Europe Today: El Comisario de Energía de la UE explica la eliminación total de las importaciones de gas ruso
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00:30...to convince the Belgian government to come on board with the reparations loan for Ukraine.
00:35The Belgian Prime Minister fears that Euroclear, the clearinghouse that holds most of the frozen Russian assets,
00:41would bear the brunt of any Russian legal actions in the future.
00:44This, as US envoys hold talks with Ukrainian negotiators for their third time in two weeks.
00:50That's in Florida.
00:51For more on what exactly we need to know, I'm joined here in the studio by your news Ukraine correspondent, Sasha Vakilina.
00:57Good morning, Sasha. Lovely to see you here.
01:00What should we expect from these talks in Florida?
01:02I'm afraid to say, but I really don't have any hope that they will lead to anything.
01:05There might be some progress there, because what we know is that the Ukrainian negotiators,
01:09specifically the head of Ukraine's Security and Defense Council, Rostem Omerov, they did go to Florida.
01:14Why?
01:14This is their way of kind of getting an update from Steve Witkoff, Trump's envoy,
01:19after his meeting with Vladimir Putin earlier this week in Moscow.
01:22And this is what Vladimir Zelensky, Ukraine's president, had to say about the content of that meeting in Florida.
01:28Today, Ukrainian representative will continue talks in the United States with President Trump's team.
01:41Our task now is to obtain full information about what was said in Russia,
01:46what other reasons Putin found to prolong the war and to put pressure on Ukraine,
01:50on us, on our independence.
01:52I've been told by some sources close to the negotiations that one of the biggest issues is the fact that the Americans seem to be on board
02:02when it comes to Ukraine's sovereignty, but not necessarily Ukraine's territorial integrity.
02:07And, of course, these two aspects are going hand in hand.
02:10It's like one thing for Ukraine and for Europe, but not necessarily for the United States.
02:14And another confirmation on the fact that this is a big issue is coming from this reported leaked call
02:20where President Macron reportedly said that there is a possibility that the U.S. will betray Ukraine on territory.
02:27So the Europeans, of course, very concerned.
02:28And today we're seeing emergency talks.
02:31Friedrich Merz, the German chancellor, is in town.
02:32He'll be dining with Barthe Weaver, the Belgian prime minister, and Ursula von der Leyen, the commission president.
02:38Will they not chew over their Belgian freaks or choke on them?
02:40Because they're clearly not going to get an agreement on the frozen assets.
02:43Certainly. Friday night Brussels, that's the definition of emergency talks, right?
02:48And we do know that Merz reportedly had to cancel his trip to Oslo to be here.
02:51So this is really those last efforts and attempts to convince the Belgian prime minister to get on board with that.
02:58European Council President Kosta, he had a call with Zelensky yesterday,
03:02and he said that the decision on securing Ukraine financing will need to be taken before the summit.
03:08And the summit is coming, of course, on the 18th and 19th of December.
03:10But the time is indeed running out for that one.
03:13And meanwhile, of course, Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, is in India observing the whole situation from there.
03:18He is.
03:19And he's been also issuing more threats, specifically threats towards Europe from India.
03:24He said that it was Europe's fault that Russia started its full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
03:29He also commented a little bit on his meeting with Witkoff, saying that it lasted for five hours and that he was kind of getting tired of such a long meeting.
03:37And, of course, he issued once again the threats that Russia is ready for war with Europe, saying they're not going for it, but it is ready.
03:47And he said there will be nobody to negotiate with from Europe if they start to do anything.
03:52Open threats are coming from Moscow, from the Kremlin, ever since the beginning of this week, May.
03:56OK, Sascha Vekalina, thank you so much for that update here on Europe Today.
04:00But now, coming up, we'll be joined by Dan Jorgensen.
04:04He's the Danish politician from the Social Democrats, who's held several major national and European roles.
04:11And since 2024, he's been the EU Commissioner for Energy and Housing, focusing on trying to wean the European Union off its addiction to Russian gas.
04:21Commissioner Jorgensen, welcome to Europe Today.
04:23Thank you.
04:24Lovely to have you with us this Friday.
04:25Now, of course, there was a big historic deal announced this week that the EU will fully phase out Russian gas imports by 2028.
04:33Tell us more.
04:35So, yeah, basically, we've been in a very uncomfortable situation being dependent on energy from Russia.
