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00:00Dzień dobry, it is Wednesday 10th December, I'm Maeve McMahan and this is Europe Today,
00:21Euronews' daily live fix of European news and analysis.
00:25Coming up today, Europe is a decaying group of nations led by, quote, weak people.
00:31The words of President Donald Trump, speaking to the European Parliament, Europe's Foreign
00:35Chief, Kaya Callas, downplayed the slurs, refusing to get into a, quote, word fight, but the
00:40EU Council President, Antonio Costa, asked the US President to show respect.
00:45For more on this story, I'm joined here in the studio by Euronews' EU Editor, Maria Tadeo.
00:50Good morning, Maria.
00:50Good morning.
00:51Fill us in on this story.
00:52And does President Trump not have a point, though, because EU leaders are weak, they're
00:56never working together, but often alone, defending their own interests?
00:59Well, look, it is clear that the EU does not have the sort of presidential powers that come
01:06with an executive order.
01:07That is not how the European Union works.
01:09Although I should note, in the past week and the sort of political storm around the EU,
01:14diplomats I've spoken with in Brussels say this is not constructive criticism.
01:18It's been a pounding from the US administration.
01:21And just to give everyone up to speed, in the past five days, the US administration, the
01:26president and people adjacent to the US government have said the EU is weak politically, correct.
01:32They are too attached to green policies.
01:35They are risking now civilizational erasure.
01:37There is too much illegal immigration.
01:39We want Europe to stay Europe.
01:40We will cultivate relations with European patriotic parties.
01:44And there is a system within the EU that does not promote freedom of speech.
01:49Again, for some of the diplomats I spoke with, they say this is not criticism, it's political
01:54interference.
01:55Nonetheless, President Trump yesterday repeated they do believe in the US that Europe is not
02:00going in the right direction for the Europeans.
02:02Of course, this is language that has rattled them.
02:04Let's take a look.
02:04Look, Europe has to be very careful.
02:11We want to keep Europe Europe.
02:15Europe is going in some bad directions.
02:18It's very bad, very bad for the people.
02:21We don't want Europe to change so much.
02:23They're going in some very bad direction.
02:25Parts of the document the US published are understandable, but some of it is unacceptable for us from the
02:32European point of view, that the Americans want to save democracy in Europe now.
02:36I don't see any need for that.
02:38If it needed to be saved, we would manage that alone.
02:43And that is, of course, the German Chancellor and Maeve.
02:47Just to be very clear in the US national security strategy, they do say that the Europeans are an ally to the US.
02:55But the question now in the EU is whether America's Trump, do they really want to work with the European institution?
03:02And is there even a plan to perhaps weaken the EU from within?
03:06I'm not saying there is one, but that is clearly a question that is permeating in Brussels and has come up this week.
03:12And it's great to have the ambassador, of course, to debrief.
03:14Indeed, Maria, today our EU news editor, thank you so much for that.
03:18And as she said there, coming up, we will be joined, in fact, by the US ambassador to the European Union,
03:22Ambassador Andrew Puzder, a former business executive and well-known media commentator.
03:27This year, Andrew Puzder was appointed the US ambassador to the European Union.
03:32So he is now literally the eyes and the ears of President Trump right here in Brussels.
03:39So, Ambassador Puzder, thank you so much for joining us.
03:41What a day to have you with us here on Europe Today.
03:43There's a lot to digest.
03:45But first, let's just start, perhaps, with President Trump's attempts to end the war in Ukraine.
03:50Is President Trump trying to push President Zelensky into signing a deal before Christmas?
03:55You know, I'm not involved in the negotiations on Ukraine, and I'm reluctant to comment.
04:01We've got Ambassador Witkoff, we've got Secretary Rubio, Jared Kushner, people that are involved.
04:07And anything I might say, you know, since I'm not involved, might damage those negotiations.
04:12But the fact that you're based in Brussels, you do understand how the Europeans work.
04:16So why do you think the Russians are getting such soft treatment?
04:19Again, any comments I made in that respect could impact the negotiations.
04:24And it would be just, look, we all want peace in Ukraine.
04:29We all want the killing to stop.
04:31And I don't want to make a comment that might damage the negotiations that could lead to that peace.
04:35And since I'm not involved, it would be easy for me to make a mistake and say the wrong thing.
04:39Indeed, and especially on live TV, you don't want to make that mistake.
04:42But perhaps you could talk to us about how the U.S. administration feel about the frozen Russian acids.
04:47Is the U.S. on board with this?
04:48Again, the United States hasn't taken a position on that.
