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00:00Good morning, it is Monday the 1st of December, I'm Maeve McMahan and this is Europe Today,
00:21Euronews' daily live fix of European news and analysis.
00:26Coming up today, all eyes on Florida. One week after the high-stake talks in Geneva to end
00:32the war in Ukraine, top American officials met with the Ukrainian delegation yesterday
00:37in Mar-a-Lago. This as a corruption scandal hit Kyiv, leading to the resignation of President
00:43Zelensky's right-hand man, Andrew Yermak. To break it all down, I'm joined here in the
00:47studio by Euronews' Ukraine correspondent, Sasha Vakilina. Good morning, Sasha. Great to have
00:52you with us.
00:53So we heard there was some progress in Florida, but still more needs to be done. What are
00:57the sticking points?
00:58The main sticking points have not changed. And first and foremost, this will be regarding
01:02the territorial concessions. Because what we're hearing at this stage is that it's only Ukraine
01:06that's being asked to cede any territories or to accept, to admit and agree to a bigger compromise.
01:11We've heard from Donald Trump himself a week ago when he said the concession from Russia
01:16is that Russia stops fighting, but nothing about the territories. Interestingly, we did
01:20see Mark Rubio now in Florida taking a bigger role. And let's listen to what he had to say
01:24about it.
01:25It's not just about the terms that ends fighting. It's about also the terms that set up Ukraine for
01:31long-term prosperity. I thought we started laying the groundwork for that, most certainly in Geneva.
01:35I think we continued that work in our communications throughout the week. I think we built on that
01:40again today. But there's more work to be done. This is delicate. It's complicated. There are a lot
01:44of moving parts. And obviously, there's another party involved here that they'll have to be a part
01:48of the equation. And that'll continue later this week when Mr. Woodcock travels to Moscow.
01:53We worked. We already had a successful meeting in Geneva. And today, we continue this success. So,
02:00at the moment, this meeting was productive and successful. On the later stages, hopefully,
02:07we'll keep you updated.
02:08Well, the most productive and indeed the most successful part of that meeting, Maeve, is that
02:14the fact that it actually took place, which means that the diplomatic process continues there.
02:18And indeed, we're seeing them there side by side. And of course, President Macron will be hosting
02:23President Zelensky today in Paris. What are you looking out for in those meetings?
02:27It's interesting. This is the situation when Ukraine is trying to somehow balance and join
02:33the Europeans. We might see the repetition of what happened after the Alaska summit between Donald Trump
02:38and Vladimir Putin when we saw Zelensky coming to Brussels and then traveling to Washington with
02:42the Europeans so that they could represent this joint position of the interests of Ukraine,
02:47but also Europe. Because, of course, in the very first version of the so-called 28-point plan that
02:53was leaked and everybody saw, the European position was not represented. And later, some of the Europe's
02:59most important points were actually incorporated by Kyiv and they are now represented by Kyiv. So,
03:04they are trying to balance this position to represent all of it together.
03:08And meanwhile, Steve Whitcoff, Trump's envoy, will be heading to Moscow tomorrow. What do you expect from
03:13those talks? And how do Ukrainians feel about this? There are going to be interesting meetings taking
03:18place in Moscow this week. China's foreign ministries will have official meetings today
03:26and tomorrow. Whitcoff is indeed on his way to Moscow. He will try to negotiate first with Putin's
03:33aid. That would probably be Ushakov and Kirill Dmitryov. But also, allegedly, tomorrow he's about to meet
03:38with Putin. Now, what Moscow wants out of it is not only their position to be represented. What Vladimir
03:43Putin wants now, first and foremost, is a one-on-one meeting with Donald Trump. It is unclear when it's
03:49going to happen. You remember the Budapest summit was cancelled because there were no compromise
03:55coming from Moscow. Now, there are two interesting things here. On one hand, we do have Volodymyr Zelenskyy,
04:00the president of Ukraine, expecting to have a meeting with Donald Trump anytime soon, initially planned by
04:05the end of November. Well, that's gone. And also, at the same time, there is an expected meeting very
04:11much pushed for by Moscow for Putin to meet with Trump one-on-one without Zelenskyy.