04:43Obviously, it's not a nice thing to be dependent on energy from anybody, especially not from an enemy.
04:48Completely addicted, yeah.
04:49On the other hand, also, we have to acknowledge that buying energy from Russia has also had other effects.
04:57It has helped indirectly finance the war in Ukraine.
05:01So why did it take you so long?
05:03Yeah, so I used to be a member of the Council as an energy minister from Denmark, and I was one of the ministers that argued from 22 that we needed to stop this as soon as possible.
05:13The reason why it hasn't been possible is that, unfortunately, not all countries agreed, because normally you would do this via sanctions, and then you can do it fast.
05:21But it demands unanimity, and we haven't had that support, unfortunately.
05:26So what this new commission decided was that, okay, we will choose another way to do it.
05:31So instead of using sanctions, we have used the prohibition, so we will actually ban the gas.
05:36This has another advantage also, which is that when there is a peace, which we hope there will be soon, that will not mean that we will then just start buying gas again.
05:46This will stand also after a peace agreement, which I think is good, because we should never repeat the mistake of becoming dependent on Russia again.
05:53And what will the decision mean now for our viewers? Will their energy bills go up or down now this winter?
05:58No, we are ready for this decision.
06:00So we have brought down our consumption of gas in Europe overall, which is one of the reasons why we can do this without it leading to spikes in prices.
06:10But we are also working very hard with the countries that will be most affected to make sure that they have alternatives.
06:18But what about countries that are not on board with this phase-out?
06:21I'm thinking of Hungary, Slovakia.
06:23We saw Viktor Orban, the Hungarian prime minister, just recently in Moscow.
06:26He said he will take you to court for this decision.
06:28Well, to be honest, I don't really understand these countries.
06:33I think we should stand together shoulder by shoulder against Putin to help our friends in Ukraine.
06:42But OK, this is the way it is.
06:43We will still help the populations of Slovakia and Hungary, even if the governments do not support this legislation,
06:51to make sure that also the citizens in these countries, of course, have access to cheap energy.
06:56So the devil will be in the details of this deal.
06:58I mean, one thing is launching the historic deal this week, the announcement, and then, of course, implementing will be key.
07:04We've worked very hard on this for quite a long time.
07:07So it is something that is happening gradually, and it is something that we can do in a way that will not have big negative effects.
07:15It will, on the contrary, have a lot of positive effects, which is that we will no longer be able or have to live with being blackmailed by Russia.
07:24Russia has blackmailed certain countries in the European Union.
07:29We've seen Putin weaponize energy against us.
07:33That, of course, is not a situation that is sustainable for Europe.
07:37So this is very, very good news, I think, for the European Union.
07:40And EU regulators will be kept busy making sure there's no circumvention here as well.
07:44That's very true.
07:45We need to be very strict in the way that we control this.
07:49It's also true that people have said, well, OK, this is the gas, and that's the most important thing.
07:55But what about the oil?
07:56Because there's also still some oil being imported in Europe.
08:00And also here we have said that needs to stop.
08:03So that's on your plate for next year.
08:04I will put forward very soon a legislative proposal to make that happen also.
08:10So in 2022, we got 45% of our gas from Russia.
08:13Now we get just over 10%, and that will go away completely.
08:17We got 27% of our oil in 2022 from Russia.
08:20Now we get 2% or 3%.
08:21So it's not a big amount, but still, that needs to go away completely also.
08:26And meanwhile, of course, you are diversifying to make sure that we don't run out as well here.
08:29And you're Dan Jorgensen, Commissioner there for Housing and Energy.
08:33Thank you so much for being our guest on Europe Today.
08:36And as I said, of course, Dan Jorgensen is also responsible for housing.
08:39And it's the first time, in fact, Brussels appoints a commissioner in charge of housing.
08:44And with the picture across Europe pretty dire, it is a huge responsibility for the commissioner.
08:48Jakob Janis reports.
08:52Dear diary, living with your parents has its perks.
08:56Free laundry, zero rent and dinner is always on the table.
08:59It's fun when you are 15, but is it still fun when you are 35?
09:06For a record number of Europeans, the mom and dad's hotel isn't a luxury.
09:12It is an economic necessity.
09:14The latest data shows the average European now leaves home at the age of 26.
09:23But statistics lie.
