The Graham Norton Show - Season 33 Episode 08- Hugh Jackman, Kate Hudson, Ben Stiller, Da'Vine Joy Randolph, sombr
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02:08Kate Hudson!
02:12Kade Hudson!
02:14Hello!
02:19And he
02:21is a Grammy Emmy Antony Award
02:23winning star who's lit
02:25up the screens in The Greatest Showman
02:27Les Miserables'le and last year's Deadpool and Wolverine.
02:31It's the one and only Hugh Jackman!
02:37Hello son!
02:38It's been great to see you!
02:45Hello all!
02:47Hello!
02:48I really want to just hug Divine for most of my life.
02:51That's just...
02:52It's just kind of a pile-off.
02:54It is.
02:54Yeah, whenever you want.
02:56Yeah, no, it is the sort of thing, if you wear that at a party by the end of the night,
02:59everyone's just clinging.
03:00Yep, that's the point.
03:01Gorgeous.
03:02So, welcome back to everybody.
03:04Yeah.
03:05And Hugh and Kate, obviously you know each other, you've worked together, we're about to talk
03:08about the movie.
03:09But Ben and Kate, you've known each other for a long time.
03:12Like...
03:13Yes.
03:1425?
03:1530?
03:16Yeah.
03:1730 years.
03:18Oh my goodness.
03:19Yeah.
03:20You guys were dating for how long?
03:23Oh, Graham.
03:29Let's draw a showbiz veil.
03:32By the way, my daughter and I bond over two things, Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
03:38Love it.
03:39And musical theater.
03:40And one of our favorite shows is Les Mis, and we both bond over how much we love you...
03:46Yes.
03:47...in Les Mis, and how incredible you are as Valjean.
03:49Yes.
03:50And that's one of the things we do together, we sing like the confrontation, you know...
03:53Well, I was just saying, how many of my daughter watch Severance?
03:56Right, right, right.
03:57Right.
03:58Really?
03:59Thanks.
04:00Wow.
04:01I love you.
04:02Because people may not know that you, of course, are the man behind Severance.
04:07Yeah.
04:08It...
04:09This year got a record-breaking 27 Emmy nominations.
04:12Wow.
04:13I mean, it's so good.
04:15It's so insanely good.
04:17I agree.
04:18Don't you direct every single episode?
04:20I don't.
04:21I don't.
04:22I directed about half the episodes last season, and yeah.
04:24And I know you're not going to direct any more.
04:26Is that right?
04:27You... do your research.
04:29I...
04:30No.
04:31Not next season, but I'm still producing a part of it, yes.
04:34Oh, okay.
04:35And the next season is being written, or...?
04:37Yes.
04:38Yes.
04:39So it's not shot yet?
04:40You're asking all the tough questions.
04:41Okay.
04:42Yes, we are in process.
04:43Are we in it?
04:44Is this it?
04:45We're being negotiated right now.
04:47And someone who took an award away since we last met her, Divine Joy Randolph, an Oscar
04:53winner!
04:54God damn it!
04:55No, I felt like you had a proud relative, because you were on the show talking about
05:02the holdovers, and I love that movie.
05:03Yeah.
05:04So when you won, it was just...
05:05And it is that kind of showbiz dream, was it?
05:08Did it feel how you thought it would feel?
05:11Oh, I...
05:12It was so out of body at that point, and they... everyone had said to me, like, don't write
05:18anything down.
05:19I was like...
05:20Well, I thought that's what everyone does.
05:22They were like, no, just speak from the heart.
05:24And so because of it, I blacked out.
05:26I don't remember anything.
05:27And then, were you very sensible, and kind of like, yes, I have my old grandma to go to
05:33bed now, or did you go wild?
05:36No.
05:37It had been good that whole time.
05:39Oh.
05:40Mm-hmm.
05:41So you partied all night.
05:42Oh, yeah.
05:43Fun.
05:44Still going.
05:45Another party.
05:46Another party.
05:47Next club.
05:48Do it.
05:49I'm wearing my hugging dress.
05:50Yeah.
05:51Let's go.
05:52Listen, let's crack on with our first movie tonight.
05:55Hugh Jackman and Kate Hudson are together in Song Song Blue.
05:59It'll be in cinemas from New Year's Day.
06:02Before we talk about it, here's a taste of the trailer.
06:07I'm not a songwriter.
06:08I'm not a sex symbol, but I am an entertainer.
06:11I don't want to be a hairdresser.
06:13I want to sing.
06:14I want to dance.
06:15I want to be able to sing.
06:16Look at me.
06:17I made it.
06:18Look at the night.
06:19You supposed to be Loretta Lynn?
06:20Oh, oh, Patsy Cline.
06:22My boobs were just a bit bigger.
06:24I could be Dolly.
06:25You're a blonde?
06:27Oh, boy, am I?
06:28I can begin to know it.
06:32You know who you'd be perfect for?
06:34Neil Diamond.
06:35We fill it up with only two.
06:38We should call ourselves lightning and thunder.
06:41That is not very professional of me, but I've been wanting to do it for like a whole.
06:46You're gonna do a Neil Diamond show?
06:48Mm-mm-mm-mm.
06:49A Neil Diamond experience.
06:51Lightness and thunder!
06:54Reaching out.
06:56Sold out shows.
06:57What's a Pearl Jam?
06:58You don't know who Pearl Jam is?
07:00I guess we're opening for protein.
07:01Ah!
07:05Here we go.
07:06Sweet Caroline.
07:09Ah, ah, ah.
