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Diagnostic Giant Lumexa Set for Nasdaq Launch
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Thank you so much, Matt. I'm so honored to be here. And what an exciting day for Lumexa Imaging.
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Diagnostic Imaging is a rapidly growing landscape. It's $140 billion TAM with a 4% growth CAGR,
00:13
all driven by advancements in treatment paradigms that require access to advanced
00:18
imaging. And so with our IPO proceeds, we'll have improved cash flow that allows us to seize the
00:25
moment and continue to invest in our current centers, as well as add new facilities to our
00:29
portfolio. What about an AI strategy, Caitlin? Everybody needs one, regardless of what your
00:34
company is, but especially with imaging and radiology. Where are you going moving forward
00:39
with the technology? I completely agree, Danny. AI is important in every part of healthcare,
00:45
but especially radiology. If you ever needed an MRI, you would need to go to a facility that's
00:51
got an expensive machine behind magnetic safe walls that has a tech who's certified to put you into the
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machine. That's hard to disrupt. But AI makes every part of that process for us better. How we get
01:03
more patients, how we approve the efficiencies of our machines and our centers, how we support our
01:09
radiologists in doing the reads, and then how we continue to bring efficiencies to things like
01:13
revenue cycle and our call center. So what are you looking at in terms of disruption? Because this is
01:20
an industry where prices just continue to absolutely soar and specifically, you know, MRI is a place
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that is extremely expensive. I could not agree more. And one of the best parts about Lumexa imaging
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is that the centers we operate are 60% lower cost than a hospital outpatient department. And that is a
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meaningful savings for our patients. And a big reason why we have a patient net promoter score of 91,
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which is remarkable in healthcare and really generally. Caitlin, one of the reasons I was so
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excited to talk to you was there was this study in Europe from over the summer that I have not been
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able to stop thinking about. And it came, it was about doctors detecting colon cancers after colonoscopy
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and looking at the imaging. Basically, 28% was their success rate just on their own doctors. You add an AI,
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the AI assistance bumps it up a little bit. And then they completely take away the AI. And doctors did
02:17
much worse than they were doing before the assistance of AI. In other words, they became
02:22
reliant on it. In this future where we are using this really helpful technology, what does it mean
02:27
for generally de-skilling? Is there a real risk that a medical community becomes over-reliant on AI?
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Gosh, you know, at the end of the day, technology makes us better, whether it is how we do analysis and
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excel, or whether it's how we end up looking at our images. Our sub-specialized radiologists provide
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incredible high-quality care. And our goal is to make it even better for them by continuing to think
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through what are the AI advancements that will drive value to them, and most importantly, our patients.
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I want to ask about policy, Caitlin. We have evolving Medicare rules. No one really knows
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what the Obamacare subsidies are going to look like over the next few years. What kind of reimbursement
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risk or what kind of reimbursement opportunities do you see? Yes. So Lumexa Imaging, our centers are
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the value-oriented center in any market. When we have conversations with payers, they are delighted to
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see us into the market because we're providing the exact same service, the same machines, the same scans,
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often even the same radiologists as the hospitals, just at a 60% lower price point.
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Can you be in the same network? You know, if I go, I'm a Mount Sinai guy. I don't know if that's a
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HIPAA violation, me saying that out loud. I don't think you can violate your own. I like to be in the
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network because my doctor then can see in the same, like, website all of the data. How do you deal with
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that issue? Yes, Matt. We work with our health system partners and are referring physicians to make
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sure they always have access to your images, to your radiology read reports. And we have been blessed
04:04
with eight incredible joint venture health system partners that are also helping us continue to
04:10
think through how do we expand, serve their patients, and integrating with their medical
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records is a huge part of that solution. You know, not too dissimilar, Caitlin. It does feel like a world
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where people are increasingly price sensitive, both on the payer and on the patient side. How do you
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protect margins as that evolves? Absolutely. So when we think about meeting our patients where they are,
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we have incredibly flexible schedules. We will have, within our centers, hours typically seven to
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seven, often even later in the day. We will do weekend shifts. And at the end of the day, when we
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are able to provide more scans to more patients, that drives our financials. Caitlin, what was your
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thought process before going public or while you were going through this? Because a lot of companies
04:54
now choose to stay private longer. You know, IPOs, we're looking at a little bit of a resurgence, but
05:01
it still is a complex issue that you need to deal with with your shareholders. How did this work out
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for you? We had such incredible discussions through the entire IPO process with investors that saw the
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value that Lumexa provides, understood the dynamics in our rapidly growing industry, understood
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the growth opportunities in front of us. And they were really excited to support us. And being public
05:28
allows us to accelerate what we're already really good at.
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