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00:00Mayor of east town and festive favorite the holiday now she's directing as well as starring in the poignant Christmas drama
00:07Goodbye, June it is a very warm welcome back to Kate Winslet
00:12Oh
00:28Hello everybody
00:31This is unlike you Kate
00:33Well, I normally come a bit businessy and play it safe and I thought you know what it's Graham. I'm 50. I look amazing
00:42It's a lot of talcum powder involved in this
00:48Slightly wishing there was okay. Yeah, getting it off. You'll definitely wish there had been
00:55So welcome back to Kate welcome back to Alan and a first time Seth and Jacinda love that's right both
01:02Yeah, you fulfilled your promise to me when you were a guest on my show somebody said I'd said that to you
01:07Did I really say you oh my god, you can't even remember?
01:10No, you know after you left the room everybody said he won't remember a word. He said here. That's true. Yeah
01:18I'm glad I didn't break my promise. Yeah, obviously I promised you'd be a guest on my show because I was a guest on your show
01:22Yeah, and here we are. I'm here. You are thrilled to be here
01:25Well, no, we're delighted you're here and Jacinda gorgeous to see you. Well, do you know what?
01:29It's just lovely to have a New Zealander on the sofa rather than on the red chair
01:36Producer called I did clarify which seat I would be
01:42Yeah, it feels like it's part of national service in New Zealand you must go abroad and tell a story about shooting yourself
01:47We check your passport
01:49You've got a good set of yarns
01:52But it's something it's something about New Zealanders. They they do tell a good they really do and they you know, they're shameless
02:01And Kate
02:03New Zealand connection because you started your film career in New Zealand. Yes, I did
02:08I did the first film I ever did when I was 17 years old was filmed in New Zealand directed by Peter Jackson
02:13We were just backstage saying we're gonna end up talking about Peter Jackson
02:17Well, we are because before politics came a call in you tried to work with Peter Jackson didn't you Jacinda?
02:22I guess technically I did I auditioned for
02:26I did
02:29I did half of New Zealand audition just to be
02:32And half of New Zealand's dad except for me
02:37Too tall what was the problem? That's what I told myself I auditioned to be an extra
02:41Um, as a hobbit
02:43Oh
02:47Because I lived I grew up quite close to Hobbiton where they did all the filming. It's not a real place
02:51It is
02:53You just believe it exists
02:55I also believe it exists
02:57Well, you're wrong
02:59I think it would have been fun if there was just one tall hobbit
03:01in the background
03:03As I recall they had a five foot seven
03:05Little, you know
03:07Ruler against the doorway
03:10And as I walked in I just
03:12Yeah
03:14A little bit of limbo
03:15And a little limbo and then I got as far as the forms and I do remember they asked
03:19Uh, can you ride a horse bareback?
03:22And can you joust?
03:24Uh, and I could ride bareback because New Zealand
03:28Um, but the jousting I fell shy on
03:30I don't remember any jousting in that film
03:32There wasn't
03:35Obviously, nobody, everyone went no
03:39They needed at least two
03:40Yeah
03:41Now, Alan, I have to say huge congratulations on celebrity traders
03:45Oh
03:45I mean, it was amazing
03:47Oh, there you are
03:49I love that picture
03:51I love it
03:54I did some extra filming for it and they went oh Alan do the face when I put the dude that's my face
03:59That's not a face
04:04And I knew because I watched the first episode and my phone was pinging and like you know when you're in the middle aisle at little
04:10When you're going to greg's for the last sausage roll
04:13I was being
04:15Yeah, manipulated
04:17And I was saying it's that thing you know you're on television a lot and so you kind of think I am known but then
04:24Being the star of the biggest show the most talked about show it must feel different
04:30Yeah, I mean people go oh Alan isn't he funny? I've been on telly for 25
04:35I must have been awful
04:37But you know the funny thing and they never kept it in and I just felt really proud just like outwitting all these clever people
04:44And Stephen Fry was at the round table and he went you think big yes, who can the traitors be now?
04:50Remember the Cambridge spies they were they were flamboyant they were camp they were out there, but no one spotted them
04:56And I was obviously going
05:03And are you are you tired of it yet or are you still sick of it?