07:10Guess I've never seen so good.
07:13So good, so good, so good, so good.
07:16It's good.
07:17So good.
07:18So good, so good.
07:19Mike and Claire Sardina.
07:20So good.
07:21So good.
07:22Mike and Claire Sardina are this real-life couple.
07:25Mm-hmm.
07:26So talk to us about them.
07:27Milwaukee, mid-90s.
07:28Mike was a.k.a. lightning.
07:29His stage name is lightning.
07:30His manager.
07:31And Claire was thunder.
07:32That's right.
07:33Claire's staying open.
07:34His manager was his dentist.
07:35That's right.
07:36Claire's staying open.
07:37His manager was his dentist, who put a lightning bolt on his front tooth.
07:40And they were lightning and thunder.
07:41And in the mid-90s, they had this Neil Diamond tribute band.
07:44And there they are.
07:45They played in pubs.
07:46They played in clubs.
07:47And then they just became the bomb.
07:48Huge.
07:49They were huge in Milwaukee.
07:50And they ended up opening up a Pearl Jam and...
07:52..since they were.
07:53Oh, yeah.
07:54Oh, yeah.
07:55Oh, yeah.
07:56Oh, yeah.
07:57Oh, yeah.
07:58Oh, yeah.
07:59Oh, yeah.
08:00Oh, yeah.
08:01Oh, yeah.
08:02Oh, yeah.
08:03Oh, yeah.
08:04And so that's sort of the showbiz side.
08:07But their story...
08:08Oh.
08:09Honestly, I want to be in every cinema...
08:10I'm talking too much.
08:11No, no.
08:12I'll talk...
08:13No, no.
08:14You...
08:15I'm...
08:16Interrupting.
08:17Whatever you think this story, you know, it's a showbiz story, it goes to places you
08:22can't imagine.
08:23And I promise you, when you watch it, part of you is going to say, all right, Hollywood,
08:27take it down a notch.
08:28Like, come on.
08:29It's already a good story.
08:30You didn't have to lay it off.
08:31Everything is true.
08:32And Kate, you ended...
08:34You met Claire, the real Claire, in the end, but you didn't meet her initially.
08:38No, no.
08:39No, initially...
08:40I mean, we had...
08:41We had such a great resource with the documentary, so I think Craig really wanted me to...
08:46This is the director.
08:47The director, Craig Brewer, writer-director, did an amazing job on this.
08:52And he kind of wanted me not to get too involved with Claire so that I wouldn't be torn away
08:59from my instincts of the story he wrote, you know.
09:02But once we started, she came on set, and it was amazing.
09:07And wild, actually, to have her there and, like, for us, you know, to have the same hair and...
09:13Stare at the older Claire, you know.
09:16And how difficult...
09:17Because you were doing such a specific thing, you.
09:19You know, you're playing a real person who's then impersonating...
09:23Right.
09:24...a real person.
09:25Right.
09:26Like, which end do you start from?
09:27Yeah, it was confusing.
09:28Yeah.
09:29But I obviously have to start with me, because I have a life where I perform as well.
09:34I kind of had to lose me to become Mike, and then Mike to become Neil.
09:38And it was awesome.
09:39And luckily, the first thing we did was get in the recording studio.
09:43So we did everything live, and we recorded everything.
09:45Nice.
09:46But that's really where we found our voices, I think.
09:49Yeah.
09:50Individually and together.
09:51And connection.
09:52Yeah.
09:53And it was like a nice sort of icebreaker, because the story is such an intense love story.
09:58And I remember saying to Hugh, like, this movie won't work if we don't work.
10:02And we have to find that, like, really...
10:06They were so in love, Mike and Claire.
10:08Hmm.
10:09And so starting with music for us was a great way to kind of break the ice.
10:13And the chemistry between the two of you is great.
10:15There's just a little clip, and it's a very sweet little clip that just shows that love and that chemistry.
10:20Hey, Claire.
10:21I can't thank Neil, because every thank you I got belongs to you, doll.
10:31You're my August night, and you're my September morn, and you're my heartlight, and you're my cracklin' rosy.
10:36You got me?
10:46Go see on stage.
10:47Okay.
10:48Oh.
10:49Oh, I can't wait.
10:50You know what's wrong.
10:51I might cry again.
10:52I might cry again.
10:53I haven't seen the movie.
10:54I'm already crying.
10:55My parents were a mess.
10:56It was, like, really, like, I think everybody who's, you know, because even when you know someone so well, like, we were a mess when we saw the movie the first time, and that's really rare.
11:15But what's nice is they're kind of gorgeous tears.
11:18It's not a depress...
11:19In no way is it depressing.
11:20No, it's uplifting.
11:21Look at you.
11:22You're welling up as well.
11:24Right.
11:25I'm seeing us kissing it.
11:27We had...
11:28There was a lot of kissing.
11:29So much kissing.
11:30My favourite moment was we were kissing one night.
11:33We had a kissing scene, ended in a kiss.
11:35I proposed, and it started to snow, and it was, like, midnight, and it was freezing.
11:41It was so beautiful.
11:42You know when it's really cold and your nose can't stop running?
11:44Yes.
11:45Not a good scene.
11:46No.
11:47The scene was, like, two minutes long, so my makeup artist would go, oh, Hugh, wow, okay.
11:51Clean me up.
11:52But by the time it came to the kiss, just, you know.
11:54Oh, it was...
11:55And so, it's not...
11:56It ruined everything.
11:57It's really good for your confidence when you see this look on your co-star's face.
