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00:00Hello and welcome to Sorry I Didn't Know.
00:17I'm Cheesy Abadooloo, your chef for tonight's exposition
00:21as we scale paths carved by our pioneering brothers and sisters
00:25and ascend the stunning stories that have long been kept from the summit.
00:29I present to you history with a touch of colour.
00:35And to my left, a man whose face has been chiselled by the gods,
00:39it's Richard Blackwood.
00:45Who's with you tonight, Richard?
00:47First of all, thank you. I appreciate that.
00:50And it's true. So with me tonight is a presenter and broadcast journalist
00:54whose career in TV started all because of Idris Elba.
00:58It's TV powerhouse, Ria Hebden.
01:04And I'm also joined by a comedian who recently became a doctor
01:08and has taken on the mountains of New Zealand,
01:11my bedroom, Shazia Mirza.
01:13APPLAUSE
01:19To my right, he causes an avalanche of laughter everywhere he goes.
01:23It's Eddie Caddy.
01:30Who's helping you out tonight, Eddie?
01:32Cheesy, that's my avalanche.
01:34On my team, I'm joined by an honorary Brit whose new show is called The Golden Wrath.
01:39So don't piss her off tonight.
01:41It's Desiree Burch.
01:42APPLAUSE
01:44Now, I'm also joined by a comedian who became one of the youngest on the circuit
01:50when he kicked off his career in 2009.
01:53It's my guy.
01:54It's Matt Richardson.
01:55Matt, you've kicked off a new tour called Brash and it's all about adulting.
02:03Yeah, well, yeah, it's about growing up and moving.
02:06I've moved to the countryside and a very similar diverse mix to this.
02:10And very similar faces in the pub.
02:13We do have a gang in the village.
02:15That's quite exciting.
02:16Oh, yeah.
02:17Village in Oxfordshire.
02:18We've got four boys that hang outside the village shop.
02:19They call themselves a gang.
02:20They call themselves the village people.
02:21They've got no idea.
02:22Yeah.
02:23Well, you catch them outside the pub and they're threatening you like this.
02:26Yeah, basically that.
02:28They just hang outside the shop going,
02:30your blood, what's going on, man?
02:31I'm like, you're called Julian.
02:32What are you playing at?
02:34Desiree, you are touring with your Golden Wrath show
02:38which sees you embrace a new era of Desiree.
02:41Can you explain that to us?
02:42Yeah, this is the old era, Chizzy.
02:45This is the grown-ass era.
02:47The second adolescence in which it's like, you know,
02:50we always talk about like the metamorphosis of the butterfly,
02:53but it's like there's a point at which a butterfly is in a cocoon
02:56and it's just a sack of goo.
02:58And it doesn't know what it is or what it's supposed to be,
03:01but it's really trying to become.
03:03Where it's kind of like, oh, I actually know who I am,
03:06what I care about, don't care what people think about me,
03:09but I also need to like start my body up for 30 minutes in the morning.
03:14Like if I don't roll it out like pizza dough on a mat with a roller for 45 minutes,
03:17I might not walk today.
03:20Priya, tell us more about how Idris helped start your TV career.
03:24Oh, yes.
03:25So in the early days, I black myself went into an award show called the Screen Nation Awards
03:30and Idris had been nominated for an award, so I knew he was going to be there.
03:33Got myself a cameraman, got there on the red carpet and he came up and I was like,
03:37right, I'm going to smash this, ask the questions.
03:39And then behind us, the branded banner collapsed and fell on us.
03:43Oh.
03:44And it was, you know, that moment you're just like,
03:45no, the crucial interview is ruined.
03:47But he looked at me like a true pro and he was like, Ria, we go again.
03:50And I was like, thank you so much.
03:52So we went again, got the cut, took it to ITV and the rest is history.
03:56Oh, that's lovely.
03:57Lovely.
03:58Love you too.
04:02Shazia.
04:03Hi, Chissie.
04:04Oh, man, you've been there like every season, right?
04:06I know, I'm nearly black.
04:08Like many of you from an ethnic background,
04:13your parents wanted you to become a doctor.
04:15Is that still something they crave?
