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00:27Manning! Manning!
00:57Yeah, it's the most me I was in my early 20s when I was sort of like relentlessly pursuing my career.
01:12Hopefully my relationships weren't as compromised as his are, but somewhere in the middle.
01:18I think as you get older, not just in life, but in career, you're able to kind of block stuff out more.
01:23But, yeah, self-doubt. The good thing about having actual criticism and actual people that root against you is you kind of realize,
01:29oh, I really have to be on my side, you know? And I don't think it has to come with a big career.
01:34I think you could be at home feeling like that as far as, yeah, if you have one person who's rooting against you,
01:39that's more reason to be rooting for yourself.
01:41Great question. You know, yeah, absolutely. This has been thought about for centuries by many wise men, and it really has.
01:49You know, as I said, or as I've quoted, you can get lost in the sauce, but without sauce, you're lost, you know?
02:02That's a funny thing to say, but it's really true, too. You know, it's a tremendous piece of work. This is a great movie.
02:07Well, I just felt like it was such a, it was sort of, I think it was the sum of the parts, really. I mean, it was such an amazing group of people.
02:19Josh really tempted me back once I got to know him and his work. And then, of course, you know, such an A-plus group of actors.
02:29And the script was so crazy and, and I don't know, it's just, it came at a time in life where I felt like I was ready to try something different again.
02:41And, and I'm so glad I did because it's just been, I mean, making the film was an incredibly rewarding experience.
02:49Well, exactly. I think what, what I really did like about their story, too, is that their age difference wasn't sort of a huge story point.
02:58It's, they happen to be very different ages, but drawn to each other for very different reasons.
03:03And it wasn't sort of like a fetishized thing that she was older, you know, they each really wanted something from one another.
03:10And yes, it was a, it's a transaction, but I kind of liked that the age thing is never really addressed.
03:19You know, he, yes, because he's like incredibly alive and encourages bravery and freedom and like, you know, not a lot of blocking.
03:34And it was like, he has a very interesting and specific way of working and he really knows what he wants, but he's also open to seeing what transpires.
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