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Three lawyers have been referred to legal regulators after artificial intelligence was used to prepare a court document which a judge found contained incorrect citations. The case has raised concerns about how lawyers and litigants are using generative AI in their preparations, and how it might be affecting accuracy.

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00:00Solicitors have a, they're white-collar workers and generative AI tends to be seen as being
00:10something which is able to be in the sort of knowledge production business.
00:15So that's why it's seen as starting to encroach on what lawyers and other professionals do.
00:20OK, so to what extent is the use of AI already creeping into legal work?
00:26Oh, I think it's, it's being used quite frequently, but it's being used in a way which you might
00:35call law adjacent, which means it's being used for things like summarising documents or document
00:43drafting, maybe to get an overview of the law, but it's not being, or it shouldn't be used in
00:51relation to legal research, and in particular in relation to documents that are being put
00:56before the court.
00:57Yeah.
00:58And so what are the rules around the use of it in Australia?
01:01And I'm guessing there are different rules for each state and territory, so it can be
01:04pretty complicated.
01:05Well, I think the, the, the, the overarching approach is that lawyers have professional
01:13obligations.
01:14And one of the key obligations is you can't mislead the court.
01:18You've got a duty to the court and you need to be frank and honest with the court.
01:23So if you're putting forward law that doesn't exist, then you're effectively misleading the
01:30court as to the state of the law, the precedent that, that governs the way they should decide
01:35the case.
01:36And you simply can't do that.
01:38And is this recent incident, um, a bit of a, uh, yeah, a good example for the legal profession
01:46in, in terms of where this is at right now?
01:48I think it is a good example.
01:50Um, we, we've been undertaking some research and we've seen at least, uh, 10 other cases
01:56in Australia where lawyers have, uh, misused generative AI.
02:00But this particular example, I think is a good one in the sense that it sort of, um, brings
02:06home to lawyers that both solicitors and barristers have got a responsibility for making sure that
02:12what they put before the court is accurate.
02:14Uh, and so really the, the, the, the main point here is it's about verification.
02:20Uh, if you're going to use the generative AI tool, then you've got to make sure that you're
02:25checking and verifying the law that it's, uh, it's providing to.
02:30And are the laws around this adequate at the moment, or are the principles that you've
02:35outlined there enough to make it clear to everyone in the profession what the red lines are?
02:42So the, the courts, uh, in a number of jurisdictions have issued, uh, practice notes or guidelines,
02:48uh, as a way to try to help lawyers understand, I guess, partially what generative AI is and how
02:55it works, uh, to highlight the risks in the way that it works, and then to effectively
03:00remind them of their duties.
03:02And so that's having a, I guess, um, a good effect in terms of making people aware.
03:08But I think we still need further education.
03:11Uh, and that's really the challenge.
03:13It's, it's being able to get the information and the, and the knowledge, um, across to the
03:18entire profession.
03:19Yeah.
03:20And you're, so you're with this organisation, the Centre for the Future of the Legal
03:23Profession, is, is AI one of the most profound developments that there's been for the legal
03:30profession over the, over the last few decades?
03:33Uh, yes, in short.
03:36Um, certainly what we have found at the Centre is the, the sorts of questions that we get,
03:42um, and the interest in terms of, uh, where people would like to see research undertaken,
03:48um, has been heavily around, uh, artificial intelligence and in particular generative AI in
03:54the last, uh, 24 months.
03:56And that doesn't seem to be, um, uh, getting any less because the, the technology is continuing
04:03to develop.
04:04And as a result, lawyers are, I guess, still trying to sort of fill their way as to where
04:09it can be used, where it can't be used, and whether the technology is going to improve
04:15so that, uh, other uses are likely to become available.
04:19Do you expect we're going to see a significant reduction in the, the numbers of solicitors
04:25over, over the next five or 10 years, or you think that's overblown?
04:28I don't think we're going to see a significant number, um, uh, reduction in numbers, primarily
04:35because I, I think what we're starting to appreciate is that, uh, artificial intelligence works best
04:43when it's teamed with a human, with a legal practitioner.
04:48And so it's not like you're replacing, um, lawyers, you will change some of their functions,
04:54some of the roles that they perform.
04:56Uh, but, um, if there's, uh, if, if it's able to be more, if law is able to be more efficiently
05:03delivered, then what that might actually do is start to address our access to justice problem
05:09and actually mean that more people are able to afford to, um, get a lawyer or at least
05:14get some assistance, um, potentially from a generative AI tool, but more likely from a tool
05:21combined with a human lawyer.
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