12:04And that's on her push-up.
12:06I love it for going in.
12:08Does your nose run when you cry?
12:10A little bit, yes.
12:11Yes.
12:12And in the cold?
12:13Yes.
12:14Oh, guys, it was...
12:15Listen, I'm a professional.
12:17Am I right?
12:18I read you in an interview, and you're talking about your connection with Claire, that idea
12:23that you don't choose to perform, like, these guys had to perform.
12:27You have to do it, yeah.
12:28There's...
12:29I think Hugh and I both relate to that very much so, where it's, like, it's just in you.
12:33And when you're born with music in you, it has to come out.
12:36You don't know what else to do, you know.
12:39And if you're not doing that, there's something really missing in your life.
12:43And that is Claire and Mike.
12:45And it was them, their whole life, their whole, you know, relationship.
12:50I think they fell in love because they saw that in each other, too, you know.
12:54Yeah.
12:55But you guys, you're...
12:57The people are born with music in them, and they can't do it.
13:01Like me.
13:02Oh.
13:03There's so many people.
13:04Like, no, but you guys are both, like, so unique.
13:06We were talking backstage about how, like, you know, he can go on Broadway for, like, a year and do Music Man.
13:11Like, there's so few people who can do both, you know, who can act and sing and dance and do all that.
13:16And, like, uniquely suited to this kind of movie.
13:19But, Ben, drumming was your first love.
13:21Drumming was my first love, but I...
13:23Oh, wow.
13:24Yes.
13:25Yeah, but no, it was...
13:26We've got a picture of you drumming.
13:27Yeah.
13:28How old are you here?
13:29This is...
13:30Look at...
13:31Oh!
13:32That's my bar mitzvah.
13:33That's your bar mitzvah?
13:34You're like Jack White.
13:35Yeah.
13:36But I did not have the music in me enough to make it come out and sound good.
13:40But you did, because last time you were here, you told us about your band.
13:43Yes.
13:44Yeah, yeah.
13:45Capital...
13:46We're currently in a band?
13:47I have...
13:48No, in high school I had a band called Capital Punishment.
13:51Very nice.
13:52Yes.
13:53And we recorded one album.
13:54And you did an album.
13:55Yeah.
13:56Was it...
13:57Roadkill.
13:58It was called Roadkill.
13:59Ooh!
14:00But now, here's the weird thing.
14:01Which one of you?
14:02I'm the guy down...
14:03The Che Guevara guy at the bottom.
14:04They're at the bottom right.
14:06Super dark.
14:07Yeah, yeah.
14:08What was the vibe?
14:09Sort of like a post-punk kind of alt-rock, you know, Brian Eno, David Bowie inspired.
14:16Wow!
14:17What year was this?
14:18This was 19...
14:19It's already got a 19 in front of me.
14:2280...
14:23No, no, no, no.
14:24Yeah, 82?
14:25Wow.
14:26I have to hear this out.
14:27Well, now, here's the thing.
14:28Here's the thing, Kate.
14:29You can.
14:30Because this...
14:31No, we're not going to play it, but...
14:34Now I feel bad.
14:36Now I feel bad.
14:37Like, we should be playing it.
14:38No, please.
14:39But...
14:40So, you were talking about this in interviews, or it came up, and then what happened?
14:44Um...
14:45Well, I was...
14:46I mean, somebody released our album.
14:47You're talking about that?
14:48Yeah.
14:49Somebody released our album.
14:50Like, years later, they found it, and an independent label released Roadkill.
14:53What?
14:54Yeah, and then we got together and started playing together again.
14:56Roadkill.
14:57And I just played with the guys, like...
14:59Here you all are.
15:00Here's Capital Punishment.
15:01Here's Capital Punishment now.
15:03Awesome.
15:04What?
15:05Yeah, that's a few years ago.
15:06We did a few gigs, and we just rehearsed the other day, actually, for a moment.
15:09Oh, God.
15:10But the problem is, Peter, on the left, is a judge.
15:13He's, like, a chief...
15:15He's a judge in Arizona.
15:17And then Peter, on the other guy, the redhead Peter, he's a professor of Eastern European
15:22literature.
15:23He lives in Prague.
15:24Okay.
15:25And then Chris, my friend, who's screaming back, he lives in Brooklyn, and he's close
15:28by.
15:29Okay.
15:30So we're never, like, in the same place together.
15:31Yeah.
15:32And then, in terms of music, Divine Joy Roundup, you are a trained opera singer.
15:35Yeah.
15:36You're a trained opera singer.
15:38You are.
15:39I am.
15:40I know.
15:41I get nervous about that.
15:42I don't know why.
15:43But it's true.
15:44It is true.
15:45That's not a lie.
15:46Yeah.
15:47Yeah.
15:48Well, you started in a choir, then opera?
15:49Yeah.
15:50And then there was this, like, new girl that came to our school and was like, I went to
15:55Interlochen.
15:56And I was like, I went home and I was like, yo, mom, I'm going to Interlochen.
15:59I don't know what it is, but I don't know how she's talking.
16:02She's a little too cocky for me.
16:04And so, literally, I didn't know what Interlochen was, what it was about.
16:07Got to the camp.
16:08It was, like, this big international performing arts school that's, like, in the woods.
16:12No, no, no.
16:13It's in Traverse City, which is, like, two hours outside of Detroit.
16:16But it's an international performing arts school.
16:18I get there and they were like, so you're in the opera program.
16:21And I was like, what?
16:23But I absolutely fell in love with it.