05:06You say sick of it. Oh, I know what yeah, we've got a clip of you out and about in Soho. Oh, please don't talk to me about celebrity traitors
05:15We've got lots to talk about tonight. Let's get started with kate winslet's new movie
05:35It is called goodbye june and it's in select uk cinemas from the 12th of december and on netflix from
05:42Christmas eve and this is extraordinary. This is a proper winslet production you you star and you direct
05:48But I think the most fascinating thing is that your son. Yes, it wrote this and what's right to me is
05:53It's not a story you imagine a 19 year old guy would would want to write no so my wonderful son joe
06:02When he was 19 years old
06:04He applied to a screenwriting course at the national film and television school look there. He is he's so sweet
06:09And uh, he has always been very passionate and really good at writing and it's been a big part of his creativity
06:16But that didn't necessarily mean that he was going to be able to write a screenplay. Yeah
06:20So he did this six months in intensive course and he was encouraged by a fantastic tutor to just write from the heart
06:28And the most significant thing that had happened in his life was the loss of his grandmother when he was 13 my mum
06:33And uh, he was just so struck and moved by how
06:37We all came together for her and because we all came from this one woman
06:42And so he used that just as a loose inspirational backdrop and created a a fictional story about a messy complex fictional
06:51family set it at christmas time and so it's really a story about how a family do come together
06:57against sort of all odds in many ways because there are lots of
07:02family dynamics at play that are quite
07:04challenging and they have to make it okay so they can make it
07:09Good for this woman to leave them all behind knowing that they're all going to be all right and uh
07:14It was just an extraordinary experience and he'd written this script and he handed it to me and he was like oh, you know
07:18I've written this thing and
07:20It's probably not very good. You know, would you maybe you'll just read it just and then lie if you think it's crap, you know
07:26And uh, and I read it and it was very much not crap and I said well
07:31You've written a film and we're going to make it and he's like
07:35No, don't do no
07:38Don't do that mum thing and I said no that we this is what we're going to do
07:42He worked on it some more and uh and netflix showed some interest and we're like oh my god
07:47It's real and I suddenly realized I couldn't let it go and so here I am 50 years old and I'm now a female director
07:54Well done you very good
08:00Well the clip we have is uh you breaking the news about your mother's illness uh to one of your sisters played by tony collette
08:07Yeah
08:08Hi
08:09I'm actually teaching my holistic dance therapy so I can't really chit-chat but how are you yeah helen listen to me um
08:14Oh my gosh julia this class is so incredible for grief there's this one man
08:18Whose wife died because she slipped on an ikea catalogue and fell down the stove
08:23I mean how tragic is that she was naked helen listen please stop stop just listen
08:29Mum's mum's gone back into hospital
08:31What
08:31Um connor just called me
08:33Oh my god
08:33She she couldn't breathe and they're just trying to figure out what's gone on i'm just heading out the house now
08:38Just living
08:38Oh my god
08:39Um okay okay um okay oh god breathe
08:43She's at the princess mary but i do actually think you should come if you can i think
08:46If you can
08:47I'll just come straight there i'll just i'll i'll get a plane today and i'll bring some um
08:51Florida water and say to clear out month's room and some crystals for healing and i'll i'll pick up some orange squash for her
08:57Great bring some orange he loves it bring some orange squash definitely yeah
08:59Okay great listen you just let me know what time you get in text me i can't believe it so i mean can you tell me
09:03Bye bye bye
09:14You mentioned some of the other people in andrew riseberg johnny flynn timothy small timothy
09:18Dame helen mirren i hear she had some reservations or some doubts
09:23So it all went through proper channels and agents and i spoke to her on the phone and i told her the story and i said it was written by my
09:29Wonderful son and i was going to direct it and she was listening and listening and she said ah darling
09:34i do have to
09:35Stop you because actually i've got two
09:37Personal rules i i will not play someone with dementia and i won't play someone who has got cancer and i said okay
09:44Absolutely fine totally understand that which i did and i said there's no need i won't send you the script she said no
09:50No do send it it does sound rather special a week later i get an email she says i'll break my rule i'd love to support you
09:56This is a wonderful wonderful project
09:59We got
09:59Helen mirren
10:01And she's great in the film she really is amazing she's wonderful yeah and i suppose as a director you know if you're directing people like
10:07Dame helen mirren and you know that must make your job kind of easier but then as you say
10:11Did i ship myself is what you're saying in a ditch in new zealand
10:17There's a red chair waiting for you let's not get on to poo you always get me on to poo on the show
10:22Come on back in the room back in the room
