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00:00:00the Ryan Rosillo show is presented by DraftKings excited about this almost an hour with Fred
00:00:06Warner the best linebacker in the NFL rehabbing from injury we're going to ask about that horrific
00:00:11injury that we saw halfway through the season he's also a podcast host the real ones the league make
00:00:17sure you check out that stuff and on YouTube as well so we'll get into the NFC race the AFC race
00:00:23stuff that he's talked with Shanahan about the evolution of the linebacker and we've got a life
00:00:28advice that probably didn't go that well stars are going off rookies are making noise and the action
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00:00:37can get in on all of it I think this league this year with this rookie class it's not just that
00:00:42it's deep and it's exciting and it's all these guys depending on what the role they're you know
00:00:47they're being asked of to accomplish with their different teams what I think is fun is that we
00:00:52probably had four different rookies at some point this year all feel like they're everybody's favorite
00:00:56rookie whether it's VJ earlier the knipple push or you're like do you realize what Cooper flag is
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00:01:43This is something really exciting for the show.
00:02:07As we announced earlier this week, Fred Warner of the San Francisco 49ers,
00:02:11I think the best linebacker in the league.
00:02:13He's going to join the show regularly now throughout the rest of the football season.
00:02:17So we have a bunch of dates on the schedule and we're talking to the four-time All-Pro first team.
00:02:22And rarely do I get to have a co-host.
00:02:25Like, Canelo was a really nice guy, but he was never my favorite quarterback.
00:02:28And I can confidently say my favorite linebacker is now hanging out with us, talking to the ball.
00:02:34So good to see you, man.
00:02:35Yeah, great to see you too, man.
00:02:36And thanks for having me.
00:02:37It's a joy to talk the game, especially with you.
00:02:39So, and yeah, obviously I have a newfound perspective being on the outside, looking in, not being a part of it week to week.
00:02:46But, you know, I still love the game.
00:02:48I still keep up with it.
00:02:49I'm just like the average fan who sits there and yells at their TV and like is in it.
00:02:53So plenty to talk about around the league right now.
00:02:57Let's start though.
00:02:58And maybe we won't have to do this every single week, but how are you doing after the injury?
00:03:03I'm doing great, man.
00:03:04I love where I'm at, truly.
00:03:06You know, I gave an update on my podcast this week and going back to when the injury happened, let's just, I mean, start there.
00:03:14I remember I made a joke.
00:03:16It may have been to Brock Purdy or somebody in the locker room a couple weeks before this happened.
00:03:21And, you know, usually guys will ask you after a game, they're like, man, how'd you come out?
00:03:25And I said something foolishly of, oh, you know, I'm great.
00:03:28I always come out great, right?
00:03:29And that truly was my thought.
00:03:31Like I truly thought I was invincible for a long time, right?
00:03:34Because when you go seven plus seasons, you miss one game because of a flu hamstring injury, which honestly I could have played through that.
00:03:42They just held me back because they didn't want me to hurt it more.
00:03:44But I remember how big a deal that was because I messed my streak up of continuous games in my career.
00:03:50But when you only miss one game through seven years playing middle linebacker and you're making plays, you're doing your thing, you're like, man, I feel like I truly was untouchable.
00:03:58And so, you know, then October 12th happens where we're on the road against Tampa Bay and was feeling so good about that game.
00:04:06I remember early on I made a play on one of the screenplays where there's just you just sometimes you're just in your zone.
00:04:13And like I dropped back for like maybe half a second and I saw Tristan Wurz in the center or somebody already leaving to go block.
00:04:20And I just triggered, even though that was not supposed to be part of that play.
00:04:24I just saw it and I went and blew it up.
00:04:26And then, yeah, man, it was only like what the second or third drive and I'm on a block and they had a downhill lane at me.
00:04:34I tried to spin out of the block and boom.
00:04:36Like it was just just violent hit down below where I'm on the ground now.
00:04:42I look down and my foot's facing the wrong direction and I'm like, oh, my gosh, like that's the type of injury where you see having other guys and you're like, oh, my gosh, like hate that for that guy.
00:04:55Because that's just one of those ones where just look nasty.
00:04:57And it's like that I can never imagine that happening to me and sitting there, being in it, seeing my foot facing the wrong way.
00:05:04I think the thing that was like the feeling wasn't pain.
00:05:08It wasn't like this.
00:05:09Oh, my gosh, it's agonizing pain.
00:05:11It was like a thumping feeling to it.
00:05:13But the thing I remember most like vividly was this is cut this uncomfortable feeling because uncomfortable one, because your foot's in the wrong direction.
00:05:21And but then to like the shrieking that's going on around you of the players, like they're all grabbing their helmets.
00:05:27They're like, oh, oh, oh.
00:05:29And so like and then so you have that first round of it, I kind of I kind of lay down and just I'm holding my leg and waiting for them to get to me.
00:05:37And then there's a second round of shrieking when they show it on the big board.
00:05:40So the whole the whole stadium now and seeing the replay and they're all shrieking.
00:05:44So I'm on the ground.
00:05:45I'm just like, man, just please put this thing back in place.
00:05:47And so our doctor, Dr. McAdams, he's a he's a G, man.
00:05:52He ran out there.
00:05:53He didn't ask any questions.
00:05:54He just popped it back in right right in place.
00:05:57And it was nice and straight.
00:05:59And they put it in the air cast.
00:06:01And, you know, I did have a sense of calmness about me, though, in the moment, you know, even through the chaos.
00:06:06I was like, you know, I remember I journal often.
00:06:10I journal every day.
00:06:11I especially journal before a game.
00:06:13And I remember that night before the game, I was journaling, man, and I was just overcome with like just gratitude in the moment.
00:06:18I don't know why.
00:06:19I just I truly was.
00:06:21I was grateful just for being where I am, where my feet were and where how I was doing that season.
00:06:26And so, you know, when it happened, I was just like, man, everything happens for a reason.
00:06:31God has a plan.
00:06:32And that's what I was telling guys as I'm getting carted off in there.
00:06:35They're feeling sorry for me.
00:06:36And I'm like, bro, it's all good.
00:06:37I'll be good.
00:06:39So, yeah, I say all that to say, man, fast forward now.
00:06:43You know, it's been it feels like the longest eight weeks of my life, you know, since surgery.
00:06:48I had surgery, I think, two days after the injury.
00:06:52So it's been eight weeks and a couple of days.
00:06:54And when I tell you, when they took that cast off a week after surgery, they took that little hard shell off to put it in a boot.
00:07:03And I remember seeing my foot for the first time.
00:07:06And I'm thinking to myself, oh, my gosh, there's no way.
00:07:10Somehow swollen and just how it just looked like a club at the bottom of my leg.
00:07:15And I'm thinking, oh, my gosh, like this is going to be tough.
00:07:19But then you look, you fast forward now and I'm eight weeks removed from surgery.
00:07:23And I'm like, I'm up on my feet.
00:07:26I'm feeling like myself again.
00:07:27And it's so incredible.
00:07:28And God is so amazing.
00:07:29So it's one of those things that once they put it all together and you kind of just get some of that swelling out and start moving it again, it starts feeling a lot better.
00:07:36So, yeah, yeah, I'm feeling great.
00:07:40Did it hurt?
00:07:42Which part?
00:07:42Well, I imagine you're going to say that putting it back hurt way more than the actual injury, but no, I mean, them putting it back, honestly, it wasn't that bad.
00:07:51It just felt like a crunching almost like it's hard to explain, man, but it did.
00:07:56There wasn't like a like a pain to it.
00:07:58It was literally just like a thumping.
00:07:59It was like the thumping of the trauma of it all in the blood, like flowing to that area of like, you know, that's what I remember so vividly was like the feeling of that.
00:08:09Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, you can feel your pulse in your and your foot, you know what I'm saying?
00:08:12So, yeah, it was crazy, man.
00:08:16I was reading a quote from John Lynch, who I think all of us as NFL fans love.
00:08:21And, you know, he's obviously in charge over there.
00:08:22But he said, basically, he was like, I never put anything past Fred that you were swimming.
00:08:26Did you see this video of you?
00:08:28Like, do you do you train in combat sports?
00:08:33Like, do you you do, right?
00:08:35Yeah.
00:08:36So I don't know if you saw this.
00:08:39No, I know exactly what you're talking about.
00:08:40We were actually just joking about in the locker room just a minute ago.
00:08:42They're like, oh, bro, I saw this AI video.
00:08:44You don't mind.
00:08:44I wasn't AI.
00:08:45That was me.
00:08:47All right.
00:08:48So so for the audience, so they can keep up with this here.
00:08:50Yeah, because like at first it's like, all right, he's done for the year.
00:08:53He's not playing again.
00:08:54And then Lynch's thing is like, well, I wouldn't put anything past him.
00:08:56But it wasn't like, you know, I think he's kind of just speaking to your character and your drive.
00:09:00And like every single minute has to be maximized here.
00:09:03And, you know, maybe that's just the way to rehab.
00:09:05Do you have this hope?
00:09:06And then this video from I don't know how long ago surfaces up this last week.
00:09:11And it was like, Fred looks amazing.
00:09:12And I'm thinking, one, there's no way that's him after the ankle.
00:09:17And the moves are so absurd that I can see how some people thought it was AI.
00:09:22So, yeah, there's a lot going on in there.
00:09:25I don't even know if there's necessarily a question because it was really impressive.
00:09:28And of course, after this injury, it was like, that's impossible.
00:09:31There's no one thousand percent.
00:09:32It was one.
00:09:33It was a video that surfaced.
00:09:34I want to say maybe it's been like a couple of years ago, man, because that guy came out when it first surfaced and everybody was saying it was me.
00:09:42And of course, I'm just kind of on the hush, like, aha, like everybody thinks that's me, like, cool, like, let them think that.
00:09:47You know what I'm saying?
00:09:47But then he came out and actually said, like, no, this is me.
00:09:50The actual guy in the video is a real person who does.
00:09:54I think it's like Capoeira or something like that.
00:09:56I think that's how you say it.
00:09:57It's wild.
00:09:58And I'm like, what is he doing?
00:10:00Yeah, I mean, that video was kind of older.
00:10:02So then when it resurfaced again after the ankle, I'm like, yeah, I mean, that's if you, you know, you really put it together.
00:10:07I'm pretty sure that's not even possible.