16:26And I was hooked.
16:27And I was saying to you backstage, when are we going to hear you sing in a movie?
16:31I know.
16:32And I'm so jealous now, because hearing about theirs, and I got a chance to work with Craig
16:36Brewer on Dolomite, so I know how he's so good with music.
16:39I need to make it happen.
16:40It's going to happen.
16:41I do.
16:42I need to make it happen.
16:43Yeah, keep talking about it, and it'll happen.
16:44I know.
16:45Like him.
16:46He brought up an interview, and the whole band got back together.
16:47He could get Craig Brewer to direct the Capital Punishment movie.
16:50Yes!
16:51I can play it myself.
16:54Talking of music, Song Song Blue, obviously, it's not about Neil Diamond, but his music is
17:00like a character.
17:01I mean, it's so gorgeous.
17:02There's 13 of his songs in it.
17:03Wow.
17:04And Neil knew the story of Mike and Claire really well.
17:07And so he just gave his rights to his music for the movie.
17:10Oh, beautiful.
17:11And you both spent time with him, right?
17:12Yeah.
17:13You did first.
17:14Yeah.
17:15I grew up in Colorado, and he lives like 10 minutes from where I grew up, and had never
17:23met him.
17:24And he had seen the movie, and I was like, can I go see him?
17:28And they invited me over, and we had Lemonade on the Porch.
17:30Oh!
17:31There you are!
17:32There you are having Lemonade on the Porch.
17:33It was so emotional, because he's retired.
17:36He's not singing anymore.
17:37He's really, like, you know, living a very quiet life.
17:40Yeah.
17:41And he loves his movie so much, and he was so grateful, which I was not expecting, and emotional
17:47about the movie.
17:48And then we just had just, like, this lovely porch moment.
17:51Yeah.
17:52What's that song?
17:53I am myself.
17:54Yeah.
17:55So good.
17:56It's in there.
17:57There's no one there, and no one at night, even the chair.
18:02Oh, very good.
18:03I'm going to do a duet thing.
18:05Yeah.
18:10So Kate went round and had Lemonade on the Porch.
18:12Yeah.
18:13You, Jackman, you sort of imposed yourself on the Diamond family.
18:16Yeah.
18:17Well, he rang me.
18:18Oh, did he?
18:19And he rang me after seeing the movie with his wife, Katie, and he was crying.
18:23And he was, he was so moved by it.
18:25He loved it.
18:26And he just loved the story of Mike and Claire.
18:29And so I took the opportunity.
18:30I said, ah, guys, I'd love to come around and have a cuppa or something.
18:34And they were like, and Neil's like, okay, yeah, all right.
18:39And then I didn't hear from Neil anymore.
18:42And Katie obviously takes her phone and goes, you know, we're in Colorado.
18:45And I went, okay, yeah, no, I'd still like to come for a cuppa.
18:48And she was like, you, so I guess you want to stay the night?
18:51And I'm like, that'd be great.
18:54And she's like, okay.
18:55So we went there and their son, Jesse, was there and Neil came out and he came up to me
19:00and he grabbed me and he goes, you did good, kid.
19:02Oh.
19:03And he was emotional about it.
19:05And so I stayed the night and at dinnertime, Neil Diamond.
19:10Neil Diamond goes, you want to do some karaoke?
19:13I'm like, hell yeah.
19:16We did karaoke.
19:18Oh.
19:19And he's, yes.
19:20Oh.
19:21And the first song that Neil sang, yeah, at one point he put his arm around,
19:24he kissed me on the forehead and he sang, I Dreamed a Dream.
19:27No.
19:28And I said, why are you singing I Dreamed a Dream?
19:29And he goes, that's such a pretty tune.
19:31A pretty tune.
19:32And he sang it so beautifully.
19:34And then we sang, can't help falling in love with you.
19:37And then we sang, sweet Caroline.
19:39Of course she did.
19:40Yeah.
19:41And a funny fact about the Diamond household.
19:43It's the best.
19:44This is a true story.
19:45Anyone who says so good in the Diamond household, two other people have to say so good, so good.
19:50So good, so good.
19:51It took me a second to work it out.
19:52It happened to me too.
19:53Like I'm sitting there and I go, oh God, it was so good.
19:55And then you hear someone go, so good, so good.
19:57And you're like, and then finally I was like, do you guys say that?
20:00And she's like, oh yeah, every time someone says so good.
20:02Yeah.
20:03It's so good.
20:04So good.
20:05Yeah.
20:06Play that game at home.
20:07You're going to realise how often you say it.
20:10Real quick.
20:12It's just a gorgeous film.
20:13A reminder that Hugh and Kate will be making beautiful music together in Songzong Blue from New Year's Day.
20:20And take it from me.
20:21It's so good.
20:22Very good.
20:23Very good.
20:24Good.
20:25Very good.
20:27Everyone can go to the Diamond household.
20:28Yes.
20:29No one will win.
20:30But, right now, you can see Ben Stiller in a very personal documentary film.
20:35Stiller and Mira, Nothing is Lost.
20:38It's out now on Apple TV+.
20:40So Ben, this is a tribute to your parents and Mira and Jerry Stiller.
20:45and Jerry Stiller.
20:46And very famous in America.
20:47I think probably less...
20:48Yeah.
20:49Well, certainly the double act, less well-known here.
20:51Yes, yeah.
20:52I think my dad became most well-known for doing Seinfeld and being on Seinfeld and King of Queens.
20:56But, you know, they had a whole career before that.
20:58My parents were a comedy team.
