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00:11Your dad, were you in a necklace?
00:13It's my dad's fingerprint.
00:15Oh, is it? Yeah.
00:16Oh, that's such a lovely thing.
00:19When did you get that done?
00:21I asked a few more directors to get a print of his fingerprint.
00:30Yeah.
00:32I like.
00:33Yeah, I never take it off.
00:37Some people have described him as a gangster.
00:39How do you do about that term?
00:47It's hard for me to say on that
00:49because it's quite hard to think of your dad like that.
00:57As a gangster?
00:58Yeah.
00:59And I don't think we do.
01:09My dad's house was secluded.
01:13When I was told he had been murdered, I'd actually speak to him a couple of hours before.
01:29He did go to prison.
01:33He did his time.
01:35Now, he was saying, well, that was, you know, it's maybe time for him to have a bit more of a relaxed life.
01:46Did your dad ever get death rats?
01:47Did your dad ever get death rats?
01:48Did your dad ever get death rats?
01:50Not that I was aware of, no.
01:51He never acted like he was in fear of his life.
02:04All I kept thinking is, why?
02:05Why somebody would even want to kill my dad?
02:06Why somebody would even want to kill my dad?
02:20Why somebody would want to kill my dad?
02:21Why?
02:22Why?
02:23Why?
02:24Why?
02:25Why?
02:26Why?
02:27Why?
02:28Why?
02:29Why?
02:31Why?
02:32Why?
02:33Why?
02:34Why?
02:35Why?
02:36It's murder and why.
02:38You can run for a long time, run for a long time, run for a long time.
02:47One of these days gonna cut you down, one of these days gonna cut you down.
03:04Come, stay off the ropes, stay off the ropes.
03:08Whoa, you're wide open too, wide open there.
03:11John Palmer did four years for timeshare fraud.
03:16While Palmer was inside, his former right hand man, Mo Durba, moved in on his territory
03:22and ran it like his own empire.
03:27When Palmer got out, his assets were frozen, the Spanish police were sniffing about
03:33and rival gangs were coming in from all directions.
03:36So he did what any old school fighter would do.
03:39He tucked in his chin, he slipped back to Essex and he took cover.
03:44But for Palmer, this wasn't the kind of game you can just retire from.
03:51Because in his line of work, there's always the risk that someone's gonna come after you with a sucker punch.
03:59And when it finally came to the end, there were actually two killers that took him down.
04:03One with enough money to buy a contract hit, the other came with a silenced pistol.
04:08I've been investigating the murder of John Palmer now for a year.
04:23There's two distinct theories we're looking at at the moment.
04:40The first one is Briggs Mack.
04:49Mickey McAvoy, revenge.
04:52McAvoy was being screwed by people on the outside.
04:56He was violent and he may have had a motive to kill John Palmer.
04:59And the second theory is that Palmer was killed by the Russian Mafia.
05:04Do you know how much debt Palmer was in?
05:07A million pounds a week, interest it is.
05:09That's interest.
05:10That's just interest.
05:11That's just interest.
05:12Wow.
05:13They put out the hit on John Palmer and assassins carried out the hit.
05:18Over the years, police have chased hundreds of leads without charging anyone.
05:23Rumours and speculation are rife in the press and social media, but there must be more to uncover.
05:30At his old Bailey trial 14 years ago, gangster John Palmer wore a bulletproof vest.
05:37In June, alone and vulnerable in the garden of his Essex home, he was shot dead.
05:42John Palmer's underworld life meant he was a potential target for many years and he knew it.
05:49The bulletproof vest, this secluded home.
05:53What we know about Palmer's life from the outside at this stage is that he'd made it look like he was in retirement from his criminal activities.
06:02In reality, he'd withdrawn into a fortress.
06:06The house was wired with CCTV covering every angle and he had four guard dogs on a daily rotation.
06:14So you've got to ask what kind of assassin could breach this level of security, shoot John six times and vanish without a trace.
06:22So I'm going to meet Philip Boyce, a firearms expert who's 40 years experience.
06:33We're going to go to the scene and I'm hoping that Phil can interpret the scene and identify the methodology used by the killer.