09:25If you live in Finland, you are likely independent by the age of 21.
09:30But in Croatia, you are stuck in your childhood bedroom until you are over 30.
09:35It is the same story in Spain, Greece, Italy and Slovakia.
09:40And just look at these numbers.
09:43Just in last five years, rents in Lisbon exploded by 81%.
09:48Prague's jumped by 73%.
09:51That is almost an extra rent on top of your monthly rent.
09:56And even a bit more affordable cities like Warsaw are now becoming out of reach.
10:01Finally, it is fine to rebel in your teens.
10:05But what happens if you can't escape that stage?
10:08Research suggests this crisis is eroding support for the center-left and fueling anti-establishment sentiment.
10:17Housing is technically a national issue and the EU isn't supposed to touch it.
10:23But the pressure is so high, Ursula von der Leyen appointed the first ever commissioner for housing to intervene.
10:31But let's be real.
10:33Bureaucracy moves slow and rents move fast.
10:36Anyway, I got to go.
10:39My mum is calling me for dinner.
10:41And yes, I already washed my hands.
10:48Jakob Janis there with his daily dose of humor, but also hard facts on a very serious topic.
10:54And now moving on to another story that's turning our heads here at Euronews in Brussels.
10:59And that is the unrest in Bulgaria.
11:01After days of protests across the country, the government has put its controversial 2026 budget plan on hold.
11:09To hear what exactly is going on and what it means for the stability of the country that will actually be joining the Eurozone next January.
11:16We can cross over now to Sofia and speak to Raya Stoyanova.
11:19That's Euronews' Bulgaria correspondent who's live for us this morning just outside the Bulgarian parliament.
11:25Good morning.
11:26Thank you so much for joining us.
11:27Just tell us, are these protests against the budget or just against the government?
11:31Good morning.
11:35Let me start with the fact that there is a lot of political tension right now in Bulgaria.
11:41Just yesterday, there were a few protests all over the country here in the capital.
11:47Protesters were outside of the Ministry of Interior.
11:51They wanted the resignation of the minister.
11:53But where did it all start?
11:55On Monday, there was one of the largest demonstrations here in front of the Bulgarian parliament.
12:03People went out on the street to express their dissatisfaction with the budget plan for next year.
12:09But the frustration grew and they started demanding the resignation of the government.
12:15And what is happening right now?
12:17The government is making a new budget plan for next year.
12:21However, there are still planned protests for next week.
12:24But what are the protesters demanding?
12:28Let us hear now.
12:31We protest against this fundamental budget because it threatens to seriously harm a large portion of working Bulgarians.
12:38The middle class.
12:39This is unacceptable.
12:41We need serious reforms.
12:44A budget for over 100 billion euros to be distributed during the parliamentary recess is simply scandalous.
12:51Nothing that could have support the people protesting outside.
12:56Small, medium and micro businesses or NGOs was approved.
13:00Everything was rejected by the overwhelming majority that currently dominates the parliament.
13:04So Bulgarians, they're furious with both the government and the budget proposals.
13:10And of course, as I mentioned earlier, Raya, Bulgaria will be joining the Eurozone next January.
13:15That often can lead to sharp inflation.
13:17Are people also worried about that transition?
13:19Yes, in just 26 days, we are going to join the Eurozone and become a full member of the European family.
13:29This process now is irreversible.
13:31Many experts in Bulgaria say that this is one of the best decisions for our economy.
13:38However, most people are still afraid because of the higher prices that will come with the Euro.
13:45The problem is that those fears are pushed by some of the political figures in Bulgaria,
13:52such as the president and some of the nationalist parties in Bulgaria.
13:57So one of the other problems is that if the budget for next year isn't ready on time,
14:05we will enter the Eurozone with our old budget.
14:09So to sum up, right now there is a lot of political tension.
14:12And just a few minutes from now, right here in the parliament behind me,
14:17the opposition will submit a vote of no confidence against the cabinet.
14:22What will happen, we'll expect to see.
14:24OK, well, we'll keep a very close eye on that, Raya Stoyanova.
14:29Thank you so much, our correspondent there in Bulgaria.
14:32Well, this does bring this edition of Europe Today to an end.
14:35Stay with us, though, here on Euronews for more news and analysis.
14:39And we'll be back on Monday morning with a new edition.
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