00:10:10So, yeah, that's that was funny.
00:10:13I want to talk about this team and then we're going to talk about the league and talk about the playoff races and everything else as we're going to do this quite often.
00:10:20And again, just a reminder for everybody.
00:10:21It's a huge Fred Warner fan to check out the Warner house.
00:10:24That is up on YouTube as well.
00:10:26The podcast and look, real ones, real ones, the league.
00:10:32OK, real ones, the league as right.
00:10:34Make sure we get that promo again on the way out.
00:10:38This Niners team's had to deal with a ton of adversity.
00:10:40I mean, there's there's injuries around the league, but then we start going like, OK, who are their five best players?
00:10:45Like how often have the five best players been available on top of everything else?
00:10:49Like having to juggle the quarterback thing.
00:10:51How is it possible that this team is still this competitive and alive in the playoff race?
00:10:55Yeah, man. I mean, it speaks to a ton of things.
00:10:59You go all the way back to just even week one going on the road.
00:11:03I remember how excited I was for that week one matchup because I'm like, bro, if we can come out of Seattle week one, who they finished super hot last year.
00:11:11Like they were a really good team who was returning damn near everybody.
00:11:14Right. And they had added some pieces.
00:11:15They added Sam Donald, who they signed offseason.
00:11:18They drafted well.
00:11:19And so I'm like, if we can go into Seattle, we can beat them and be one to know to start the year on the road and want to know in the division.
00:11:28That's huge.
00:11:28And so we had to scrap for that win in week one where Brock Purdy gets hurt with a with a with a toe injury, which he played through.
00:11:36George Kittle goes down the beginning of the game because of a hamstring.
00:11:39And, you know, the savior of that game was Jake Tungis, who catches a ball in the corner of the end zone over over their their corner.
00:11:45And so, you know, it was like it was such a great start to the season.
00:11:50And then you go, you win a you win a big game on the road against the Saints.
00:11:53And through all of this, I'm seeing Nick Bosa play the best ball he's played.
00:11:57Like he has finishes in both of those games with the strip sack fumble against Seattle.
00:12:02And then again, well, Bryce Huff had it at the very end of the Saints, the series before that.
00:12:07Nick Bosa had one.
00:12:08So he's playing his best ball, you know, and then Mac Jones comes in and helps win us these games.
00:12:15Right. As the you know, as the new QB one while Brock was injured.
00:12:19So, you know, there was so many things happening early in the season where it kind of gets lost where it's like, oh, wait, that did happen.
00:12:26Like where we had to kind of gut out some wins where, oh, yeah, you're supposed to beat the Saints.
00:12:31Well, not necessarily. I mean, early in the season, you never know.
00:12:33Like nobody knows who who is who yet.
00:12:36Yeah, you kind of you have an idea.
00:12:37But those are the games that we we dropped at the beginning of the season before back in 2024,
00:12:43where, you know, we were going against a beat up Rams team where they found a way to beat us.
00:12:47And then we dropped the game to Arizona.
00:12:49Those are the games we were winning at the beginning of this year.
00:12:51And I think the best game, the best win early in the season, obviously, was that Thursday night game against the Rams
00:12:56where everybody didn't give us even a glimmer of a chance to win that game because of the injuries we had sustained.
00:13:03We had just lost Nick.
00:13:05Birdie re-injured his foot against Jacksonville.
00:13:09Georgia still out.
00:13:10Ricky Pearsall hurt his knee.
00:13:13So offensively, we were relying on Kendrick Bourne and Demarcus Robinson.
00:13:19Obviously, Mack Jones was going to be the quarterback again.
00:13:22Defensively, we're missing Nick.
00:13:25Trying to figure out who else we were missing, but a ton of injuries.
00:13:29And, you know, the Rams are hot.
00:13:31But those division games, man, anything could happen.
00:13:34And we came in there with a different type of flunk to us where we're like, man, if we just come in here and we try to just hit them in the mouth,
00:13:42like we got to surprise them and, you know, trying to fight a way to just score more points than they did.
00:13:46And that's what we did.
00:13:48You know, Matthew Stafford still threw for damn near 400 yards that game all in the second half because he's Matthew Stafford.
00:13:55But we held him off and made a huge fourth down stop at the end of the game to win in overtime.
00:13:59So, you know, that just shows like the character of our group, man, the resilience that we've had all season long.
00:14:05And through the adversities, man, just you can't speak enough about Robert Sala and the job that he's done after losing me, losing Nick,
00:14:11and different guys coming in the lineup week in and week out and just keeping the ship steady.
00:14:17You know, there was a time there where we'd win a game, we'd lose a game, win a game, lose a game.
00:14:21But now I think we found that continuity where we're like, man, take this thing one week at a time,
00:14:26give it everything we have to just win one game.
00:14:28We're not looking ahead.
00:14:29We're not looking behind.
00:14:31You know, and that's ultimately built all throughout the offseason.
00:14:35We had a great offseason.
00:14:36Everybody showed up for OTAs, had a great training camp.
00:14:39And so, ultimately, it's a product of a lot of things, but it speaks to the character of the 49ers, I feel like.
00:14:49I want to stay in the Rams thing because that game in particular, like I remember staying with it a little bit later
00:14:54when you pull that one out against LA and then Lynch is on the sidelines at the end.
00:14:59And it was like, okay, this is the kind of game where it's like everybody's counting us out.
00:15:04And maybe it's the familiarity with an opponent there, but it felt like it meant a little something extra contested.
00:15:09Considering just how it felt like the odds are against you in that one.
00:15:14But specific to that matchup, like you had a stretch where you were getting the Rams all the time.
00:15:18They obviously got the rematch this year.
00:15:20But when you're going up against a Stafford, this is something I want to understand, especially with the way you play middle linebacker.
00:15:26Like when you're prepping and you're trying to figure out your game plan defensively.
00:15:31And, you know, Stafford's, I think, in a class of some other guys as well.
00:15:33But like there's some quarterbacks where I'd have to imagine you're going up against and go, okay, this guy's kind of limited in these spots.
00:15:38And these are the places that we have to worry about.
00:15:40He likes to throw here.
00:15:41He doesn't throw here.
00:15:42With Stafford, it feels like it must all be on the table.
00:15:45No, it is.
00:15:46And there truly is such a mutual respect between Stafford and I because we've competed against each other ever since he joined the team in 21.
00:15:56And we've had some great battles, right?
00:15:58Whether it's playoffs in the NFC Championship or obviously all the divisional games that we played against each other.
00:16:04But it is always just such a chess match between each other because like, for example, going into that game on Thursday night, I'm like, okay, it's a new year going against him.
00:16:14And I know in his mind, he's going to be thinking, all right, is Fred going to go about it this way because he played it like this last time?
00:16:22Or is he, does he know I'm thinking that so he's going to do it the same way again?
00:16:25And so I'm thinking that and I'm like, wait, is he thinking that?
00:16:28It's like, bro, it's like seriously just this complete mind trip the entire week getting ready for him.
00:16:32Because I'm like, what is he expecting and what do I need to give him different to kind of switch it up for him?
00:16:38And then it becomes a battle of in-game making adjustments for my own technique because he'll catch on to what I'm doing early in the game.
00:16:44And then he'll try to manipulate things because he's so great at manipulating defenders with his eyes.
00:16:49And since we're so heavy, you know, vision, we're such a vision-based defense where we're taught to look at the quarterback ball out break.
00:16:58Like, if you're looking at him and he's looking this way and you try to break this way, he's throwing it back that way, right?
00:17:04So it's like you kind of have to change up your technique a little bit going against him.
00:17:09But then also he knows you're changing up your technique.
00:17:12So it's like that is constantly that battle between us.
00:17:15And you're right, everything is on the table with him.
00:17:17But that's so unique of a situation compared to other weeks where I'm not thinking about any of that going against any of these other guys.
00:17:23Because one, I'm only playing them once during that year versus Matt.
00:17:28I'm playing against him twice.
00:17:29But then, of course, with how, you know, advanced he is with manipulating defenses and knowing what you're doing.
00:17:36Like, so you have to make sure you're really on it.
00:17:38If you're not, he's going to be on you.
00:17:42So I was watching the Jacksonville mic'd up game on NFL.com, right, in preparation of this, right?
00:17:47So it was fun.
00:17:47It was eight minutes.
00:17:48And you just, I couldn't tell, like, because it was a slow start, you had to talk that much because you knew you were mic'd up.
00:17:54Like, you were trying to stay hyped up as the team.
00:17:57I don't remember the kickoff, but my guess would be that you guys started watching and you were just sitting there going,
00:18:03I don't want to get, I don't want to have this emotional peak where I come out of the field and then I'm just sitting here watching football all the time.
00:18:08So either it was because you were mic'd up or the leader of the defense or for your own, like, let's make sure I stay engaged in this thing emotionally.
00:18:16It felt like that was a lot behind what was going on there.
00:18:19No, I mean, I'm kind of always like that.
00:18:21I wear my emotions on my sleeve in games.
00:18:24I feel like that's just one of my, if anything, that's one of my superpowers, like, to be able to kind of play with emotion while also staying steady, Eddie, throughout a game.
00:18:35I learned early on in my career by playing too emotional.
00:18:38There is, you go through kind of dips within a game and you don't want to do that.
00:18:41You do want to stay steady throughout a game regardless if you're winning or losing.
00:18:44I mean, but I guess mic'd up is a, is a way for, you know, people outside of the game to watch what truly goes on play to play or even, you know, not well, even while you're not on the field on the sideline, the communication that's going on.
00:18:59But man, I just have a lot of fun doing it, man.
00:19:01And it's, it's, I'm, I'm passionate about it.
00:19:04So when you see that on the field, that's, that's truly just how I am.
00:19:07But it also kind of speaks to what you were talking about there with Stafford.
00:19:10And look, I've always thought that, you know, I'm, I'm spoiled by watching Brady being from that part of the country and watching it from the very beginning and knowing just the way he steps into a throw that he has something right.
00:19:24And then knowing how he would want to attack linebackers and that I think most quarterbacks think if they can get any linebacker in coverage, especially on a kind of like seam route.
00:19:33I mean, it's one thing if you get kind of lost and somehow you end up outside, which is not something you would probably want to have happen.
00:19:38But the difference with you is, is that if you're turning and running with somebody, it's not the advantage that the quarterback is used to against linebackers.
