the first time at Wembley
04:01I met him before a show and and we got together around New Jersey right before filming and then and then Bruce was around
04:07You know on set with us
04:10I always feel guilty about that. You know, I go like okay
04:13Not only does this fella have to play me. He has to play me while my stupid ass is sitting in the chair
04:22Watching himself. Oh, that's awful
04:27Have you apologized?
04:29But he was incredibly tolerant of me and I'm always thankful
04:33He was so generous of me of me being there and I and I had a great time and actually Tessa Elmer
04:38You have a really strong connection to Bruce. Yes deeply
04:42My dad went on tour with Bruce for a while during the secret session for a year
04:47Yeah, me and your papa played together and there you are there. Yeah, we went all around the world together
04:52Mark Anthony and he's fabulous musician and a great guy and I came to one of your shows
04:58Which was amazing really? Yeah, because you know growing up with the musician for father
05:02I would always go to shows with him and I I don't even know the early ones
05:06I went to when I was tiny but I would have like, you know cotton in my ears and my dad would put me on his shoulders
05:10And then we went to your show together and I kid you not the guy next to me said do you want to get on my shoulders?
05:15So you can see because I couldn't see anything your fans are so incredible
05:20And then I met you backstage
05:22Yeah, I almost asked for your shirt, but I decided not to
05:29Jennifer there's a slight link between you and Bruce because was it when you were filming mother?
05:35Yes tell us
05:37When I was filming mother and I would have to do really intense scenes
05:41I listened to a song of yours that would kind of bring me out of the funk really yeah, can you guess which song it was Bruce?
05:49Not born to run
05:51That would bring you out of the funk. Yeah, made me happy. It's not Nebraska. You can even save John
06:00Waiting on a sunny day
06:04Shall I put you out of your misery? Yes, it was this
06:11I'll try and try and try to be sad and listen to my dad
06:13I'll try and try and try and try to be sad and listen to my dad
06:14That always works, that always works
06:18Listen, we start tonight with our big two-hander Jeremy Allen White is Bruce Springsteen in Springsteen Delivery Me From Nowhere
06:32It's in cinemas from the 24th of October and here's some of the trailer to get us in the mood
06:38This is a highly unorthodox career move
06:42That's the point
06:43He's channeling something deeply personal
06:47But in this office
06:49My office
06:51We believe in Bruce Springsteen
06:53Everything dies
06:55Songwriting's a funny thing
06:57It's about searching for something
07:01Something that's gonna give your life a little bit of meaning
07:05This is where you're meant to go
07:07This is where you're meant to go
07:08This is where you're meant to go
07:09This is where you're meant to go
07:11Don't need to be perfect
07:17I just wanted to feel right
07:20I don't need to be perfect. I just want it to feel right
07:30And listen we should tell people that this isn't a biopic from boy to man it focuses on this really
07:38Specific moment in your life. Which of you wants to tell us about that?
07:43It's me you yes, you're yeah
07:45It only focuses on about a year and a half or two years in my life when I was making this record Nebraska and
07:56going through a variety of different personal struggles at the time and
08:01So it's it's it's nice. It's it's not a regular music. It's not really a musical biopic almost at all
08:07It's really a character driven drama with music
08:11You know and I'm around thinking these struggles that are portrayed in the film
08:15We didn't really know about them like they weren't widely known. Well, I wasn't disseminating that. I was losing my mind at the time. Yeah
08:25So I tried to get a big thing to know
08:32And Jeremy, you know you sing these songs I do you're a non
08:37singer so how well I suppose how daunting but also how the hell do you prepare from a standing start to
08:47Do that? Yeah, it was tough. I mean I've been a long time admirer of of
08:52Bruce's but it took me some time to sort of accept because I remember telling Scott or a director
08:58You know you sure you don't want to cast someone who already knows how to sing and play the guitar that might be easier for you guys
09:03in the end
09:05But I got together with like really talented people. I mean this guy Eric Vitro who
09:10Yes, yes, he works with a lot of singers
09:13He works with Sabrina Carpenter and Ariana Grande and Rosalia and those last helps a lot of actors
09:20Yeah, like like Austin Butler and Timothee Chalamet get ready for sort of these films and and so I worked with him
09:28about
09:29Six times a week for six months to sound
09:34Something like Bruce. Yeah, and was that kind of rasp in your voice already?
09:38Um, I think you get that rasp or I got that rasp from sort of seeing the songs over and over and over
09:48It kind of came it came naturally I'd have to get warmed up sing very hard and then I could kind of find that that voice
09:55Yeah, but but he does a very a very telling thing he he he sings the song
10:02Jeremy's performance is not imitative in any way
10:05You know when he's singing the songs he's he's leaning into the music's internal life and
10:12He captures the most important thing about about
10:15performing a piece of music and
10:17Not only does he do that in the in the songs, but he also does it in his performance and it just feels very very real and very very authentic
10:25You know it really is a distorted performance and we're just going to watch a bit of your performance performance you on stage goodness as Bruce
10:31This is you
10:33Performing born to run. This is Jeremy. Here we go
10:36Yeah
11:06Oh
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11:10You
11:12Isn't that amazing?