04:16My parents, they always wanted me to be a doctor
04:19because there aren't enough Asian doctors in Britain.
04:21Yeah.
04:22And now I'm a doctor on EastEnders and my parents have gone round in Birmingham
04:26knocking on every Asian person's door going,
04:29finally, my daughter is a doctor.
04:32And they're like, it's not a real one.
04:34And they're like, it'll do, it'll do.
04:36Give it up for our amazing guests, everybody.
04:46It's time for our first round, Guess My Game.
04:49Now, I'm going to show you the panel a photo of someone
04:51who made the world a better place
04:53and they just need to tell me what they're famous for.
04:56OK, can you tell me who this is?
05:00Matt?
05:01Is it the woman who invented pretending to be on the phone
05:03when you're at work?
05:04I think she invented the phrase,
05:08these people are getting on my last nerve.
05:11Shazia.
05:12This woman is the new judge on Nigeria's Got Talent.
05:16LAUGHTER
05:21She looked at the camera going, go and get a proper job.
05:23LAUGHTER
05:25Matt?
05:26I mean, I'm not quite sure who she is, but I think she's suspicious
05:28because she's got two phones and that's never a good sign.
05:31LAUGHTER
05:32Eddie?
05:33OK, so she looks...
05:35It's an office.
05:36She looks very, very serious.
05:38A very important woman, obviously.
05:40A very dominant woman.
05:41She has things to say.
05:42She's the first black woman to have something to say.
05:44No, no, no, no, no, no.
05:46No, listen, listen.
05:47No, no, no, no.
05:49I'm going to give you the answer.
05:50This is Una Marson, a Jamaican activist and writer
05:54who became the BBC's first ever black producer in 1942.
05:58Wow.
05:59Right?
06:00APPLAUSE
06:02She was described as the first black British feminist
06:05to speak out against racism and sexism in Britain.
06:09Who is this happy chappy?
06:12Shazia?
06:13This is Britain's first black gay marriage celebration.
06:16Yes.
06:17Desiree?
06:18This is the first black man to have a conversation down the pub
06:21that didn't involve casual racism.
06:23He's overjoyed.
06:25This is the new black Dellen Rodney.
06:28LAUGHTER
06:31Is this when the Crays try to be more diverse?
06:35Ria?
06:36Is it the UK's first black landlord?
06:38Pop landlord?
06:39Oh!
06:40Is it?
06:41I'm going to give you a point.
06:43APPLAUSE
06:45The answer is George Berry, who, in 1965,
06:49became London's first black pub owner and licensee.
06:52Who is this?
06:56Matt?
06:57Is she the first contestant in Love Island on Mars?
07:00LAUGHTER
07:02Tonight in the solar system.
07:05LAUGHTER
07:06Desiree?
07:07She looks like every sort of arch-villain
07:11in a Tyler Perry film, you know?
07:13LAUGHTER
07:14Like, she knows what you did last summer.
07:16She could do bad all by herself.
07:17Like, whatever the new empire is, she's on top of it.
07:20Yeah.
07:21But with a good wig.
07:22Oh, oh, oh.
07:23Yeah, yeah.
07:24The new Marvel superhero whose power is her perfect hair.
07:27Yeah.
07:28Black Pan 10.
07:29LAUGHTER
07:34Wow.
07:35I'm going to give you the answer.
07:36This superfly sister is aerospace engineer, entrepreneur
07:39and former NASA rocket scientist Aisha Bowe,
07:42who made history this year when she joined an all-woman crew
07:45into space.
07:50Who is this?
07:52A woman who's just been burgled.
07:54Yeah.
07:55Yeah.
07:56Somebody waiting for that John Lewis delivery to show up.
07:59Eddie?
08:00I don't know.
08:01This just feels like parents' evening back in the days.
08:03Right.
08:04And my mum looked at me and said,
08:05wait till we get home.
08:06LAUGHTER
08:09Jamaican mastermind.
08:13Matt?
08:14I think this is actually a photo of the last time I did a tour
08:15date in Brixton.
08:16That's the whole thing.
08:17LAUGHTER
08:19Ria?
08:20She looks like an expert, doesn't she?