00:19:44And that's on top of all the things you do well and how smart of a player you are.
00:19:48That's something you just kind of take away the middle of the field almost as a corner if they want to use, like, I doubt any quarterbacks anymore think they have some advantage in a tight end one-on-one against you.
00:19:57Do you, I assume this is something you're aware of now as, as you play?
00:20:00Well, it's, it's, uh, it's a couple of things.
00:20:03I think, I think when you, uh, there's going to be moments in a young player's career where you're going to be in that matchup one-on-one with a guy.
00:20:12And I think back to my matchup against, uh, CD lamb in the playoffs a couple of years back, it was, uh, I think in 2022, uh, season, we were, we were playing the Cowboys in the, in the divisional round.
00:20:24And I had a one-on-one with him down the middle where I'm lined up in the A gap and I had to go spring my tail off to go get to him.
00:20:31And there's a difference when you're just covering a guy and then you blanket him versus you're covering a guy that balls in the air way down the field, nobody else around.
00:20:39Right. And it's like you in a receiver or you're not usually linebackers in that scenario are super uncomfortable where you're either going to grab the guy, defensive plat pass interference.
00:20:48You're going to flail your arms, not know how to play the ball.
00:20:50And so the guy's still going to catch it on you.
00:20:52So, but I had practiced that rep so many times that prior off season because of a rep I had the year before in 2021, I'm in the same exact scenario down the middle on, uh, the top of tight end versus green Bay and Aaron Rogers just lobbed it up there.
00:21:07And I panicked, I grabbed him pass interference to get an automatic 30 plus game.
00:21:12Um, that was in prime time and they went on to win that game.
00:21:15And I remember just feeling so sick to my stomach.
00:21:17Cause I'm like, I know that I'm an elite player when it comes to middle of the field game.
00:21:21And I'm not going to let that happen again.
00:21:23So when they do try you, you have to make the play because if you don't, then they now quarterback that's on film that quarterbacks now know that you can, regardless of your reputation of this, that, or the other, you have to show and put it on tape that you, you can make plays on that ball.
00:21:36Same thing goes with, uh, making interceptions over the middle of the field last year.
00:21:42Um, Jacoby Brissett against the Patriots thought he had a, a dig route down the middle and I'm a cover to a middle runner.
00:21:49And I fall off the, the middle, the middle scene to then pick the dig off and I go score a touchdown.
00:21:55When they show that clip in other, in other meeting rooms after that game, our quarterback's going to want to throw the dig down the middle of the field.
00:22:02Probably not because Fred Warner's in there somewhere.
00:22:04He's probably gonna pick you off and run into the end zone.
00:22:06So, so like you build this reputation as a player by plays that you make on film that are now going to be circulated around the rest of the teams that you play.
00:22:14So, but at the same time, all it takes is that one guy who's got that, got that, that, that something in his neck where he's like, you know what?
00:22:24I don't care who that is.
00:22:24That's in the middle.
00:22:25I'm going to throw it anyway.
00:22:26And they complete it.
00:22:27Now you just opened it.
00:22:29You opened up the floodgates again because you didn't make that play.
00:22:31Right.
00:22:31So it's like a constant, you have to stay on top of it.
00:22:34But when you were able to make those plays in those, in those big moments, it just deters everybody else to, to even throw that ball.
00:22:41Cause they're just afraid of what might happen.
00:22:42The reason I also love that mic'd up thing too, is that I think the way it was shot, you know, there's so many cameras on a game, but because you were mic'd up, it was shooting it kind of from your perspective.
00:22:51So it may start with a shot on you.
00:22:53And then it was almost giving us what you were looking at because, and look, I don't know what the snap numbers are.
00:23:00The number of times you pass rush, the number of times you drop back in coverage.
00:23:03My guess would be the pass rush.
00:23:05You're not asked to be doing that throughout your career.
00:23:09Um, when you're, when you're like getting side to side though, are you looking, you know, I can figure out on a screen when they want to let the rush come through.
00:23:21Then it's like, okay, it's a screen.
00:23:22It's just, but they don't even want to block these guys.
00:23:24They want to get them upfield.
00:23:25They're going to throw behind them.
00:23:26And that's the whole thing.
00:23:27How do you change?
00:23:28Like, I imagine you have your own scattering ports and some tackles or guards.
00:23:31Like you can't just go, Hey, every time a guard pulls, I know that it's going to be that side.
00:23:35Maybe the odds would be in your favor by following that kind of rule.
00:23:38But then some other places are big on misdirection and trying to do that to you.
00:23:40But it really felt like with that vantage point, I got a sense of you were reading things and your break on the ball directionally is related to like all the prep and the fact that you have that physical ability to go.
00:23:53Okay.
00:23:54As soon as I know foot in the ground and I'm to that side.
00:23:56Like, yeah, I mean, it's, it is a combo of the preparation and then just the God given ability.
00:24:01Cause honestly, I feel like when I came in the league, I sensed that I had this ability to, to process at a higher level than probably most just based off of who based off of just seeing everybody else.
00:24:12Like I picked things up in our defense with, with coach Sala and D'Amico, like to be able to, to have the green dot as a rookie, like I had to pick it up quick and it's not about just picking it up.
00:24:23Anybody can go into a classroom as a player.
00:24:25Where you, they asked you to draw something on the board, you do it to a tee, you go out to a walkthrough, you do it perfectly, but then you go out and lie bullets and have to do it now with everything happening that much quicker.
00:24:37How can you now process that information and then go make a play right in?
00:24:41So, uh, early on, I felt like that was, that's something that kind of came more natural to me.
00:24:46And so of course, over the years, being able to now have all those repetitions playing in the same defensive scheme for eight years straight, you start to see what, how offenses attack your scheme.
00:24:58And so now you pick up on little things of situational football.
00:25:02Um, you know, it just depends.
00:25:05Is it first, first, second, third down, what's it down a distance?
00:25:09And, uh, it's a copycat league.
00:25:11Everybody tries to run the same stuff, different types of ways to try to get you.
00:25:14So, you know, now I'm, I'm at a point where the game's so slow to me.
00:25:18I do see things before they even happen, just depending on the point of the game where the ball's placed on what part of the field, um, first, second, third quarter, fourth quarter.
00:25:27Um, you know, I kind of have a feel for what, what an offensive play caller might be thinking in that moment.
00:25:31And it's not always right, but sometimes you have to take your shot.
00:25:34And that's where you see guys who make those tremendous plays.
00:25:36It's like, oh my gosh, this guy's just unreal.
00:25:38It's like, no, he took a chance where that could have bit him right in the, in the, you know what.
00:25:42But, and it probably has before.
00:25:44I've gotten bit plenty of times, but that one time you hit, then it's like, okay, those are the type of plays that make the differentiators from the good, from the good to the great.
00:25:53You know what I'm saying?
00:25:53So, um, yeah, it's like, it's just about repetition over time and having that feel for the game.
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00:27:13Is there a linebacker that's not on your team that's your favorite to watch on Sundays now as you've been, unfortunately, rehabbing, getting to watch more of these games?
00:27:22Yeah, no, I do watch a lot.
00:27:23I watch a lot of guys around the league, and there's tons of guys who are playing outstanding.
00:27:29You know, guys who've been racking up tackles all around.
00:27:32I mean, Jordan Brooks over in Miami is having a great year.
00:27:36Jack Campbell with the Lions, I think, is probably playing the best out of anybody.
00:27:41Just in terms of everything that he's doing, he seems like a complete player from stopping the run.
00:27:47He's better about his pass drops at this phase in his career, attacking the football as a blitzer, and he's big.
00:27:56He's like 6'5", 250, it seems like.
00:27:58He's a big dude.
00:28:00So he's playing great.
00:28:01Zach Bond coming out last year was fantastic.
00:28:04I loved watching him last year.
00:28:06I know his team's struggling this year.
00:28:08I'm sure he wants to finish strong, but his style of play, loved it.
00:28:14Roquan, of course, has always been up there with me in terms of the All-Pros and Pro Bowls and everything.
00:28:18And, again, another guy who's probably, their team's not having the best of season.
00:28:23But, yeah, man, I mean, there's guys all around.
00:28:25You talk about a guy who probably gets zero talk.
00:28:29Nate Landman over with the L.A. Rams probably has about four or five forced fumbles.
00:28:35And I remember being in that Thursday night game, seeing a guy in the middle who I'd never heard of,
00:28:39and I saw him, like, cock his hand like this and throw one.
00:28:43I'm like, what the heck?
00:28:45Okay, that looked kind of good.
00:28:46Like, he didn't just throw it just to throw it.
00:28:48Like, he had some technique about it.
00:28:49And so then I go and I look, and he had already had, like, two to start the year.
00:28:52And now he's up to, like, four or five.
00:28:53He had one against Jawan Jennings against our game at home.
00:28:56And they re-signed him.
00:28:58And I'm like, okay, like, they obviously saw something in him, too.
00:29:00So old Nate Landman over there balling, too.
00:29:03We'll see how that goes playing against him in the division for years to come.
00:29:07But I'm sure there's other guys out there I'm missing, man.
00:29:11But it's fun to see Ernest Jones with Seattle balling five interceptions on the year.
00:29:17That's unheard of for backers.
00:29:20Yeah, man.
00:29:20Guys are balling.
00:29:22Do you think they would have made you play safety if you came out in the 90s?
00:29:27Man, I think in the 90s, you had to be at least 250 playing in that box.
00:29:35I just think of that Steelers front seven.
00:29:37And granted, the pads have evolved like everything else.
00:29:41But it was, you know, look, it wasn't as pass heavy then.
00:29:45I mean, that was the number one thing.
00:29:46Yeah, they would have had to put an extra two sizes up shoulder pads on me and bulk me up an extra 10 pounds.
00:29:52But I'm feisty.
00:29:53I still scrap it up in there.
00:29:55I'll still get in there and get my nose dirty.
00:29:57You play at what?
00:29:58230?
00:29:59230 up.
00:30:00Yeah.
00:30:01But isn't that kind of the conversation, though, about you coming out?
00:30:05It was like, oh, because like, let me before you answer that, like forever, there was this.
00:30:10I still always kind of laugh about the running back committee that had like a zoom is if there was like this aggrieved party.
00:30:17It's like, hey, they're not paying us.
00:30:18And let's have a zoom and meet on this whole thing.