04:51That's a European event, a European solution.
04:57And the European, I'm not sure that all the Europeans are granted.
04:59I know how the Belgians feel.
05:01I know how the rest of Europe feels.
05:02So that's not something, again, that's not something we're going to get into the middle of.
05:06That's a European decision.
05:08But there are reports that the U.S. administration have been calling bilaterally EU capitals, telling them not to sign up to this deal.
05:14Yeah, I've heard those reports.
05:16I don't know anybody who's done that.
05:17And I haven't spoken to anybody at the EU who's gotten that kind of contact.
05:21So, again, that's not, this is just not, I'm happy to talk to you about the economy or any areas you want to talk about or President Trump's comments.
05:28But while there's negotiations going on to end this horrific, this horrific war in Ukraine, it just would be irresponsible of me to comment because I'm just not involved in those negotiations.
05:40You're not involved.
05:41But please, I'm sure our listeners would love you to comment on President Trump's plans and the various comments we've heard across the last couple of days on the national security strategy.
05:50Is this a campaign, do you think, Ambassador, to dismantle the European Union?
05:53Well, you know, it's interesting, the coverage of the national security strategy, when I read it, I thought, my, this thing's going to be terrible.
06:01I went and read it, and it's really not that bad.
06:04The section on Europe is titled, A Proposal for European Greatness.
06:08It's not called, We Don't Like Europe, We Want Europe to Go Away.
06:11And if you read down a little bit, it says that Europe is, I think I'm going to get the quote right, Europe is strategically and culturally vital to the United States.
06:24You read a little further, it says our transatlantic trade relationship, which is the largest trade relationship in the world, is a pillar of the global economy and of American prosperity.
06:36So I don't, I don't, I did not read it at all as an attempt to dissolve the European Union.
06:41But does it suggest going back to nation states?
06:43Well, I think the, the thrust of it is that you do have 27 sovereign states.
06:50So it's not going back to sovereign states.
06:52You have 27 sovereign states.
06:53The question is, how much of their sovereignty did they give up to be part of an economic union?
06:59Did they give up the sovereignty to determine who comes into or out of their countries?
07:03Did they give up the sovereignty on cultural issues that might be different in Eastern Europe than they are in Western Europe?
07:10So I think-
07:10When it says Europe's weak and decaying, who's weak?
07:12Who is President Trump referring to?
07:14Well, if you, if you look at the European Union overall, you'll see the GDP, the nominal GDP, and it was, was ahead of the United States, the European Union in 2011.
07:25So that's 14 years ago.
07:26For me, that doesn't seem so long ago.
07:28That's recent memory.
07:29Today, if you include the United Kingdom, it's about 20% below that the IMF is projecting for this year.
07:36If you take the United Kingdom out, it's almost a third below.
07:39This is a huge drop.
07:41And even more impressively, I think for citizens in Europe, for the people of Europe, GDP per capita, in other words, economic growth in a country per person.
07:50GDP per capita in Germany, the industrial giant of Europe, is now below that of the state of West Virginia in the United, the 49th worst state.
08:00I mean, Europeans know that as well.
08:01I mean, they don't really need this document to state it.
08:03But just this idea of what is Europe-
08:04Well, but you asked, what's the weakness?
08:07And then if you look at Spain, Italy, France, the French economy, and you look at the EU overall, and I'll include the UK in this, too, just for fairness, they're below the state of Mississippi, which is the 50th lowest GDP per capita U.S. state.
08:21So when you ask, where's the weakness?
08:23Well, this is an economic weakness.
08:25So it's not pointing at a particular person.
08:28And just this idea of Europe staying Europe, what exactly does that mean?
08:31Does that mean a white Christian Europe?
08:32No, I think it means, and I would say this for the United States, too, when people are immigrating into the United States, if you're not going to contribute economically, if you don't want to become a part of the society, if in fact you reject the basic tenets of that society, it's probably people we don't want.
08:54Those are the kind of people that come in, and you see an increase in the crime rate.
08:58You see a decrease in the kind of cultural values people have.
09:00I think there are even European cities where the police now are afraid to go in or don't go into certain sections.
09:05They're governed by different legal standards.
09:08I think what he's saying is that we don't want to see Europe lose its identity as Europe because we...
09:14And, Ambassador, we're going to have to leave it there.
09:16But do come back to us, please, again, sit here on Europe Today, because we didn't get to talking about Elon Musk, because, of course, he's furious about the €120 million fine that Brussels sent him last week for failing to meet transparency rules.