11:14Like
11:16It's like you're channeling him. It's amazing
11:18I'm like
11:20What strikes me is you must have had so much going on in your head
11:26Doing that because there's a real audience you're thinking the movements the voice that everything yeah, yeah, I mean it was it was daunting
11:32I remember those days being particularly sort of sort of scary
11:37You know, but but what's nice about those environments is you know, everything else is very real. I was on stage with real musicians
11:45The audience was really excited to see the actual Bruce Springsteen who was there that day
11:52You know everything was real except for me. I was really the only pretender, but once everything gets going
11:58Yeah, it's really easy to I guess get lost
12:02But the build-up. Yeah mind is racing trouble trouble
12:05Yes, yeah, and was it we're watching things like that big films odder than watching the more intimate scenes
12:12I'm gonna be stealing some of those moves on my next
12:18Extraordinary and did you always intend to be there as much as that?
12:22First part of the film when they first started we were touring in Canada, so I wasn't there
12:27but Scott the director said gee, you know, I'd like you to come, you know, so so I went put to
12:33I was all I always had a little bit of like John
12:36I don't know you know, but he was very kind about it. I appreciate it
12:41I think I think in the beginning in that first week when you're on any job whatever it is
12:45You know, you're kind of finding your footing and you're you're a little bit nervous and and I think in that first week
12:50I didn't know what to expect and you know
12:51You're kind of trying to like strum up some delusion and imagination and you know, you see the man you're playing in the corner
12:58It's difficult to kind of fall into that delusion, but but then he showed up so frequently it did it became a it became normal
13:07And then you know, I think like in his presence there was a a lot of permission for me and for Scott our director and and
13:15You know, he was a great support and to Bruce give you know something. No, I think he knows that would have broken
13:22That would have been unsafe because you you've both played real people. Did you get feedback from the real people?
13:29Um, no, I played Joy Mangano in the and Miracle Mall Joy
13:34Yeah, yeah inventor of the Miracle Mall, but no, I mean I I had like drinks with her occasionally, but I don't I think if she had come on set
13:42I would cry. Yeah, I played Diane Nash and she didn't give me any tips or anything
13:48But she had to approve my casting. So that felt really sweet that she said yeah
13:54I thought you were gonna say bitchy
13:58I mean that you say it
14:01She was like she'll do
14:03Actually, that's a good point the the costing did you have to approve Jeremy? No, no, I but all I said when when Scott came down to my house the first day
14:12We spoke
14:14I'd seen Jeremy on the bear
14:16I loved this performance
14:17I saw how the camera read his interior
14:21Life and how it read and how
14:25What a psychological actor he was and he was always he was the first guy I mentioned and he was there was there was no number
14:33He was my first choice. I still can't believe
14:36I feel very fortunate that he that he took the job and at Jeremy not a singer. He's not a singer, but he is now
14:44But a but a proper dancer
14:47Yes, I've been told yeah
14:50Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah child you studied and it's true. Yeah, yeah, I started around eight years old
14:56I had a lot of energy as a kid and my parents kind of threw me into anything and everything a lot of sports
15:02That wasn't enough. We did ballet tap and jazz for a very very long time until I was like 12 or 13
15:09I guess something like that and you still do the tap, right?
15:13Uh, no
15:15I thought in between takes you would do tap
15:18Yes, there is a sort of nervous tick I've found that people on set have told me I have which is kind of like during the setup in between
15:25Shots and stuff. I'll kind of do a shuffle ball change in place as a almost like a meditative sort of thing
15:34I didn't realize I did it until I was told by by castmates. Jennifer looks like she's never going to work with Jeremy Allen, right?
15:42No, I just I I just didn't expect it
15:47I'm like I didn't know that that was really you singing as I'm like wow and then like kickball change. I'm just like wow
15:53Like there's just all sorts of different directions
15:57But Jennifer when you were young, I love your parents for those parents. They were so encouraged
16:01I really the info I hate the information that you got
16:06Your mother your mother particularly
16:09My mom thought I could do anything. She was just like you are so pretty and you can sing
16:13And so I was like, okay, and so I sang in front of my school and I can't I cannot sing
16:17There's like a video of it. It's really really bad. I'm weirdly it's it's almost it's also a Christmas. It's also a Christmas song
16:26You're obsessed with Christmas
16:28I love Christmas
16:30So were you finding out in real time that you couldn't sing?
