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00:00Yeah, I heard it was messy.
00:02Wait, but why wouldn't she come?
00:04Dakota told me yesterday, she was like, I'm not coming tomorrow.
00:08If Dakota's coming.
00:10Is Dakota coming?
00:11We'll see.
00:14You guys, I lost my wedding ring.
00:16Is that like a sign?
00:17I have this one, but the one that Sydney made and all my bands, gone.
00:22Brett can sit next to me if no one wants to sit next to me.
00:25So you guys have big issue with Brett, is that what I need to understand here?
00:28I don't care to talk to him.
00:30I don't care to interact with him.
00:31Apparently, Demi is going out of her way to get a cease and desist.
00:34I think Demi and Brett specifically, they have more skeletons in their closet.
00:38And so if they can flip that narrative and talk badly about Jen, it covers them up.
00:43And it's so exhausting and so annoying.
00:48Welcome.
00:49What's going on?
00:50Are you okay?
00:52Yeah, great.
00:53Come on out with it.
00:54I mean, we will.
00:55We have all day for that.
00:56Yeah.
00:58Maybe use this as like an opportunity to get everything off of your chest.
01:06Maybe the fucker's not here.
01:08He's going to watch it, obviously.
01:09My stupid brain won't shut up.
01:11Like, I'm like getting ready.
01:11I'm like already heated.
01:13And I'm like, shut up.
01:14Dear Heavenly Father, we want to thank Thee for the opportunity we have to come together today.
01:28We pray that we can have the strength to stand by our own principles and our own values, as well as listen to those who may have differing opinions.
01:35And we say these things in the name of Jesus Christ.
01:37Amen.
01:37Amen.
01:38All right, you guys.
01:39Seeker Live, season three of Reunion.
01:44Gorgeous, gorgeous girls.
01:47Hi, Scott.
01:47Welcome to you.
01:48You look beautiful.
01:50You do, too.
01:51Is this your first hosting?
01:53No, I did Villa.
01:54So this is my second one.
01:55Oh, Reunion you hosted?
01:56Yeah.
01:57Okay, I didn't watch it for obvious reasons, but it wasn't because of you.
02:01Yeah, no, it's okay.
02:07I would love to hear your truth, Brett.
02:09Like, just tell us where you're coming from.
02:12The biggest problem I think I have with everybody is the knee-jerk reaction to Demi saying that she was a victim was to not believe her.
02:21The only reason I ever brought up you having sex with Marciano was because he told me that that's what happened.
02:26It didn't happen.
02:27He did tell us you guys kissed.
02:29So I'm hearing that.
02:30Yeah.
02:31False.
02:31There was not a kiss in the mouth.
02:33There was two ass grabs.
02:35If he actually assaulted you, why did you continue to talk to him?
02:39Just the classic case of victim blaming.
02:42Can we agree that she was, like, flirting and having long conversations and, like, building a relationship with a guy like she just met?
02:48She wasn't building a relationship with him.
02:50Not flirty at all.
02:51You would feel comfortable sending to another woman that you're swallowing cum?
02:56I'm not wired like you, bud.
02:57You should rewire yourself.
02:59Oh, yeah.
02:59That's disturbing.
03:00Okay.
03:01All right, little guy.
03:02It's the Lulu land, dude.
03:04What'd you say?
03:05You guys live in a different universe.
03:07I had no idea that pathological lying was contagious, but I guess it is.
03:13I don't even know why you're here.
03:14Just walk away.
03:15Everyone's being nice to you.
03:17People just talk shit behind your back because you're a shitty person.
03:20Hey, the feeling's neutral, dipshit, just so you know.
03:22Good.
03:22And it's so hard to take you seriously with your little munchkin voice.
03:25Oh, nice, bro.
03:26You're a big guy.
03:27I think that's a little steep, and I don't think anything good is going to come from talking like that.
03:31Let's just stop provoking each other just for a minute.
03:34Nice to finally meet you in person.
03:36I know.
03:36I've heard a lot, and people always haven't seen your show, but they're like, you remind me of Stasi.
03:43Obviously, I need to go watch it because I'm like, I want to see.
03:45And now I don't want you to see it because I just don't want you to judge me in my 20s.
03:49It's not who you are now, I'm sure.
03:51Oh, is it like a long time ago?
