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00:00Cody turned 50 and often he started making all this noise about he was carrying the whole family
00:04I got three ex-wives are going Cody changed Cody changed Cody changed all right
00:08I guess we all went through menopause together and I just didn't want to do the hard work anymore
00:30so I am in New Orleans and I have fun trip I planned with my girlfriends and we're just here
00:46having a girls weekend this is so great how pretty I'm just celebrating like being free the property
00:51is closed like it's free I'm like it's good everything's good I'm here with Alice who I've
00:57known for a long time at least 13 years probably Christina and Angela are my friends from Flagstaff
01:04and I've known them a year or two here's Janelle getting a new man oh yes I mean like they are
01:14really pushing the dating thing it's fine whatever I mean doesn't mean I have to act we don't wear you
01:18out with all the questions good yeah it's okay that's how she rolls wait how did you tell your
01:23mom that you were going to be a polygamist well I wasn't even at that point I was just kind of I
01:28was intrigued by him so I was originally introduced the idea that polygamy was an option at the very
01:34end of high school for a long time I just had my token polygamist friends that were like party
01:38something they would talk about at parties and I really made it a spiritual a spiritual thing I
01:43prayed about it and I just really felt strongly that that was my life path when I was yeah I was
01:49starting to talk to Cody and um I met the family I was really intrigued my mom's like oh heck no
01:55heck no heck no heck no my mom came to save me and ended up marrying Cody's dad and that's it
02:00if you can't beat him join him I don't know what my mom came to save me from the polygamist because
02:07no daughter of hers was going to marry some into some crazy cult and she ended up marrying Cody's dad
02:12and they actually got married three months before we did when they decided to get married I was like
02:17I was gonna be a little hard to explain but all right it was a little weird at first but I'm like
02:21okay it's great like somebody's here with me I guess you know because a lot of my family did not
02:25understand my choices they were um hesitant to still remain in contact with me just because they
02:30thought I'd gone off the deep end were there any other women that you guys had considered bringing
02:36into the family before Robin or after Robin there there were there was one before me okay that didn't
02:43work out the wives always have a say if somebody is going to come into the family it's not like the
02:49husband comes home and says hey here's my new wife that would never fly no no no no no she dodged a
02:55bullet it really was a beautiful honestly it was a beautiful marriage between all of them in the
03:04beginning like I would love to see some sort of like everyone's happy for each other and maybe in a
03:10decade listen Cody has a victim card and he likes to play it right that's awesome I think that people
03:19change right and especially in long marriages and when he turned 50 that was a big deal for him
03:23something happened I think he had a different perspective or something on his life and I think
03:28he just was like I don't know why I want to keep doing this right I don't know if I want to keep putting
03:31all this effort into this family I'm putting words in his mouth well here comes our beautiful food yes
03:37so this is the garlic block oh my god smells so good you don't have any handsome farmers around us do
03:46you I wouldn't tell you my children are grown they are really essentially independent for the first time
03:56ever I'm like wow I can do whatever I want I can pick up and go with my girlfriends to Hawaii on a
04:01moment's or New Orleans on a moment's I mean like you know we planned this a little bit but yeah like
04:05I kind of enjoy that and I kind of want to get back to finding that person in there who used to be a
04:10little more spontaneous so Amber and I have been wanting to take a trip to Las Vegas have a seat
04:21tell me what you've gotten us into I'm a little scared oh my gosh I'm a little scared and I did
04:29find this dating event there and so I'm going to let her know that I found it and we're registered and
04:37we're gonna go um maybe you could explain to me what it is that you've committed us to in Vegas of
04:46all places well I mean listen so it's not gonna be like a speed dating thing like what's it called
04:51I don't know it's like Vegas girls or something like that are we gonna end up strippers the end of
04:58this do you want to end up strippers no I mean they make good money the host of this event it's called
05:06Vegas girls events what kind of girls in Vegas is this really this is what's on social media about
05:13it if you're ages 40 to 55 we're hosting a singles mixer with matchmaking technology I mean that's
05:18perfect 40 to 55 you're 40 I'm 54 okay it's a singles mixer keep going are you sick of the dating apps
05:24and looking for a real connection yes okay I am totally sick of the dating apps yeah they suck it
05:29will be fun dating at this age is weird I got to a speed dating event in Salt Lake City a few months
05:37ago and I met Ron and he and I are still in touch we're still talking yeah there's no pressure with