00:30:20And, you know, I think history would tell you that maybe you don't want to prioritize like you've got to spend this money.
00:30:26You've got to spend it somewhere.
00:30:27You want to spend it on tackles.
00:30:28You've spent on a quarterback, receivers, corners, edge guys and all that stuff.
00:30:31But if there was a defensive side of the ball that feels like it's kind of left out or deprioritized, it's linebacker.
00:30:39And I don't know if that's just because it's like, you know, I remember people being like, are you a three, four or four, three?
00:30:45Like, who cares?
00:30:45Like everyone's basis nickel.
00:30:47Like you have to be almost, you have to almost prioritize what your base pass defense is.
00:30:52And you have to think of like, what are we going to look like on third and long?
00:30:55So it, it almost feels like the position becoming deprioritized also evolve the position away from like, we don't need these, these battering rams to just follow the defensive line and hope they're plugging the right hole.
00:31:10We need guys that are far more athletic, but because you never get the sack numbers because you're just not tasked with that.
00:31:16But you're, you almost become this forgotten group because I think, you know, just looking at sack numbers is so annoying and be like, Hey, this guy's good.
00:31:23And this guy isn't good, but you're just not going to get those opportunities unless you're an edge guy.
00:31:28Yeah.
00:31:28I think when it comes to the conversation of like, you know, level of respect amongst positions, like in terms, let's say defensive player of the year, for example, they're always going to look at the edge rushers because of, they have to look at who impacts the game at the highest level.
00:31:43And it just so happens that, you know, they pay these quarterbacks a lot of money for a reason.
00:31:48Like those guys are the ones that are driving their, what their teams to wins at the end of the day.
00:31:52And so who has the direct impact on a quarterback?
00:31:54And that's going always going to be a guy who is able to sack the quarterback, cause a strip sack fumble, you know, those sorts of things.
00:32:00So for a linebacker, you have to have some sort of something about you where you truly are impacting the games in such a way like that, where you're able to affect the ball on any given play.
00:32:13You're able to affect the quarterback in the way that he's processing the game.
00:32:16So that's how I kind of picture it when I'm out there, how can I affect the game in all these different facets of it?
00:32:25Not just, oh, I'm able to drop back in the past game and defend the middle of the field.
00:32:29And I do that really well.
00:32:30And that's it because now the game has progressed to where it's the league is cyclical, right?
00:32:35Like, yeah, there was a point in time where they got away from the run stoppers at linebacker.
00:32:41I think it was truly when I came in, like they started looking for more linebackers who could cover.
00:32:45But now it's like it's getting back to like, man, no, teams want to run the ball.
00:32:49Like, I think forever in time they wanted to, but you had teams that were throwing, quarterbacks that were throwing for over 4,000 yards.
00:32:55And so you had no choice but to adjust.
00:32:56But now teams do truly want to run the ball, especially this time of the year, because the teams that can play good defense and that can run the ball in the playoffs are usually the teams you're going to see winning the Super Bowl, right?
00:33:06So I think you have to be able to do both.
00:33:09Like, you can't just be a pass covering guy.
00:33:11So I take great pride in ensuring that part of my game up, because when I came in, I wasn't just a run stop.
00:33:17I wasn't the greatest linebacker in the run game.
00:33:22It's something I had to work on.
00:33:24And you can't just like get guys to the ground.
00:33:26You have to be an imposing tackler.
00:33:28You have to knock guys back.
00:33:29You have to be able to shock and shed these big 300 plus pound linemen.
00:33:32And that's just the basic like the basics of it, though, like that's the bare minimum making plays in the run game and being able to cover in the pass game where it starts getting into actual impact.
00:33:44Now making plays on the football who disrupts the football because the greatest indicator of winning and losing games is the turnover battle.
00:33:52So, you know, so who can which team can possess the ball, which team can take the ball away.
00:33:57And as a as a player, I'm like, all right, early in my career, OK, they value if they're valuing this part of the game so much.
00:34:05Like, why wouldn't I try to focus on those things to help make myself more valuable?
00:34:09So that's why I instilled the peanut punch into my game.
00:34:12Right. That's why I started catching 100 balls after practice, because I'm like, if that ball gets in my in my hands,
00:34:19that's that's more valuable than me tackling a guy 10 times down the field.
00:34:23Right. So, you know, you have to affect the game in so many different ways.
00:34:26And that's why, of course, like I would love to blitz more and be more of an effective blitzer.
00:34:30But in our scheme, that's just not what's asked of me. Right.
00:34:32It's just I they need me for other things.
00:34:34And we rely on guys like Nick Bosa to go and affect the passer, like let him do his thing.
00:34:40You know what I'm saying? So I'm not even sure what the actual question was.
00:34:45I think it was just about overall impact of the position, the linebacker position.
00:34:50You have to be able to do it all. And if you can, then there's a there's a, you know,
00:34:55something to be said about the importance of the position, because if you're just run stopping and you're you're back there pass dropping,
00:35:02you're not that's I mean, that's whatever anybody could do that. Right.
00:35:05Yeah. Look, there's going to be a lot of these during the weeks.
00:35:08Sometimes they're going to be straightforward questions.
00:35:10And sometimes they're just going to be talking and wanting you to back off with that because I'm just trying to figure out some of this stuff.
00:35:16Sure. And speaking of like with the NFC, OK, like the NFC is weird because it feels like it's everybody in the teams of this higher seeds are like, OK, so it's this group.
00:35:24So maybe we'll get to that in a second. But if we start with your conference, you looked at that Packers Bears game and the Bears lose that go from the one seed to the seven seed.
00:35:33So they're still in this top four seeds, Rams, Green Bay, Philly, because of the division.
00:35:37Then you get Seattle. Then you get you guys at six. Detroit's not even in it right now at eight and five.
00:35:43Do you have a team out of that group that you look at and go, OK, I don't care about seed.
00:35:48I don't care about record right now. This is the most complete unit in the NFC.
00:35:52Yeah, of course, the 49ers through and through.
00:35:57Great conference. I mean, come on. I what you thought I was going to say at that question.
00:36:01No, I'm just kidding. Yeah, look, I'm always going to I'm always going to have the most, you know, I'm diehard about my own team.
00:36:11Of course, I'm always going to, you know, pump us up in that way.
00:36:13And it's not just false. It's not just false confidence. I'm around the building.
00:36:17I see what goes on. I know we got Chris McCaffrey. We got Trent. We got George Kittle.
00:36:20We got you know, we got all these guys that you need guys when it comes down to making it to the playoffs and winning this thing.
00:36:27So we got guys, you know, of course, people are just going to look at the defense side of the ball and how we don't have, you know, our horses on that side.
00:36:36But it's a scrappy group, a scrappy group.
00:36:39And you have the best of the best at defense coordinator Robert Sala on that side who knows how to scheme scheme things up and put people in position to be at their best.
00:36:47Right. Right. I can't believe I have to take the Niners off the board here.
00:36:51But are you are you right not willing to say, hey, like, would you not want to say the Rams are the best team because you feel like you're betraying the guys?
00:37:00I mean, listen, the Rams, the Rams are damn good.
00:37:03They are. I got a ton of respect for the Rams. I got a ton of respect for Seattle.
00:37:07I think they are fantastic teams and both teams that we've beaten this year.
00:37:10I'll say that as well. You know, those are two teams we have beaten.
00:37:13And, you know, you see the Rams lose, lose a road game to the Panthers.
00:37:18And it's like, oh, man, the Rams, I thought they can't be going on the road losing to the Panthers.
00:37:23Then they go back and they beat up the Cardinals the following week, dropped 40 on their head.
00:37:27And now everybody thinks they're the best thing since last year.
00:37:29So it's just a week to week thing, though.
00:37:31You know, it's like, all right, who's the best this week at this point in the season?
00:37:35So everybody's record is what it is.
00:37:37But there are some other heavy hitters that are that are that are still in there, aside from guys who are in NFC West.
00:37:44You know what I'm saying? So it's a very competitive group in our conference right now.
00:37:50And I'm excited to see it. Seriously.
00:37:53But I see I think that Carolina game speaks exactly what you're talking about.
00:37:56Like, hey, I can tackle a guy 10 guys 10 times down the field.
00:37:59But if I can if I can change the turnover game and that's how you look at Carolina to fourth down conversions,
00:38:05they've got the big staff return over. By the way, there are seven and six team and they seem to play better against the better team.
00:38:10So the Carolina loss is not the same as like, hey, what's wrong with them?
00:38:14But even the best teams in this league have that week.
00:38:18What was that? So the simplest explanation, whenever I see something going on, I'll be like, I immediately look at like turnovers.
00:38:27I'm like, OK, well, they're minus two. Like they have 180 yards.
00:38:30The other team has 40 yards and it's 10 nothing. And it's because of the two turnovers.
00:38:33What happens when it's not the turnover game? What happens?
00:38:36Like, is there ever a team? I don't know if it's been this year or like you're like, hey, no one would ever believe us.
00:38:42But we were in the locker room being like, I can't believe they have this bad record because that team seems way better.
00:38:47Or at least they were against us on a Sunday.
00:38:50Yeah, I mean, it usually a lot of the time it does come over to that turnover battle.
00:38:55You mentioned it in that game versus the Rams with Carolina.
00:38:58But it also has to do with just every single play that happens in a game.
00:39:02I mean, there's so much there's so much to be said about situational football.
00:39:05And I think that's what made the Patriots dynasty so great.
00:39:08And Bill Belichick is from what I hear.
00:39:09You know, I'm obviously was a fan watching the game when that was all going on.
00:39:13But they talk about how meticulous that Bill Belichick was in those team meetings and talking about situational football, whether it was a two minute drill, you know, before the half, two minute drill and a game, you know, third downs, third and shorts versus third and long and all these little things in between first, second downs.
00:39:30Right. So, you know, teams that are maybe younger, you know, if it's a head coach that may be young or a team that's young and they're just not dialed in on those specifics.
00:39:41But they come out there, they're feisty. They hit you in the mouth. They fly to the football.
00:39:46They got playmakers who make plays on the ball in the air and quarterbacks that rip it like, yeah, you come away from that game thinking, God dang, like that team is legit.
00:39:55I don't know why the record looks like that. There's plenty. You see that all the time.
00:39:58But most of the time late in the season like this, if you have a juggernaut versus a team that hasn't had a lot of wins, it's usually because that other team turned the ball over.