21:00They were on the Ed Sullivan Show about 36 times in those six days.
21:03Wow.
21:04Yeah.
21:05And, you know, their whole act was sort of based on their relationship.
21:09And we grew up around that and them, you know, kind of creating together.
21:13And so the documentary is about, yeah, about growing up in a show business family and kind of...
21:19And then it sort of became about our whole family.
21:22Because originally I wanted to make something when my dad passed away just about my parents and their career and their relationship.
21:29But I didn't really know what it would be.
21:31And that was in 2020 I started working on it.
21:33And COVID was happening.
21:35And, you know, it was just kind of a time where, you know, we couldn't do a memorial for my dad or anything like that.
21:43And I had all this footage that my dad had saved because he'd saved Super 8 footage and home movies and video cassettes and scripts.
21:52And we were going through the apartment.
21:53So the movies, my sister and I going through the apartment.
21:55That bit is so relatable.
21:57Anyone who's lost a parent.
21:58Yeah.
21:59When you and Amy are going to the apartment to clear it out.
22:02And when you say clear it out, there's stuff.
22:04I mean...
22:05Yeah.
22:06He kept everything.
22:07He saved everything.
22:08Yeah.
22:09He saved like an old scuba mask from when I was like eight years old.
22:11Or like our YMCA, you know, form to like, you know, to apply for the family day.
22:17Things like that.
22:18Just...
22:19And so...
22:20But you know how it just gets very...
22:21You know, you get deep into that stuff when you start going into it.
22:23And you kind of go into another time.
22:24It takes forever to get rid of it.
22:25Yeah.
22:26And so making the movie was a strange process because I'd be delving into all this stuff.
22:29And then I was trying to figure out what is the movie really about.
22:32We've got a clip.
22:33This is your parents at work.
22:35And then it kind of cuts to you and your sister Amy talking about...
22:40Yeah.
22:41We're going through the apartment, going through all the stuff.
22:42Some of the blurred lines.
22:43Yes.
22:44Yeah.
22:45We have a sketch which we call hate.
22:46The heat of your hot hate.
22:47You know, I say to Anne, I hate you.
22:49She says, you hate me.
22:50I hate you.
22:51And one day Amy, who's six, came into the room and she heard us saying this to each other.
22:55And we looked at her for a moment and we didn't know what to say.
22:58So we said, Amy, mommy, daddy, rehearse.
23:01And Amy looked at us and she started to smile.
23:04Well, about two weeks later, we were fighting.
23:07And Amy walked in and she said...
23:10Mommy, daddy, rehearse?
23:11No.
23:12Mommy, daddy, fight.
23:13Get out of here.
23:14It gets to be a little complicated sometimes.
23:15Yes, sir.
23:16I hated you before I met you.
23:17I hated you before you were born.
23:18To me, that's like one of the things that I think about is just how that became sort
23:23of like, yeah, that's the laugh.
23:24That's the funny joke.
23:25But what is the reality of that story though?
23:27We don't know, Ben.
23:28That's why we're so messed up.
23:29That's why we're doing this documentary?
23:30That's why we're going to figure it out.
23:31And in the documentary, I mean, it does become kind of meta where, you know, what are some
23:47of the pitfalls of parenting that you see yourself fall into while you're making this?
23:54I think it's that thing when you're, you know, when you're younger, I, you know, having kids
23:59who want to, who are actors, and my son's in college, my daughter's a working actor, you
24:04know, I see myself in them in terms of how I was with my parents.
24:09Because when I was young, I didn't want my parents' help.
24:12I didn't, I kind of, you know, wanted to do my own thing.
24:14I wasn't even, I didn't even care what they were doing.
24:17And, but also I was, I had like issues with them, you know, because they were working
24:20all the time and they were busy and, you know, the stuff that comes up as you get older too,
24:24and you look back and, but then when you have kids, it just makes you look at your parents
24:28in such a different way.
24:29And of course I, so I decided to interview my kids for the, for the movie.
24:33And of course they have all the same issues that I had, but probably even worse.
24:38And I realized, you know, that that's the thing, like you try to not make those mistakes,
24:42but then you can't help it.
24:43It's just, you know, it's part of just, you know, being a parent.
24:46This is all hitting very close to home.
24:47Yeah.
24:48I was going to say, when you grew up with very famous, you know, Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell,
24:51did they kind of try to protect you from the show business bit or were you kind of in it?
24:55You know, it's funny when you're in it, you don't see it like show biz.
24:58You see it like a really creative, artistic story point.
25:02And also it's your life.
25:03You don't know any difference.
25:04Yeah.
25:05And also like, they're not like, you know, I mean, it was just their job.
25:09And, you know, it's so interesting to hear this because it is, it's, it's, it's a story.
25:15It's like, you know, my, my son, same as Ella, they're both actors and it is a DNA thing.
25:21There's something in it.
25:22There's something in the artist kind of, you know, DNA that is an interesting thing to uncover.
25:30Like, what is it?
25:31Is it, is it nurture or is it nature?
25:33And, and Devon, it's interesting, you didn't have show business parents, but your parents,
25:37they went to such lengths to make sure you succeeded.
25:40No one that we have traced in our genealogical past has artistic gifts.
25:47I genuinely do not know where this came from.
25:52No, but it was cool because my parents were just kind of like, my parents taught me at a young age, like, these are your gifts.
26:00That was something that I knew that was very different from other kids that like, it would almost be like a whisper.
26:05Like, well, you know what I mean?