16:34Yeah
16:35I kind of I had it I had an inkling at rehearsals because I remember just like not knowing like what key and I was just like
16:44I saw our
16:48Lady kind of go like
16:52People started laughing and I and that was when I was kind of like I wonder if I'm not as good as my mom
16:58But it didn't stop me from going in front of the whole school
17:02Well Tessa you are a musician like your dad
17:05You sing and in Creed as Bianca we saw you sing but apparently you were hanging out with musicians and that did not end well
17:14Yeah, well no, I mean so I grew up around musicians a lot and so I've sort of come from a musical family
17:22But I'm not a trained musician at all
17:25But when we were making these create I was like I really want to immerse myself in the musicians life
17:30And Ludwig Gorison and I locked ourselves in a studio for two weeks to make this original music which was so fun
17:35And mostly we just like eight noodles and you know tried to make up these songs
17:40But also we invite these amazing musicians in and some of them like to like smoke a little pot
17:45So one day I was like well I should I'm gonna do that because now I'm a musician
17:49It was your first and only time. No
17:52But it was like
17:54The stoniest I've ever been in my entire life. Just so stoned
18:01Like I remember just being there on the couch then being like okay, let's lay down some vocals and being like I don't know how to move
18:07Did you think everybody was mad at you?
18:10Yeah, everyone was mad. I was mad at myself. I had to go outside to like be like
18:13Like okay, I get back in there. You can do it
18:17And then I did and we got through and it was fine, but I was okay
18:19I'm never gonna smoke pot again when I have to perform
18:22Lesson learnt. Yes, that was up
18:25I used to do a thing where I'd go out in the middle of the concert
18:30Somebody would hand me a full beer and I'd chug the beer
18:33It was always okay. I went to Germany
18:35Beer is very strong in Germany and somebody handed me a huge
18:45A huge cup of beer and I go okay. I'm gonna get it down
18:49Chug chug chug chug chug chug chug chug chug chug chug chug chug chug chug chug chug chug chug chug chug
18:52I get the whole thing down and about 30 seconds later I realized
18:57I'm stoned out of my fucking
19:00Was it like ecstasy?
19:02Yeah, I got on stage and I said I sound so fucking good
19:07Yeah, yeah
19:09I can't believe
19:13These people are so lucky
19:16And very greatly Bruce, I just wonder
19:19Having been through this process of making the film with Jeremy, whatever
19:23Like when you go to perform now, do you think it's gonna make you kind of self-conscious?
19:27Where you go, oh, I'm doing that thing with my shoulders now
19:29You know, well the funny thing was was he did pick up a lot of my onstage mannerisms
19:35So it does make me think oh, yeah, I do do that, you know, so I think I'll be alright
19:42I think you'll be alright
19:44Yeah, we'll get back into the swing of it
19:45Just a reminder you can see Jeremy Allen White as Bruce in Springsteen delivery from nowhere
19:51And that's from next Friday
19:53Okay
19:58Meanwhile, Jennifer Lawrence brings us a powerful drama
20:02It's called Die My Love
20:03It's in cinemas from the 7th of November
20:07And this is really your baby
20:10I mean your production company made it
20:12But the project was brought to you by a very posh person
20:16Well, I don't know if you've ever heard of this filmmaker Martin Scorsese
20:20He read the book in his book club
20:27That's adorable, isn't it?
20:28Who else is in his book club?
20:29I don't know
20:30Oh man, we gotta figure that out
20:31I know, and like I could ask
20:32Yeah, you should ask
20:33I just don't want to bother him
20:35But, yeah, and he was like I think that you should play this character
20:39And then when I read the book it was like it was
20:41I had a hard time kind of imagining it as a movie
20:43Because it's all like inside her head
20:45But I wasn't like gonna go back to Marty and be like
20:47I don't know, I think it's a bad idea
20:49And it's you and Robert Pattinson
20:51And you play a young couple
20:53Yeah
20:54But then a baby enters your life
20:56Yes
20:57A baby and we have a big move
20:59A baby enters our life
21:02We start going through some marital, you know, troubles
21:07And I'm getting a little cuckoo in my face
21:11Um
21:13That's it
21:14You and Robert are so good in this film
21:18Before we talk about it tomorrow
21:19Let's look at a clip
21:20Uh, this is you and Robert Pattinson
21:22Uh, well essentially not getting on
21:25This place is a fucking hole
21:27You moved us into it
21:28I am working
21:29And when I come home
21:30I'm the one cleaning everything up
21:31Oh, yeah
21:32Three days a week
21:33When we shower you in metals
21:35Shut up
21:36You have an ashtray on the carpet
21:38You don't think the baby's eating that shit?
21:39Shut up
21:41Move us into the house
21:42Where your uncle shot himself up the fucking ass
21:45Oh my god
21:46Up the ass
21:47Up the fucking ass
21:48Stop
21:49I knew it
21:50I knew it
21:51I knew it
21:52Why are you short someone?
21:53Why do you not have your short time?
21:55Shut up
21:56Jesus Christ
21:57Fucking sanctimonious dick
21:58You're probably pissed off for yourself
21:59Blame it on the fucking dog
22:00It was your mangy dog
22:01And sanctimonious means that you think you're morally superior to other people, definitely
22:05Where's your book going, by the way?