06:42Morning Philip. Morning.
06:49You okay? Yeah, nice to see you again.
06:51And you, and you.
06:59This is obviously the public footpath.
07:02This is the, that's the house in the foreground.
07:04This is the wooden fence that's the circumference runs around the circumference of the entire garden.
07:10Is that the original height of the fence?
07:12Yes. Yeah.
07:14Quite, quite a big area of property as well.
07:17Yeah, it's massive.
07:19So the path goes off to the, slightly to the left and there's like a dip down and it's over on the, that part of the fence where they say there was a hole.
07:26That the shooter had kept observation on John.
07:32So this is the, effectively the scene.
07:47You've got John Palmer on his lawn tractor, backwards and forwards to an area over here.
07:51Yeah.
07:52Which is where he's burning documents.
07:53Yeah.
07:54Which is where he's burning documents.
07:55The shooter is hiding behind the fence.
08:22fence, no CCTV in this area, the shooter goes over the fence, shoots John three
08:39times in the front, three times in the back, and then he's found about 15 metres
08:48away. The gun, there's no cartridges anywhere, nobody hears the shots. At the time they didn't
09:02know what happened to him, obviously many many days later they find six bullet wounds
09:07in him, and according to the police it was a 32 caliber silenced weapon. What's your
09:15views on that? To give you an idea of the range of calibers, you can have something
09:21like a 2.2 caliber. Right, but that's quite small, you wouldn't think that would kill someone?
09:26That will travel for maybe a mile and a half from a rifle or a pistol. Right.
09:333.2 caliber, which is the one we're talking about, it's developing somewhere in the region
09:40of 190-200 foot-pounds. So it's got good injury stroke lethal power. And also the bullets recovered
09:51were from a smoothbore barrel, which may indicate the weapon used was a silenced revolver.
09:59I have two guns here, and this is a typical size of a 3.2 revolver. And why is it that you
10:14think the police considered it was a revolver that was used in the murder?
10:18Well again, really to demonstrate it, this is a sound moderator. Right. And inside the
10:26sound moderator is a series of metal baffles. And whenever it's fitted to a gun, the bullet
10:34sometimes hits those baffles. And there must have been some marks on the bullet to suggest
10:39that it was fired through a silencer or a sound moderator.
10:42Exploration marks on the actual bullet itself? Yes.
10:45So the likelihood is the gun that was used to kill John Palmer had been adapted so that
10:50it would have the silencer just screw on the top? I would suspect so.
10:55So with this, the bullets would still be loaded, but literally you've got to pull back the trigger
11:01mechanism each time to fire. Yeah. And you've got six shots and you fire them all.
11:07And you fire three in the front, three in the back with a silencer. No forensics. Determined.
11:14Professional assassin? Possibly, yes. The whole scenario shows pre-planning and knowledge
11:21of firearms at least. I wouldn't have expected someone to have carried this shooting out unless
11:28they were a professional assassin. Right.
11:32So we know that the shooter managed to kill John in an area of the garden where there was
11:54no CCTV. And we know that he used a weapon that was very quiet. And we know also they've been
12:03carrying out surveillance, reconnaissance on John and identified his routine. So they picked the right moment to kill John Palmer.
12:13So it looks like a professional hitman. There's not many gangs that use professional assassins. We know Russian Mafia are one, but I found no hard evidence to back this theory.
12:31They've received a lead from a source in Ireland about an organised crime gang in Dublin with very close ties to John Palmer.
12:40They use professional hitmen to carry out their dirty work. That appears to me to be a very good lead to follow.
12:47I've known about John Palmer for years. I certainly knew about his career and, of course, the timeshares in Tenerife.
13:10So as a crime journalist, when one of the wealthiest criminals in the UK is killed, you know that there is a really big story behind it.
13:25I remember when I first heard that John Palmer had been murdered because I was starting to make connections between Palmer,
13:34some of his associates, and people I was writing about, the biggest organised crime gang in this country, the Kinahan Organisation.
13:43Two family groupings from Dublin who had joined together, the Hutch side and the Kinahan side.