26:06Like, let's say, I don't know, we're out and about shopping or whatever.
26:09And maybe I would just like goof off and be humming.
26:12And my mom would be like, that's, that's real.
26:15That's real.
26:16That's a real gift that you have.
26:19And I was like, oh, okay.
26:20So I was made aware of it at a young age.
26:23And so when I switched gears and got into acting, and when I had got into Yale, my father was very happy.
26:30Because of the Ivy League portion of the equation.
26:33And got all the lanyards and all the things.
26:36And I was like, you know, it's for acting though, right?
26:38He's like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
26:40He went to Yale.
26:41And I never forget, at my graduation, Scorsese spoke, was like the keynote speaker.
26:47And my dad was like, talk to him, you need to get a job.
26:50And I was like, please, stop that.
26:53But they've been so supportive.
26:56And I can't even imagine what that would be like.
27:00And as I was like, growing into my artistry, I kind of always wanted that.
27:04Although I was so grateful to what my parents did.
27:06But because I was kind of like, on my own.
27:08And figuring this out.
27:11But I just think that is so unique.
27:14It's amazing they supported you like that.
27:16Yeah.
27:17Talking of supportive fathers, Hugh Jackman, your dad did something so sweet.
27:21Do you know what I'm talking about?
27:22I do know what you're talking about.
27:23Yeah, yeah.
27:24But my dad was always supportive.
27:25We went, growing up, always to the theatre, every show.
27:29My standing, my gift every year for my birthday was a subscription to the Sydney Theatre Company
27:34so that I could go.
27:35He bought the cheapest one possible.
27:36So I had to go Wednesday matinee and skip class just so I could do it.
27:41But dad made sure I saw everything.
27:43And I remember once in my career, dad saw everything I did.
27:46It was always just so effusive when he came back.
27:49Even the stuff that he had no interest in.
27:51And I could tell he didn't like it.
27:53But he'd be like, wonderful work, Hugh.
27:55Wonderful.
27:56And one time I was offered to do Carousel at Carnegie Hall.
28:00And I just, I told dad, I'm doing this thing.
28:02He goes, I'm coming.
28:04Because for my dad, Carousel, that's his jam.
28:07Yeah.
28:08So my dad never missed a day of work in his life.
28:09He worked at Pricewaterhouse his entire working life.
28:12And he took three days off to come to New York to see me in Carousel.
28:17Now, when I say three days, that's a 24-hour flight from Sydney to New York.
28:21Wow.
28:22He was in New York for less than 24 hours and then a 24-hour flight back straight to the office.
28:26Wow.
28:27And so he was on his way over.
28:29And my dad, itineraries, accountant.
28:32Classic accountant.
28:33What's the dress code?
28:34What time is it?
28:35And I said, it's black tie, dad.
28:37It's Carnegie Hall.
28:38From the day of, I found out it wasn't black tie.
28:41It was business casual.
28:43And I pictured my dad just arriving with like whatever he's wearing on the plane with the black tie.
28:49So I rang him.
28:50He was, he was, he just got to the hotel.
28:52I'm rehearsing.
28:53We're on in like eight hours.
28:55He said, Dan, I'm so sorry.
28:56It's not.
28:57He goes, don't worry.
28:58I'll get it sorted.
28:59Everything's okay.
29:00And I said, fine.
29:01He said, but do me a favor, Hugh.
29:02I would love to come and pick you up at your hotel room and walk you to the stage door before
29:07the performance.
29:08Stop.
29:09And I said, sure.
29:10And my dad never asked for stuff like that.
29:12And so I said, sure.
29:13I said, well, meet me at six.
29:14The show's at eight.
29:15I'm going to walk over, get there about 6.15.
29:17And so six o'clock on the dot, there's a knock on the door.
29:20Open it up.
29:21And there's my father standing in full black tie.
29:24I'm like, no, no, no, no, dad.
29:26I'm so serious.
29:28Only the choir are wearing black tie.
29:30No one else.
29:31And he looked me straight in the eye and he said, Hugh, my son is singing at Carnegie Hall.
29:36It is black tie for me.
29:37Oh, that's beautiful.
29:40And.
29:41No?
29:42Yeah.
29:43Not a dry eye.
29:44Not a dry eye.
29:46Not a dry eye.
29:47Oh, my God.
29:48Someone's got to cry tonight.
29:49Someone's got to cry.
29:50Here's the thing.
29:51I couldn't believe in the documentary bit.
29:53So your parents are performers, but they were not shy about kind of bringing you and
30:00your sister in front of the cameras.
30:01Right.
30:02Well, yeah, when we were little, I mean, they would go on the Mike Douglas show, which was
30:05like a daily show and they would bring us out, you know, for like a funny little bit
30:10or something like that.
30:11We thought it was so much fun because we got to be on TV.
30:14But it wasn't.
30:15So some of the times you just came on as cute, small people.
30:18Look, our adorable children.
30:19Right.
30:20But then there's a bit where they make you, not why they made you, but you perform.
30:23Well, they were co-hosting the show.
30:25So they do five shows and they'd be sitting on the couch with him.
30:28And so I think one day they were like trying to think of things to do that would be fun.
30:32And they go, oh, well, our kids take violin lessons.
30:35Why don't we have them come out and play?
30:37Listen, we have the clip.
30:38No.
30:39This is the clip.
30:40This is the clip from the documentary.
30:44This is the clip from the documentary.
30:45Check out the level of talent.
30:47So here we go.
30:48So this is Ben and his sister Amy on the show.
