00:00Who are the Russian propagandists sanctioned by the EU?
00:07How can you clamp down on propagandists?
00:10Well, according to the European Union, with sanctions.
00:13On the 15th of December, 12 people were handed sanctions
00:16for participating in pro-Kremlin foreign manipulation and interference operations.
00:22Three of them are Westerners with close ties to Moscow,
00:25who participate in pro-Russian disinformation campaigns.
00:29John Mark Dugan, an American who acquired dual Russian nationality.
00:33A former deputy sheriff from Florida,
00:35he has been pushing the copycat network of sham news websites.
00:39This operation mimics legitimate European and American news organisations
00:43through fake outlets,
00:45inserting propaganda narratives into videos and articles
00:48which are often produced with the help of AI.
00:51Xavier Moreau, a French citizen of Russian nationality.
00:54The former military officer spreads pro-Kremlin propaganda through his blog.
00:58He also appears as a commentator in Russian and fringe French media.
01:02Jacques Baud, a former Swiss intelligence officer turned propagandist
01:06and also a media commentator.
01:08We spoke to Hervé Le Tocqueur from Czech First,
01:12a company which tracks disinformation about their profiles.
01:16We have today's profiles like Xavier Moreau,
01:18we have profiles like John Mark Dugan,
01:20who are people who represent a certain form of patriotism,
01:25who have been former military officers,
01:27former people involved in training services,
01:29a former sheriff, for example.
01:31So we see that these characters are particularly interesting for the regime,
01:35because they have an authority to do,
01:39or supposed to allow them to diffuse their narratives.
01:44The goal of sanctions is to incite listed individuals to change their behaviour.
01:49While they can appeal against sanctions,
01:51these are also regularly reviewed, often on a six-month basis.
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