13:52They've been described as a murderous, drug-dealing cartel, and they migrated to Spain and the Costa del Sol.
14:00And John Palmer, of course, had his own businesses down in the Costa del Sol.
14:06The likes of Palmer, the likes of the Kinahan's, they all know one another.
14:12And they all are in business, at some point together, in one way or another.
14:162016, there was a boxing weigh-in in the Regency Hotel.
14:30This feud had broken out within the Kinahan Organisation.
14:34And the leadership of the Kinahan Organisation were going to be there.
14:37The leadership of the Kinahan Organisation were going to be there.
14:39People start running.
14:55And as they run out the front of the hotel, members of what looks like the Armed Response Unit start making their way into the hotel.
15:10Most people believed they were the police, but they were actually the Hutch organised crime group, armed with Kalashnikov rifles, hunting for the head of the Kinahan organised crime group.
15:25I got a phone call from the photographer I was working with, and he had captured an image of what he believed was a gunman and a woman fleeing from the scene.
15:38When he focused in a bit further, he could see that it was a gunman, and another gunman in drag.
15:51It almost looks like something from a scene from Reservoir Dogs.
15:57That was the moment that this Hutch Kinahan feud really exploded.
16:01Michael Barr was shot dead last month by two gunmen who burst into the Sunset House pub in the Summer Hill area.
16:08Forensic specialists today examining the scene of last night's gangland murder in Dublin.
16:13This gang feud turned parts of this city, the inner city here in Dublin, into an absolute war zone.
16:2018 young men, dead.
16:2218 young men, dead.
16:27In the aftermath of this, something very unusual happened.
16:32Out of the blue, this weird sort of anonymous Twitter site appeared, called the Whistleblower.
16:39This site was tagging journalists like myself, crime journalists, trying to alert you, trying to get your attention.
16:45And it starts giving information about cartel murders, in-house murders.
16:55I'm communicating with people I know, high open the guards, and they're telling me, this is fucking accurate.
17:03It was investigated by the police here, and it was discovered that this was the Hutch organised crime group that was behind it.
17:10And they were ready to spill the secrets of the Kinnehan's.
17:20One of the secrets that that whistleblower site let out claims that Hitman for Hire, working for the Kinnehan Cartel, killed John Palmer.
17:40So we've come over to Dublin, to meet with a journalist, who has been investigating organised crime, out in Ireland, in Dublin.
18:00And she has intelligence on a hitman who could be a suspect in the murder of John Palmer.
18:19So, Nicola, what happened to John Palmer and how he was murdered? What do you think?
18:23I have a theory. About two years after John Palmer was shot, an international contract killer showed up here in Dublin.
18:36He was employed by the Kinnehan Cartel to take out one of their sworn enemies.
18:42And when he flew in from Alicante, he was here to kill.
18:56The Irish police got a tip off that there was a man on the way in to the airport.
19:01And his name was Imre Arrakis.
19:06He was known as an international hitman for hire.
19:11He was wanted in a number of countries for murder.
19:18Ireland was in the grip of a gang feud.
19:21And they knew that he had previously worked with the Kinnehan organization.
19:27And he was followed.
19:31He was disguised as a tourist, a fishing enthusiast.
19:36He had a rucksack on his back.
19:39He had a tent in it.
19:41And as the surveillance team watched him, he was picked up in a van by a known associate of the Kinnehan organization.
19:47He was followed back to a premises where he was due to stay the night.
19:54He was arrested the following morning.
19:58He found all sorts of weird stuff.
20:03Telescopic equipment.
20:06Disguises.
20:08There was masks.
20:10And during his arrest, an encrypted Blackberry mobile phone was picked up.
20:15This is the printout of those messages that were sent on that encrypted phone.
20:32You know, it shows what he's planning to do.
20:35And how he hopes to go to Belfast and to stalk his prey, really.
20:39And who was he going after?
20:42He was going after a guy called James Magogately.
20:45And this was a military-style operation.
20:50He wanted a gun that was accurate.
20:53And he wanted a silencer.