30:51Oh, my gosh.
30:52And now, like.
30:54Oh, my God.
30:55Well, let's listen to you a little bit.
30:57Look at your belt.
30:58Here we go.
30:59Now, were you normally better than this?
31:03No, no.
31:04This is as good as it got.
31:06I love your mother.
31:07Your mother is kind of embarrassed, I think.
31:09Yes.
31:13Your dad.
31:14Your dad is just laughing at you.
31:18No, he thinks we're doing great.
31:19Oh, okay.
31:21He truly thought we were amazing.
31:23I love that angle.
31:24That is so funny.
31:25No, I think, I mean, my mother there is realising, oh, there's going to be years of therapy after.
31:34Beautiful.
31:35You can see Ben's tribute to his parents, Stiller and Mirror.
31:38Nothing is Lost on Apple TV right now.
31:41Yeah.
31:43That's amazing.
31:44Meanwhile, Divine Joy Randolph brings us Eternity.
31:48It's in cinemas from the 5th of December.
31:51And so this is, there aren't many of them, but there are a couple.
31:55It's an afterlife rom-com.
31:57Mm-hmm.
31:58Okay.
31:59And so who do you play?
32:01What's going on?
32:02Tell us what you can.
32:03So I play a AC, which is an afterlife coordinator.
32:06So it's like a social worker of purgatory, basically.
32:10And the whole concept is like, when people leave Earth, they come to this place, it's called the Junction.
32:17And we basically, my role is that, as an AC, is that I help you decide where you would like to spend eternity.
32:27And there's all these different worlds of options.
32:30Like, Beach World and, like, Germany in the 30s, before the Nazis.
32:36Like, no Nazis.
32:37You know what I mean?
32:38That's a real thing.
32:39I go for Beach World.
32:41Yeah.
32:42Yeah.
32:43And so, in our movie, basically, Elizabeth Olsen and Miles Teller play an old couple.
32:54He dies by choking on a pretzel.
32:56Mm-hmm.
32:57That's a sad, sad, sad way to go.
32:59And he dies first.
33:03Then she dies.
33:05And he's waiting for her.
33:07And then when she dies, she's asked the same question.
33:11And then Callum Turner appears and is like, I am your long-lost first love who went to war, died in the war.
33:21And he's waited 67 years for her.
33:23Ooh.
33:24And so, he comes and is like, babe, it's me.
33:26And so, she has a real dilemma.
33:29So, her choice, well, her thing then is whom she is going to spend eternity with.
33:35And then shenanigans ensue.
33:36Both.
33:37As hot.
33:38Duh.
33:39Both hot.
33:40Both.
33:41Both.
33:42But yeah, it's really cute.
33:43And it's all this back and forth.
33:45And she's trying to figure it out.
33:47And so, my character helps Miles' character try to win the girl.
33:52Well, that's what we've got.
33:53We've got a clip of you as Anna with Miles Teller character, Larry, discussing his options.
33:58Mm-hmm.
33:59He looks like Montgomery Cliff.
34:00Woo!
34:01Oh, my gosh.
34:02I was saying this just the other day.
34:04Montgomery Cliff.
34:05He is so handsome.
34:07Luke is so handsome.
34:08You're not helping.
34:09I'm sorry, but it is what it is.
34:11Luke is hot.
34:12His eyes are blue as in the ocean.
34:14He has a better narrative.
34:16No, he doesn't.
34:17I have a better narrative.
34:18I was married to her for 65 years and I gave her children.
34:21Exactly.
34:22We go with that.
34:23That's strong.
34:24There's nothing more powerful than emotional blackmail.
34:26Right?
34:27Good on you.
34:28I don't know if you know this.
34:29I heard Elizabeth Olsen talking about this movie and weirdly, she said she...do you know this?
34:40I heard this too.
34:41I don't know Elizabeth Olsen, but I heard her on a talk show talking about the movie saying
34:45that she modeled her character, this older lady, on my mother.
34:49I believe it.
34:50Yeah.
34:51That sounds amazing.
34:52She watched tapes of your parents working together.
34:54That blew my mind.
34:55That was, yeah, the other night.
34:56I just heard her saying that.
34:57I believe it.
34:58I love your father's physical comedy so much and so when I get a chance to be physical,
35:03just the way that he was so free in his body is something like, normally directors have
35:08to be like, tone it down, tone it down, because I would literally throw myself across the room
35:12if I could do it.
35:13I just loved how much he just was so in his body and all his faculties.
35:18Yeah, yeah, yeah.
35:19A lot of film actors, you know, physicality in movies is not really talked about that much,
35:25you know, because it's all like close up, you know, but that's such...
35:27No, I love it.
35:28But also there's a tone to the comedy in it, that kind of tug of love.
35:31Yup.
35:32That does kind of, it feeds into that, that thing.
35:34I love that.
35:35I can't wait to see it.
35:36Yeah.
35:37It's called Eternity and it's out on the 5th of December, but we should say people can
35:41still enjoy you on the small screen.
35:44Murders, only murders in the building.
35:46Oh, yes.
35:47Only murders in the building.
35:50Look at those two nut jobs.
35:52Aww.
35:53We've just finished season five here.
35:56Season six is happening.
35:57It is.
35:58Now, I hear a rumor.
35:59It's not a rumor anymore, but it might be for you guys.
36:01Go ahead, say it.
36:02It's going to be filmed here.
36:03It is going to be filmed here.
36:04Oh, wow.
36:05How is that happening?
36:06When I tell you I literally don't know.
36:08Okay.