22:06Fantastic, thank you
22:08Great American novel
22:09The main character is about to batter her husband to death with a hammer
22:12Sounds like shit
22:13Well, you can't read
22:14Well, you can't read, so
22:15Maybe
22:16Maybe
22:17If you spend littlest time
22:18More than my pants
22:19More than my pants
22:20More than my writing
22:21Maybe
22:22I'd write something
22:23Maybe
22:24My hands are down my pants
22:25Cause you put your dick everywhere except there, asshole
22:28I love that scene, all that rage trying not to wake a baby
22:43Yeah
22:44There were so many moments like that
22:46Cause you read the script and it's like, oh fighting, you know, when they have a baby
22:49And everything
22:50But Rob and I are both parents
22:51I mean, he had a new baby, like a newborn baby
22:54And so we were like, there was a scene where we were in the car
22:57We were supposed to be screaming at each other and the baby was supposed to be in the car
23:00And then we were like, we can't
23:01We will traumatize this child
23:04And so there were lots of, I don't know
23:08The babies ended up having a great time, Victoria and Kennedy
23:12And they were very well taken care of
23:16And I just wondered, you know, you and Robert Pattinson
23:19In an odd way, you share this kind of almost unique experience
23:24Where you both found enormous early fame in big franchise movies
23:31And I wondered, did that bond you in any way?
23:33Or was it kind of a, oh, that's a thing back then?
23:35Not really, I think cause like, what else?
23:37I mean, if you think I didn't ask him about Donald Trump tweeting about the breakup with Kristen
23:42Obviously
23:43Oh my god
23:44Yes
23:45Yes
23:46I don't remember that at all
23:47He was like, it was like three days after the photos came out
23:50With her, with, you know, whatever
23:52Young people make mistakes
23:53Um, and Donald Trump was like, he'd better leave her
23:57Like, he can do better than her
23:59Like, a huge rant
24:00That's like a different kind of, I made it, you know?
24:02Yeah
24:03Yeah
24:04I mean, he wasn't president
24:05Yeah
24:06Right
24:07Yeah, we could sleep at night
24:08Um, but
24:09Anyway, I brought that up
24:10But, um, no, that wasn't
24:13We, I think we bonded mostly
24:14This is so boring
24:15But like, over our kids
24:16Cause like, when you have kids, babies
24:18Like, you just wanna show people like, videos and pictures
24:21And, you know
24:22But you, I know you had him over
24:23Uh
24:24Okay
24:25Did you have him over for dinner?
24:26So
24:27Not exactly
24:28So I had my girlfriends over
24:29We were in our pajamas
24:31We were watching Little Women
24:32It was December
24:33Um
24:34So we were watching both versions
24:35Right around Christmas time
24:36Yes
24:37Um, and then
24:38And he was like, hey
24:39I just wrapped something like, a block away from you
24:41And I was like, oh my god
24:42Cause Rob
24:43Is one of the girls
24:44Like, he wants to gossip
24:45He wants to
24:46Like, he is just one of the gals
24:48And so I was like, come over
24:49But he's also like
24:51My daughter
24:52Like, he's very
24:54He's a great father
24:55He's a professional
24:56He shows up on time
24:57But like, I wouldn't like, trust that like
24:59He like, put a coat on
25:01Or like, you know
25:02Like, he's not gonna like, eat on time
25:04Or something
25:05He like, brings out a very like, maternal
25:07So he comes in
25:08And I give him a hug
25:09And he's like, you have any food?
25:11So hungry
25:12And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah
25:14Come in, come in
25:15And then he goes to the bathroom
25:16And I do have food
25:17But it's in the trash
25:18And so while he was in the bathroom
25:20I was just like, pulling food out of my garbage can
25:24And my girlfriends were like
25:26And my girlfriends were like
25:27And I'm like
25:28And I'm like
25:29And then so he eats it
25:30And we're all just kind of like
25:31Watching him eat this trash
25:35And then when he was finished
25:37He was like, I'm still hungry
25:38There's no mole
25:39And I'm like
25:40Well there is
25:41But it's in the garbage
25:42And he was like
25:43I don't mind
25:44And then he was like
25:45The trash
25:46He kept eating it
25:47He sounds like the ideal house guest
25:51Yeah, yeah
25:54And this film
25:55This is made by your production company
25:57Yes
25:58And this is you kind of
25:59Taking control
26:00And being, you know
26:01Choosing your projects
26:02Carefully
26:03Because
26:04Was there a time
26:05Where you kind of wanted to step away
26:07You wanted to kind of
26:08Take the heat off
26:09Being Jennifer Lawrence
26:10Yeah, I made Covid happen
26:11Okay
26:14That'll do it
26:15Yeah, I was just like
26:16I was just like
26:17I want to take a break
26:18And it was like
26:19The world is shutting down
26:20Yeah
26:21I took a little time
26:22I mean
26:23I was like working all my 20s
26:24You know
26:25So then I was like
26:26What's out here?