08:22The way she's sat, she looks quite authoritative, quite intelligent,
08:25like she's been interviewed.
08:27I'm going to reveal the answer.
08:28OK.
08:29This is Hope Powell, a former professional footballer
08:33with 66 caps for England, who also coached the women's team.
08:37She saw that glass ceiling and volleyed a football straight
08:40through it.
08:42OK, who is this lady?
08:45Is she the first woman who ever got her hand caught in something
08:48but didn't want to make a fuss about it?
08:50LAUGHTER
08:51Everything's fine.
08:53She looks like your ideal neighbour.
08:54As soon as you move in, you want some sugar?
08:57LAUGHTER
08:58She does low-key have, like, cool auntie vibes, though,
09:01like the one that's younger than your oldest sister
09:03who, like, tells you how to find the guys with the big D.
09:06LAUGHTER
09:07That's, like, what a cool aunt will do.
09:09Your mum won't, but a cool aunt will.
09:11LAUGHTER
09:12I can't miss, but this is legendary status, right?
09:15Like, I'm sitting, I'm trying to be nice, but I'm like,
09:17every time somebody says something, I say,
09:18you can't say that, really.
09:19LAUGHTER
09:20Richard, do you want to guess who it is?
09:21Oh, yeah, Jackie.
09:23Jackie?
09:24Graham.
09:25It certainly is.
09:26Is it?
09:30This fabulous queen is musical maestro Jackie Graham.
09:33Legend.
09:34And Jackie is in our audience tonight!
09:36Yes!
09:37What?!
09:38Yes!
09:39Yes!
09:40Yes!
09:41Yes!
09:42Yes!
09:43Yes!
09:44Yes!
09:45Yes!
09:46Yes!
09:47Yes!
09:48Jackie is the first black British female solo artist
09:50of six consecutive top 20 hits with tracks, including this one.
09:54Legendary!
10:00Jackie, we love you, and we just want to give you your flowers.
10:04Literally.
10:05Oh!
10:06Oh, wow.
10:07It's a beauty of heart.
10:09Thank you, darling.
10:10Thank you for the girls.
10:11Oh, wicked.
10:12And I would be the one to say, you want some sugar?
10:15Yeah!
10:16We want some, Jackie, we want some.
10:18Jackie, thank you so much.
10:19Yes, you have done.
10:24And at the end of that round, the winners are...
10:26Richard's team!
10:33Our next round is movie or movement.
10:36In this round, I'll show the teams a powerful quote.
10:39All they and you at home need to do is tell me whether it's from a movie
10:43or whether it was said by a political figure or activist.
10:46Richard's team, you're up first.
10:48Mm.
10:49Your quote is, if they put me in prison, they do not take away my
10:53liberty but reduce the little liberty I have.
10:56Now, is this a quote from a movie or a movement?
10:59I think it sounds like a movement.
11:00That's a movement.
11:01Yeah.
11:02Sounds like a movement.
11:03It's a movement.
11:05Correct.
11:06Two bonus points.
11:07Which movement is it from and who said it?
11:10Sounds like a Nelson Mandela movement.
11:12Nelson Mandela, yeah.
11:13Quote.
11:14We know that Nelson was put in prison.
11:15We also know that they put Muhammad Ali in prison.
11:18You've got to be honest, every black man that goes into prison
11:21comes out as Muhammad Ali.
11:23LAUGHTER
11:25Jesus!
11:26You're taking a lot of pressure off me, Shazia today.
11:28LAUGHTER
11:30My agent is downstairs shitting herself and you are helping me out.
11:33LAUGHTER
11:35It's a movement.
11:36It's a movement.
11:37It sounds like Mandela.
11:38It does, doesn't it?
11:39It does.
11:40It sounds like Mandela.
11:41Obviously, he went to prison.
11:42I'm going to go with Nelson Mandela.
11:44That's incorrect.
11:45And the team.
11:46Matt, what do you think?
11:47Oh, well, which movement to pick?
11:50Um...
11:51LAUGHTER
11:52I just think, you know, all of them.
11:54All of them are great.
11:56Big ally over here.
11:58Great work everyone's doing.
12:00And sorry for everything that we did.