04:17Okay, Sasha Vakalina, thank you so much for all those details. And for more of Sasha's reporting,
04:20you can, of course, take a look at yournews.com. But staying on that story, coming up, we'll be joined
04:26by General Ben Hodges, a former commanding general of the US Army Europe and an infantry officer who served
04:33in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Since retirement back in 2018, Ben Hodges has now become a leading
04:39analyst and author on European defence and security. Ben, welcome to Europe Today. It's so lovely to
04:45have you with us, General.
04:46Thank you for the privilege.
04:48Look, how realistic, in your view, are the current efforts to bring Russia and Ukraine to the same table?
04:54Well, I think it's sad for me to say this, but I think Europe and Ukraine, including Ukraine,
05:04knows that the United States has a primary interest, which is business with Russia after this is all
05:09concluded. With the revelations of this past week about what Mr. Whitcoff was doing and Jared Kushner
05:16with their Russian colleagues. I think that Europe is slowly waking to the realization that they cannot
05:24count on the US to be a fair interlocutor here, and that the outcome, if it goes the way that Mr.
05:32Whitcoff and Jared Kushner wanted to go with the Russians, is going to be a massive problem for Europe,
05:39because it will be such an unsatisfactory outcome for Ukraine that I think we'll see millions more
05:44Ukrainian refugees heading into Central and Western Europe.
05:48So you think President Trump has no empathy here for Ukrainians or what's happening on the ground,
05:52but it's purely just business interests?
05:55Absolutely. I will give him credit for being sincere when he says he wants the killing to stop.
06:01The problem is the administration's approach has always been doomed from the start because they
06:09didn't care about the origin. They didn't care about the history or the geography involved.
06:14And in fact, approached it as a massive real estate deal. So, I mean, Secretary Rubio,
06:19who I really expected much more from him, said in the beginning, Ukraine, you're going to have to
06:24give up some territory here before they even started. And Secretary Rubio, he's meant to be in Brussels
06:30this week for important NATO talks, but he's skipping that meeting. Is that unusual?
06:33It is unusual, but that's part of the problem. The United States has, under this administration,
06:43has made a decision, I think, or prioritization of Western Hemisphere, Indo-Pacific region,
06:52probably Middle East, and then Europe is number four. And I think that despite the best efforts of
06:58many European countries to fulfill their responsibilities and to take on more of the
07:04responsibilities, the United States really sees Europe as inconsequential, except maybe for some
07:11business purposes. So this is important. And it pains me to say that after being a NATO officer and
07:17our U.S. Army officer for all these years, but Ukraine and Europe together are going to have to,
07:23and by the way, they do have the capability. If you add together the industry, the wealth,
07:28the populations, the technologies, there's no reason that Europe, including Ukraine,
07:34cannot stop Russia. What they lack is the self-confidence and the political will.
07:39And now we're seeing Ukrainians being pressured into conceding territory,
07:43which is, of course, a red line for them. How do you think this war will end?
07:47Well, Ukrainians are not going to do this. I mean, there's no way they can do this,
07:52because this is not dirt. These are people. There are four million Ukrainians that live in these
07:58occupied territories or the parts of Ukraine that the administration is pressing them to give up.
08:04And anybody that knows anything about Russia knows that this is not going to be the end,
08:09that Russia is not going to say, OK, we're good. We don't want anything else. Nobody seriously believes
08:14that. And so the Ukrainians, I think. And by the way, one of the false premises of this whole thing
08:21is that Ukraine is losing the war. That's just not the case. And after 11 years, Russia still only
08:27occupies 20 percent of Ukraine with all the advantages. We see reports every day about Russia's
08:34wartime economy is struggling. Their great railroad, which is an essential part of Russia's ability to
08:40do what it does, is in deep trouble. And now some of the oblasts are not even able to pay these famous
08:49bonuses to Russian soldiers. So I think Ukrainians can see that better than we can.
