The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City - Season 6 Episode 11- Ladies Who Lunch- The Sequel
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00:00Previously on The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.
00:04My mom's moved in with me.
00:05Gwen and Gwen's boyfriend is here.
00:08I'm like running like a youth hostel.
00:09And an elderly hostel at this point.
00:12Like everyone.
00:13My mom just had a big surgery in December.
00:15There's only a certain percentage of recovery here.
00:18Make peace with that relationship.
00:20What I witnessed on the plane, Meredith started going for Brittany.
00:23And Lisa was in her ear just pouring fuel on the fire.
00:27This thing spun into something it's not.
00:29I vented to a friend.
00:31It's not spun into something, was it, Meredith?
00:33I was there.
00:35It might take all of us saying that's not what happened.
00:40Hello?
00:41Hi.
00:41Oh, God.
00:57You ready for lunch?
00:58I'm starving.
00:58Me, too.
01:01Oh, it's a lot of getting here.
01:03Bye, fly.
01:06Mary's church service was beautiful.
01:09Whenever you need, I'm running with me.
01:13Woo!
01:15So nice.
01:16So beautiful.
01:17When we first got to the church, I felt like everyone's energy was off.
01:22Well, it was like that when we walked up.
01:24Yeah, it's weird.
01:24And they were like, why are you here, basically?
01:28They come in.
01:29They're all smiles.
01:30Nothing's happened.
01:31Nothing's gone wrong.
01:32Them showing up so fake like nothing happened, that makes me even more uncomfortable.
01:37I know.
01:37What do you think is going to happen at lunch now?
01:39I think that they're going to spin it and make it someone else's fault.
01:42It's going to be all of our faults.
01:47Hi, guys.
01:48Hey.
01:52Mary.
01:53Welcome, darling.
01:55Congratulations.
01:56This is so elegant.
01:58Your outfit is so beautiful.
02:00Oh, my gosh.
02:01After the plane ride, everyone is not forgiving.
02:04Everyone is not healed.
02:06So, Lord, help us all.
02:08Everyone in your church is so welcoming.
02:10Like, I feel like that's what our church is built on, is love.
02:13Hi.
02:14Broadway.
02:15Hi.
02:15Hi.
02:16Hi.
02:16Oh, Mary.
02:18I ran right to you.
02:20Sorry.
02:21It's Dom Perignon.
02:22Of course it is.
02:23Of course it is.
02:24Cheers.
02:25Cheers.
02:25Wasn't that a beautiful service?
02:27It was unbelievable.
02:28Thank you, Mary.
02:29Hello, gentlemen.
02:30Hello, hello.
02:31Good to see you.
02:31Hi, guys.
02:32Hello.
02:33You were in your element.
02:34Mm-hmm.
02:35Hi.
02:37Welcome.
02:38Hi.
02:39It's like surreal.
02:39First lady of Faith Pentecostal.
02:42It was so beautiful and wonderful.
02:43Thank you for coming.
02:45I love the betta fish.
02:46This one might not be okay.
02:47Oh, he's like, no, he's moving.
02:49He's a snooze fast.
02:50So give that one to Mary.
02:53Well, hello.
02:54Hey, guys.
02:55You guys look so good.
02:56Everybody looks fabulous.
02:58Hello.
02:59Here we go.
03:00Oh, your guests are here.
03:02Hello, hello.
03:02How are you, Mary?
03:03That was amazing.
03:06Her guests are here.
03:07What is wrong with you?
03:08I felt your whole heart.
03:09I loved it.
03:10Aw.
03:11So sweet.
03:13Hi, baby.
03:14This is good.
03:15Okay.
03:16And there's betta fish, Lisa.
03:17Wait, where?
03:18They're over there.
03:19Oh.
03:20There are you guys' gifts.
03:20They're so exciting.
03:21Oh, my gosh.
03:22Are you kidding?
03:23Do I get to go home with a fish?
03:24Yes.
03:26A goodie bag is usually a gift for me, not a responsibility for me.
03:30I mean, the more the merrier.
03:31I'm an empty nest.
03:32It doesn't mean I can't care for a fish.
03:34These fish, they kill each other, so you have to separate them.
03:38They're fighting fish, just like my friends.
03:40Should we get seated?
03:53So this is the Dom Perignon 2003?
03:55Yes, it is.
03:55Oh, my goodness.
03:56Should we do a cheers?
03:57Should I be looking for the tears of the deceased that made it happen, not the tears of the deceased?
04:02You guys are drinking Dom Perignon 2003.
04:06In 2003, it was a heat wave.
04:085,600 people died, and it made the best grapes of all time.
04:11Oh, thank you so much.