03:52Yeah, I was like 22 when I started it.
03:55I'm 37 now.
03:56I am your elder.
03:57The crazy thing to me, Zach, about you and Jen.
03:59Let's just watch this.
04:01I'm going to keep talking.
04:02I don't care to talk to you.
04:03I don't care to talk to you to me.
04:04I don't care to talk about any of that stuff.
04:06That's your story.
04:07The feeling's mutual, bud.
04:08So that's perfect.
04:09And I'm going to talk to you.
04:11I'm here.
04:12So we're going to talk.
04:14Welcome to the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, the season three reunion.
04:18I'm your host, Stasi Schroeder.
04:20And the holidays must have come early this year because we've got some gifts in store for you.
04:25We've decked the halls, lined the trees, and pulled out all the red carpets for our very merry Mormon wives
04:31to look back at a very memorable season.
04:33Ladies, I am dazzled.
04:36I'm delighted to be a part of this.
04:38Not just because I am a huge fan, but because, like, I have been exactly in your shoes.
04:44I've dated the bad boy, argued allegations, had the fallouts, and managed the fame.
04:49Last time this cast was on this stage, y'all had a medic in the back and a pregnancy suite in the dressing room.
04:57Since then, we've had some very exciting updates.
05:00Take a look.
05:01It's like 3.45 in the morning, and my water just broke.
05:06I'm nervous.
05:07I'm nervous.
05:16I'm so, so nervous.
05:18I was crazy.
05:20Hey!
05:21Mikaela, did you have underwear on when you were giving birth in a shower?
05:30No, honestly, I was so blacked out at that point, like I was in another planet.
05:35But no, it was a little monitoring strap.
05:37Oh, Macy and Mikaela, there's a conspiracy theory that you both named your daughters Charlotte.
05:44Is this true?
05:45We actually didn't.
05:46We didn't.
05:48That was a joke?
05:49It's a conspiracy.
05:49No.
05:50That's fine, yeah.
05:50Shut the fuck up.
05:52I always liked the name Lottie.
05:54It was like my one that I had throughout that I was like, okay, I'm sticking to this.
05:56Yeah.
05:57And I knew that Macy had Charlie on her list.
06:00I didn't even know what name she was naming her baby until like two days after birth.
06:03Wait, so you guys, neither of your child's name is Charlotte?
06:06No.
06:06No.
06:07I was God.
06:10Jen, you shared so much about like your struggles while you were pregnant.
06:15I think it's just like prenatal.
06:19Like depression.
06:20I think I first started feeling depressed when I realized what needed to change in my life
06:28and in my marriage.
06:29But it wasn't until after I found out I was pregnant that I truly hit rock bottom.
06:36I don't even know what happened yesterday.
06:38Oh, Jen.
06:40Oh my God.
06:41How are you feeling now, postpartum?
06:47Yeah.
06:47Um, sorry.
06:48Oh my gosh.
06:51I'm sorry.
06:53It's just crazy to see how far I've come.
06:57It's just me.
06:58Sorry.
06:58It's okay.
06:59Oh my gosh.
06:59A little penny with so much hair.
07:01A little penny with so much hair.
07:03It's just crazy to see, um, her now.
07:07I just love her so much.
07:09And she's like literally everything to me.
07:12I remember when I found out I was pregnant with her.
07:14I was genuinely disappointed because I felt like I wasn't ready, but everything happens
07:20for a reason.
07:21And she is like the reason why I'm healed to this day.
07:25Sorry.
07:26I'm sure people have reached out to you about, oh my gosh, thank you for being so open about
07:30what you went through because you are helping people right now.
07:33Oh yeah.
07:34Prenatal depression and postpartum is not talked about enough.
07:37Rewatching that just made me realize like, oh my gosh, like I can't believe I'm here and
07:41I'm in a better place and I feel like I'm genuinely happier and it's because of her.
07:47So I love that.
07:48Our babies always save us.
07:49They really do.
07:50That was not mature how we did it.
07:52Let's just talk.
07:53I genuinely want to know.
07:54Let's start over.
07:55Seriously.
07:55Where I am hurt and have feelings towards you and to me is, you know, the hell that I
08:01was going through.
08:01I came to you.
08:02Like I looked up to you as like this older, you know, person I could get advice from.