26:27Yeah
26:28What's going on?
26:29And did you worry about
26:30You know
26:31Maybe
26:32You wouldn't be able to get back into it
26:33Or
26:34I think I was like
26:35I think I was at peace
26:36With that possibility
26:38Yeah
26:39Of happening
26:40I was like
26:41You know
26:42This is
26:43A lot
26:44I think I would have been fine
26:45Well, I mean
26:46No
26:47I mean I would be really upset
26:48But I don't know
26:49No, because Jeremy
26:50Obviously because of the bear
26:51You're famous everywhere
26:52But in Chicago
26:53You're
26:54Like
26:55Apparently
26:56Unbelievably famous in Chicago
26:57Extra famous in Chicago
26:58Yeah
26:59Yeah
27:00Yes
27:01Is it fun?
27:02Is it fun?
27:03Um
27:04Uh
27:05Yeah
27:06I mean
27:07I can get like a dinner reservation
27:08And that kind of stuff is really nice
27:10And
27:11But I do have
27:12I mean
27:13After the first season was as successful as it was
27:16They gave me a security guard
27:19This wonderful man Moody
27:21Um
27:22And Moody
27:23Um
27:24And Moody follows me around
27:25On set everywhere
27:26And
27:27Um
27:28There was one particular evening
27:29We were shooting on location
27:30Uh
27:31In Chicago
27:32And we were very near a
27:33Um
27:34Or very near a
27:35School
27:36A college
27:37And there was kind of like
27:38A group of
27:39Mostly very small
27:40Young women
27:41That were like
27:42Excited to see everybody there
27:43You
27:44They were excited to see you
27:45I was there
27:46And
27:47Um
27:48And they were kind of barricaded
27:49Very very far away from where we were shooting
27:52And I kind of get out of the van
27:54And I'm approaching
27:55And they all kind of shout out
27:57Again they're maybe 20 yards away
28:00They start shouting
28:01And Moody
28:02This very large man
28:04Lifts me in the air
28:05By my hips
28:07Parries me up the stairs
28:09Shoves me in the door
28:11As if these young women were gonna
28:12You know
28:13Really
28:14Really get me
28:15And I remember telling him
28:16Please do not
28:17Ever
28:18Ever
28:19Grab me by the hips again
28:21That was so funny
28:22So
28:23So insane
28:24And he felt very bad
28:25I love you Moody
28:26If you're
28:27If you're seeing this
28:28It's all okay
28:29But it was a wild wild thing that he did
28:31Yeah
28:32Not good
28:33I have the same problem
28:34Except everyone is 70
28:35And you don't have to worry about it
28:43And now
28:44Tessa
28:45You're another actor
28:46Who you've got a production company now
28:47You're kind of taking control of your career
28:49What's your production company called?
28:50It's called Viva Maude
28:51Oh
28:52That's a good name
28:53That's a good name
28:54Like this spirit of a character called Maude from a movie that I love called Herald and Maude
28:58Oh yeah
28:59Well listen the first project from Tessa's production company to hit the screens is HEDDA
29:03It's available to watch globally on Prime Video starting on the 29th of October
29:10So the source material for this is HEDDA Gobbler
29:13Yeah
29:14But this is a
29:15How you describe it?
29:16It's more than an adaptation isn't it?
29:17It's sort of a reimagining
29:19I mean we've tried to capture the spirit of the play but it's set in 1950s in the UK in an English country house
29:25It sort of feels like part murder mystery in a way and Nia DaCosta who's the brilliant director writer has sort of updated the text in some interesting ways
29:34One of the iconic characters from the piece has been gender swap so it feels
29:39Yeah different than the original but hopefully for people that like it it satisfies that too
29:44Alright well here's a clip just to give us a taste of the feel of the whole thing
29:48Have you seen?
29:49What?
29:50What an age
29:51HEDDA darling
29:52What are you up to?
29:54You'll see
29:55You'll not leave you know
29:56Best to resist temptation
29:58Ah come on Eileen
29:59You're stronger than that
30:02What is good into you?
30:05Sometimes I can't help myself
30:08Jesus these people
30:10Why are you like this?
30:13What are you so afraid of?
30:15I hope you're happy
30:21Don't I look happy?
30:23Woo!
30:24That was so fun!
30:29Thank you so much
30:30What did you say?
30:34I said her cheekbones are fucked up
30:39In a beautiful way
30:41Yeah, now here's the thing everyone's very familiar with the story of Hedda Gobbler but just a little refresher for the people what is Hedda Gobbler about?
30:51The original piece is about a woman named Hedda Gobbler or Gobbler depending on how you want to say it and she is in a marriage that she isn't too happy with and someone from her past comes along and kind of unravels her night. In our rendition there's so in the original piece there's a party that happens off stage. In our rendition we brought everything to the party. So the film is a big party and also it is significantly gayer.