04:20So I invited you all because this was an important day, and I felt like I needed a group around me of, I feel like, real friendship.
04:34If you notice, the one's not here, which is Brittany, and I did let her know why she wasn't invited.
04:41I just want you to know that I'm having my event today, and I did not invite you because you told me that I was the most ungodly person that you've ever met.
04:53Okay.
04:54You are the least Christ-like person I have ever met in my entire life.
05:00I meant that in the moment because I felt like you were super mean, and God wouldn't be mean to people.
05:06But it was a really terrible thing to say, and I'm sorry.
05:10I appreciate that.
05:11She did apologize, which shocked me, and she meant it.
05:16She meant it, and I just about hit the floor.
05:19I looked at my dog, and I was like, should I invite her?
05:23Do you think that I should invite her?
05:26I'm like, give me a paw if I should just change my mind and invite her.
05:32No.
05:33But he didn't give me a paw, so she's not here.
05:35And I feel like if she could apologize, we should be able to come together and understand each other, understand why we're hurt, understand what really happened or what didn't happen.
05:56And just apologize.
06:00And say, you know what?
06:01I'm sorry if that offended you, or I'm sorry.
06:04Oh my gosh, that's a magical sentence.
06:06Are you listening, Lisa?
06:07Are you listening to what Mary's saying?
06:08Are you listening to what Mary's saying?
06:11Is this a fight?
06:12I talked to Lisa about it, but there was no I'm sorry said, and you didn't say I'm sorry to me, and I was trying to tell you, I was deeply offended.
06:19What was you hurt about?
06:20Well, I was hurt that, like, this really great, amazing trip ended up in Brittany being, like, corralled off a plane by us, sobbing.
06:34She can't even stand Brittany.
06:36And she can't stand Brittany.
06:38And they were caressing her and helping her.
06:41It was really bad.
06:41It was a very intense, horrible situation.
06:44And, like, you both are like, nothing happened.
06:47She's crazy.
06:48And, like, you're crazy.
06:49Nothing happened.
06:50I did nothing to Brittany.
06:51I don't agree with what she said.
06:53And I'm not going to be held responsible for what she said.
06:55I'm paraphrasing.
06:57We never discussed what even happened.
07:02Okay.
07:02Tell me what happened that warranted our trip ending with one of our friends, like, never wanting to be in the same room as you or you again.
07:10She holds both of you equally accountable.
07:12Well, that's weird.
07:13I was reacting to her very malicious actions.
07:18And the reaction was not right time, not right place.
07:22I mean, girl, it was much more than wrong place, wrong time.
07:25I'm Meredith's friend.
07:27And I feel like Meredith was beyond upset.
07:31I was upset on the plane, venting to my friend, crying.
07:33Yeah, she was crying.
07:34Well, because what we all witnessed was different.
07:36It was like you were taunting Brittany and calling her names.
07:39She didn't try to write it once.
07:41It was all, like, to me.
07:42It was in earshot so that Brittany could hear it.
07:44It was all to me.
07:45Everything she said, over-the-ear headphones and a movie or something on.
07:50And she could still hear you.
07:52Meredith was absolutely diabolical on the airplane.
07:55There would be brief moments of peace, and then it would slowly pick up again, and it would kind of crescendo.
08:01She has ranges of emotion and tone and volume.
08:04We were in the disgusting and vile range for a solid two hours.
08:07You are vile!
08:09You utterly disgust me!
08:12The fact that these girls exacerbated this into something that it wasn't is kind of bullsh**.
08:19I vented on a plane to a friend for maybe 30 minutes, and suddenly I'm the bad guy?
08:28We were there, we heard it, and we were present.
08:31And if all of us are saying what we heard, and it's all lining up against what she said that she actually did,
08:37then here we are.
08:41If Brittany's hair was wet, we took care of Brittany after the fight,
08:44because she was hyperventilating, sobbing, because she was terrorized for five hours.
08:47Oh my gosh.
08:48Okay, well I slept and watched two movies, so it was not five hours.
08:51Try again.
08:53What movies did you watch?
08:55I watched...
08:56Crazy Rich Asians, because we had the same...
08:57Yeah, Crazy Rich Asians, and one other movie I don't recall the name of.
09:04Then what happened at the end of Crazy Rich Asians?
09:08What? Are we really doing this?
09:10I don't remember.
09:11You think I remember?
09:12Well, I usually remember movies I watch.
09:14Do you?
09:15Crazy Rich Asians has a big ending.
09:17It's a big moment.
09:18You'll remember. Think of it.
09:19I honestly don't remember.
09:21Did you watch it?
09:22I did.
09:23How does it end?
09:24How did it end?
09:24He goes on the plane, and he, like, stops everyone, and, like, is like, I want to marry you.