12:03Um...
12:05I feel bloody terrible about it.
12:06I can't tell you.
12:07I mean, it's an absolute shocker.
12:09Very bad.
12:10Um...
12:11Ooh!
12:12Um...
12:13This is what Jamaican Mastermind is like in My Nightmares.
12:16I haven't got a fucking clue.
12:18LAUGHTER
12:19What are we going with?
12:20Muhammad Ali?
12:21Should we...?
12:22Yeah, yeah.
12:23Yeah, let's...
12:24Let's go for who's been in prison.
12:26Yeah, yeah, that's a...
12:27Yeah.
12:28All right, we're going to go for Muhammad Ali.
12:30Is incorrect.
12:32Oh!
12:33Oh!
12:34This quote is from broadcaster, writer and racial justice campaigner,
12:37the late Great Darkest Howe, taken from his final speech to the jury
12:41at the Mangrove Nine trial in 1971.
12:45Yeah!
12:46Eddie's team, your quote is,
12:47we must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.
12:52Yeah.
12:53Is this from a movie or a movement?
12:55No.
12:56It's too basic to be a movement.
12:57That feels like a movie.
12:58That does feel like a movie.
12:59That feels like someone like me's written it, going,
13:02a black person will say it and it will sound good.
13:04That's what that feels like.
13:05It doesn't feel like a great quote, does it?
13:06Yeah.
13:07It's not one for the history books.
13:08Yeah.
13:09If it's a movie, it could be anything.
13:10It could be Avatar.
13:11Like, that's the problem, yeah.
13:12Yeah, exactly.
13:13What was the film recently with The Woman King?
13:17Because that's all about different tribes coming together
13:20to defeat a bigger purpose.
13:22So I think it would be that.
13:23OK.
13:24So is it a movie or a movement?
13:25Movie.
13:26Movie.
13:27I think it's a movie.
13:28Yes.
13:29It's a movie.
13:30That is correct.
13:31All right.
13:32All right.
13:33Yes, you can.
13:35Yes, you can.
13:36Yes, you can.
13:37That sounded like two people high-fives.
13:39That was great.
13:40We must clap as if we were one single tribe.
13:42So for two bonus points, what movie is it from and who said it?
13:48That was my guess, Viola Davis in The Woman King.
13:51Incorrect.
13:52Oh, Matt!
13:53Rich's theme.
13:54It's going to sound mad to say this, but who's the person that
13:57passed away recently who played Black Panther?
13:59Oh, my goodness.
14:00I can't remember his lovely name.
14:01Chadwick Boseman.
14:02Chadwick Boseman.
14:03And I think it was Black Panther.
14:04It's correct.
14:05Yes!
14:06Yes!
14:07Yes!
14:08Yes!
14:09Yes!
14:10This is a quote taken from T'Challa in Black Panther.
14:14Congratulations.
14:15And the winner of that round is Richard's team!
14:19See you after the break.
14:24Welcome back to Sorry I Didn't Know.
14:39It is time now for Who Am I?
14:43The Garland Sugar!
14:45Hey!
14:46In this round, Eddie and Richard have to play detective by guessing
14:50which famous face is up on the screen.
14:52However, they can only ask their trusty teammates yes or no
14:56questions.
14:57Who's going to be shaft and who's going to get shafted?
15:00Captains, take your places.
15:03OK.
15:04This view is beautiful.
15:17Richard, you're at first.
15:18Who is this?
15:19Is this person a female?
15:23Yes.
15:24Boom, bing, bang.
15:26Is this person in entertainment?
15:31Yes.
15:32Is it TV?
15:36No.
15:37All right.
15:38Eddie.
15:39Entertainment.
15:40Not on TV.
15:41You haven't done well.
15:43Is this female entertainer on the stage?
15:53How do you want to interpret that?
15:55Not the stage.
15:56With a yes or a no, please.
15:58Hang on.
15:59We can do this.
16:00Yeah.
16:01OK.
16:02OK.
16:03OK.
16:04You didn't say how we can say it.
16:06Uh-huh.
16:07Richardson.
16:08I'm very impressed.
16:10OK.
16:11Oh.