00:40:07They couldn't find a way to get it together. Right. So I think that's usually what happens, especially this late in the season.
00:40:15Do you have any kind of read on the AFC?
00:40:20Boy, it's a toss up. It's a huge toss up right now.
00:40:23You know, I think it's it's it's fun. It's a fun time in the AFC right now.
00:40:28I think that's the word to use in the AFC because, of course, before the season, who was penciled in to be at the top of the of the conference?
00:40:35You had the you had the Chiefs, Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, Andy Reid.
00:40:39You had the Ravens who on paper are loaded.
00:40:42Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry, whole defensive side of the ball is loaded.
00:40:46Of course, the Bills, Josh Allen and everything that he's done, MVP, Joe Burrow before the season and the Bengals, they're thinking, OK, they can sure up that defense.
00:40:58You know, they paid both their top receivers. They're ready to sling that thing and get this thing rolling.
00:41:03Those were the guys that, you know, those are the team.
00:41:05Those are four teams that everybody's had penciled in for like the last four seasons. Right.
00:41:08But then, man, this this season with injuries and nobody, I mean, I would have never thought that the Chiefs would be where they're at right now.
00:41:17You're talking about not even making the playoffs with the Chiefs. That's that's crazy to think about, you know,
00:41:22but it is fun to see a team like the New England Patriots with Vrabel bringing them to being at the top of the conference with the with the Broncos.
00:41:30Right. They're neck and neck right now for that one seed.
00:41:32And so to think that the playoffs could run through Foxborough or Denver, like, oh, shoot, like who would have thought that?
00:41:41But there's still things with both teams, both of those teams where you're like, I don't know, like they're both young.
00:41:47They're young teams, like not to say that their coaches are young, but like they got young players.
00:41:50And so, you know, is the moment going to be too big?
00:41:53So it's so it's a it's a fun.
00:41:56It's an interesting time to see.
00:41:59I don't know. I wouldn't I wouldn't know who to pick out of that out of that conference, but it's.
00:42:02And then you talk about the Texans, like I think about the Texans, D'Amico Ryans, their defense is just stingy, like what's their defense doing?
00:42:10Because like this has been going on, but it was easy to overlook because then CJ's out for a couple of games and you're like, I don't know how.
00:42:15And then it's like, hey, man, we're almost through the season and the stats.
00:42:19There's no argument when you look at the stats.
00:42:21So what do you see from the Texas defense?
00:42:23Because like there's part of me that's thinking if this is what the field is going to be like, right, because I had said a couple of weeks ago, this is setting up for the Bills.
00:42:29The Ravens are a mess.
00:42:30Mahomes might be at home.
00:42:32You know, Burrow's not going to be playing, but this is the worst version of the Bills in the last five years.
00:42:37So it sets up better for him.
00:42:38So when I start looking at like, I go, am I just going to go, hey, you know what?
00:42:42Stroud's gotten a little bit better.
00:42:44You know, Nico's an awesome number one.
00:42:45And look at this defense.
00:42:47It's like I might ride that defense all the way through the AFC because I just don't know what to do with the other teams that are improving, just like they are.
00:42:54They say defense wins championships.
00:42:56And like this is that type of defense where you could see if they were to make a run, it's like, oh, my gosh, they made it because their defense is just so dang good.
00:43:03Like, I think you look back at that that primetime game against the Bills where they they sack Josh Allen the most he's ever been sacked in his career.
00:43:10What was like seven or eight times in one game?
00:43:12They do a phenomenal job of stopping the run.
00:43:15I mean, they play our scheme.
00:43:16It's D'Amico brought, obviously, the defense that we ran here and brought it over there.
00:43:20They just got guys who who are running it at a different clip right now.
00:43:23Their DBs are are playing phenomenal, taking the ball away out of the air.
00:43:30Linebackers, my guys, he's all shy here, holding it down in the middle, making plays.
00:43:33And of course, their D line, the edge rushers are two of the best in the game and like just being able to affect the passer.
00:43:40They're phenomenal on third down, phenomenal in the run game.
00:43:42All the things that you want in a top defense, every single time you watch the Texans, you look up and you see the scoreboard and you're like,
00:43:49they literally hold teams under 20 every game, it seemed like.
00:43:52In the fourth quarter, you're looking up, it's like, oh, my gosh, the other team has 10 points again.
00:43:55Like, how are they doing this?
00:43:56And they're just they're just playing stingy ball like they're on it.
00:44:00They're on the details.
00:44:01It's a product of D'Amico Ryans.
00:44:03They're D.C., you know, and they're they're they're playing tough right now.
00:44:07I don't I know team wants to see that defense right now.
00:44:10Yeah, they haven't given up.
00:44:11But I think more than 20, I think one time in the last eight games.
00:44:15Yeah.
00:44:16I mean, that was what to Seattle last seven games.
00:44:18Yeah, Seattle, they gave up 27.
00:44:20Yeah, they did win against Jacksonville, 29.
00:44:23But then every other game, you're just like you said, just under 20 points.
00:44:27Would you rather have Josh Allen headed to the playoffs for that Texans D?
00:44:30I guess it just depends, man.
00:44:35I mean, if you if you have a phenomenal quarterback, but then no defense.
00:44:39I mean, is that that is that really gonna that that reminds me of last year's Joe Burrow like Joe and I'm not trying to, you know, speak down on the Bengals at all.
00:44:51Like this is this is just what it was last year.
00:44:53You see you see Joe Burrow week in and week out throwing for over 300 yards.
00:44:58Jamar Chase, three touchdowns and they're putting up 30, 40 points, but they're still losing every game.
00:45:05And you look up, you're like, well, what the heck?
00:45:07We have a phenomenal quarterback.
00:45:08We have a great duo and trio with T. Higgins.
00:45:11It's like, why aren't we winning?
00:45:12It's because it's complimentary football.
00:45:14You have to play as a team.
00:45:15So, you know, I can't I can't really say which one I'd rather have.
00:45:19You obviously have both.
00:45:21Who would you rather be an open field one on one tackle Lamar or Josh Allen?
00:45:27I've been there both times and I've lost both battles.
00:45:33You know, Lamar is just different, dude.
00:45:35Like he could truly play running back or receiver if he wanted to.
00:45:38Not to say that Josh Allen couldn't go play another position, but Josh is is big and and just really just savvy about him.
00:45:46You know, there's a savvy about him.
00:45:47But Lamar truly runs like a four to, you know, I'm saying he can play receiver if he wanted to.
00:45:52So it's just Lamar's pretty tough in open field.
00:45:56So did Josh, did you was it a it was in the snow?
00:46:00It was in the snow last game last last year and we played him in prime time.
00:46:04And, you know, it was out in open field.
00:46:07He just ran away and I'm trying to get my footing can't get in.
00:46:10I'll dive at him.
00:46:11He looks back at me, one of those.
00:46:12And I'm like, all right.
00:46:13Remember that old Joshie?
00:46:16Yeah, he's he's one of the few guys like with Cam, you know, you go, hey, I wonder if this guy can run it in from the five yard line like this all season long and hold up.
00:46:27You know, I like Jalen Hurst may not be my favorite, but I also think with some of the stuff that they do, it's like physically you kind of need him to take that toll because he's so strong.
00:46:35He's not big like Cam, but he's he's stout, right?
00:46:39He's strong as hell.
00:46:40And so it's it's not necessarily my favorite thing with quarterbacks, because I always feel like one thing I can't stand with younger quarterbacks is if you're super athletic, like they look at one thing and then they go right.
00:46:53They they they have one thing and it's like they freak out.
00:46:55It's like, well, there's seven yards right here and it looks really good.
00:46:58It looks like really good in the beginning of their careers and all this kind of stuff.
00:47:00But then I start thinking like, all right, if you're in the red zone and you keep doing this over and over and over again, you're going to get killed.
00:47:07You know, like Jackson Dart.
00:47:09It's fun.
00:47:10God bless him.
00:47:11Right.
00:47:12It's fun.
00:47:12But like at some point, you have to evolve from this thing.
00:47:18He will.
00:47:18Yeah.
00:47:18I think he just watching from afar.
00:47:20It looks like he made of the right stuff.
00:47:22You'd rather tell the guy, hey, let's let's tone it down than to giddy up.
00:47:26You know what I'm saying?
00:47:26So it seems like he got he got there.
00:47:30He made of the right stuff.
00:47:31He'll figure it out.
00:47:33I want to end on this today, and I'm really excited to do this as we gear up.
00:47:37We'll start looking ahead to games and all that kind of stuff, you know, and our text thread will start heating up a little bit.
00:47:43The Shanahan experience.
00:47:45I've heard the stories.
00:47:47There's too many people that have played quarterback, that coached, that work in the game, that talk about him in almost revered tones.
00:47:54What was something that you think about with him?
00:47:59And I granted his focus on the other side of the football, but I imagine you've been there long enough where there was something that made you realize like that this guy is different than other people.
00:48:10Um, I don't know if there's necessarily a moment that comes to mind.
00:48:15I mean, there are there are things that he has said that have stuck with me to this day.
00:48:19You know, I remember being in in a meeting in a team meeting early on.
00:48:22I think it may have been as early as my rookie year or second season.
00:48:26And he said something as simple as you're either getting better or you're getting worse in this league.
00:48:29You're never staying the same.
00:48:31And he was just like so so direct about it.
00:48:35And I remember hearing him say it and I'm like, I mean, he's right.
00:48:39Like, there's no such thing as like you see players every year.
00:48:42You're like, oh, it seems like that guy's just as good as he was last year.
00:48:44And it's like, no, there's no such thing as just as good as you were last year.
00:48:48You're either a little bit better or you're a little bit worse.
00:48:50And so for me, it was like when I hit that peak of an all pro and a pro bowl and then I didn't get it the next year.
00:48:59This was in 2020.
00:49:00I achieved that in the 2021.
00:49:01I didn't get it.
00:49:02It was it was just such a distinct reminder of like, oh, it's true.
00:49:07Like you're either getting better or you're getting worse.
00:49:09And I made it my thing for from 2021 on.
00:49:12I'm like, I will never miss an all pro.
00:49:14I'll never miss a pro bowl ever again unless you go and snap your ankle in half.
00:49:17But, you know, other than that, it's like I'm going to make sure I'm better than I was a year before.