31:07And kinkier than Ibsen's original. Yes stupid Henrik. Here's the thing though. English accent very good. Thanks very much. Such a specific English accent. Yeah. Where how did you find it if you know what I mean?
31:20We like the idea of it being sort of like I want I don't really like like very close to the Queen's English. I just think it's so fantastic. And I like people that are like so posh that they just don't even move their mouths at all. You know, like I really love that. We couldn't go quite there.
31:35But it's sort of inspired by a lot of voices during that time. And of course we have heard your English accent before as Valkyrie in Thor. But that was filmed in New Zealand. So apparently the New Zealand accents were more challenging than the your English accent.
31:50Oh yeah, hugely. I think it's been sort of like I really like very close to the Queen's English. I just think it's so fantastic. And I like people that are like so posh that they just don't even move their mouths at all. You know, like I really love that. We couldn't go quite there but it's sort of inspired by a lot of voices during that time.
32:04Oh yeah, hugely because they, I mean, first of all, our accents and that are sort of like in the comics, it's just italic. So we do like a inspired by. But in New Zealand, they say like instead of they say, well, Natalie Portman, because she's so much shorter than Chris Hemsworth, they had to build this deck for her so that when they're walking alongside each other, they look like they're relatively the same height.
32:29It's adorable. But in New Zealand, it's so sweet. And she just like always had to have it around.
32:35That's true.
32:36You said you do that sometimes? I feel like sometimes I need an apple box so things don't look too strange. Yeah.
32:42Yeah. That is so cute. I live that life too.
32:45So she had this deck that they built, but there with the accent, it doesn't sound like deck.
32:53Sounds like something else? Yes.
32:54So they'd come in and they'd be like, just bring in the deck.
32:59Natalie's got to get on the deck.
33:02Fantastic. And we really loved it.
33:05I thought it was hard to keep an English accent when you're surrounded by New Zealand accents.
33:09Yeah.
33:09That's why it's, you know, hodgepodge.
33:12It was perfect.
33:13But it wasn't just the accent. You've been very vocal about the costume as well. You did not like Valkyrie's costume.
33:19No, I love her costume. I just think that, I don't know if you felt this, no one prepares you for when you play a super, oh my God.
33:27So uncomfortable.
33:28Why do they do it?
33:29They didn't give me like a thing to pee, like with Mystique.
33:33There was nothing. I mean, I couldn't pee.
33:36Okay, so the first.
33:37They were like, she doesn't have to go to the bathroom.
33:38Same. So I had that issue and then I was like, we have to do something about this.
33:42Yeah.
33:42And so they put like a zip in there, but you still have the whole costume.
33:46Oh, they gave me a funnel.
33:48Yeah, they gave me that too.
33:49They gave me that too, but I was like, I don't, I can't.
33:52Good for you.
33:52I don't, I can't do it.
33:55Well, rock on.
33:57You used the funnel?
33:58Yeah, I was like, oh, sorry.
34:00It was mostly, did you ever have accidents with it?
34:04Mm-hmm.
34:06So you were just like, I would just like come back with little drops of pee.
34:10Same.
34:10And everybody was like, oh.
34:14That's why I was afraid, it was more that I was afraid of my ability with the funnel.
34:18I'm so impressed that you've made it work.
34:20Well, I mean, not, you know, perfectly.
34:23You use the funnel?
34:23Yes, I very often.
34:24Bruce uses the funnel.
34:26Well, you were born with a funnel, no?
34:30I have two sons, I know how this works.
34:37And, oh, here's the thing.
34:39Jeremy, you know about big movie franchises because you are, you're joining the Star Wars world, aren't you?
34:44You are.
34:45Yes, it's true.
34:47Yeah.
34:47Yes.
34:48Now, is this correct, you are playing Rotter the Hutt?
34:51That's correct.
34:52Rotter, yes.
34:54And is Rotter any relation to Jabba the Hutt?
34:58That's correct, yes.
34:59Oh.
35:00That's Dad.
35:02Oh.
35:03Yeah.
35:03I'm hoping the apple fell quite far from the tree.
35:08You know, it's interesting.
35:09I can't say too much about it.
35:11But, no, I look very much like that in the film.
35:14I just do voice work in the film.
35:16I'm not, you know, putting on any...
35:18So you won't need a funnel?
35:19No funnel necessary.
35:21No, no, no, no.
35:21He has a funnel.
35:22We have our funnels.
35:25He's just a bit broader, but still like a Hutt, yes.
35:30It's kind of like him and the Mandalorian running around for a lot of the movie together.
35:35So Rotter can run.
35:37Rotter can move, yeah, quickly, yes.
35:39Okay.
35:40Yeah, yeah, yeah.
35:41I'm intrigued.
35:42Yeah, good.
35:43And very quickly, Bruce, your band, the Cast...
35:46I say, the Castiles.
35:47That's correct.
35:48Was it...
35:49Were you literally named after the soap?