09:33I was going to do it by a pond or something, and then that didn't happen.
09:39And then they have, like, a big party for them.
09:42Is it good?
09:43And weren't there synchronized swimmers?
09:44No, because I obviously fell asleep before the end, because I didn't see that part.
09:50Were you sleep talking?
09:52No, I was not.
09:53Because I was awake the entire flight, and I could hear you the entire flight.
09:56Well, that's impossible.
10:02I heard you yelling back there.
10:04Five rows in front of you, and I heard you yelling.
10:06It's not true.
10:08She was sobbing because of what you were saying about her.
10:12You should support her.
10:12You were screaming, screaming horrific things.
10:14I was not screaming.
10:16And we all saw the same thing, Meredith.
10:18You lost it.
10:19I think Meredith has a right to, like, lose her s*** sometimes.
10:22Not on a plane.
10:23I think not with a friend.
10:23No, you know what?
10:24Sometimes with friends, and you can't hold your emotions.
10:26Okay, so it's unforgivable from having no feelings.
10:29It requires an apology.
10:32Do you feel bad that Brittany is upset?
10:35I already told her I feel bad that she's upset.
10:36You don't feel bad that Brittany's upset.
10:37I already told you.
10:38I feel badly that I hurt Brittany's feelings.
10:41Unfortunately, Brittany does not feel badly at all that she hurt my feelings.
10:48So, there's nowhere to go, and at the end of the day, she doesn't like me, and I don't like her.
10:53We don't need to be friends.
10:55Everyone can move on.
10:56Feeling badly as sorry is different from sorry.
10:58Are you sorry you hurt her feelings?
11:00I'm sorry that she heard me venting, and it hurt her.
11:04Yes, I am.
11:05Okay.
11:06But I am entitled to my feelings.
11:07You are.
11:08You are.
11:09Yeah, but Meredith, you lost the right to cry when you guys harassed her on the plane.
11:13I lost the right to my feelings.
11:20You lost the privilege to speak about it.
11:23Okay.
11:23Well, then you're...
11:24That's great.
11:25Look at me.
11:25So, stop talking to me, then.
11:27A little more.
11:29A little more.
11:29Yes.
11:32You told me I lost my privilege to speak.
11:34Okay, so hang me on the four words I said, because I'll explain why I said those words.
11:40I said them because I felt like we got on the plane having your back, and whatever happened
11:46on the plane swapped that right on its head, and it went to you and Lisa looking like bullies.
11:54You were mad.
11:55You were telling us all to take notes, and you left the plane, and you left the plane.
11:59And you guys did not seem upset at all.
12:01Brittany, however, had to be, like, physically carried through customs by us.
12:05So, for me to say you lost your privilege to hang your hat on the victim, you did, because
12:10whatever happened on the plane tipped the scales, and you're in the wrong.
12:23Whatever happened on the plane tipped the scales, and you're in the wrong.
12:41Please.
12:42Please.
12:43I lost my privilege to speak, so I won't speak.
12:46That's fine.
12:47For Heather not to give me benefit of the doubt and a little bit of grace is actually shocking.
12:53She should just be a human being and not a judgmental bitch.
12:57It is okay for you to be upset.
13:01So, Lisa, had I treated you like that on the plane, would you have thought that was okay?
13:07I think she felt like, holy s***, that was a f***ing nightmare, and I don't know how I'm
13:11going to navigate my way out of this.
13:13I did not feel that at all.
13:14Why didn't you go through customs with us?
13:15I actually have global entry and should have used it.
13:27Wait, you have global entry?
13:29I didn't realize that.
13:30I was like, it's not on my app or anything, so I didn't realize it.
13:33It wasn't on my ticket.
13:34Because we had to stand in line for a minute.
13:36I like this lie because it's so obvious that she's lying.
13:39You don't add global entry to your ticket.
13:42Global entry is something that you have.
13:44You're identified as this person.
13:46It's not like TSA pre-check on your ticket.
13:49It's not something that you forget to add.
13:52It's something that you don't have, Lisa.
13:54Like, why didn't you use it?
13:55You did not use it.
13:56I didn't realize it until I was in the line.
13:58But then you stayed in line by yourself for five hours and didn't use it?
14:04Don't worry about it.
14:05Why didn't you stay by Britney, though?
14:07I needed space.
14:09I had my AirPods in, and I was listening to Kendrick Lamar.
14:12Not Kendrick.
14:13The way I was feeling it, I do love Kendrick.
14:15I'm a Kendrick girl.
14:16Lisa, we were all there.
14:17I can't imagine having to sit next to Meredith in that moment of rage.
14:23I'm not attacking you.
14:29I don't think you are.
14:30I'm really not.