00:49:21It's like you can't just redo the same things you did in that offseason training the year before.
00:49:25You have to make sure you add things and continue to to evolve in your game.
00:49:30Right. So that was something that stuck with me.
00:49:32But I mean, truly, just all throughout training camp, man, there's so much I learn and throughout the season, of course,
00:49:37but especially in training camp when he's he's going through that film of the practice before every single morning when we get in that team meeting and he's showing things.
00:49:45I mean, there's so much things I've learned about wide receiver play that I probably know more about wide receiver.
00:49:51Well, we expect of all wide receivers in this system than some of our young receivers that are playing for us right now,
00:49:56because I've just heard the same things over and over again throughout the years about just catching the ball, draw, stepping like different things in the run game,
00:50:04being able to block. And when you catch them, like just all these little minute details that are expected of our receivers,
00:50:09like it's tough to come in here as a young receiver and play in our system because of the level of detail that he expects.
00:50:14Right. But I mean, he knows the game in and out, man.
00:50:18He's he's able to connect not only just being an offensive minded coach, but to the defense because he truly understands and and values how important high level defensive play is.
00:50:30So, you know, I have the utmost and total respect for Kyle, man.
00:50:34And he obviously is putting on a masterclass of how to head coach, especially this season, through a lot of the things that we've dealt with.
00:50:40So I'm glad he's my coach.
00:50:44I lied. I have one other thought.
00:50:46How did you feel about BYU not being in the playoff?
00:50:50Tough, man. Tough. Those are my guys.
00:50:52Obviously, still had a great season, but anytime you get blown out by the same team twice in the same season, man,
00:50:57it's going to be hard to plead your case for why you deserve to be in there.
00:51:01Right. So at the same time, like I said, like phenomenal season.
00:51:05And Coach Kalani, best in the game. Love what he does for the team.
00:51:09Obviously, he was a coach for me for two years and is such a player's coach.
00:51:13Love them through and through. They've gotten exponentially better since I've been there.
00:51:17The fact that they're even competing for college playoff spots now is phenomenal as a fan of the game to watch them.
00:51:23But yeah, like I said, like it's just it's just tough given the circumstance.
00:51:26A fair and reasonable answer from an alum.
00:51:29Yeah. So I wasn't I wasn't prepared for that.
00:51:31But that's you. You're just being a character.
00:51:34Like I said, we're going to do this throughout the season.
00:51:36Make sure you check out Real Ones, the league, a podcast hosted by our guy, Fred Warner.
00:51:42He just had Derwin James on the Puka.
00:51:44New cool ones are in over 100,000 views.
00:51:46So he's got a lot of really good stuff going on there and interviewing players that are currently active.
00:51:49I'm sure fired up to talk to Fred, just like we are, man.
00:51:52So are you going to be in the building for the Tennessee game?
00:51:55Of course. Absolutely. Every game.
00:51:59We'll be looking for you. We'll be like, hey, that's our guy.
00:52:01That's right. It's on the ground.
00:52:02We'll get a full Cam Ward scouting report next time we talk.
00:52:05That's right. Sure will.
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00:54:08The son decided to start hanging out, taking up Saruti's spot because it's just Kyle.
00:54:15Saruti's off, which is great because he's doing a trip with his boys.
00:54:22Oh, that's what it was?
00:54:23I was about to say he's probably being like a good dad right now.
00:54:25And it's like not even close.
00:54:26He's with the boys.
00:54:28That's cool.
00:54:29No, he's off for a day.
00:54:32Maybe he's only missing one show or whatever his duties are outside of this.
00:54:36But yeah, I encourage that.
00:54:39I think more people, all the weekends I was like, sorry, guys, can't.
00:54:42You know, week eight AP rankings come out.
00:54:46Not going to get those days back.
00:54:47Heard that one before.
00:54:49Heard that one before.
00:54:50Oh, hey, easy.
00:54:51Easy.
00:54:52It was more traffic.
00:54:53You can tell me, man.
00:54:53It's just us now.
00:54:54You can tell me.
00:54:54What was the problem that whole time?
00:54:57It was a drink.
00:54:58We're sticking with the Tuesday at four o'clock and traffic.
00:55:01There's just two factors like getting to the frolic.
00:55:04You're not a night guy.
00:55:05All right.
00:55:06I am the only time I'm ever doing it is at night.
00:55:08And so for you and I to hang out, we had tons of traffic in between us and we had two entirely different interpretations of what it was to go out.
00:55:17You're right.
00:55:18Yeah.
00:55:18All right.
00:55:19Yeah, we can move on.
00:55:20Let's read an email.
00:55:23Still hurts just as much as the last time.
00:55:25Okay.
00:55:25I hate that I never made it up there for you.
00:55:28And then the one night where I was at Frank and Hanks and I was like, it's on tonight.
00:55:34I just got out of a concert and then I text Kyle.
00:55:36I go, where are you?
00:55:37Is there any way you can be at the frolic?
00:55:38I'll be there in 10 minutes.
00:55:40And I think I got hit up the next day.
00:55:42It was like, dude, I've been asleep for like two hours.
00:55:44I think I was.
00:55:44See?
00:55:45Probably went that day.
00:55:46It really makes you tired.
00:55:47When you go to the frolic early, it's crazy how tired you can get.
00:55:51Learning physics.
00:55:52I was reading something about that in some science journal.
00:55:55How if you drink earlier during the day, somehow you become tired later at night.
00:55:59That's crazy.
00:55:59I'm not sure there's any conclusions yet.
00:56:01But we've got about 30 more emails on what this guy should do about trying to ask his girlfriend to move in with all the different friends.
00:56:10And honestly, a lot of them are really funny.
00:56:12Like sometimes we'll get flooded with something and you're like, this time it was so kudos to you.
00:56:19Job well done.
00:56:21One last crack of the guy leaving his girlfriend to move in the boys.
00:56:23First, my stats.
00:56:24Six foot one, 185, 27 years old.
00:56:26Former D1 baseball player.
00:56:27Not good enough to put a pro baseball player in my bio.
00:56:30I don't know.
00:56:30I don't know how good you have to be, actually.
00:56:32I don't even know you have to play pro baseball to put pro baseball player in your bio.
00:56:37I've seen it a ton.
00:56:37We've covered this before.
00:56:38I even had it in my bio for a long time, which makes less sense than this guy, certainly.
00:56:44Bench325 once on the juice years ago.
00:56:49Honest and strong.
00:56:51Pickup comp.
00:56:52Russell Westbrook of Russell Westbrook thought he was Kyrie Irving.
00:56:56I like that one as well.
00:56:57Solution.
00:56:58The boys, while not living together, should start the same movie all at the exact same time in their remote locations, just like the guy that was too afraid to ask out the girl.
00:57:10What?
00:57:10That's more special than moving in together.
00:57:12Remember the guy on the plane?
00:57:13Yes, yes.
00:57:14Well, no, excuse me.
00:57:15I was talking about my time on the plane.
00:57:16This is the guy that went to the sort of rare heavy metal concert.
00:57:21Yeah, we just had that one.
00:57:21Right, right.
00:57:23Oh, that was for that guy.
00:57:25Okay, I understand.
00:57:26No, no, no, no, no.
00:57:26No, he's combining two different emails together.
00:57:30And the purpose is what, though?
00:57:33What's the purpose?
00:57:34It was kind of a joke.
00:57:35It was kind of like, see, I thought it was funny.
00:57:38You did not.
00:57:38Jokes don't need to be explained that much.
00:57:39That's all I'll say.
00:57:41Yeah, no, that's fair.
00:57:42Maybe it was an audience of one.
00:57:46So let's check in with our fluke encounter guy, because I feel like we got a response.
00:57:58Um, let's see.
00:58:01Uh, yeah.
00:58:02So our guy that did actually start the movies at the exact same time, the girl that he bought
00:58:06the concert ticket with, and then, you know, followed up just nonstop connection.
00:58:10Then we were sort of on his case a little bit for slow playing it and almost putting
00:58:14himself in the friend zone.
00:58:15As hilarious as the life advice was, this is our guy.
00:58:18The night after I sent that email, things took an unexpected turn that I can't really
00:58:22explain.
00:58:22Feels like I got dumped without ever being in a real relationship.
00:58:25Sometimes you never really know.
00:58:27Not a great week.
00:58:28Damn.
00:58:30So he never even got to fire off the, like, should we make a plan?
00:58:33Cause he just, it was all kind of laid out for him.
00:58:36Nice and neat, huh?
00:58:38I'll tell you, more is lost waiting around than not waiting around.
00:58:43Shit, man.
00:58:44Wow.
00:58:44That one hurts.
00:58:45I'm sorry.
00:58:47You're really affected by it.
00:58:48It seems.
00:58:49Well, yeah.
00:58:49I mean, we spent the whole time being like, dude, this is how, this is how it all gets
00:58:53screwed up.
00:58:53If you don't do anything like she's probably waiting.
00:58:55You, you basically promised him that she was waiting.
00:58:58He was fucking it up.
00:58:59And I don't know what, what sort of format this information came in, but it sounds like
00:59:04it was pretty unquestionable for him.
00:59:07So that, that sucks.
00:59:08Don't let it, don't let it stop you in the future.
00:59:11Keep putting up shots.
00:59:13Yeah.
00:59:13Yeah.
00:59:14Maybe he, that's the whole point is that he learned a lesson, um, from that one, but
00:59:18just kind of waiting around.
00:59:19So playing and the whole thing, and then you're just giving it like, or the lesson is sometimes,
00:59:23dude, she's actually not waiting for you to do this.
00:59:26And now it's all screwed up.
00:59:28Yeah.
00:59:28But if she called this off when it wasn't really even a thing, then clearly she was thinking
00:59:33of it as a thing at some point.
00:59:35And that's the way to look at it.
00:59:37They're fickle beasts.
00:59:38Sometimes you never quite know.
00:59:40Yeah.
00:59:41You know, but like, Hey, this seemed like a good sign.
00:59:43And then this was a bad sign.
00:59:45Although you could argue men give out no signs whatsoever.
00:59:48So that is that better?
00:59:49Is that worse?
00:59:50Is it less confusing?
00:59:51Is it's, is it more limited understanding?
00:59:53Who knows?
00:59:54But, uh, I would say it's a massive ego move though.