08:06And I felt like we talked and you gave me a lot of good advice.
08:09I'm sorry to hear that.
08:10I genuinely am.
08:11And I didn't know the extent to which Jen was hurting.
08:17Come here.
08:17Was that thought you were going to beat my ass?
08:19I'm not going to do that.
08:20Demi, how are you?
08:22I'm good.
08:22How are you?
08:23You're back in mom talk.
08:24I'm back.
08:25No, I was shocked.
08:26Whitney came back because Dancing with the Stars.
08:29She made it very clear.
08:31But I didn't know why you came back.
08:33I just felt like there was unfinished business.
08:35Yeah.
08:35And I felt like there was a pattern of self-sabotage.
08:39And watching myself back, I'm like, oh, there's my shadow.
08:42There's like the sides of me that need to be healed.
08:44And for me, I'm like, no, I deserve to be here.
08:46And I have, you know, a story to tell.
08:48So yeah, I'm excited.
08:50I'm excited to be back.
08:50Well, good to have you here.
08:53From breakups to makeups and a few massive shakeups, Mom Talk and Co. have kept things
08:59moving and kept us guessing.
09:00So tonight, we are leaving no stone unturned, no tea unspilled, and no Dunkin' refresher
09:07unstirred.
09:08We will be joined by a slew of surprise guests popping in as our fabulous Dunkin' Sip and Tellers
09:14at our Dunkin' Bev Bar.
09:15Let's get to the chase.
09:17Oh, no.
09:18Oh, no.
09:19Oh, no.
09:20Ladies.
09:22I love it.
09:24Mom Talk, how we doing?
09:28Apparently, I was unanimously requested by everyone here to be the bartender.
09:32That's a full-blown lie.
09:33Maybe Taylor.
09:35We got some drinks for everyone here, snacks.
09:38Just stay behind the bar.
09:39I don't need to get touched again.
09:40At least you used touched instead of chuffed.
09:43Taylor.
09:43Chase, thank you.
09:45Here you go.
09:46Oh, it's really good.
09:47We've got some questions for you, Chase.
09:50Is it weird to be sitting, like, behind Taylor?
09:53I'm normally next door.
09:54Oh.
09:55Oh, Lord.
09:56He'd rather be on top or bottom, though.
09:59Let's talk about your date.
10:01Um.
10:04Should we kiss for our friend's sake?
10:09Taylor, did you know it was a date?
10:12No, not really.
10:14I think it was, like, he wanted to just apologize.
10:16I don't know why it's such a big deal.
10:18I'm not married to Miranda anymore.
10:19Okay, Miranda, did you know about this date?
10:24From what I heard, it was a coffee meetup to put water into the bridge.
10:28That's what I heard.
10:29That's not a date.
10:31It just felt like there were a few details left out, and that's really where my confusion
10:36came from.
10:37Right.
10:38Okay, I mean, I would be annoyed, too, so, yeah.
10:41Chase, Taylor, where do you guys think you go from here?
10:49We'll see.
10:50I don't know.
10:50Okay.
10:53All right, so it looks like we're all going to have to watch this on season four, and we
10:58have so much to get through.
11:00Thanks, Chase, for the sip and telling.
11:03All right.
11:06You know we love a little game around here.
11:08So tonight, whether you're sipping on hot cocoa, a cola, or a Cosmo, we've got a buzzword
11:15for you.
11:15Every time you hear the word accountability, we invite all of you at home to take a sip.
11:22You're going to get alcohol poisoning.
11:23You still can't sit here and just take accountability and say, you're right, I'm here for this.
11:27I know that's your favorite word.
11:29Oh, God, the accountability.
11:31It's like the favorite word.
11:33It's Jesse took accountability.
11:35And I take full accountability.
11:36But again, this is to take accountability.
11:38The lack of accountability.
11:40You're just taking accountability.
11:41We don't hear any accountability.
11:42I get it.
11:43Should we look up the definition?
11:44Because I think a lot of people in this group don't even know what it means.
11:48Accountability is the state of being held responsible for something or someone.
11:53Take accountability.
11:54Accountability.
11:55Accountability.
11:55I'm not even going to say the word accountability.
11:57Holy shit, we use that word way too much.
11:59But take accountability.
12:01I love the accountability.