20:55Those messages.
20:56Read them because I think they show certainly a modus operandi that he's using.
21:02Incredible, isn't it?
21:04I'll have to read this and see how this fits in potentially to John Palmer's murder.
21:09So I'm just reviewing the information that Nicola gave us yesterday in relation to the text messages that were received on the website.
21:27Blackberry phone.
21:42Very detailed information between four individuals, one of whom is identified as Imre Arrakis.
21:48Talking about a very sophisticated plan for a professional assassination.
21:55This is interesting because obviously here you can see the people who commissioned Arrakis replied to OW, which is Arrakis, as to how to go to and identify the target, which is James Gately.
22:12And if you go further down into the text messages, you see Arrakis.
22:19He's now responding, where can we see photos of him?
22:23They say, go into Google, write James Gately, Dublin criminal.
22:30It's the second picture in.
22:33He has a black suit on.
22:35It's a clear picture of him.
22:38That's the target.
22:39By analysing the preparation for this here, I want to see if there are any similarities between it and the murder of Palmer.
22:53And see if Arrakis is a possible suspect.
22:56The people who commissioned Arrakis tell him that the target's car exits the rear of the building from a shutter which opens up and down.
23:13Champagne-coloured Toyota Aventis.
23:18He drives most days, he seems to go to Nuri and back.
23:23We have a tracker on his car.
23:26When he is 10 minutes away, get in position.
23:31He parks in the same space always.
23:33So then you have him.
23:47Arrakis replies, my plan was actually to go there tomorrow.
23:51It seems it's possible to take him down when he comes out of the car.
23:59It is good if the gun is really accurate.
24:14Also, silencer would be good.
24:18This is the shutter.
24:19This is the shutter.
24:20This is the shutter that is described in the text messages.
24:31Arrakis is hiding, Gately comes to here in his car, in his Aventis.
24:42Car comes in, parks up directly in front as described in the text messages.
24:47Literally, Arrakis is bang, bang, bang.
24:51And then he is out.
24:54And then once he is out, he is away.
24:57Gately is murdered.
24:59Dead.
25:01Perfect assassination.
25:11Even though he didn't get to carry out the murder,
25:14Arrakis has identified the vulnerabilities of Gately.
25:20It's all the pre-planning, the whole set up for the murder.
25:25I can't see any CCTV down here.
25:27Ideal place to exploit and kill Gately.
25:31And in similar fashion to John Palmer.
25:39You've got the surveillance, no CCTV, the use of a silencer.
25:44It feels like a professional hit.
25:45Hello?
25:46Is that you, David?
25:48It is, yeah.
25:49Albert, you OK?
25:50Yeah, just a big good news here.
25:51Remember you tasked me to look at the Arrakis as a potential suspect.
25:55Yeah.
25:56Arrakis was in the country, aye, in the UK, but more importantly, in Essex, two weeks before the murder.
26:08Wow.
26:09Right, OK.
26:10I'm on the way back.
26:11How about you OK?
26:12You've got some more for us, haven't you?
26:13Well, we've spoken to the same source that you know.
26:14Let me just summarise what he said.
26:15He's saying Arrakis entered the UK in the weeks before the murder.
26:16It was in the country, aye, in the UK, but more importantly, in Essex, two weeks before the murder.
26:21Wow.
26:22Right, OK.
26:23I'm on the way back.
26:24How about you OK?
26:25You've got some more for us, haven't you?
26:26Well, we've spoken to the same source that you know.
26:27Let me just summarise what he's saying.
26:28He's saying Arrakis entered the UK in the weeks before Palmer's death.
26:45It's got similar facts.
26:49If you look at the detail in relation to what happened in Ireland...
26:52Silencer.
26:53Yeah.
26:54Preparation, lifestyle surveillance, coming into the UK, into Essex, two weeks before the murder of John Palmer.
27:03He's a very, very good suspect.
27:07This is dynamite.
27:19We've had information that a professional assassin, Imre Arrakis, had arrived in England just before the murder of John Palmer.
27:31I've tracked him down.
27:33He's in Lithuania at the moment.