08:55And just briefly, the corruption scandal that's hit President Zelensky's cabinet,
08:59is this overshadowing a little bit of the peace talks or could damage his credibility? What do you think?
09:03Well, it certainly is getting a lot of attention. But what's what's not getting attention is that
09:09even in a country that has is at war, that they still had their anti-corruption efforts underway.
09:16They launched a raid on Yermak's house and he's gone. So I think other some other countries in this
09:23discussion could follow that example. And just briefly, we saw President Trump this weekend
09:27calling to close the skies over Venezuela. Do you think another war is looming or is this just
09:32political posturing? Well, I think they would prefer to be able to that Maduro would step down
09:38and then the U.S. would gain access to Venezuelan oil and other things. And there's no other leaders
09:45in South America, by the way, that are clamoring to protect Maduro or Venezuela. But the point is,
09:50I think the administration has not been entirely clear about what the strategic objectives are.
09:56And this is where the Congress really has to step in.
09:59Okay. General Ben Hodges, thank you so much for speaking to us here on Europe Today. We'll have
10:03you on again very soon. But now, moving on, have you heard about the squabbles here in Brussels
10:09between the airline industry, EU capitals and consumer rights groups over better protection
10:14and compensation for us when we're flying with European airlines? Ida Sanchez has been taking a look.
10:19There's nothing more tedious than waiting at the airport due to a flight delay.
10:33Or perhaps there is the negotiations to reform the EU's passenger rights law which have been
10:39stalled for a decade. The main sticking point, compensation for delayed flights. The EU is
10:46discussing giving passengers more money when their flight is delayed by three hours or more. But the
10:53airlines are refusing and also want the threshold to be increased from three to five hours. Airlines
11:00say the changes being discussed would increase their costs by 40 percent every year. That cost would be
11:06passed on to passengers, making flights even more expensive. But consumer associations think that
11:13raising the compensation threshold would see 60 percent of passengers losing out on compensation.
11:19The situation is so tense that airlines have asked to hold the negotiations. For now,
11:26talks between EU institutions continue.
11:28And fingers crossed, a deal is sealed before the Christmas break here in Europe, when millions of us
11:40will be travelling through European airports trying to get home to spend time with family. As one thing
11:45is sure, flight delays can lead to excessive doom scrolling on social media sites. Our reporter
11:51Jacob Yanis has been taking a look at how social media addiction is keeping European politicians up at night.
11:57It was the topic over the weekend for many families in Europe. We are in the middle of a cognitive war,
12:08said President Macron, and he wasn't far off. In China, the version of TikTok for kids shows science
12:16experiments and shuts off after a strict 40 minutes. In Europe, the same app serves up virtual dances and
12:24content often described as brain rot. Now Europe is striking back. Last week, the European Parliament
12:34approved by a large majority a proposal calling for a ban on social media for teens under 16. The reason?
12:42One in four miners now display smartphone use comparable to addiction. Is it in the content? Or is it in its
12:51manipulative designs like infinite scrolling and autoplay videos? Ursula von der Leyen is already taking notes.
13:01She confirmed she's watching Australia, which restricts platforms like TikTok for teenagers, for policy actions.
13:08But will the EU be limiting our online freedoms here? Well, we already regulate cigarettes to protect
13:17our lungs, don't we? Now we might ban scrolls to protect our minds from avoiding, in Macron's words,
13:24a digital wild west. Because if it is a cognitive war, we cannot afford to lose the next generation to an
13:33algorithm. Right, Alexa?
13:41Absolutely, Alexa. And that is also why the European Parliament wants to hold tech giants like Elon Musk
13:48and Mark Zuckerberg personally responsible for violating EU rules on protecting minors online.
13:53More on that story on Euronews.com or download our app for more.
13:57But that does conclude Monday's edition of Europe Today. Thank you so much for tuning in.
14:02We look forward to seeing you again tomorrow morning here on Euronews.
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