05:42me and Ron we're just kind of seeing what happens okay so we have to bring white t-shirts why what is
05:48this with white t-shirts you don't know a white t-shirt spring break white t-shirt contests oh is
05:54that the same as a wet t-shirt contest is it wet or is it white the white gets wet and then you see
05:58all the things so is it white white because call it a white t-shirt or a wet t-shirt if it's a white
06:04t-shirt but it's not wet it doesn't have the same effect as if it's a wet t-shirt that is white if you
06:12wore black and you got it wet it wouldn't be the same thing so it's a white t-shirt contest let's just
06:17make sure though that when we send texts of this to each other we also put in emojis
06:25are you going to text me an eggplant if you're filling somebody
06:35you're nervous well because dating is weird dating is weird oh everything's fine
06:54you're stressing me out your face like it's stressing me out i feel like that i go into
07:04like first dates
07:05with very low expectations and i know like at the very beginning it was like oh maybe this could be
07:14something or maybe this could you know what i mean were you expecting to fill something right off the
07:19bat i don't want to fill anything like the butterflies and stuff like that's that's what makes it like
07:29fun initially yeah you know and so to not have that i would feel so bored
07:33if you're bored most people will be like oh this is this is not right but is there a difference
07:39between bored and calm because i'm good with feeling calm i'm not good with feeling bored you know like
07:44for me like my relationship was so it was very very dysregulating yeah being married to him yeah
07:54you know because it was like i never knew if or when i was going to have any attention yeah and that
08:01that kind of relationship obviously was not healthy when somebody gets very excited and get the butterflies
08:08and you get like oh my gosh this is just so amazing was is he ever going to be around is he going to show me
08:14affection and attention when he is around when it's boring it's just more grounded you don't have that
08:22roller coaster of emotions and so i knew i never knew what to expect you know and i don't want to
08:29feel like that yeah i can recognize okay i'm feeling calm and i'm yeah not like oh my gosh i need it so
08:38much hi lovey i'm really glad that amber's with me and that we're doing this together yeah i'm a little
08:45bit nervous about this one join a daddy should we find your daddy rob and i are going out to dinner
08:55and i got something really special that i want to talk to her about and i just started getting this
08:59sort of vibe that i need to go apologize i was trying really hard not to give him too much reaction
09:06he says a lot of things that may not even happen so
09:09hey what size shoes i believe in eight and a half we're gonna go bowling today uh to be honest
09:24with you i haven't been bowling since well is i think isabel was 12 i think when i went bowling last
09:31okay everything oh my god why would you do that that's just horrible i am honestly not a fan of
09:36bowling i think it's terribly boring but even if it's like something that you don't really like
09:40just being with people that you really like is awesome
09:43no jason
09:45there you go see close better
09:54wait no no no no god they're a lot
10:04truly and i we still have our hugs like this if she's in a bad mood i'll be sarcastic to her and
10:10she'll snap out of it and we'll be just fine your shoes on tight david you're messing me up
10:17so david is like very much a jokester wait you run to put on oh my god
10:23um he doesn't take anything too seriously which is very awesome
10:34when my mom and david first like started dating like it'll happen like very fast and
10:45i wasn't like used to another man in my mom's life so i was really worried about what kind of
10:50role he would take up i was worried mostly that he would like take up the role of dad in our family
10:56which we have a dad so i was like i thought that he might
11:00like take up too much space he doesn't do that and he never oversteps
11:06okay when you're throwing the arm down you're you're turning this way turn it out a little bit
11:16okay he's like very respectful he's very respectful of my dad he's very respectful of my mom and her
11:22kids and that she is a mom to us and that he is her husband and not her dad and so like that's a hard
11:29thing to balance especially like if your dad isn't like very like prevalent in like your life
11:35my dad and i do not talk very often no yeah
11:47my dad and i are like close close close close close close but i mean he's still my dad and i love him
11:55oh there she goes she's dialing in
11:59like i've realized like how much of like a role my mom has in my life i mean she's two people in one
12:09she can be the dad and she can be the mom and she's perfect at it and so and then david's awesome too
12:15good job oh my god i fell for her oh yeah no no it's important to me to have my kids see me in a
12:24functioning relationship and a loving and romantic and fun and silly and i love that my kids get to be
12:31exposed to a great couple like us honestly everybody ready one two three cheers
12:36i think it took