27:38He's standing trial.
27:39He's been arrested for another murder, another assassination.
27:46And he's now on trial for gunning down a man outside his home.
27:50Good evening.
28:05Imri Arakas is probably the best in Europe.
28:19Remigiju Markevičiu is the best friend of Remigiju Markevičiu.
28:26Remigiju Markevičiu, I can say, is known as a child.
28:31He was a brilliant, very professional fighter.
28:35But, in words, he also had another unbeatable life.
28:38He was able to provide contact with the people of the world.
28:45Very, very big figures in the drugs world.
28:50We are working with cartels.
28:53Yeah.
28:57Arakas, Savaukas, mėgdavo stabėti iki nužudimo.
29:01Ir netgi kažkurį laiką gyveno viename iš netolies esančių būtų.
29:11Savo nužudimams naudojo keistos modifikacijos pistoletus.
29:16Galėjo būti pistoletus su duslintuvai.
29:18Ir būtent Remigijui keistos modifikacijos Kalašnikov kažkokiu keistom įscentruotom kulkom.
29:28Kiek man deko girdėti iš aplinkinių žmonių pasakojimų.
29:32Remigiju Markevičiu, jisai tiesiog dar ėjo link žudiko.
29:37Arakas dar keletą kartų paspaudė iš Kalašnikov automato šaulyo.
29:45Ir tuomet jau Remigas suklūpo ir nukryto džemės.
29:57Seedbe šiūtins.
29:59Jau būti.
30:06Jau būti, Arakas ir jau būti.
30:11Jau būti.
30:12Jau būti.
30:13Kiekvienas suklūnės.
30:20Jau, Davius.
30:21Jau, David.
30:22Jau būti, jau būti.
30:24Jau būti.
30:25Jau būti.
30:26Jau būti.
30:27Jau būti.
30:29Jau būti.
30:30Jau būti.
30:32Arakas įsikos,
30:34Jau būti.
30:35Jau būti.
30:36Jau būti.
30:37Jau būti.
30:38Jau būti.
30:39Jau būti.
30:40Jau būti.
30:41Jau būti.
30:42Jau būti.
30:43Jau būti.
30:44Jau būti.
30:45Jau būti.
30:46Jau būti.
30:47Jau būti.
30:48Jau būti.
30:49Jau būti.
30:50Jau būti.
30:51Jau būti.
30:52Jau būti.
30:53Jau būti.
30:54Jau būti.
30:55Jau būti.
30:56Jau būti.
30:57Jau būti.
30:58Jau būti.
30:59Jau būti.
31:00Jau būti.
31:01in Colombia and Mexico and very very very serious criminal organizations and he is effectively
31:11a contract killer who works for those gangs yes but he's been traveling man
31:17right a traveling killer yeah
31:41and we know he arrived in the uk two weeks before the murder of john palmer
31:45so it makes you wonder doesn't it whether or not he is the man who pulled the trigger
32:15we know that arrakas is a really good suspect for the shooting but arrakas is a professional
32:29hitman and so someone employed him
32:33so the big question is what was going on in john palmer's life at that time
32:41that meant he had to be murdered
32:46so we know that on the day of john palmer's murder he was in his lawn tractor and he was taking
32:53documents down to this area here the only area in the house and garden where there's no cctv
33:10according to essex police he is burning documents at the time that he's assassinated
33:15what was he burning what were those documents were those documents evidence
33:27could they have potentially implicated john or other people
33:31recently i traveled to tenerife and i interviewed a man called mohammed durba
33:41and he told me that john was being pursued by the spanish authorities and they were getting closer
33:46and closer to charging him and i've seen speculation about a spanish fraud trial in the papers which
33:54echoes what one of my sources in tenerife has turned up
33:57so i'm going back out there to see what he's got
34:18so i said what we got here estos son documentos de la propia policía española sobre las actividades
34:24ilícitas de john palmer porque la policía española ya estaba tras los pasos de palmer desde hacía mucho
34:31tiempo cuando ya dan el golpe definitivo que deciden imputar formalmente esto es las diligencias
34:39judiciales de el juzgado central de instrucción número 5 la audiencia nacional en madrid el procedimiento
34:46que se elabora para acusar a john palmer aquí nombran las denuncias que tiene por blanqueo de
34:52capitales las estafas evasión de impuestos viene perfectamente detallado con muchos pinchamientos
34:59de teléfonos que sirven al final pues para imputarle los delitos de los que se le acusaba
35:04entonces este tiempo de april 2015 un buen sitio es que rico
35:12esto coincide este esta fecha de las diligencias es cuando asesinan natan en el reino unido a john
35:22palmer so the week that john palmer found out that he had the court date was the week that he got
35:28murdered so spanish justice was catching up with john palmer see
35:32so we know on the 10th of april 2015 john palmer is indicted with 10 others for fraud offenses
35:52firearms offenses and money laundering in relation to the timeshare in june at some stage the papers are