09:28Our reporter, Jakob Janus, has been trying to get inside his head of the richest man of the world.
09:33Take a look.
09:36Trying to understand Elon is like trying to assemble IKEA furniture in the dark.
09:42Except we have no instructions, and the pieces keep changing shape.
09:46We Europeans often dismiss him as a barbaric cowboy.
09:50We pride ourselves on being the educated adults in the room.
09:55Well, if we are so clever, let's prove it.
09:58And for that, let's use Carl Jung to talk about Elon.
10:02The Swiss psychologist defines archetypes.
10:05But there is a catch.
10:06For every positive face, there is a shadow.
10:09First, the creator.
10:12He is the visionary building rockets that one day will take him to Mars.
10:17But his shadow is the anarchist.
10:20He treats SpaceX explosions as data, and he is willing to burn billions and occasionally break laws, just to see if his toys work.
10:30Second, the ruler.
10:31If money is the measurement of success, he's the most profitable CEO in the world, who just secured one trillion dollar deal at Tesla to keep him.
10:43But his shadow is the tyrant.
10:46When he took over Twitter, he didn't just restructure it.
10:50He decapitated it.
10:51He fired 80% of the stuff in weeks, demanding hardcore loyalty just to prove he holds the crown.
10:59And third, the jester.
11:02The internet troll posting memes that people love art.
11:06But here, the shadow is the nihilist.
11:09The cruel trickster who retweets posts comparing the EU to the Fourth Reich.
11:14But not for the lols.
11:15He simply believes nothing matters anymore.
11:19Elon is a spectacle we cannot look away from.
11:23Maybe he's just seeking validation from his favorite former reality TV star.
11:27But that, on the other side, would be Freud.
11:31So, Mr. Musk, which Elon are you today?
11:38Jakob Yanis reporting for us there.
11:40But now going back to the ongoing war in Ukraine.
11:43As you're hearing a lot on your news lately, Europe is grappling with financing Ukraine in the long term.
11:48But, meanwhile, NATO countries are already working with private tech on how to best resolve the struggles on the front line using drones instead of manpower.
11:57For more on this story, we can cross overnight to our NATO correspondent, Shona Murray, who's actually in Rihimaki in Finland for us.
12:03Good morning, Shona.
12:03Thank you so much for joining us this morning.
12:06Just tell us, where are you exactly and what have you been finding out?
12:09So, this is Rihimaki, a small garrison town about two hours from the Russian border.
12:16As we know, Finland has the largest border with Russia inside NATO, 1,350 kilometers.
12:22So, this town sees itself really as a future innovation hub for the defense industry.
12:27As I said, it's a garrison town.
12:28I'm standing outside Sakho, which is a rifle manufacturer.
12:31It's been here since 1921.
12:32But, it's very much expanding.
12:34I spoke to the mayor here yesterday, who said they've given away a whole street to allow that expansion.
12:40So, what we saw yesterday was a collaboration between the public and private sector.
12:46And, of course, a demonstration of NATO's eastern flank deterrence line.
12:50So, as you said, there are drones, unmanned ground vehicles, which are used to transport wounded soldiers from the battlefield, also to transport ammunition.
12:59These are very important on the front line of Ukraine, but also vitally important to protect Europe's eastern flank from a lot of the incursions we've seen over the last few months, whether it's hybrid war or airspace incursions.
13:11Maeve?
13:12And, I believe you spoke to a Ukrainian soldier, Shona, who's just left the front line.
13:16How is he doing and what did he say?
13:20Yes, what was interesting about yesterday is not just soldiers that were there, Ukrainian soldiers who were in Kherson,
13:25but also private sector, defence industry, which have also spent the last few weeks in Kherson,
13:31because they're obviously trying out all of their new drones and their new weapons on the battlefield.
13:36So, I caught up with Alexander Vojtko, and I asked him about the situation in terms of development when it comes to innovation,
13:42and also their counterpart, the Russians.
13:45Russians are moving now at many points of front line, but we are killing many of them, too.
13:56We rely mostly on drones, so-called drones wall.
14:02We use all types of drones, small kamikaze, FPV drones, bombers, fixed ISR wings, and middle strike wings, kamikaze, all type of drones.
14:16Alexander Vojtko, and, of course, our Shona Murray there, reporting for us live from Finland.
14:21So, thank you so much to her for that.
14:23And, thank you so much for tuning in to another edition of Europe Today.
14:26For more news and analysis, you can check out yournews.com.
14:29But, thank you so much for watching.
14:31Take care, and see you very soon here on Euronews.
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