14:31I love you.
14:32I care about you.
14:33And, you know, you were hurt.
14:35And I know that.
14:38I didn't have a lot of support at that point.
14:41Meredith, we love you.
14:43We support you.
14:45I supported you in that moment.
14:47I did not like what Britney did to you.
14:49And I think everyone would agree.
14:51Meredith, I mean, you basically said to me, if I pick Britney and side with Britney when you're hurting, we're done.
14:58I don't want to feel like that with you.
14:59I didn't say we're done.
15:00I said it was noted.
15:01But that's exactly what Britney said to you.
15:03Like, if you're going to side with Meredith.
15:05I know, but I can ask this.
15:06I didn't threaten you.
15:07That's exactly what Britney said.
15:08I just said, I'm aware of that.
15:10Okay, I see it.
15:11If you're going to side with Britney, it's noted.
15:12So, that's not what was said to Lisa.
15:14Lisa was threatened.
15:15She said, I'm going to come for you if you don't agree with me.
15:17No, she said, I'm going to have a problem with you if you don't agree with me.
15:20But you did say, one thing you did say in a very classy way was like.
15:25In a classy way, is that you mean a classy way?
15:27No, no, no.
15:27She basically said it's you or Britney to her.
15:30You did say that.
15:31I did not say that.
15:32Okay, thank you.
15:33Yeah.
15:34I did not say that.
15:36Did it ever occur to you that maybe some of the things your friends are saying did come out of your mouth because you were emotional?
15:43And that's okay?
15:44I know what I said.
15:45Well, why does Mary, Heather, and Whitney have the same story?
15:49And then you have a different story.
15:52I'm just trying to understand what happened.
15:52The only thing they're saying is that I asked Whitney for the TikTok.
15:55Why don't we stop playing the game of Clue and just say, hey, they didn't like your behavior.
15:59They didn't like that you were upset.
16:01That's the bottom line.
16:01It is.
16:02But you did not stop.
16:04You didn't.
16:04Well, that's just not possible because I slept and everything.
16:07The fact that you don't remember concerns me.
16:09It really does.
16:10I do remember.
16:11Yeah, but...
16:12I do remember.
16:12I got on the plane.
16:13I vented to Lisa for a little bit.
16:15I put on a movie.
16:16I fell asleep.
16:17I woke up.
16:18No, I was venting to a friend.
16:18Meredith, I don't know if you remember everything, though.
16:21And I've said...
16:21Okay.
16:21I really do.
16:21I'm not going to go back and forth on all this.
16:24I remember everything.
16:25And I know what you're saying behind my back, so let's not go there, Whitney.
16:33She's not saying anything behind your back.
16:36I have not said anything behind your back except for voicing my concern about the situation.
16:41I guess I have misinformation, perhaps.
16:43You know, there's one person that I talked to who said something to Meredith.
16:50Uh-oh.
16:51I'll tell you.
16:53If Meredith doesn't want to, I will.
16:56You and I had lunch, and I talked to Meredith, and I said, what happened on the plane?
17:01She told me her side, and I said, well, it's being told to me that they saw you drinking
17:06in the club before you got on the plane.
17:09Did you see her drinking at the airport or on the plane?
17:11Yeah, in the airport lounge.
17:13Drinking on the plane, and it's being said that maybe you don't remember what you said,
17:18what you did.
17:19She told me she watched a movie.
17:22She went to sleep.
17:22Does she not remember?
17:24She blacked out?
17:25I do not have a substance abuse problem.
17:27I haven't even said that to you.
17:28And, Bronwyn, what were the implications that you walked away from the conversation?
17:33That you were drinking heavily and you didn't remember.
17:39Do you want to know how I feel?
17:40I'll tell you.
17:41I think it could be of three things, okay?
17:43So either you have hatred in your heart, you have an anger problem.
17:50I don't have an anger problem.
17:51Or you have a problem mixing substances.
17:54Do you think it's fair that based on what I witnessed, I would assume those three things?
18:00No, because what you're saying you witnessed, I don't believe, and you're a known liar.
18:03Look, I think it sounds like you were wrong on the plane.
18:06I've tried to be supportive of you.
18:09I've tried to ask a lot of questions, and I tried to have your back because I thought that was a step too far.
18:13And I appreciate that.
18:14But then you outed it at this table.
18:16No, I gave her a chance to tell me herself, and she didn't.
18:19I never said a word.
18:21I never said what it was, and I never said who said it.
18:25Now I've damaged my relationship with Whitney, trying to help you.
18:28You do realize you were wrong, right?
18:31I mean, you feel like you were wrong.
18:33I was reacting to her behavior.
18:38What more is it you want from me?
18:40I don't know what I'm going to do with Brittany.