12:38share with you in and not a problem oh i know rob and i are going out to dinner and have a special
12:56night to a great place and i got something really special that i want to talk to her about
13:01so i got this idea that i've been thinking about a lot and it's more than an idea
13:08everything that went down with trying to sell coyote pass
13:14yeah so it was like having traumatic responses to what felt like still being a connection to these
13:22exes that made me feel manipulated and unsafe yeah right i'm just trying to make people happy
13:30after the sell a coyote pass i had this experience um where i just felt like
13:36i was disappointed the real factor is is that i felt shame
13:40all right well we're looks like it's all coming together
13:46all right i'm glad it's done glad glad it's finally done we finally get it done
13:53we meet with them and it's just
13:56awkward
13:58i wasn't getting along with ex-wives i had had so much venom and vitriol toward them as i look back
14:08on it the only part of it that i control is my own behavior my own actions and i'm like well
14:12if i would have done that better then we wouldn't have all this uh angsty distrust
14:17you know after that whole experience and it's still just weird at coyote pass
14:22and then you talking to to me about getting therapy uh i kind of got just prayerfully tuned in trying
14:30to go okay god what should i do about this mess that i'm in and how i feel you know i just started
14:34getting this sort of vibe that i need to go
14:38apologize
14:41just with what i need to own
14:50about the breakups about how things happen with the family
14:53i don't know how to say this just straight as i can
14:57i want him to i want to set him free just get him to
15:02stop thinking talking being about me
15:06so how are you going to do that i'd go and apologize
15:12because i'm angry and i'm just sick of it
15:16um i was when he first told me that he wanted to meet with it with the exes and
15:22i apologize i was like kind of sort of shocked and i was trying really hard not to give him too
15:28much reaction because i was just like i was processing it he says a lot of things that may not even happen
15:34so
15:37i want to apologize for being angry when they wanted out
15:41i don't think you should be so hard on yourself about being hurt that's pretty normal but here's
15:46the thing because i got angry yeah i caused other hurtful issues
15:51like this is an apology to all three of you i don't want to do it at the same time or anything
15:55like that i don't want you to get some funny idea where i'm going to meet with all three of them
15:58i just want it yeah because i think that would set me up for just total failure
16:02um there's a lot of you are you hearing what i'm saying though that this the idea of this apology
16:10yeah i didn't mean to interrupt your thought but i'm not sure if i've made myself clear i seldom do
16:16before i know you've got some other thoughts but the first thing i want to ask is do you think that's
16:20it's dumb do you think it's i mean not dumb i mean like foolish
16:33i have had men kind of joke about like oh i get a bunch of women cheers to finding our soulmates
16:40finding your soulmate i didn't choose polygamy just for the sex
16:49that was awesome
16:56this is our last day in new orleans and i want to make sure we maximize the things that we can do here
17:02like if i was a sister wife i would just look at the other wives as best friends yeah i mean that's
17:08great if that happens i would be too jealous like i could not do the multiple wives like i'm a latina
17:15so i'm already jealous enough well look i didn't grow up thinking oh i'm gonna live this life like
17:20when i was i mean it was such a strong religious conviction and so i kind of went into it thinking we
17:24were going to all be best friends you know and this utopia thing and then the first week or two
17:29a merry night it didn't mesh well i think i went in so idealistic thinking oh this is going to be
17:37awesome you know and the conflict started like almost immediately and i thought okay this is very
17:43different than what i thought it was going to be there was never like an exit plan i was committed
17:49to my faith and i'm like yep i'm going to figure this out do you feel like there's going to be a day
17:54where you're completely separated from the entire family except your immediate family i think
17:59we'll always be a family like really truly because now the next generation's coming and
18:03kelti and tony now live in north carolina okay so those babies are going to come to me in the summer
18:07i think we might have discussed that for a minute gonna have to just tell her that's what it's gonna
18:11be would you ever go to counseling with uh cody and robin to try to fix anything like no i don't like
18:15them yeah oh no why why there's no point of that no why would i need to do that now that we really know
18:26all these things that how you feel i think it's going to be so much easier for you just to move
18:31on and get past everything and really release you know like a spiritual release is not something i've
18:36really thought about but when mary told me she was got that she had gotten one i'm like oh i could
18:43i think for a long time over at least the first couple years i'm like i don't want to think about
18:46it and now i'm kind of like okay what do i need to do here to to like finally really put this like end