10:23But no uh the grandchildren there's a lot of very young grandchildren i mean directing them must be like sort of herding
10:30Cats oh directing children is the greatest joy there's this thing of never work with children and animals
10:38Working with children is wonderful because children children bring the joy and i also have a theory about kids
10:44Unless they are incredibly incredibly gifted actually you can't
10:48Teach children to act but you can just show them how to be by creating an environment that feels really safe
10:54Really playful and encouraging they were encouraged not to learn their lines they were encouraged to make lots and lots of juicy mistakes
11:00And i would sometimes say to them things like now you see that hospital bed over there i've hidden something in that bed
11:06And your job in this part of the story is to just find what i've hidden in there haven't hidden a thing
11:11The children never knew that we were rolling cameras and so they were completely natural all of the time
11:16We would just use hand signals and it was just amazing and and and they they loved it and they didn't want it to finish
11:22And working with children i mean as you say a lot of people say working with children is difficult
11:27Jacinda tell us when you discovered you were going to have a baby
11:33uh the precise moment the bathroom
11:40Well uh in new zealand uh election night it's not always clear whether or not you have been successful
11:46so in 2017 i uh somewhat unexpectedly became leader of my party campaigned hard and on election night
11:54didn't know whether or not we'd managed to to clinch government so we went into a period of negotiations
12:00and they take about two weeks typically i was about three days shy of those talks concluding and finding
12:07out if i would i was the prime minister of new zealand uh when i found out i was pregnant that is that
12:13actually true that's actually true oh my god um you're even more amazing i'm really glad you've gone
12:20there because you could say that's terrible planning it was it was but women we just get on with it don't we
12:27come on that's right that's right and it was just like that you just had to take every day as it came
12:32because then three days later live on the 6 pm news the minor party we were negotiating with declared that
12:37that i would be the prime minister and it was only me and my husband that knew that i'd do it while having
12:43a baby so even when you were being oh my god she is amazing you are so amazing when you were being
12:51well i could probably add he he wasn't actually my husband at the time either so that's not
12:57i misheard and i thought you said it wasn't even my husband
13:02funny story so it was awkward yeah hilarious but you you you weren't able to tell people by the time
13:12you were being sworn in no no and at that point by the time i was i i was being sworn in and we had
13:19been a very official regal ceremony at parliament uh to open up parliament and and the governor general
13:26comes in and gives a speech from the throne and and for that moment she faces all of parliament
13:32and then i sit next to her on this side facing out the leader of the opposition here the entire judiciary
13:39leaders of the armed force is very very um regal and the entire time i'm thinking i'm absolutely
13:46going to throw up and i'm clocking where my exits are i even started thinking would anyone believe
13:54i just had a bad kebab um but thankfully thankfully i i got through and i got through 20 weeks without
14:03telling uh without telling people wow that's amazing a lot of flowy blouses and because seth your wife it
14:12wasn't morning sickness but on your wedding day was nearly spoiled yeah she had food poisoning and um
14:19we we were at our uh rehearsal dinner and then she felt terrible and she said i don't feel well
14:25and i said it's you trust me it's just wedding jitters the thing when like a man with no experience
14:31just is very certain what's happening i've gone to zero days of medical school i'm like trust me it's just
14:36wedding just you're very you're very nervous about marrying yeah yeah and you have every right to be
14:41um no but she's like i think i have food poisoning i'm like i promise you it's just jitters it's
14:46wedding jitters and then you know we did uh sleep in separate beds different places the night before
14:51our wedding as per tradition and then uh in the morning i called her i'm like so how are you doing
14:55she's like i am in the emergency room i do have food poisoning um but it was the one thing that was um
15:02uh so lovely is that we had she really wanted to do a rehearsed first dance and we're both really
15:07terrible dancers and we had like gone to a whole like dance class with a you know personal instructor
15:13and even the instructor who started by saying look anyone can be a dancer as long as you're in love
15:18and at the end of the first hour was like hum and uh and i remember like the night of you know at the
15:26wedding because she did tough it out and you know it was on an iv and she rallied and the way women do
15:31and uh she goes i just don't think we can do the first dance and i remember being like oh thank
15:35god thank god you ate a bad oyster because alan where were you was it mexico i got montezuma's
15:44revenge have you heard that yeah oh my god how did you do what did you do to montezuma i know it was