18:43So that's all I can say for now.
18:45You don't have to have the answer, you know?
18:47Yeah.
18:58There you go.
19:03I'm not my coordination.
19:05You get it.
19:05That's it.
19:06Yeah, yeah.
19:09Good.
19:10Yeah.
19:11Pull it.
19:14Pull it like your life is hands on it.
19:16If you can talk, that means you're not working out hard enough.
19:19I don't agree with that.
19:21You're skiing.
19:23You're going down a mountain.
19:25The snow is hitting you in the front.
19:26Good.
19:27Nice.
19:27There you go.
19:27You're going to soak it up.
19:29Andy, shh.
19:29Okay.
19:30Okay.
19:35On the top shelf there is a, like a pink, um, what is that called?
19:40Whisk.
19:40A whisk.
19:41Yeah, thank you.
19:42I was emailing this morning with my attorney about my citizenship.
19:46Oh, what's happening with that?
19:47Surprise!
19:48I am not actually an American citizen.
19:51I was born in Brazil and my parents are from the UK.
19:54So I had dual citizenship in both.
19:56And a few years ago, I decided I wanted to become a U.S. citizen and get to vote.
20:01And honestly, I'm the only person in America excited about jury duty.
20:05I have an outfit in mind.
20:06I'm very ready to do my duty.
20:08My siblings were all born here.
20:10They all got their U.S. passports automatically.
20:11And then we had an oops.
20:15You can't call me an oops to my face, messy.
20:17Oh, my gosh.
20:18Oh, my gosh.
20:19Oh, my gosh.
20:20Oh, my gosh.
20:22What do you think of the office?
20:24You guys haven't seen it yet, have you?
20:26Grand new office.
20:27I know.
20:28I've been working hard on it.
20:29When did you get all this stuff?
20:31Where is it from?
20:32I ordered it all from Wayfair, all from the same place.
20:34Sit in the chairs.
20:35They swivel.
20:36I can hardly recognize my life right now.
20:38I lived in this small home for 20 years, raised my kids there.
20:42Yeah, do a passe.
20:44Oh, hit it.
20:46Now I have this huge house with my own office, with a pool, and three daughters going to college.
20:52So I can be here, and I can be watching my birds.
20:56Wait, are you using bird glasses right now?
20:58Well, they're not bird glasses.
20:59They're called binoculars.
21:01That's my bad.
21:03And it's totally rewarding and fulfilling in a way that I never imagined.
21:08But I also noticed that the binoculars work on the pool boys.
21:12Oh.
21:13There's something about manual labor that just is fascinating.
21:16You are fascinated by this.
21:19Shouldn't pool boys be in swimsuits?
21:20Like overage for a pool boy.
21:21Oh, yeah.
21:22Well, he's a pool man.
21:38Hey, Mare.
21:44Hi.
21:45Oh, you have it all ready for me.
21:47I love this.
21:48I have had the craziest work day.
21:50Is there someone that can do my nail while I'm here, too?
21:53I broke one yesterday, and it's driving me nuts.
21:57I am so busy with work and slammed and all this nonsense with everyone from the lunch.
22:03I literally am like, what was that?
22:06I know.
22:07Weird.
22:08I was the most surprised by Heather.
22:10Mm-hmm.
22:10I don't expect her to take my side, but I expected a little bit of support as a friend.
22:15I felt like she was leading the charge against me.
22:18She had the biggest problems.
22:20Me and you, yeah.
22:21She was a judge and jury.
22:23That was weird, but quite frankly, not as big of an issue to me as Whitney.
22:28Why is she sitting there trying to judge my mental health and my drinking?
22:35These are damaging false rumors to spread about somebody.
22:39When did Whitney get a degree in psych?
22:42Is she a psychologist now?
22:43For a woman who's on every journey under the sun, from healing to religion to whatever,
22:49I think she should focus on herself.
22:53Like, why is she focusing on me?
22:55How do you plan to move forward with Whitney?
22:58I don't.
22:59It seems to me like they're trying to exacerbate the situation with Brittany.
23:05I had a conversation with Brittany.
23:06I met up with Brittany.
23:07Oh, how did that go?
23:09She emotionally feels like she experienced a lot.
23:16So we really haven't talked since the trip.
23:19What I've been hearing, which is that you don't feel like you contributed to me.
23:23I don't.
23:24I feel like you were absolutely as complicit as the person accosting me.
23:30Well, I think your recollection of what happened on the flight is inaccurate.
23:33How?
23:33I feel like I was helping you out, whether you want to believe it or not.
23:37It was literally like the sixth worst thing that has ever happened to me in my entire life.
23:42Is there anything that you can actually say, I'm sorry, Brittany, for not dot dot dot?