18:51this like completely obviously there's no legal marriage and so there's no legal divorce like you
18:56don't have to get a divorce but a spiritual release is essentially being released from the spiritual
19:01covenant you made to be married i i just need to make sure all the little pieces are in place
19:07but now i'm like you know i think it's time to kind of really cut all those ties with cody
19:12so that's become it's become more of a a thing in my brain now because i don't i want to cut that final
19:17tie whether i imagine that it's there or i feel that it's there whatever i just maybe need to
19:23make sure and cut all the ties i don't want to like you know so what if my religion is right and
19:28i wake up and i'm in heaven and i'm married to him i'm like oh hell i'm not having that happen
19:31do you know what i mean so she's gonna be like send me back send me back i don't want to be married
19:37tim anymore you know what i mean it's a fairly legal club kind of like polygamy yeah urban street's
19:48a different animal at night for sure this is janelle out of the shell yeah it's janelle in the wild
19:53my girlfriends are like we should throw beads we should dance and i'm like i don't know
20:02you know i was raised in such a conservative culture
20:05we didn't drink we didn't smoke no premarital sex nothing it was so conservative and here we
20:10are basically in new orleans participating kind of in like mardi gras like which is really fun a big party
20:20you're bolder in the dark right oh here we go there's so many people down there
20:27look at all your people
20:29so this was really a fun experience i'm like oh there's a lot for me to still experience in this
20:54world
21:00i was so hurt so angry that i took a knife and i swung it so hard i cut myself i just want to be more
21:08benevolent and i'm not i'm kind of a i don't want to say
21:11asshole but i'm like i have asshole potential you can be rough for sure
21:30there you go like i've never opened a wine bottle before and i know you have
21:34amber and i got to vegas we've got a little charcuterie a little wine our favorite things so
21:41good conversation good friend this is awesome cheers to finding our soul mate finding your soul
21:48mate i'm rooting for you tonight i know i mean you know i know i'm going we all need to find our
21:53soul mates that's true okay to finding our soul mate okay and it doesn't have to be tonight it's
21:57just whatever just finding our soul mates but sometime soon because freaking man i'm tired of
22:01waiting okay one two three cheers now let's let's go find our soul mate i don't look at myself as being
22:12incomplete if i don't have a partner my partner will just add to the amazingness that i already am
22:22mayor yeah question yeah what if the guy that you likes name is cody what yeah what what is the guy
22:33that you like tonight his name is cody how do you feel about that i basically just rolled my eyes at you
22:41and looked away i mean i kind of rolled my eyes when i asked it there's there's a few names that i think
22:47i would just pass on and that is one of them what are the other names christine's husband
22:52david i feel like that would be really weird yeah you know what i mean i mean it's great for christine
22:58i am so happy for her that she has a david and for that reason i cannot what if he wants to try
23:05polygamy no i'm not interested in polygamy i i'm i've done that and i don't want to do it
23:11so like if you matched with somebody and you got to the end and like that you guys were totally vibing
23:15and you found out that they were polygamists like he actually had wives yeah no no 100 no
23:22i have had men kind of joke about like oh i get a bunch of women no not interested in you when we
23:30started it like when cody and i got married it was about like it was part of our belief structure
23:34that's what i believe that's what i thought was right for me you know yeah and i don't have that
23:40belief anymore i didn't choose polygamy just for the sex or or the lack thereof either way
23:51but in all seriousness though like i chose it for a purpose there was the religious background i was
23:59fully invested in cody and my sister wives and our family like there was a purpose to it i don't
24:06believe that anymore maybe i'll get to heaven and find out that i was wrong maybe i won't get to
24:12heaven at all i don't even know but it's not something that i believe in or subscribe to anymore
24:19so no i'm not choosing to live polygamy again okay so what are you hoping for um tonight yeah um
24:29i'm not looking for a feeling so you're looking for a friend well i mean i want more than you're looking
24:34for a friend that you're physically attracted to i really want somebody who's going to cheer me on in
24:40all my endeavors like i just really want just a very grounded hey we can talk we laugh we communicate
24:48that's what i'm looking for are you okay with this tonight are you good are you comfortable yeah i think
24:54i'm worried why are you worried because i think there are going to be red flags we're here we're invested
25:01and also i don't know what to expect with it and i am a little bit nervous
25:07do you need wine right now yeah let's do wine are you
25:13yeah you're good do you need more yeah let's do more
25:16okay