15:50so bad and this sounds like a made-up story but it's true have you had a palenque where all the
15:55inca monuments are i felt oh my god i'm gonna ship myself and then i ran and got some water and as
16:03i came out the bushes um there was a marathon there and a woman ran past took my bottle of water and
16:09tipped it over her head she thought it was one of those people yeah oh no i was so dehydrated and
16:17can i say hotel capri in acapulco they refused to give me more toilet paper oh that's not nice no mr car
16:25no please indeed do you remember that finger boy because it was the finger boys the finger bus is coming
16:33oh the venga boys i think we're saying the finger boys the finger boys that i saw that i'm on to
16:37zoom as revenge as well you're the one you're the one i remember just use this i remember just laying
16:46next to the next to the toilet and it was coming out both ends and i was just staring in how could it
16:51get worse and then this party boat came round the venga boys are coming
16:57okay we must uh also remind everybody that we'll be seeing you soon in is the third installment of
17:08avatar correct yes this one's called fire and ash i know it doesn't look anything like me every time
17:15i see myself and i'm like oh that is actually me no but they do make you go and do it yes yes yeah
17:21absolutely um but you can tell it's me from my top lip i think and because they've kept my beauty mark
17:27which is nice i mean it's not animation it's it's proper motion capture yeah this time no holding
17:32breath underwater no there was quite a lot of that as well still there was and there was a bit of
17:36underwater fighting in this one but i can't really say anything yeah you're gonna have to see it well
17:42people can find out on the uh 19th of december avatar fire and ashes on the 19th december and don't
17:47forget kate's film goodbye june that is in cinemas from next friday very good now
17:57uh jacinda ardern brings us a truly extraordinary documentary about her time in office it's filmed
18:03over seven years it's called prime minister and it's out in cinemas today and before we talk about
18:09it here's just a taste of the trailer i think i have natural levels of anxiety for someone who's 37
18:16years old and who's also pregnant every time i got on a plane i would look out a window and i would think
18:23from that mountain to that river that is my responsibility oh this is normal i have three
18:31years to do as much as we can but in the back of my mind i thought how am i going to do this with a baby
18:38i just feel sorry for myself listening to that because i just have no idea what's coming
18:43absolutely no idea there were two groups on the island those who were evacuated and those close to the
18:49eruptions we only have six cases at the moment this can only be described as a terrorist attack
18:57crises make governments and they break governments if things went wrong it was my job to fix it wow
19:10it obviously turned into this amazing story but as you said there you know you didn't know what was
19:15coming so when you started filming this at the beginning all those years ago what did you think
19:20the film was going to be not this um my my now husband um is a broadcaster and so when he was
19:30in close proximity to all of these things suddenly happening he thought well i should capture this
19:37and i think only he could have uh you know helped create what it now is because i would never have
19:43otherwise let someone film me as consistently in my pajamas um or my bathrobe um or at home and
19:51behind the scenes um and it's created i hope you know as a story that shows what it's like to lead
19:59and i hope also a story that says that you can lead differently than perhaps the way we see in the
20:04world today yeah i mean after that there are times when you're quite tetchy there are times when you
20:09wish clark you make that sound like that doesn't happen often it's the bulk of the foot yeah and
20:16that's because we never had any intention about what would happen with the footage you know i was
20:20doing in in new zealand we have this great project where archivists call politicians and interview them
20:26and they've been doing it for decades so i was recording these interviews and that was another reason
20:31he thought well i'll put some footage in as well but without a clear idea of what we what would happen with
20:35it and i think that was positive too because otherwise i would i don't think i would have been
20:40as open otherwise and so obviously the thing that kind of brought you to global attention was your
20:46response to covet where you shut the borders the quarantine you got it down to zero cases and
20:51initially obviously incredibly popular in new zealand you had this landslide election victory yes yeah we
20:56did 2020 it was almost the election then was almost like a like an election in the middle of a of a war of
21:03sorts that's how it felt in some ways and so it was an unprecedented um victory but it never felt
21:10like victory i kind of thought okay people want us to keep going and so we did but it got harder
21:15yeah i mean we were certainly aware of what new zealand was doing here in america were they aware
21:19of oh very much so i you know people were lucky enough i think everybody wanted to go there you
21:25know that was the place everybody uh wanted to be and uh yeah i mean certainly we were jealous anytime