23:50But I did apologize to you.
23:51I feel badly that you didn't feel like I was supporting you when I felt like I was.
23:58I feel like we're in a good space.
24:00We're never going to agree on what happened on the plane.
24:04That's never going to happen.
24:05But I do feel bad that her feelings were hurt.
24:07Here's the thing, Lisa.
24:08As far as it goes with Brittany, I'm sorry for her.
24:12Yeah.
24:12I feel sorry for her as a human being, period.
24:16And that's why I'm just going to be the bigger person and move on.
24:19Has she been horrible to me?
24:20Yes.
24:21Yes.
24:21But do I feel sorry for Brittany that she can't hold a relationship?
24:25She's, you know, struggles professionally?
24:27100%.
24:28It's kind of like just a sad specimen.
24:30She was asking me how you feel, and I said, I think you should talk to Meredith about it.
24:34I'm happy to talk to Brittany.
24:42Hey, Siri, call Heather Gay.
24:59What's up, babe?
25:00I'm on my way.
25:01Do you have a truck?
25:03It's so big.
25:04So I need you to come out in your driveway and help guide me in, okay?
25:12Pull straight.
25:18Towards you?
25:19Yeah, pull straight.
25:20I can back up, too.
25:22No, we're clear.
25:23Just go fast.
25:25Why fast?
25:26Keep going.
25:26Fast, fast, fast.
25:27Crank.
25:27Oh, that was my mom.
25:28Faster, faster.
25:29Wait, don't hit the mailbox.
25:30Stop.
25:31Back it up.
25:32And then, perfect.
25:34Stop.
25:35Stop.
25:36Are we going to a funeral?
25:37Yeah, it's the funeral of the mattress.
25:39I did not want to keep my marital mattress for 20 years because of some sentimental feeling.
25:45I was just frozen in time.
25:48And it's starting to rain, which I think is appropriate.
25:51Tears from heaven.
25:52It's cleansing.
25:53Look, this is not a mattress tossing.
25:56This is a funeral.
25:57Let's do this.
25:58Okay.
25:59It's a funeral for the life that is now gone forever.
26:03I think I just broke the box springs with my heels.
26:05Well, yeah, you're aerating the box springs.
26:07It's going to pierce.
26:08I've got to get the shoes off.
26:10Give me some balance.
26:11Oh, my gosh.
26:11Don't let me.
26:13Let's turn it around so that the stained sides are not on the camera.
26:17Okay.
26:18Turn it this way.
26:20Look away.
26:22Oh, I'm not going to look.
26:24I killed a few men on this mattress.
26:26You killed more than a few men on here.
26:28And a few chickens.
26:29Okay.
26:29Rest assured, these are not sex stains, okay?
26:32We got momentum.
26:33Not one sperm was spilt on the mattress.
26:37Go way low, Whitney.
26:39Whoa!
26:40God does not like waste.
26:42And I was a good Mormon.
26:44This mattress went from our very first apartment in Huntington Beach to our first house for 20 years.
26:50And then to this house.
26:52This wrote two books.
26:53This bore three babies.
26:56This lived 14 years of marriage.
26:58Yeah, I saw.
26:59And now it's time?
27:01It's time.
27:01For something new.
27:02I'm sure there's a metaphor somewhere in there, but, like, I'm keeping my expectations low.
27:07Do you have the address?
27:08Yes, I do, on my phone.
27:10It's a mattress recycling place.
27:12I just want a bed to sleep on that isn't stained with 20 years of broken dreams.
27:17So, vultures.
27:21Vultures.
27:23I know.
27:23Have you seen me, Sarah Meredith?
27:25I haven't seen her talk to either of them since lunch.
27:28I mean, Meredith has been a solid friendship for me for years.
27:31And so, I just have never been at war with her.
27:35I've never been really in a situation where I didn't know how to defend her.
27:40But right now, she's put me not only at odds with her, but at odds with, you know, the future of our friendship.
27:47I'm her scapegoat.
27:48I've realized this.
27:49Like, she always just has to have someone to be mad at and to point the blame.
27:54But I genuinely am concerned for her.
27:57I'm worried that she really did black out.
27:59I've told you many times in private, like, it reminds me of what my dad was like.
28:04It's got to be so triggering.
28:06It is.
28:07When someone blacks out, from my experience, it's usually a mix of alcohol, drugs, or a bad combination of prescriptions that you shouldn't have.
28:17So, by Meredith not taking accountability, that's another trigger for me of dealing with addicts in my life.
28:22Like, my father for years never had a problem.
28:25And it just sucks because I was fully planning on talking to Meredith and telling her my concerns for her as her friend.