16:12Entertainment.
16:15This is like watching the world's worst medium.
16:18Yeah.
16:19Do they use equipment?
16:22No.
16:23Richard.
16:24Stupidness.
16:26Um...
16:27Am I correct in saying this person sings?
16:32Yes.
16:33OK.
16:34Cool.
16:35Better.
16:36Right.
16:37Is this person Jamaican?
16:39Yes, she is.
16:40All right.
16:41So this singer, have they had a hit in the last ten years?
16:46No.
16:47No.
16:48No.
16:49Eddie.
16:50So.
16:51Jamaican.
16:52Whoa, whoa, whoa.
16:53No, I see.
16:54They said no, Richard.
16:55If it's no, it's no.
16:56Except rejection.
16:57That's life.
16:58Do they also act?
16:59Yes.
17:00Yes.
17:01Yes.
17:02Do they have a very well-known movie?
17:03Yes.
17:04Yes.
17:05That's good.
17:06I'm proud of her.
17:07No, I'm just proud of her.
17:09Because, you know, it's a black woman and we don't get those...
17:11This is like explaining any celebrity to my mum.
17:14Do they currently live in Jamaica?
17:16No.
17:17No.
17:18I just...
17:19Oh, Richard.
17:20Richard, this is yours.
17:21She's Jamaican, Richard.
17:22Come on.
17:24Come on.
17:25Come on, Richard.
17:26I don't know if you realise, but all the African questions, we got right.
17:29Yeah, that's all right.
17:31I'm glad you know your history.
17:33Yeah.
17:34Well, you sold us, so we forgot about you.
17:40Whoa, whoa, whoa.
17:41I don't appreciate that.
17:42We sold you.
17:48Okay.
17:49So, you know who I wanted to go with?
17:51I can't remember her name.
17:52She was in The Distinguished Gentleman with Eddie Murphy.
17:54Yeah.
17:55She won an award and she did a speech and she shut it down and all the women were...
17:58Yes, we've seen you read that autobiography.
18:00Quiet.
18:01Please give us an answer.
18:02I want to say...
18:03D...
18:04Oh.
18:05D...
18:06Dying...
18:07Dying Carol?
18:08Not Dying Carol.
18:09No.
18:10Yes, sir.
18:11Richard, we've given you a chance in life.
18:12There's only one Jamaican who has really done movies like that.
18:17Grace Jones.
18:23The actor is singer, songwriter, model and actress, Grace Jones.
18:28A superstar who didn't chase trends.
18:31She set them.
18:32Can I just say, she's not the only Jamaican that's done movies.
18:35To me, she is.
18:36Yeah, cheeky.
18:38Richard, I've never felt more Jamaican.
18:40I've never felt more Jamaican.
18:41I've never felt more Jamaican.
18:42I've never felt more Jamaican.
18:43I've never felt more Jamaican.
18:44I've never felt more Jamaican.
18:45I've never felt more Jamaican.
18:49OK, back to Africa.
18:50Eddie, who is this?
18:52How would I know?
18:53I can't see them.
18:55Is it a male?
18:56Yes.
18:57OK.
18:58Sports?
18:59No.
19:00Yeah.
19:01Your team is vexed.
19:04All right.
19:05Actor?
19:06No.
19:07All right.
19:08Musician?
19:09Yes.
19:10British musician?
19:11Yes.
19:12Over 40?
19:13Yes.
19:14Is this person a rapper?
19:15Yes.
19:16Over 40?
19:22I can't help you, you know, bro.
19:24You're bang out of order.
19:25Yes!
19:26Bang out of order.
19:27I'm not going to lie.
19:28OK, who's an over 40?
19:30Is it Lethal Bizzle?
19:31No.
19:32No.
19:33Richard?
19:34Do they also do Grime?
19:35Yes.
19:36OK.
19:37Is it Wiley?
19:38No.
19:39No.
19:40Is it Skepta?
19:41Yes!
19:46Oh, God.
19:47It is Grime MC, producer and founding member of Boy But I Know,
19:54Joseph Olayeta Ednuga Jr.
19:57AKA Skepta.
19:59Richard, please tell me who this is.