21:31you know you saw a ticker that there was a country with zero cases that seemed like a job well done
21:36you know the new zealand immigration new zealand website after a couple of particular elections
21:40in the u.s has crashed i would imagine yeah people looking into it everybody was like are they
21:47doing can i be an extra are you still looking for a hobbit so it began it began very well and people
21:54in new zealand were happy about what you're doing and then as time went on cracks began to appear we've
21:59got a second clip from the documentary i just don't understand how anyone could assume that i'm so
22:07cavalier about having a whole city and over a million people in lockdown of course i think about
22:14it all the time i have to take sleeping pills so i don't think about it all the time
22:18my question is to the prime minister does she accept estimates that new zealand's economy will shrink by
22:3210 percent this year while australia's will fall by less than five the speaker as i've said i've heard a
22:40range of
22:45simon bridges yelled across the house she doesn't do the economy
22:52i wanted to punch him in the face
22:59and the i mean the answer might be obvious but why was that comment so annoying you know because at that
23:07time of course we were focused on both and our view was that a you know response on covert that
23:13focused on keeping people alive was also the best response for the economy as well um i should add i'm
23:19not a violent person uh and and we did get through and so many of the things that they predicted may
23:26happen we managed to prevent it was hard but i still feel proud of that and negative voices began to
23:32get louder and there is still this very kind of vociferous group in new zealand who feel very
23:36strongly about you what went wrong what what what was the tipping point i think you know one thing
23:43and again of course we all take responsibility for our own time and in politics and in office and i so i
23:49say this this next thing not to to diminish that but i think we have seen politics globally shift gears
23:56uh and i think we have uh seen politics you know carry a lot more grievance from individuals and
24:03it's and it's in some ways become more violent and aggressive so you know i don't think it was just
24:08any one leader that it's experienced that shift it has shifted uh and yet in amongst all of that i do
24:14think we're in a moment in time and i think in response to that moment in time my plea is for people
24:20to not give up on an expectation that politics can be better uh that expect decency in politics expect
24:27empathy and kindness in your politics and i do think that we'll return to that as well i hope that
24:32bitterness never comes to the stage are you worried that this documentary anyone watching it will think
24:44dear god i'm never going into politics i do get asked the question would you ever recommend it to
24:50a young person absolutely i would and you know look the the documentary captures the big moments yeah but
24:57there was so much joy in between so much joy uh what other job if you're you know if you're um a do-gooder
25:05um like i can be sometimes where you see a problem in the world and you've got the power to do something
25:10about it what other job do you get that gift so i would absolutely recommend uh politics to to
25:17good people and we need more good people in there so don't shy away are you going to go back into
25:23politics no no i mean it's a great job do as i say do as i say i did it for 15 years okay yeah thank you
25:38how young were you when you got into politics i was well when i went into parliament i was 28. wow yeah
25:43so i feel like i did i did my all right all right now it's for the next generation well listen it is
25:50a fascinating watch it really really is syndes documentary prime minister is in cinemas now okay
26:01we turn to mr seth myers uh the award-winning host of late night with seth myers you can see it
26:07here in the uk on weekends on cnbc so based on that you don't watch it cnbc this can't be right
26:20i was thinking it sounds like a children's channel well thanks for the support graham
26:30it's also available on youtube yeah yeah that's easier yeah or if you go to america you can be on
26:34it yeah yeah perfect worked out for you yeah yeah it's a celebrity talk show it is it is like this but
26:41once a year seth myers you break your booking policy oh yes i have my uh well once a year on
26:47thanksgiving it's very hard to book obviously on thanksgiving and so when i started my show
26:52i started with my parents and my brother are on every year and uh it's very lovely but then this
26:57year we we went a little bit further and i had my children on the show who were young they're nine seven
27:02and four wow and uh i did not tell them they were going to be on the show uh i gave them no warning
27:08because i thought they would get stressed they were actually in the building to take their christmas card
27:11photo and i just sort of low-key said let's just have three microphones ready and we pre-taped it
27:16a week early um but after our first guest uh that night was cynthia revo and the kids had finished their
27:22photo and i go just come out daddy's gonna ask you some questions and uh it was six minutes it's the
27:29most white knuckle interview i've ever done uh here's seth and the meyer children yeah well how did you