00:59:57Cause it's happened to me once where I got dumped before anything had even happened.
01:00:01And I was, I almost was like more offended.
01:00:03I wasn't even bummed out that the person didn't want to spend any time with me.
01:00:06It was more like, that's pretty arrogant.
01:00:08Like you think you need to go to this level to explain to me why this isn't going to work
01:00:12out when there's nothing that's actually, we don't have anything on paper here, dude.
01:00:16Yeah.
01:00:16Yeah.
01:00:17I don't even like you.
01:00:18How dare you dump me?
01:00:21Who the fuck do you think you are?
01:00:23Like, I don't even like you.
01:00:25Yeah.
01:00:25All right.
01:00:25That one hurts for my guy.
01:00:26Sorry.
01:00:27Yeah.
01:00:27Um, another thing on dragons that we should have done with Saruti, but the reason why
01:00:31so many people believed in dragons is because they were uncovering dinosaur bones, which
01:00:36makes a lot of sense.
01:00:38Pterodactyls.
01:00:38You've seen any of that coverage?
01:00:41It's dragon 101.
01:00:42So thanks for that, for the anthropologists out there, or just people with tons of common
01:00:47sense.
01:00:47We should have been able to figure that one out.
01:00:48Um, but yeah, we, Saruti took us down the dragon road.
01:00:52He's a big mythical creature guy to begin with.
01:00:55Norseman.
01:00:56What the fuck's going on there?
01:00:57Yeah.
01:00:57The cryptids, the whole thing.
01:01:00All right.
01:01:01Um, is this a trap?
01:01:03Should I care?
01:01:04First time?
01:01:04Long time.
01:01:05Six, six, two 40, 30 years old.
01:01:10Pause on that.
01:01:11Three sets of 10 for two 25 bench and squat.
01:01:14It's good.
01:01:15Three sets of 10 to 25.
01:01:18Even better if it were two 75, if you're two 40, but you know what?
01:01:23Six, six.
01:01:24Yeah.
01:01:24I don't know.
01:01:25A lot of size.
01:01:26Yeah.
01:01:26Six, six.
01:01:27He's like skinny two 40.
01:01:28So who knows?
01:01:29Um, I started separation with my wife in April of this year and split access to a co-owned
01:01:35house.
01:01:35She has a very successful business with potential for seven figure income each year.
01:01:40So she traveled her business for six months while I stayed at the house and she kicked
01:01:43me out to my parents or basement pullout bed whenever she was home for a few days between
01:01:48trips.
01:01:48I chose to get a separate place for six months so I could have my own space.
01:01:52Um, that's not controlled by an estranged wife.
01:01:55I think that was the move.
01:01:59Everyone's living a situation.
01:02:00A lot of challenging times.
01:02:02Who knows what's going on with rent control?
01:02:03Well, the laws out here, um, uh, whatever.
01:02:08I'll just keep moving on main cause.
01:02:09Oh, come on.
01:02:10You had something there.
01:02:10There was something there for you, no?
01:02:12No, but like when I try to rank the living situations that I never wanted was post college
01:02:17with my parents.
01:02:18Boom.
01:02:19Yeah.
01:02:19Um, but I never got married.
01:02:21So nobody even wants to hear from me on this thing, but like, say I were engaged or say
01:02:24that I was married and then going through divorce, but there's so many people that do this.
01:02:28So I'm not necessarily even knocking it.
01:02:29I just be like, where's the cardboard?
01:02:32I'm going to Florida.
01:02:33You know, cause I remember there was a, cause you would be the one who gets kicked out.
01:02:39Right.
01:02:39That's just a rule for some reason.
01:02:41You know, it's like, we did it all together.
01:02:42I used to, I put, poured a bunch of shit into this house and now I just don't have a house
01:02:46because I, you said I shouldn't be here anymore unless you did something really wrong.
01:02:49But it just, it just like the guy, the person saying the guy, the person, uh, who loses
01:02:55the house.
01:02:56That just got to feel kind of unfair unless you're like, this may be totally based on the finances.
01:03:00Like it may have been, Hey, this is a great scenario for me to wrap my head around finances
01:03:04like that.
01:03:05Sorry.
01:03:05Hey, look, I think about it sometimes too.
01:03:07WWI, WWII, NAMM, you know, fucking heart disease.
01:03:14Um, but then, you know, you look at the percentage of male CEOs.
01:03:18So, you know, a lot of this stuff can balance out a little bit.
01:03:19Okay.
01:03:20WNBA salaries, you know, so, you know, we win some, we lose some.
01:03:24Yeah.
01:03:25She initiated, wait a minute.
01:03:26Main cause of the mineral issues is she didn't feel loved and didn't feel respected.
01:03:31And we'll both argue who started and not agree on it.
01:03:33No kids involved.
01:03:34She initiated the separation and said, I should see different people to see if she really
01:03:39is who I think I want.
01:03:41I was devastated.
01:03:42Wow.
01:03:42How about that?
01:03:43Hey, go date other people for a little while, hook up six months, come back.
01:03:45See, um, so I'd be like, can, can I, can I do that right before we, um, but this guy
01:03:52didn't go that route.
01:03:53He was like, I'm devastated.
01:03:54I was devastated, heartbroken, but months later came to realize I was a little too go with
01:03:58the flow and didn't see some red flags.
01:04:00I started to realize is the sadness dissipated.
01:04:02Once you get out of that sadness zone, that's true clarity.
01:04:062020.
01:04:06Yeah.
01:04:07In the flow fighters call it flow state since separation.
01:04:11I've been working fitness, going to therapy to see what my issues are.
01:04:17I, you know what?
01:04:18I'm sorry.
01:04:18I said that about two 75, you don't fucking need that right now.
01:04:21Um, and concentrated on work two 75, three sets of 10, by the way, is massive, massive.
01:04:26It's just, he sent a picture of he and his wife is a good looking guy.
01:04:29He's got a great frame.
01:04:30I don't know what to tell you.
01:04:31You know, I, I'm an evaluator of talent.
01:04:34Even when I'm not, I'm not loaded like her with a business, but I do fine.
01:04:38Um, well, he gave us a salary.
01:04:40I don't think we need to do that, but you know, he's going to pay the bills.
01:04:43Now it's December.
01:04:44I moved to a city and debating, starting the apps to meet people again, to see what I really
01:04:47want.
01:04:48She said I should meet new people to start at the separation, go date, but technically
01:04:52there's no formal divorce.
01:04:53And when I tried to schedule a couple's counseling at the beginning of the month, she was sketchy
01:04:57about telling me her schedule.
01:04:58Is this a trap to start dating again?
01:05:00Or is it fair game?
01:05:01I'm not talking dating just to hook up, but I feel ready to try and figure out what might actually
01:05:06work for me since this clearly isn't.
01:05:09Uh, thanks and congrats on the new pot.
01:05:10Oh, thank you.
01:05:11Um, yeah, look, she's, uh, do you guys are a really cute couple?
01:05:16What can I tell you?
01:05:17So the question is, is this a trap?
01:05:20It sounds like it's about to be a divorce.
01:05:22I don't, I don't know.
01:05:24Right.
01:05:24But is, is the concern here?
01:05:26I feel like I'm just going to warn the emailer and the audience right now.
01:05:29I think I'm going to do a bad job at this one, but is he suggesting that this is a trap
01:05:34because technically they are still married and then she's going to have like a better
01:05:40position to like sue for abandonment or something, uh, or keep her money.
01:05:45Yeah.
01:05:47And I guess if, is that a clause?
01:05:48I don't even know if, is that, if that's a clause in one of those, I didn't quite get
01:05:52one.
01:05:53Um, yeah.
01:05:55Uh, I don't think either of us should be giving advice on this one.
01:05:58It sounds like the stakes are pretty high.
01:06:00Have we ever passed on one before?
01:06:04Maybe, maybe we, maybe we could, maybe we could, I don't know.
01:06:07I don't understand what the trap would be, especially, well, I'll, I'll, my one expertise
01:06:12would be to bring up a little judge Judy, uh, notice here.
01:06:15If they, if you have texts about saying you should go start, start dating.
01:06:19Cause you guys have been separated for a while.
01:06:20It sounds like you guys are either talking on the phone or texting.
01:06:22And if you guys aren't communicating so great, it's probably over text, which means you
01:06:26do have, uh, probably some sort of her, some sort of version of her saying, well, why don't
01:06:31you go out and see what's out there for you?
01:06:33Um, I don't think it's a trap, I think, but I don't know if it's, if your wife's that kind
01:06:39of lady, then maybe it is, but I don't know.
01:06:41I think it'd be okay.
01:06:41I don't know.
01:06:42I mean, I'd like, where's his head at?
01:06:44It's her business and she's made all this money.
01:06:47Look, the guy hasn't mentioned money the entire time.
01:06:49I'm just trying to think like, what is the actual trap?
01:06:52Is it cause you want to get back together?
01:06:54And she's saying, Hey, why don't you go do this thing that most people would not want
01:06:59you to do?
01:06:59And then if you do it, then you're totally screwed.
01:07:01Cause she's like, I can't believe you actually did the thing that I told you to do, but it
01:07:06proves that you didn't love me because you wanted to meet other people, date, and then
01:07:10ultimately hook up, which he's saying first and foremost in the two options that he'd
01:07:14had.
01:07:14So maybe it's not about divorce.
01:07:16Maybe it's not about one lawyer yelling at the other lawyer and saying he did this and
01:07:19she did this and all that stuff.
01:07:20So let's maybe I took us down that road and that's totally unfair and not even accurate about
01:07:24what this is.
01:07:25If it's just about getting back together and he, that, I think that's what this is.
01:07:29And that he's saying, is this a trap?
01:07:32Um, I think it would be a long game.
01:07:34That would be a pretty long game to play.
01:07:38I mean, I have one friend again.
01:07:40I love the polling of one.
01:07:41So I have this one scenario that I can argue.
01:07:43And so that means everybody should listen to it, but he was an older guy.
01:07:46He had been divorced.
01:07:47The woman he was dating had been divorced and she had kids and I'm not choked up about
01:07:54this.
01:07:54I don't know him that well, but you know, she kind of like went at him and was like, look,
01:08:00if you want to try to date younger girls and have these three and six month flings that
01:08:06go nowhere, you know, maybe you'll meet somebody, but if that's what you really want to do, then
01:08:09go ahead and fucking do it.