20:02Is it a female?
20:04No.
20:05Rah.
20:06Is this male an actor?
20:07No.
20:08In politics?
20:09No.
20:10Well, actually, you've lost your team, bro.
20:16Is this man in sports?
20:19No.
20:20No.
20:21Is this person in TV?
20:23Yes.
20:24OK.
20:25Is this person a presenter?
20:26Yes.
20:27Yes.
20:28OK.
20:29Is this person over 40?
20:32Yes.
20:33I'm just going to start from the top.
20:35Is it Trevor MacDonald?
20:36Oh!
20:37Oh!
20:38Oh!
20:39Oh!
20:40Oh!
20:41Richard!
20:42Oh!
20:43Oh!
20:44Oh!
20:45And...
20:46That'd be a no.
20:47Oh!
20:48And...
20:49That is the end of the game!
20:51Oh!
20:52Oh!
20:53Oh!
20:54Oh!
20:55Oh!
20:56Oh!
20:57Oh!
20:58Oh, my God!
20:59Oh!
21:00Oh!
21:01Oh, my God!
21:02Oh!
21:03Oh!
21:04Oh!
21:05Oh!
21:06Oh!
21:07Oh!
21:08Oh!
21:09Oh!
21:10This is the Trevor Nelson.
21:18With the Trevor. My regime, that's my regime.
21:20Jussie, can we have one point?
21:22Yeah, come on.
21:23No, man, no, man.
21:24What, saying the wrong human being?
21:27It's a pioneer of black music whose radio sets of slow jams
21:31had a direct correlation to the number of babies born in Britain.
21:34It's Trevor Nelson.
21:36And the winner of that round is Eddie's team.
21:48Well done. Good work.
21:50It's nearly time to say goodbye, but before we go,
21:53let's get silly with some general choppiness.
21:56I'll read out some quickfire questions and the teams can buzz in
21:59when they think they know the answer.
22:01Here we go, feet on buzzers.
22:02Which Trinidadian journalist was knighted for their services
22:05in 1999?
22:07Shazia.
22:08Sir Trevor MacDonald.
22:09Correct.
22:10Oh, I love that.
22:12That's so funny.
22:15That's right, Shazia.
22:17Go, girl.
22:18We're a diva.
22:19Waiting for an opener.
22:20Oh, man.
22:21Name the tile-based games often played by older Caribbean men.
22:25Dominoes.
22:26Correct.
22:27Alicia Dixon was part of which UK garage trio?
22:30Eddie.
22:31Mystique.
22:32Yes.
22:33What are the Benin bronzes made of?
22:35Shazia.
22:36Brass.
22:37Correct.
22:38Which African country's flag includes a sun
22:40that represents the hope and freedom in Africa?
22:42Desiree.
22:43Mali.
22:44Incorrect.
22:45Shazia.
22:46Malawi.
22:47Correct.
22:48Oh, well done.
22:49Which African empire ruled by Mansa Musa
22:52was one of the wealthiest in world history?
22:54Shazia.
22:55Shazia.
22:56Mali.
22:57Correct.
22:58Name the West African dance move that became popular
23:00in the UK in 2012.
23:02Edwin.
23:03Oh, oh, OK.
23:04Azonto.
23:05Correct.
23:06Oh.
23:07Shazia, you're on Jamaica Mastermind, I see.
23:11Yes.
23:12I think I'm black.
23:14I'm finally black.
23:15You are there now.
23:16I'm finally black.
23:17You are.
23:18And at the end of that round, the winner is Richardson.
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23:23Which means the winner of tonight's show is Richard's team.
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23:33That brings us to the end of tonight's show.
23:37Thank you to tonight's guests.
23:39Shazia Mirza.
23:40CHEERING
23:41Ria Hobson.
23:43Team leader Richard Blackwood.
23:46Desiree Burch.
23:48Matt Richardson.
23:51And team leader Edgy Caddy.
23:54CHEERING
23:56Writer and poet Nikki Giovanni said,
24:00Deal with yourself as an individual worthy of respect
24:04and make everyone else deal with you the same way,
24:07especially if you slay.
24:10Good night.
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24:12Whoo!
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