35:51Yes, I was.
35:52Or we were.
35:53Did you pick...
35:54I mean, how did you come up with that name?
35:55It was a popular shampoo in Freehold, New Jersey at the time.
36:00And in those days, it was kind of on the cusp of the 50s and 60s,
36:06so names like the Dells, the Chirelles, you know,
36:11so the Castiles sounded, you know, suited for its moment anyway.
36:16And how old were you when you were in the Castiles?
36:18I was 15.
36:1915.
36:19We've got a picture of you in the Castiles, age 15.
36:23Here we go.
36:25Now...
36:25Wow.
36:30I know, guess which one.
36:31I know, guess which one.
36:32I mean, I figured it out by elimination, but it's not obvious at all.
36:37It's the guy with all the acne.
36:40Well, that doesn't narrow it down.
36:45It's this one, right?
36:46That's correct.
36:47Yeah.
36:48I mean, you two look really different.
36:50You're the hottest one.
36:51The one on your right, who's he?
36:56He got in the band because he was just so handsome.
36:59Right.
37:00I still think he's number two.
37:01And his hair was perfect.
37:04A friend of mine, Paul Popkin.
37:06Which meant a lot in those days.
37:10And I'm guessing you were slightly influenced by the Beatles, would I be right?
37:13Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
37:15It's just a whiff of it.
37:16And let me tell you, it took a lot to get my hair that straight.
37:20I'm going to tell you, I used to have to steal my mother's long bobby pins and stick it in my hair at night and sleep it like this on the pillow until it would be some semblance of fabulous thing.
37:37That was worth it.
37:38That was fabulous.
37:39Look at you there.
37:40And with a Bruce Springsteen, everybody.
37:42And right, it's time for music.
37:52Since her debut in 2009, she has won Brit Awards, headlined Glass Marie, and sold over 10 million albums worldwide.
37:58Here performing her new single, Everybody Scream, it is Florence and the Machine.
38:12I get on stage, and I call her by her first name.
38:28I try to stay away, but I always meet her back at this place.
38:36She gives me everything, I feel no pain.
38:43I break down, get up, and do it all again.
38:47Because it's never enough.
38:49She makes me feel loved, and I can come here and scream as loud as I want.
38:57Everybody sing!
39:01Everybody sing!
39:04Everybody sing!
39:06Everybody sing!
39:07Everybody sing!
39:08Everybody sing!
39:09Everybody sing!
39:10Everybody sing!
39:11Everybody sing!
39:12Here I don't have to be quiet, here I don't have to be kind.
39:16Extraordinary and normal all at the same time.
39:20But look at me run myself ragged, blood on the stage.
39:24But how can I leave you when you're screaming my name?
39:34Screaming my name!
39:43But I'll come for you in the evening, racket and reeling.
39:47Shocking my gold like a tambourine.
39:51A bouquet of brambles, all twisted and tangled.
39:55I'll make you sing for me, I'll make you scream.
39:59Everybody sing!
40:00Everybody sing!
40:01Everybody sing!
40:02Everybody sing!
40:03Everybody sing!
40:04Everybody sing!
40:05Everybody sing!
40:06Everybody sing!
40:07Everybody sing!
40:08Everybody sing!
40:09Everybody sing!
40:10Everybody sing!
40:11Everybody sing!
40:12Everybody sing!
40:13Everybody sing!
40:14Everybody sing!
40:15Here I can take up the whole of the sky
40:20I'm furling, becoming my full size
40:24Look at me burst through the ceiling
40:26Aren't you so glad you came?
40:29Breathless and begging and screaming my name
40:35Screaming my name
40:43Everybody jump, everybody sing, everybody move, everybody scream, everybody shake, put down your screen, everybody up, everybody scream
41:03Drop the medicine, the spells and the injections, the harvest, the needle, protect me from evil
41:11The magic and the misery, madness and the mystery
41:15Oh, what has it done to me, everybody scream
41:20Oh! Wow!
41:26Mariah to the Machine, everybody!
41:28And her band, and her choir!
41:31Come on over, Florence, dude!
41:33Come and join us!
41:36Here she comes!
41:37I'll take it, I'll take it, don't worry about it
41:41Give it to me!
41:43Thank you very much
41:44Hello, thank you so much for that
41:46It was gorgeous, come on up here
41:47Tessa, Jeremy, Bruce, James, Lawrence
41:53Oh, wow
41:54Thank you so much for that, Florence
41:56Now, you know people, don't you?
41:59Yes, I'm Tessa
42:00It's so nice to see
42:01Yeah, you're probably, your friend, Tessa knows everybody
42:03No
42:04And I know you know, Bruce, because weirdly, you were on the show together before
42:08This is where we hang out
42:09I don't know
42:10Yeah
42:10It's absolutely true
42:12Yes, so yeah, this is where me and Bruce meet up every four years
42:16Yeah
42:16So this is our annual meet-ups
42:18So I'm so glad you came
42:19I'm glad you came
42:21But here's the weird, last time you did not reveal that you have history with Mr. Springsteen's music
42:28I was too shy, but, and overwhelmed by bright lights
42:33And I don't even know if I said anything when I sat down
42:35Um, uh, but I basically, uh, was too shy to tell you that one of the first songs that I ever started performing was I'm Going Down
42:43So we used to
42:44Really?