01:08:10Go ahead and do it.
01:08:11And like, I'll give you some time and then you get it out of your system or you realize
01:08:15that that's what you want.
01:08:17And it worked like a charm.
01:08:18Married kids, whole thing, been together a really long time with a nice little love
01:08:22story worked out.
01:08:23He was smart enough to not take follow her advice, right?
01:08:28Cause yeah, I think that may be where we land on this whole thing is that if you, most
01:08:34people, okay, most people, I would think in this case, if there's any way to salvage this
01:08:41marriage, she actually wouldn't want you to do these things, but he's living in a new
01:08:46city.
01:08:46He's not even living in the house anymore.
01:08:48So I don't, that's what I'm saying.
01:08:49This would be such a long game.
01:08:51And then for her to still be sketchy about him doing the earnest thing.
01:08:54I'm like, Hey, try to get some couples counseling on the books.
01:08:56The fact that she's like not committing to any of that.
01:08:59It just, I just, I can't say, I mean, he's, he's smart enough to know if, if this has
01:09:04been going on long enough where it would be a trap, this would be a, you know, is she
01:09:08actually a crazy person where she would play a long game for like eight months and lay
01:09:12in the weeds for you to, to do this one thing, get on a dating app and, and, and then be
01:09:16like, ah, now, now, now I know you didn't love me.
01:09:19So I don't think it was that.
01:09:21But again, I said, I wanted to pass like four minutes ago.
01:09:24So I still think I wanted to pass.
01:09:26I don't know.
01:09:27I was reading pieces of it again here and I, I can't, I did a bad job.
01:09:33I don't know if it's because I want to be in the water behind me.
01:09:35Resolve ourselves from anything that happens now.
01:09:38Everything with the grain of salt is we don't know what we're talking about.
01:09:41What I'm really looking forward to is the super nasty emails to tell us how bad of a job.
01:09:46Yeah.
01:09:46We did when it's like, all right.
01:09:48All right.
01:09:49Hello.
01:09:49Long time listener.
01:09:50First time caller.
01:09:515-8-1-65 player comp.
01:09:52Steve Novak.
01:09:53A lot of Steve Novak's out there.
01:09:54Basically just stand on the same point line.
01:09:57Understandable.
01:09:58Try to get occasional rebounds, execute good outlet passes.
01:10:01I'm just telling you right now, Steve can catch and reset off the dribble and then get
01:10:04his shot off.
01:10:05It was, it was one of the differentiators for Steve Novak.
01:10:08My wife and I are the first, our first time dog owners are dealing with a question that
01:10:12we've never had to answer before.
01:10:14Our lab mix is almost 13 years old and sadly appears his age has caught up to him.
01:10:18He no longer has control of his bowels.
01:10:19We were routinely finding pee and poop in the morning when we returned home after work,
01:10:23errands, et cetera.
01:10:23When we were home, he has no interest in playing, being around our two younger children
01:10:30in ages one and four, even going on walks, all these things just six months ago he loved
01:10:34were daily activities.
01:10:35He's also either deaf or just doesn't give a shit anymore.
01:10:39Hard to tell which since I can't ask him.
01:10:42He's sometimes skittish or sudden noises, but the other times it looks like he can't hear.
01:10:46He still eats, drinks water, but otherwise is unrecognizable from the dog that's given
01:10:50such joy over the past 13 years.
01:10:52Blood work has all come back with no major issues.
01:10:54Our vet has told us there's really nothing we can do to help his declining condition.
01:10:58And this is what happens when dogs get old.
01:11:00Our question is this, are we horrible dog owners for thinking that euthanization is the
01:11:04best route to take in this situation?
01:11:06While he does not appear to be in physical pain, it's clear he's not enjoying his life
01:11:09and it's not the same dog he was even six months ago.
01:11:12That's crazy that it would fall off.
01:11:13But again, I'm not sure there's plenty of lab owners.
01:11:16Do you know anything about labs?
01:11:19Not that kind of lab.
01:11:20No.
01:11:21What kind of dogs do you have growing up?
01:11:24Mutts.
01:11:25Just like a mix.
01:11:26A lot of mixes.
01:11:27Towards the end, my parents got schnoodles and I was like, I did not think we would be
01:11:33a schnoodle family.
01:11:35And I got to say, I don't really respect this family as much anymore.
01:11:38I just thought of us as like, you know, larger dog people.
01:11:41And this is different.
01:11:42I wasn't prepared to say the word schnoodle on a regular basis either.
01:11:47So, you know, I don't really like that you guys put me in that position.
01:11:49But again, I'm not paying the bills here.
01:11:51I was younger.
01:11:52I think you're established enough as a guy.
01:11:54But yeah, that schnoodle fact may change it for some people.
01:11:58They got a magnet I put in the car with a bone that said, I love my schnoodles.
01:12:01I was like, damn, damn, you guys really leaning into this.
01:12:06Our question, again, we said he doesn't appear to be in any physical pain.
01:12:12We love him and we want him around for as long as possible.
01:12:15We also do not want him to suffer longer than he has to.
01:12:18As I said, my wife and I are first time dog owners and neither of us have had dogs growing
01:12:23up.
01:12:23We're looking for any advice or counsel y'all can provide.
01:12:29Well, I don't want to go to a priest to what he says.
01:12:32Like, and on the one hand, if you're if you said 13 years old, he's raised this dog.
01:12:38He could tell when something's wrong.
01:12:40He probably knew when he swallowed something or, you know, how to stock a sock stuck in
01:12:43his intestines or whatever.
01:12:45He's like, something's wrong.
01:12:46He can tell.
01:12:46And this guy, like he's noticed the difference and you're probably right.
01:12:51And there might not be something in his blood that the vet can legally tell you, like, yeah,
01:12:54you know, we should.
01:12:56He's clearly in a lot of pain because of what these numbers say or whatever.
01:13:00Like, maybe they're just not going to tell you that it's tough.
01:13:03It's sort of like a gut feeling that you as a dog owner for 13 years will know.
01:13:08I think I think the answer is in your heart, buddy.
01:13:10I don't know.
01:13:11I don't.
01:13:12That's tough.
01:13:13I was like, I'm saying, maybe if you have a priest or something, I could tell you if
01:13:16you did a good job with your with your decision making.
01:13:19But I think, you know, on paper, when it says there's nothing really immediately wrong with
01:13:23him, but you just know, like the zest is gone and you wonder what, you know, when enough
01:13:28is enough.
01:13:28I think you probably know the answer.
01:13:30And I don't think any of us would be able to tell you.
01:13:33But yeah, it's a little bit of a gray area.
01:13:36So I think just approaching it, knowing that is this will be better for your conscience.
01:13:40I'm on the Labrador site right now.
01:13:42Shout out to them.
01:13:44And this is pretty detailed and it's not asking me if I need a home equity line.
01:13:49So senior years are targeted nine years old onwards.
01:13:56And it says the average retirement of Labrador is working as gun dogs is 10 years old.
01:14:00So this dog thought he was retired three years ago, although I don't think he mentioned anything
01:14:04about working as a gun dog.
01:14:06If the blood work came back fine, you know, I don't know.
01:14:09It's like, hey, bring him back in.
01:14:10Check and see if he has diabetes, tougher time with UTIs.
01:14:13So it sounds like 13 years is that's a long time on the watch.
01:14:19Yeah.
01:14:21It sounds like you're also I'm if I'm being totally honest, you didn't paint a great picture
01:14:25of owning it right now.
01:14:27It sounds like you want someone else to nudge you in the direction of like, hey, it's okay.
01:14:31And I don't know, you know, I don't want to get I'll be that guy if you want to send me
01:14:35a DM, but it's I don't feel good about it.
01:14:38I know it's tough.
01:14:39I just don't know that I want to be on record as a podcast that told I die.
01:14:43Yeah.
01:14:44So I mean, I dated a girl and I guess it was that kind of like post-college area.
01:14:50It was like a short thing, but she she slowed down a little bit.
01:14:54Now, you know, I just I think I just outgrew the whole thing, you know, outgrew it.
01:14:58But she's still alive.
01:15:02Yeah.
01:15:02She.
01:15:02Yeah.
01:15:03Yes.
01:15:03Yes.
01:15:03Okay.
01:15:04Doing great.
01:15:04I was.
01:15:05But she had a yeah, I was pausing there for at the wrong time.
01:15:08But she had a cat that was going through the incontinence thing.
01:15:12No, it just didn't want to.
01:15:13I just didn't want to be over there ever because you never knew where it was.
01:15:18It was everywhere.
01:15:19Anyway, and cats are different.
01:15:20The dogs, they climb on more places.
01:15:21But like you might be having an eye level shit that you weren't expecting instead of
01:15:25just like stepping in it.
01:15:27So the animal incontinence is really, really tough.
01:15:30And I don't envy what you got going on there.
01:15:35Nope.
01:15:35No one does not listen to that.
01:15:39So, yeah.
01:15:42I feel like we missed Saruti today.
01:15:43I didn't expect that to happen.
01:15:46You didn't expect it to happen?
01:15:47I kind of did.
01:15:47Well, no.
01:15:48I mean, I love having them around, but I thought we could get through one.
01:15:51I mean, these were two heavy ones.
01:15:53Do you read through these and make sure you know what vibe you're putting together?
01:15:58You know?
01:15:58Do you know what?
01:15:59Or are we just like, hey, I'm thinking about, I think a divorce is coming down the
01:16:03pike.
01:16:04Do you think I should talk to other women?
01:16:06And this could be a huge financial change for me.
01:16:09And what should I do about my dying dog?
01:16:11These are.
01:16:11Well, he already moved to another town.
01:16:12So I think he's basically it's happening.
01:16:14But I couldn't tell if he was motivated to salvage it and then not have anything on
01:16:18his record while they're technically married or not.
01:16:21And I don't know if we like think about this poor lab.
01:16:24It doesn't even have any choice.
01:16:25This guy just moved to Salt Lake like, hey, man, good luck.
01:16:28All right.
01:16:29That'll do it for the show today.
01:16:31Thanks to Kyle.
01:16:32Thanks to Fred Warner, who will be joining us, as we said, regularly throughout the show
01:16:36through the football season.
01:16:39And make sure you check out our YouTube page.
01:16:41And thank you for subscribing to the Ryan Russo Show, part of the Barstool Network.
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