28:32I would have never, ever told Bronwyn what I experienced on the plane had I know that little coward would run straight to her like a venomous, hungry snake.
28:42I like your outfit.
28:56Hi.
28:57Hi.
28:57I like your outfit.
29:02I like yours.
29:03You look so pretty.
29:04Thanks.
29:09Perfect.
29:10i'm still recovering from what happened to me on the plane ride i'm still very raw but it did give
29:18me clarity on what i need to focus on right now and that is reconnecting with olivia brittany yes
29:25hi welcome to purple sky i'm ashley we need some professional help thanks why don't you share with
29:33me kind of what brings the two of you here today do you want to go ahead do you want me to go or
29:39do you want to go um i mean i don't even i don't even know where to begin that's the problem it's
29:44like things were good until she divorced my dad okay and that's fine that had its own hardships
29:52but she did get married fairly quickly he was kind of her whole world and we weren't her priority
30:02we weren't even close to being her priority when she married her second husband she honestly became
30:10more of a mom to my new step siblings than to me and my sister because she wanted her husband to
30:18appreciate her more love her more and i moved out of my mom's house to live with my dad
30:25we didn't talk for a while from my perspective it was seven years of her neglecting her children
30:35she put all of her time and attention into her new step kids like she would celebrate their wins
30:43but then not ours and just kind of left my sister and i i feel like we have a connection and so even
30:53though like you haven't done and made the best decisions i still find myself wanting a relationship
31:02with you yeah but my brain's telling me that i'm gonna get hurt more than i'm gonna get any love out
31:11of it i wish there was some way to tell her that i've learned that i've grown and maybe that's why i
31:17want to understand why i did that because i don't feel like i would ever do that again i would never ever
31:22ever like allow myself to be put in the cage where i can't be a mom to my kids well i mean i think what
31:30the two of you are describing right is like a really good representation of trauma that's what
31:34it is right it's this realization of even if it's different this time it feels the same even if it's
31:40not yeah so if you could tell me like what is the number one goal for you and coming and working on
31:46your relationship what would it be i don't want anything for me i just want you to have what you
31:52need for you to move on but that's not how family therapy works like you get things too
31:57like you're just as deserving as her to like move on and heal from what happened in your
32:03relationship i just don't feel like i am i don't feel like i'm worthy of anything
32:09for some reason i feel the same way what like i feel like
32:14i lived so many years thinking that i wasn't lovable and i feel like i often struggle with that and so
32:24like letting people get close is hard and i just feel like
32:29the second they get to know me they're just gonna leave again
32:33that's heartbreaking because she like has so much to give and if i had only made different choices
32:41my kids wouldn't be wouldn't have any of this trauma
32:45i really appreciate taking accountability that way obviously the goal is to rebuild the relationship
32:51together but i'm curious do you think you have forgiven yourself no i haven't at all i can't yet
33:00i can't even like begin to describe like the remorse and the self-loathing i feel what's it like for you
33:08to hear your mom say that like she doesn't forgive herself weirdly enough it feels kind of like reassuring
33:15to hear that she does realize that what she did was wrong and because i feel like your
33:25response to a lot of things is to shove it under the rug and act like everything's perfect and
33:30we're a perfect family and we have a perfect relationship to hear her take accountability
33:37actually makes me feel better
33:39i just appreciate you wanting to give me a chance it means the world to me
33:47okay do you get it now bonsai by me i was trying to explain it to you and i knew you were not
34:07understanding it but i didn't get it goodbye hi hi how are you i'm bronwyn hi this is my mom margie
34:16and my daughter glenn hi guys welcome in this first part's a little tricky you got to find the
34:21tree that really calls to you bonsai is all about the beauty that you see in the tree and once you
34:27found your special tree we'll meet you back at your table we'll make a really big mess okay okay are
34:31we all making a plant for your room one for my chameleon and one for me first step with your
34:36chopsticks open up the root base how loose does it need to be hers feels pretty loose i'm not a very
34:41zen person should we have a conversation with her you're done but with everything that's going on
34:47with my parents and then todd and after mary's lunch i need some zen in my life i probably shouldn't have
34:53worn valentino to sit here and do this so i'm hoping that these bonsai trees are little miracle
34:59workers how many chameleons do you think could it could handle she's talking about breeding her
35:04chameleon now no i don't want to breed him he's been looking for a mate he has been how do you know
35:11he's looking for me sticks his penis out and walks around so i'm thinking i was going to post something
35:17somewhere of being like are there any female chameleons in the area and set him like a little date
35:22so he can just get it out of his system i think i should but it's not here okay so where is it portland
35:36what are you going to do in portland i don't know i just think it's a cool place