42:44Yeah, I used to play it with my friend Kid Harpoon and we sang it as a duet
42:48Holy cow
42:49And we used to play it in all, like, the pubs and clubs of London
42:52And, because you know when you're starting out, you don't really have any songs
42:55Of course
42:56Like, we had, like, I had three of my own songs
42:59And I'm Going Down was one of the other covers I used to play along
43:02So, yeah, it's, I was too shy to tell you that last time
43:06But I'm so glad that we had our annual meet-up
43:08I love it
43:09You know, this time
43:11I love it
43:12And that's an unusual choice for a duet
43:14But, uh, it was very well
43:17It doesn't like it
43:17I'm flattered
43:18Take it back
43:19We'll say, well, this is another four years
43:21We'll discuss this
43:22We'll be back here
43:23Or you two will do it here
43:24Oh, that was a lovely idea
43:27Yes
43:27A collab, a collab that was born on the show
43:36I'm producing now
43:37Yeah
43:37I should say, that single, Everybody Scream, it's from the upcoming album of the same name
43:44Hear it be
43:45And it's out
43:46Yes
43:47Yeah, right of course
43:48There it all is
43:51It's, um
43:51And fittingly for Everybody Scream, it's out on Halloween
43:55Yeah
43:55Was that all planned?
43:57Yeah, it was all planned
43:58And I actually turned this album around faster than usual
44:02Because I just wanted to make this day
44:04I was like, no, we have
44:05It all rhymes
44:06We have to make this day
44:07Because it all rhymes
44:08Front of the Machine
44:09Everybody Scream, out on Halloween
44:10And
44:11Marketing genius
44:14Yeah
44:15Marketing genius
44:16And, uh, Front of the Machine on tour, uh, next year
44:20Yeah
44:21And, am I right?
44:22This is academic
44:23Because it's, it's so
44:24What is it?
44:25Do the whole thing sell out in an hour or something?
44:27It's sold out very fast
44:29Yeah
44:30Yeah
44:30And this is not just the UK
44:32It's Europe as well
44:33All gone
44:33UK and Europe
44:34It's all gone
44:35But you are going to
44:36Presumably
44:36Like, you know
44:37I'm not your manager
44:38But are they adding dates?
44:41No, that's it
44:42Okay
44:43It's gone
44:44It's on, but it's gone
44:46I'm just saying here
44:47It's 242,500 tickets
44:50All gone
44:51Wow
44:52Wow
44:52That is impressive
44:54And
44:55You are putting on a show
44:58It's not
44:59Like
44:59Is the idea that it's going to be
45:01Like, spooky?
45:03Yeah
45:04So, um
45:05We wanted
45:06To do something
45:07A little
45:07Different
45:08It's such a personal record
45:11That there needed to be
45:12A really solid world around it
45:14And we also wanted to do
45:14Things we'd never done before
45:16And
45:16I wanted moments of it
45:18To be like
45:19Really genuinely terrifying
45:20So, yeah
45:21You know
45:22It's good if you didn't get a ticket
45:24It's very funny
45:25People handing them back now
45:28Stop complaining
45:29Listen, good luck with the tour
45:31And thanks again for that amazing performance
45:34Florence and the Machine
45:34It's a hug
45:43It's a hug
45:43It's a hug
45:44It's a hug
45:45Right, that's really it before we go
45:48Just time for a visit to the big red chair
45:50Who have we got?
45:51Hello
45:51Hello
45:52Hi, what's your name? Jonathan. Hello, Jonathan. And where are you from? I'm from
45:57East Horsley in Surrey. Wow, very specific in the end
46:03What do you do there? I'm retired. Okay, what did you do before? I worked at the London Stock Exchange
46:10Okay, did you take early retirement? Yes
46:17We stopped caring about the story now
46:19Off you go, Jonathan. Okay, so I'm at a family barbecue at
46:26The in-laws and the children are running around in the garden and we have a new puppy
46:33When we're tidying up after eating the meal
46:37I'm sure that I see a
46:40Chicken drumstick fall off a plate to the floor
46:44But when I look at the floor, it's not there, but the puppy is
46:48Now I have a hard time persuading
46:51Anyone that this puppy which is this big has swallowed a drumstick that's this big
46:56But I persuade my in-laws to search the the the rubbish to count the drumsticks and lo and behold there is one missing
47:06so
47:08My wife says it will leave the dog had eaten a chicken bird. It has to go to the vet. So she takes him off to the vet and
47:22I stay behind with the children and long story short
47:25She runs off with the vet
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