36:00served on the 10 defendants so there's clearly a legal noose tightening around john's neck and the
36:06others palmer was 64 years old and he was looking at 15 years in jail so the question is would he have
36:14been tempted to cut a deal to avoid prison and if so would someone have wanted to stop him
36:31my name is kevin lane i've previously been convicted of contract killing and i met john palmer in long
36:37larton when i first met john john had just been sentenced for the timeshare when i met him when
36:46he came into long larton you could see is at the age where god what am i doing here in prison with all
36:51the wealth that i've got long line had a serious reputation for making weapons in there they had a
36:58metal shop in there people used to make their own knives or spikes very dangerous place
37:03and so when was the last time you spoke to john i spoke to him over the phone prior to his death
37:11when he lived in essex
37:15it's just talking about the upcoming case how
37:20he did want to go back to prison at his age yeah i definitely know it hit him quite hard
37:33in 2015 john palmer was facing trial in spain and he was facing a really long time in prison if he was
37:43found guilty and like at 64 years of age that's a death sentence
37:54at the time it was suspected or he was believed certainly to be cooperating
37:59that he was going to rat
38:08so you have to look at who was on the indictment and like what did they stand to lose
38:14and amongst those names is john palmer's former business associate a man facing a sentence that
38:22could have left him locked up in a spanish jail for up to a decade he was floating around the casa del sol
38:29along with palmer and got very mixed up at some point with the kinnaghan organization
38:34the same crew that had hired him ray arrakis
38:49david how'd you do how are you david you all right yeah pleased to meet you i think you had
38:55involvement with john you've known him for a considerable period of time since you were in prison
38:59yeah yeah um do you think knowing the man there was any potential that he would have
39:06gone to the police spoken to the police or given information do you think that's a possibility knowing
39:10the man let's just be quite frank about this yeah that's a possibility of anybody is it the truth
39:18doesn't mean it is no so i would have to say to you there i see nothing of that in john
39:23um he didn't give me any indication that he was going to do that but then would you give indication
39:29to people you were going to do that no and i said i'm being objective here no totally yeah so i suppose
39:35one of the theories is that one of the people on the indictment on the spanish indictment that johnny's
39:42named on you probably know who i'm talking about but the man who's on that indictment is associated to
39:48the kennels do you think knowing that individual do you think that there is any possibility that person
39:58could have jumped to the conclusion that john was gonna talk about him i wouldn't know right
40:05is that you think that person's got the capability of doing what happened to john
40:12hasn't everybody yeah everybody's got all sorts of capabilities
40:16that's all i'm saying on that right got you all right
40:37okay so the investigation's got to three primary motives revenge
40:46mickey mcavoy russia and links to the russian mafia and three the spanish indictment
40:56just before john palmer is murdered the spanish issue an indictment and it's really interesting
41:04i ended up speaking to a journalist in ireland who's very well connected and has been doing a lot of
41:10work around the kinehan cartel we had a long discussion around a man called arrakas who is an estonian hitman
41:21we have information that suggests that arrakas came into the uk just prior to john palmer's murder and
41:31that he is a good possibility the man who actually pulled the trigger who killed john palmer
41:38the question is what was the motive who do you suspect put the money up for the hit
41:47my gut feeling is that one of the individuals on the indictment could be the man who ordered the hit
41:52i don't want to name him and compromise any future police investigation but we do know that he was
41:59involved with palmer in the early days a very violent man well capable of serious violence
42:08who is a close associate of the kinehan's right he was very close to john
42:14and intentionally the man on the indictment may have thought that john was going to implicate him
42:21and put the majority of the real grief onto this this individual
42:31so do we think john palmer could have become an informant yes i do because a motivator would be