12:04The last scene alone had like 12.
12:05I'm the only one not in that montage.
12:08I don't buy into it.
12:09Jesse, what'd she say?
12:11She said, I'm probably not in that montage.
12:12No, that was Jordan.
12:13Wow, Jesse Goldstar.
12:15Whitney, at one point this past season, you called the other women your co-workers.
12:20Like, what inspired this change of heart?
12:22Because it looked like overnight, you were like, I want everyone to be friends again.
12:26Honestly, I feel like it was more so during press week.
12:28Like, I think, like, it was just Stimmy and I, and then it was everyone else.
12:33These were huge milestones that we were all accomplishing together.
12:37So I was like, it's kind of sad that, like, we can't even be work friends.
12:41Macy, I want to ask you why she went to you to heal mom talk.
12:45At first, when she approached me, I was like, this is a bad idea.
12:47And then I was like, okay, well, we can try it.
12:50And I can't make any promises that people aren't going to break out in a fight.
12:53But I think it was cool because it took every single one of us.
12:56It just had to be vulnerable and open up, or else it wouldn't have gone the way that it did.
12:58It went better than I thought it did.
12:59It went better than I thought it would.
13:01Yeah.
13:02I feel like I'm good with every single one of you.
13:04I would consider every single one of you one of my friends.
13:07Yeah.
13:08Well, the guys have been patiently waiting backstage.
13:11But I think it's time we bring them out to join the fun.
13:15Dad Talk, come on out.
13:19See you out there.
13:20I'm nervous about going.
13:21Here to join in on the fun are Jace, Jordan, Connor, Zach, and Jacob.
13:31I was just in London filming the next season of Vanderpump Villa, and some of you guys were there.
13:36How was the villa, guys?
13:39Zach, why did you turn bright red?
13:42I just saw some things.
13:43Oh, what?
13:44Oh, what'd you see?
13:45Saw or heard or both?
13:45Those aren't my secrets to share.
13:47I will say he was a little testy when he came home from London, so I was like, you've been hanging out with Jordan too much?
13:52He's a little spicy.
13:54He's not usually spicy.
13:55What happened in England?
13:57You're going to have to wait and tune in.
13:58Just wait.
13:59All right.
14:01More of that on season four of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
14:05Now, if you need a drink at home, grab a chaser.
14:08And for anyone here, just grab Chase.
14:10Let's see who else is behind the bar.
14:12Oh!
14:12Oh!
14:13Jason, why is your shirt on?
14:24I didn't take it on!
14:25So you guys are official.
14:27Mm-hmm.
14:27Official, official.
14:28Mm-hmm.
14:29How are you?
14:30Good, how are you?
14:31Good.
14:31Good?
14:33Mason is Chase's brother, and he's frickin' hot.
14:36I used to see Chase, and I see you.
14:39Do you think it's weird to be honest?
14:41I don't know.
14:43Yes, it's not weird.
14:44I saw Chase a year ago now.
14:46I know that Mason was interested in me first before Chase was, so I just accidentally tried
14:51out the wrong brother first, and now we're doing redo.
14:55Oh!
14:56Oh, my God!
14:58Also, Layla, so I hear Mason has met your kids.
15:02Yes, yes.
15:03Do they love him?
15:03Did he pass the test?
15:04The kids' test?
15:05I fear they're obsessed with him, yeah.
15:07The other day when we were on that hike.
15:08Yeah.
15:08Because he looks like Tarzan.
15:09Have they seen that movie?
15:10I always, every single time they're eating, they're like, I'm going to eat all my food
15:13so I get big muscles like Mason.
15:15I'm like, oh, okay.
15:16That's so sweet.
15:17Do the same.
15:18So smart.
15:18I have to ask, who's a better kisser?
15:22Definitely Mason.
15:23I was going to ask, who's bigger?
15:26I want to shift gears from Mason and Layla and talk about another relationship.
15:31Michaela and Jace, you guys were very vulnerable about your struggles this season.
15:37I feel like I've made a lot of strides with my past sexual abuse, but as far as the intimacy
15:44issues, I feel like it's been one area that I haven't been able to progress at all.
15:49Intimacy for me is really important.
15:52It's like a deal breaker.
15:53I think it's someone else's fault that took things and stole things from you, and if I'm
15:57frustrated, I'm frustrating at those people.