36:09I don't know how we, but the only thing I think of is like, we were in New York, then
36:12we had a season in LA.
36:14I was like, now we're going to London.
36:15So I genuinely, I'm not even like, I'm not going to tell you.
36:20I don't know.
36:21Okay.
36:22How we are going to London, but I'm very excited.
36:24But the New York cop is coming to London.
36:26I sure hope so.
36:28Like, you know, you pitched your thing in the interview.
36:30Where's the camera?
36:31John Hoffman.
36:32I would love to be in this next season of Only Murders in the Building.
36:36Because wouldn't it be so cool if she like had scenes with like the guards, right?
36:45And she's trying to like make them break and stuff.
36:47Yes.
36:48Like, right?
36:49I can see it.
36:50Or like she wants to go in training to be one of those because you know, she's so tough.
36:52Yeah.
36:53You join the Met.
36:54It'll be good.
36:55Yeah.
36:56I love it.
36:57And it's been a while.
36:58The Fockers are back.
37:00Yes.
37:01They're coming back.
37:02Yes.
37:03Okay.
37:04It's called Focker-in-law?
37:05Focker-in-law.
37:06Rolls off the tongue.
37:10I love it.
37:11And is everyone back?
37:13Owen Wilson's back.
37:14Robert De Niro's back.
37:15And Terry Polo's back.
37:18And Blythe Thanner's back.
37:20And the prospective Focker-in-law is Ariana Grande.
37:25Oh, wow.
37:27And when will Focker-in-law be in the world?
37:29We have this holiday in the States called Thanksgiving.
37:32Do you know?
37:33We've heard of it.
37:34So it's around now.
37:35So a year from now, it's going to be out.
37:37Oh.
37:38Yeah.
37:39We just finished shooting.
37:40We literally just finished shooting it.
37:41Okay.
37:42Yeah.
37:43So next Thanksgiving.
37:44Yes.
37:45But we had a great time.
37:46She's incredible.
37:47Ariana's like, what an amazing girl.
37:48You'd worked with her before though, hadn't you?
37:49She was in Zoolander 2.
37:51We had an orgy scene.
37:52Oh.
37:53And there was a hippo and Ariana and my spouse and Owen and a few other random people.
38:02And that was when we worked together back in the day.
38:04Beautiful.
38:05And Hugh, last year, such enormous success with your movie Deadpool and Wolverine.
38:10I think it was the second biggest movie of the year.
38:11No, for sure.
38:12Yeah.
38:13Yeah.
38:14Come on, Vivi.
38:15Come on, Vivi.
38:16No.
38:17But like, so every time you're on, you've got to go, well, I won't be doing that again.
38:22But then you keep making another one and it's a big, big hit.
38:25Yeah.
38:26So are you going to have to do it again?
38:27Maybe.
38:28Ooh.
38:29Maybe.
38:30Maybe.
38:31I'm not saying, I am never saying never ever again.
38:34Yeah, yeah, yeah.
38:35Because I didn't mean it when I said never until the day when I changed my mind.
38:39But I really did for quite a few years.
38:41I meant it.
38:42Do you think you've got to the point now where they could like AI the body or something?
38:45A hundred percent.
38:46Yeah.
38:47I think I've done ten films.
38:48I know.
38:49Yeah.
38:50So I think they've got enough in there.
38:51Oh, yes.
38:52Good point.
38:53In fact, I've done your show five or six times.
38:54I could be out there in the dressing room.
38:55I don't know why you're here.
38:56I don't think.
38:57The show is funny.
38:58I'm going to take the fruit bowl.
38:59I'm out.
39:00Yeah.
39:01Yeah.
39:02Right.
39:03It is time for music.
39:04This Grammy-nominated artist shot to fame with his first single, Caroline, in 2023.
39:09Here performing 12 to 12 from his current album, I Barely Know Her, it is Somber.
39:15It's the UK television debut.
39:16I don't want anyone else.
39:17From the hours of 12 to 12, I am not the least compared by anyone but yourself.
39:30Woo!
39:31Kickin' me and make me melt.
39:32I know you wanna see me in my life.
39:33I'm dealing with the cars I've dealt with, yeah.
39:34While you're dancing with somebody else.
39:35I don't want anyone else.
39:36I don't want anyone else.
39:37From the hours of 12 to 12, I am not the least compared by anyone but yourself.
39:40Kickin' me and make me melt.
39:41I know you wanna see me in my life.
39:42I'm dealing with the cars I've dealt with, yeah.
39:43While you're dancing with somebody else.
39:47Was it always in your plan to live a bad idea?
39:49Because to me there's no one else that could make sense to you.
39:54The last and final parts of the world.
39:57In the middle, I was like, I'm not the only one.
40:00I know you wanna see me in my life.
40:01I'm dealing with the cars I've dealt with, yeah.
40:03While you're dancing with somebody else.
40:04Was it always in your plan to live a bad idea?
40:05Because to me there's no one else that could make sense to you.
40:09The last and final parts of the world.
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47:28Three or four years ago, I had a rather embarrassing operation on my bum, my backside, so...
47:34We got bum, yep.
47:35Yeah, so, anyway, I was in hospital and was getting surgery and it hadn't been really done on someone my age,
47:43so my surgeon was rather apprehensive, but anyway, after she did it to me she basically said
47:49that we need to take before photos and after photos for the British Medical Journal, so...
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49:55And the wait's almost over.
49:56Watch The Night Manager on iPlayer
49:58ahead of a brand new series coming soon.
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