42:39the 15-year crime sentence he'd want to reduce due to his age due to his health
42:45the spanish indictment you can't take away the timing you've got to consider that that is the
42:50trigger that's motivated the uh assassination i'm the same as you you know the spanish indictment
42:56so close to the the modern time is is fitting the bill for me there's a name on the indictment
43:03yeah that's that magic what evidence isn't it what they've got against them yeah yeah yeah
43:11got a good motive yeah we have a good picture of him now so he is a a good a very good possibility
43:33so it's been almost 10 years to the date since john palmer was murdered so it's quite a meaningful time
43:44for the family so i'm going to go back and speak to the daughter and see if i can update them around
43:53what we've uncovered so far in the investigation hello how are you okay not too bad thank you come
44:04on in okay hi yeah that would be lovely thank you
44:12so it's been 10 years since your dad was killed so as we approach the 10th anniversary there's a
44:19renewed sense of urgency in this the fact is that the truth is we may never know for certain who killed
44:26your dad um however you know we have uncovered strong new leads and they are new leads you know
44:34places where the police have not gone um and i think it's for the first time that i feel that we've
44:40got something solid to move forward with what we have found potentially is evidence that a hitman
44:48professional assassin was hired to kill your dad that that man is linked to probably the biggest
44:57drugs cartel in the world the kindergarten cartel um and the hit man involved is a man called imray
45:05arrakas we believe the information we've got is he traveled to the uk literally two weeks before
45:12john was killed he has been involved in other murders he's currently in prison in lithuania he's a
45:20professional hitman so who do we think would have paid him the motive that we think may be linked is
45:30that um dad had been told that he was going to face trial in spain they served the proceedings only
45:36weeks before dad was killed and then people around that case feared that dad was going to talk to
45:44the authorities and i found the name in court papers it was linked to both your dad and the killing gang
45:50that's that's the name yeah um without naming him what was your knowledge of that particular man
46:12or is that just something you've heard no i i know that he did used to work for my dad
46:18i'd heard conversations between my dad and that person talking quite often to him it was said that
46:25my dad was um able to do things from prison but in all the honest the truth of it other people
46:33were having to run things so he was employed by your dad did you ever hear any anything that
46:39would suggest that they fell out at any stage well yeah i know that he did stop working for my dad
46:45i think he was probably doing some things that maybe my dad would have not
46:51wanted it done in that particular way right gotcha our intention is to
46:58uh give this information in the form of a report to the police and it's their job then to take it on
47:05it's their job to progress it and hopefully you know there may be there may be some closure for you
47:12yeah i think it's just a bit of time to process it things um but it's better to have something
47:20some information than where it was before where we didn't have any and um i hope at some points they
47:28will look into the person on the piece of paper in more depth
47:35it's quite a lot to process the idea of somebody close to my dad at some point could then organize my dad's
47:46i spent over 40 years investigating organized crime and john palmer led an extraordinary life
48:08he came from nothing to become one of the most notorious and richest criminals in uk history
48:18but the empire that he built came at a price and he created enemies all around the world
48:24our 18-month investigation has taken us from essex to tenerife from ireland to lithuania
48:32and it's shot a light on some of the most dangerous criminal gangs in the world
48:40we've uncovered evidence that points towards the hitman
48:44and the person who had the motive to kill john palmer we're going to hand that evidence over to the
48:49police but ultimately someone in the criminal underworld knows exactly what happened to john palmer
48:5810 years on perhaps one of them is ready to step forward and the murder of john palmer will finally be solved
49:14so
49:19so
49:25so
49:31so
49:33so
49:35so
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