25:28sometimes i feel like if i weigh in too fast on some of his creative ideas
25:32i can influence it in a negative way or a positive way this specifically would be something that cody
25:38would need to own a hundred million thousand percent i don't think anytime someone wants to say
25:46i'm sorry for x y and z to someone else if they feel like they've hurt them is wrong i don't want to
25:55apologize for what i've been accused of i want to apologize for what i know i've done right i i don't
26:02know what kind of order when i will do this i don't know how long it'll take me to do it these
26:08apologies are an obligation to my conscience i don't know if we'll get healing out of it i can hope we
26:13would the thing i'm feeling is kind of like i've got a pilgrimage so is there anything in you like
26:21specifically you're sort of thinking about as far as things you want to mention
26:26one thing that i was very serious about when i said it yeah but then i felt really like it was
26:36really crappy to say a year or two later was that i never loved him when you said that it it shook
26:47me hard did you feel betrayed by it or something it took me a minute i was like do i not know who he
26:53is did i was i deceived because it was a really big deal to me when i was growing up you'd see it
27:01all the time in our church where there would be a man with multiple wives and there would be this like
27:09a wife that was just absolutely unloved you know and like just the devastation of a woman trying to
27:18sit there and like be in a marriage where not only is she sharing her husband and going through that
27:26whole process of sharing all the resources and sharing his love and time and attention but also
27:33just completely not being considered and not loving thought taken care of and that's wrong
27:39so when you said i never loved them
27:47that wasn't in fact it makes me sad to think that i said it
27:53it was one of the things that was one of the things that made me fall in love with you
27:58so when you said it i was just like what the hell
28:02he's also talking about apologizing for saying he never loved them and i was like hallelujah thank you
28:09jesus because i'm just i
28:14what yeah just did not it was not the truth that i knew and i know it wasn't the truth that they knew
28:23and i just felt really bad for the kids and going oh you have no idea the kind of pain you're causing
28:27right here i was so hurt so angry that i took a knife and i swung it so hard i cut myself
28:35i just want to be more benevolent and i'm not i'm kind of a i don't want to say
28:42asshole but i'm like i have asshole potential you could be you can be rough for sure i do
28:48understand wanting more peace i'm glad you like it yeah i think it has a potential of being really really
28:55beautiful there's a possibility that my apology would be like not only not accepted but completely
29:06rejected and i'm going to be a bulldozer not in the sense of being unkind but in the sense of not
29:15being taken off my track no matter what the pushback is and there could be some serious pushback
29:29so now that this property is done your dad reached out to me he's like i want to come out and go to
29:32dinner with you and i'm like why it's do you think you want something or you think he wants to extend
29:37the auburn yeah i don't know like it was so strange and i'm glad it came after the property deal
29:43i'm glad that's all done it sounds like um an emotional like he's not in your life anymore so
29:48he now wants to put himself back in your life
29:59does anybody else want more coffee i could probably do like a half a cup
30:03okay okay you two out out out out wow excuse me try that again are you seven going on eight or what
30:17um so now that this property is done your dad reached out to me he's like i want to come out to
30:24raleigh and go to dinner with you and i'm like why
30:26um he said i just want to extend the olive branch i don't know what he wants but it's
30:34do you think he wants something or do you think he wants to extend the orange
30:37yeah i don't know like it was so strange and i'm glad it came after the property deal i'm glad that's
30:43all done yeah you know what i mean it sounds like um an emotional like he's not in your life anymore so
30:49he now wants to put himself back in your life i suspect it has something to do with the family and the
30:54kids but i'm like you don't need me i'm we're not friends i'm not going to facilitate for you you
31:00know what i mean so there is a lot in the family that could be better the family unit like i mean
31:07families can be apart but still have cohesion like parents can split it would be a lot for cody to sort
31:15of make amends but i don't know we'll see what he says do you think for you there would ever be
31:24i think there could be forgiveness i mean it seems so far out there for him to have a relationship
31:32with you guys again i am open to like reconciliation forgiveness and disclosure but if he ever wanted
31:40to be let back into our lives um there would need to be a pattern of consistency that's true well is
31:48there something that you hope will come of the relationship no i don't know just like it's like
31:52a amicable no like i mean like i think we're pretty when we have to work together like dealt because