27:36guys uh did you get here by uh in a car or a subway axel car gotcha what about you took the subway
27:45you came at different times addy did you like the subway yeah the subway smells like diarrhea
27:52so huge yeah you see children bring the joy children bring the joy my oldest was the one who
28:07was the most i think um had the most anxiety about doing it and as we walked off he just like took my
28:12arm he goes that was great should we should do it again soon very much and they just like god the
28:18bug is that the son who thinks he's going to inherit yeah my son said to me once he goes dad i have a
28:23question i said what's your question he said when you die do i get your show and i'm like based on
28:29the diarrhea answer your sister gets the show and i said before the the talk show in america you were
28:36very famous because of of course saturday night live yeah um there you are there you are it was on when i
28:44was uh on the show oh my god i was can i just say when i was on it was absolutely terrifying i think
28:48it's terrifying for everybody am i allowed to quickly tell the story even though this is totally
28:52unplanned no go uh when i was on it was the week after ashley simpson was done for lip-syncing yeah
28:58right i'm then on with eminem okay i was doing publicity for a film called finding neverland at the
29:04time and johnny depp and i had to miss the wednesday rehearsal because we had to go to chicago and
29:09talk to oprah and i'm thinking oh my god what's the opening monologue going to be i get to wednesday
29:13night come back from the oprah thing still they're like well we're just you know trying to figure
29:18it out i'm like just please tell me it's you know it's a couple of days away just what you're going
29:23to have me do the next day i go in and they're like can you sing and i said i'm a little you know
29:29ish kind of do you dance i'm like i mean yeah like do you tap dance i'm like yeah yeah i do perfect
29:35i'm like so what what's the opening model we'll get back to you i'm like oh my god
29:38now what's happening this is absolutely terrible they gave me 24 hours to learn nothing's impossible
29:45i have found for when i'm tap dancing and singing fully live the week after the whole ashley simpson
29:51thing and also i have to say something else and this is a story i've never never told eminem asked me to
29:57shave his bottom there's always a month there's always like a poo bum theme for me when i come on
30:04this was it a handheld razor well he did he said would you shave my butt and i said i'm sorry i don't
30:09i don't do personal grooming like what i'm not going to go with a bic and get your crackler honestly that's
30:17my never told that story before ever in my life in public there you go hey can i say i should have
30:25said yes well they're doing nothing should have said yes when she said no i did say yes
30:35i was early in the show i would do anything was that tip is that typical that hosts get stuff really
30:41late yes it speaks to the legacy of the show that people keep sort of opting into the the terrifying
30:47week than it is but i think if you what you know if we didn't have kind of a little bit of fear
30:51i think like even you like we wouldn't we wouldn't do any of this because i think the fear motivates you
31:06i lost fear in about 1997. we did have a we used to say like whenever a host wasn't nervous
31:14we knew the show was about to be a disaster hello i was married i was married to sam mendes at the
31:23time joe's dad and i said to him please please don't come just just just don't it's really fine
31:29i don't need you to come he's like no okay fine he bloody well came i walked through the doors at the
31:33back and i go like this and all i see is sam sat there going oh my god it was really horrifying
31:44actually your uh connection with uh snl continues could you do a podcast yes uh the yeah yes with
31:52andy samberg uh kate's co-star in lee oh yes because you yes old andy yeah he's wonderful he
31:57was in lee with you yes he was indeed and andy samberg is he your friend he's one of my oldest
32:03dearest friends yeah but what's the thing and i don't want to make you sad but yeah i know your
32:09your dog died yeah my dog 14 years old frisbee yeah and andy samberg he hated that yeah so
32:18he hated my dog and he met my dog when she was a puppy and he said on the day he met her she's a
32:23ugly rat dog and then every single time he came on my show he basically would just say how's frisbee
32:29that piece of shit yeah he would love to say that yeah no he's a bad guy but um he basically doubled
32:37down and doubled down i mean having your kids on i guess yeah but the dog i will be honest the dog was
32:46not as as uh electric as the kids but it was like andy leaned into the not even looking at you no
32:57yeah no frisbee wasn't a good desk but he really just doubled down on the comedy of hating my dog
33:02and then uh i kept saying like you know this dog is 13 years old and are you do you think you can
33:07weather the storm of hating a dog that recently passed and he goes i'm gonna ride it out and then
33:12i will say when frisbee passed away i called up andy and i'm like well that awkward day has come
33:17and he's like i'm really sorry how are your kids i'm like everybody's okay he's like okay i'm i am