35:40like you told me you didn't want to go to byu and you wish you could have gone to new york and done the
35:44things you wanted to do and like have a new experience yeah so like i have to have a new
35:50experience i have to figure it out for myself too you can't just stay in the same spot wise woman
35:56i really have never been alone i literally went from my parents house to a very short stint at
36:02college and then gwen i think it's long past time that i was an adult by myself but gwen's just more
36:08excited about spreading her wings in that way than i am maddie you're staying with me forever no i'm not
36:14ready to to peace out on you guys because i need i need some time but i i need to find my own space
36:22is it todd todd upset you because i can get rid of him i want to see that i think todd's going to get
36:28rid of you by all means don't tempt me with a good time okay honestly i know you're laughing but it's
36:35really uncool that the two of you have planned this at the same time to do this he can come visit me
36:40desert me i brought you here to make bonsai trees why does that hurt your feelings no one says that
36:46they hate you they're just saying that you have to like experience new things okay you're not wrong
36:51it's just it's just hard and i don't want to i don't want to leave she thinks all the best days of
36:57her life are still ahead of her and these were the best days of my life was her being with yeah it's not
37:02that i don't want you guys i want you to be comfortable and i want her to go do all the things she
37:05wants to do and try all the things she wants to do but i do feel like i'm being left behind
37:13i have really put so much into showing up for my mom when she was sick showing up for her when she
37:20needed help with my dad and i feel like we've just gotten to a good place and i kind of settled into a
37:25routine and we can be giggly how many times are people going to accuse todd of cheating on me before
37:30i say i need somebody to tell me what's going on here it's like lucille ball you got some splating
37:35to do okay you want to try blowing out your candles oh oh muzzy did it for you muzzy's such
37:43a sneak she did it for you huh we're having these nice moments i just kind of feel like the progress
37:49that we've just made it's like slipping through my fingers if she moves out when you were coming back
37:54and forth from san francisco to utah on the weekends yeah i knew that someday you'd be moving oh and it
38:02was hard i know so you know it was hard so don't do it to me you know what i'm feeling yeah oh my gosh
38:12i'm just working my mom's i know you're sobbing i know she's just they're playing we're done i feel
38:18like i'm gonna tanya harding both of you i'm gonna break both of you's legs and then when the two of
38:21you're like oh we can't take care of ourselves we have to stay here i'll be like shocking news
38:26muzzy wants to bring her secret boyfriend over i swear to god if that was the problem i would be so
38:30muzzy already told me about it boyfriend i have a husband what do you mean i would so support this
38:36for her muzzy muzzy do it no thank you
38:51you
39:04hi britney hi
39:08meredith reached out to me and asked me to meet up with her i want to hear if she's willing to own
39:13any of what happened if she's willing to give me some sort of apology i'm more than willing to
39:21own my part of it thank you for coming here today yeah it's really pretty yeah
39:28i wanted you to come today because i wanted to talk to you face to face
39:34i wanted to tell you that i am sorry that you heard me talking to lisa on the plane
39:43and that it was definitely the wrong place the wrong time and i feel terribly that i hurt your
39:50feelings i don't want to do that so i'm sorry for that you know i try to treat people with kindness
40:02and respect and um i don't feel like it's been an easy path for us you know i think it's been a
40:13little bit difficult and so i'm hopeful that we can move forward and you know at a bare minimum
40:20treat each other with kindness and respect yeah um thank you thank you for that apology that means
40:31a lot i still feel hurt and traumatized but i've been thinking a lot about forgiveness lately i've
40:38been asking for forgiveness in my own life so i'm choosing for myself to forgive meredith for what she
40:44did i mean i'm not aware of the intricacies and the nuances of your relationship
40:52and i think it was really
40:57it was a shady thing to do to bring it up to tick tock
41:03and i i realized that it was a trigger for you and i'm sorry to be clear the real trigger was
41:12that you came in under the premise that you were trying to help me when you were trying to hurt me
41:16yeah you're right so i appreciate you being honest about that that is actually means a lot i didn't
41:23expect that you're welcome i apologize that her feelings were hurt she apologized for intentionally
41:31hurting me with the tick tock so i'll take that move on in peace it's hard to have such contention
41:39because everyone's been really torn this last week and it's been a big it's been a big deal and i
41:45don't want it to be a thing anymore i i completely agree i don't know if we'll ever get there but um
41:51i think this civility right let's start over that civility is a good place to start
41:59baby step baby step it's a baby step yeah
42:02next time on the real housewives of salt lake city do you think i can drive in this you don't
42:12drive that well when you're not in that i don't want to ever do business with my husband again
42:18you're a liar alcoholic pill popper can i get more alcohol that's a shame it comes to this
42:29i brought everybody a gift multi-drug urine test cup
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