31:56like we had to deal quite a bit with each other the last couple weeks before the property settled
32:01down did you have to or was that just like i was proactively trying to keep it managed keep it
32:06moving along and he did call me a couple of times and he called the check on me on the anniversary of
32:11garrison's death and on his birthday he called the check on me and i actually thought about calling him
32:15but i'm like i don't it's not weird i don't know but it was fine like it was all fine so
32:21maybe he does just want to extend it all over branch yeah maybe so he can walk you down the aisle
32:26on your next wedding yeah no no i i don't really have much desire to see robin but i mean i guess i
32:36could go to dinner with him sure like someone can look great on paper and be completely emotionally
32:46unavailable i just don't want to deal with somebody that doesn't have the emotional maturity
32:51and that's really hard to know honestly there's some stuff that i thought that i had dealt with
32:56enough yeah um after my divorce and then when you go back into a relationship you realize oh maybe i
33:04haven't dealt with that right what i thought so i walked out of my marriage very much and like that's
33:09how i operated was like anxious attachment right i like to think that i'm more secure now and can
33:14identify those red flags now but i don't know well how do you know and then i get attached and so yeah
33:22i'm an all-in person you know this about me i am too i know you are we're one one man women yeah
33:31i'm the type of person that my very first instinct is to believe the words that come out of your mouth
33:37but also i've had you know this experience of many many years of not being i mean basically i would say
33:49i was lied to i would i would say i was lied to like i never want to be like i need to have somebody
33:55and i don't feel like i'm i don't got that place at all no there's been time between your divorce
34:03and stuff shows that like you're not just looking for anybody no i want a man who understands that it
34:10is a privilege to be in my space and i'm worthy of being treated well by him my biggest my biggest
34:20problem with the way that cody handled our separation was that he didn't communicate it with me
34:29and then when he did communicate it he said it was all a lie
34:31so either way my whole life was a lie cheers to finding men that are okay with having some freaking
34:41self-respect yeah for sure so moving forward into finding a potential relationship like that's one
34:49of the things that i'm like okay is this you is this real you are you going to change your mind later
34:54are you going to lie about it later that was like a 30-year experience of was it a lie was it not a lie
35:01like what Yes i'm going to lie about it and when i look in the mirror i see somebody who's
35:19definitely more confident than i have been in a really long time is this a vegas thing or what
35:24that's the vegas funhouse thing there's still parts of me that kind of fight the
35:31imposter syndrome and it's like am i am i worthy of this am i good enough for this am i going to be
35:38chosen or selected or does anybody care what i say and i'm not even speaking just dating
35:43right but like do people want to hear what i say do i have something valuable to offer damn right
35:49you do this is so dumb all right well okay okay that was fine okay we had a good time
36:01i'm in north carolina right now i'm traveling here to meet with janelle there's been in the
36:21past so much animosity that i'm just like hey it's time to literally bury the hatchet i am here to
36:30apologize i haven't reached out to christine or mary yet my heart isn't soft enough to actually
36:37apologize to them yet the devil gets in your head you know hey father in heaven i need some help here
36:43because me this jack wagon i'm just an asshole to most people and i really don't want to do that
36:50anymore i never thought i was until i got divorced i thought everybody liked me and then when you know
36:57the three people you thought you were the superhero for says you're an asshole what are you talking
37:04about you're the asshole it's an effort to just say have a great i don't even know how to say it
37:13i don't even know what to say really i was emotionally in the state of a 12 year old i guess when
37:24the breakups happen and so instead of going live your best life and be at peace
37:30i was really really angry and with more of an attitude of why are you
37:39interrupting and destroying my peace and that wasn't the right attitude to have
37:44the reason i'm going to janelle first is simply because there's so much less toxicity there's so much
37:49less for me to forgive it's easier for me to go ask forgiveness
37:58i know this was wrong what i did and i know this was wrong what i did and i know this was wrong what
38:03i did and i apologize because i i hurt you and that for that i wish i had never done that
38:13i'm on the right path i have something that i think is a righteous course
38:18i'm looking forward to janelle coming here and looking forward to laying it all out bare with what
38:29i've done next time on sister wives are you guys ready to find love well yes actually i know
38:41that these days with dating it's very complicated it's not what it used to be i feel
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