33:21gonna still publicly say she was a rat dog and the new york times it was the i mean i have it framed
33:28because the new york times wrote an article that said seth meyer's dog and andy samberg's nemesis
33:34passes away and i'm like i cannot believe the most famous thing about my dog is that you hated her
33:39because alan you've got a new dog yes yes i got a rescue dog and uh she's completely deaf
33:47and um she was meant to be a guard dog and of course she's dumped and she's deaf so they gave me a
33:51lead which says i am deaf on it so i'm walking around the park and people are going what's her breed
33:57she's got like a bright color because she's got no recall she's got bells it's like taking a ufo for a
34:15walk she's glowing all around i don't know how i would react differently knowing a dog is deaf
34:22as a person just walking past you in a park like that that's death for cheese for dogs okay what
34:28that's what the woman said cheese well that's death that woman said that's death the deaf dog cheese
34:35okay that's death for dog yeah that's all that's your dog is she won't is that to send her out to the
34:43store chase also it seems like if the dog wants cheese they would need to sign it to you
34:52it's a new dog don't give me stress
34:57i like that's the one word
34:58i give you cheese you can work out the rest yourself there you go be fine uh seth it is so
35:06great to have you all thank you i'm so happy to be here don't forget you can watch late night with
35:10seth myers weekends on cnbc oh wow you know i'm on it now you know yeah meanwhile alan carr is back on
35:23the road for his new tour it's called have i said too much but we should say tickets are on sale i think
35:31today yes but it'll be a while before they can go yes 2027. i'm a slow writer i'm a slow writer
35:41do you know what i was going to call the show national traitor
35:44oh but you know i've got to stop milking it i've got to let it go and i i think if i die i'll be like
35:53oh look there's that bloke who wore that cloak that's what they're gonna say you sell you know
35:59better than being andy samberg's nemesis
36:03now your last tour to go all over the world did you end up in new zealand yes new zealand austria now
36:09what's that hotel in new zealand which you can bungee jump off the top oh that's in a
36:15that's auckland auckland was it the sky tower yes they can bungee jump off the top of the hotel i'm there
36:23unpacking i'm seeing people screaming
36:27ow ow ow and then i see them come back i'm like how
36:31shit is this hotel oh my god i wanted a double bed
36:39so yeah i mean i i always stay there maybe the sky yes yes yeah so i always go go everywhere and um
36:47yeah i love it i love it there's no theme there's a little bit about me being single but traitor stuff
36:52and stuff i never have themes i just when my notebook is full of jokes i just go on tour just every three
36:57years i love it i just love the freedom of it all yeah and i obviously people will want you to talk
37:02about uh celebrity trainers and were you no offense but were you as surprised as everyone else when you
37:10won when i laughed in their face
37:16i'm a faithful i really thought when i go around that table they're all just gonna say alan alan alan
37:22yes they didn't are they stupid are they so stupid and then then i started crying because
37:29it was lit nick muhammad's face he was like we got this we got this and i'm like no i've got this
37:38have any of you seen this i've not seen this season no no i saw the eight minutes there's a real
37:43oh yeah me too and i saw celia and refart oh my god i i was changed to her i couldn't move
37:54and well you have to talk about paloma because she did not find it funny no no
37:59as she got over it she had and i saw her yesterday we did some silly sketches and stuff like that
38:05but you know like i said to her i said it's a game it's called the traitors it's like going on like you
38:10know what's it called naked attraction and saying what i've got to take my knickers off
38:17we've got a picture of you and paloma last night oh wow oh oh my god i think i know who you're being
38:27i could not get that foundation off we are friends that's just smiling
38:34it's claudia winkleman great yeah you know what i had a feeling
38:40i've got a question how do they as a tv show how do they inform you that it's going to be you
38:46before the show how does that all you sit there okay i'll show you yeah go on oh my god you're
38:53blindfolded this is claudia yeah blindfolded she's she's so light on her feet yes like a cartel
39:02yeah ah and then yes did you not nearly have a heart attack well you clearly haven't seen it i went
39:14i nearly chewed from my lip with panic
39:16you know we have a really cheap white wine and do you really not know before that moment at all
39:24no no and you don't know who it is and then you go into the turret and you go and there was jonathan
39:30ross there and cat and then i watched about i didn't realize how loud i was because i've done my first
39:37murder and i said to jonathan i've done it
39:43do you realize how loud i am inside voice
39:49i think we need a new hitman
39:52and it's going to be loads for you to talk about in your new show uh so get writing it a reminder
39:57tickets for alan's uh upcoming tour of i said too much are on sale now hey it is time for music
40:03and this mercury prize nominated singer songwriter also murdered her way to the final of celebrity
40:08traders uh here performing there's just something about her it is cat burns
40:23let me tell you about a girl i don't really do this but i can't keep it to myself
40:30she turns every head in the room oh god she's something else i lose all my composure this ain't nothing
40:37but i felt i need some help cause i'm not sure how you do it in my thoughts intrusive living free in my mind
40:54there's just something about her i can't put my finger on it but every time she looks at me
41:03can't help it i just find it there's something about her and i wonder if she knows it
41:09cause i lose all ability to talk it's like she's magic there's just something about her
41:15i just don't understand you're so perfectly made it's like god she had a plan
41:28have i missed my chance with you you must be in demand
41:32i'm trying to keep it cool i'm trying to keep it cool but i do anything i can
41:36might not sound like a friend because i'm not sure how you do it in my thoughts
41:46intrusive living free in my mind
41:54there's just something about her i can't put my finger on it but every time
42:00she looks at me can't help it i just panic there's something about her and i wonder if she knows it
42:07Cause I lose all ability to talk, it's like she's magic
42:11That's just something about her
42:13You do something to me
42:15Something about her
42:17You do something to me
42:31I lose it like a groupie
42:33You do something to me
42:35I'm never like this
42:37Usually you do something to me
42:39I lose it like a groupie
42:42You do something to me
42:44I can't put my finger on it
42:48But every time she looks at me
42:51Can't help it, I just panic
42:52There's something about her
42:55And I wonder if she knows it
42:57Cause I lose all ability to talk, it's like she's magic
43:01There's something about her
43:03There's something to me
43:05There's something about her
43:07I know I can do it
43:09There's just something about her
43:11There's something to me
43:13There's something about her
43:15I know I can do it
43:17Oh yeah there's something about her
43:19There's something about her
43:23There's something about her
43:25I know I can do it
43:27I know I can do it
43:29I can do it
43:29I can do it
43:30I can do it
43:31Thank you so much
43:40Just gorgeous
43:41Thank you very much
43:42Come on up
43:43You know Alan
43:44That's Seth
43:45Jacinda
43:46Kate
43:46This is Pat
43:48I love you
43:49I love you
43:49Oh
43:49Should I very carefully
43:51Congratulations
43:52Uh that sounded so good live
43:56Thank you very much
43:57Uh that is the single
43:58There's just something about her
44:00And that's from a new album
44:01How to be human
44:02Yes
44:02Which is out now right
44:04Yeah
44:04Yeah
44:04Yeah
44:04And you talked about this album
44:07And saying oh it is about heartbreak
44:09But you didn't want it to be a sad album
44:11No I mean
44:12The album's about grief and heartbreak
44:14I lost my grandad last spring
44:16And I think I wanted to showcase the first year of what grief can look like
44:22And I remember watching a video of Andrew Garfield
44:25And he said that grief is just love with no home
44:28And I just thought that was really beautiful
44:30And I was like I need to make a project based on that
44:34Um and then that's how it came to be
44:35So it's sad but it's also hopeful at the same time
44:38I saw that Andrew Garfield it was on um
44:40That was on Stephen Colbert wasn't it
44:42Yeah
44:42In America on the American talk show
44:43Yeah
44:44So uh here you are together uh Kat and Alan
44:47Uh and uh
44:50Now I feel bad I feel bad talking about celebrity videos again
44:53I feel like I'm torturing you three
44:55You're kind of like oh dear god
44:56Alan Alan did say please don't bring it up again
45:00Maybe just one more time
45:04There's a cloak behind the sofa
45:08So uh that moment when you both voted for Jonathan to be banished
45:13Had you talked about that beforehand the two of you
45:16Well I think I I was running with the big dog theory so I was like if I don't
45:21The fucking big dog theory
45:22Yeah
45:24Once Stephen was gone I was like to Jonathan I'm gonna have to do you and he was like I know
45:29So it was like I got to say but I don't I think it was probably a shock that you did it
45:34I didn't know what I was
45:35I didn't know I was just pleased I got the name spelt right
45:41Yeah I mean really
45:42There's such a bad advertisement for strategy
45:45And they were sitting there going these traitors are so clever
45:49You know the way we were just like we didn't know what was going on
45:54Yeah
45:55Kat you're going on tour I am in April wow so soon unlike your friend
46:03You'd buy tickets and remember you've got them
46:07Next spring yeah and some of the tickets are gone or about almost so get your tickets yes
46:14And Kat good luck with the tour and thank you very much for being thanks for that great performance thank you Kat burns everybody
46:24That is it for tonight no time for red chairs I'm afraid so please thank the rest of my guests Alan Cobb
46:31Seth Meyers
46:34Jacinda Ardern
46:36And Kate Winslet
46:42Join me next week with music guest jade fashion guru edward ennenville comedy genius rowan atkinson double oscar winner emma thompson and hollywood superstar timothee chalamet
46:52I'll see you then good night already bye
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