15:59I'm not frustrated with you.
16:01Michaela, how does it feel hearing Jace say not having intimacy is an issue for him?
16:09Sorry, I'm just going to take a second.
16:10Sorry, I'm just going to take a second.
16:31Sorry.
16:33It's still really fresh, everything that I'm working through.
16:36I know it's a really big need of his, and I think he's been very patient with me.
16:43Michaela's been amazing.
16:45I think that she's handling it better than I could have in her situation.
16:48Have things improved at all since the finale, since that time?
16:53I feel like I haven't had my body or felt in my body for a long time because of my health
16:58issues.
16:59Also, she had a baby.
17:00And I just had a baby.
17:02She carried that baby to term and pushed that baby out.
17:05And then after having the baby, it's like my health stuff all came back 180 overnight.
17:08And then for him, it's still hard because we're still having the intimacy issues.
17:12And I'm like, I don't know how to overcome it.
17:14And I think that's what's hard.
17:16Yeah.
17:18Jessie, you look like you're getting emotional.
17:22Yeah.
17:25I actually loved watching the Kio story because I knew that it happened to her, but seeing it
17:30play out and like seeing her thoughts and feelings behind it, um, I can relate.
17:35I, I've been doing a lot of therapy because of mine and Jordan's situation.
17:38And I actually uncovered the memory that I was raped when I was 19.
17:41And, um, it, it really, it like started a lot of my, um, issues, um, about like going emotionally
17:54numb and pushing people away and feeling not good enough.
17:57And after uncovering that, um, me and Jordan already had our struggles, but it made it worse.
18:03Like I, I don't exactly, like, I, I don't want him to touch me and it's not his fault, but
18:10like, it's so crazy how your body reacts.
18:14It's not just your emotions, you know?
18:16Um, so yeah, that's just been another layer of healing for me, but watching her story, like
18:21it just really hit home for me.
18:22And I, I understand fully how that can feel.
18:27Connor, what's going through your head right now?
18:30It's okay.
18:34I'm so sorry, Jesse.
18:37I feel like I can't relate in the same way.
18:41I struggled with intimacy in polarizing ways.
18:46And I don't want to speak for Michaela or Jesse or anyone else, but it can be challenging
18:50to rewire your brain.
18:52At least for me, the two polarizing parts are like, please don't touch me.
18:56I don't have control here.
18:58And it scares me to, I want to have like hypersexuality.
19:02Like I want to have as much sex as possible to put distance between me and that event.
19:06I just need to get that out of my system.
19:09So I don't know if I can necessarily relate with your relationships, but I do know that
19:15the patience that you are giving your spouses is healing and it is breeding intimacy between
19:22the both of you.
19:22I feel like that's one good thing that has come from the fame.
19:25I think it has pushed a lot of us out of our comfort zone.
19:28I don't know when I would have talked about it.
19:30For me, I would probably just push it away until I was 40 or 50.
19:33So I think this is a great thing.
19:34Like all the conversations that we've had, I think are amazing.
19:37And I think they're helping so many people that are watching.
19:39So I think that's my, that's my pro to me.
19:43Are you okay?
19:48What is this triggering for you?
19:51I think just like deep, deep wounds and things for me that I haven't fully uncovered and things
19:58I know I've been through that I've blocked out as well.
20:03And then just listening to you guys talk about it is like, it's so sad that we're sitting
20:08here in a room and like how many people in this room have experienced something like
20:13this to a degree.
20:15And then with everything that I went through the past year, not to compare because what
20:20I went through was not even close to what most everyone has gone through, but it triggered
20:27a lot of really horrible things that have happened in my life.
20:33So to not be believed and be questioned and like be called a liar, um, yeah, that it was
20:43just horrible.
20:44So I'm touched to like hear the way you guys are talking about it.
20:47And Connor, when you talk about it, it's like my little younger self is like getting the hug
20:54that I needed.
20:55You guys should be so proud of yourselves.
20:57Thank you for being so open.
21:00All of you.
21:00I feel like you're going to help so many people by talking about it.
21:04We have a former member of Dad Talk waiting to join us and now feels like a good time.
21:09Let's bring out Brett.
21:12He's joined us here now.
21:14How are you doing?
21:15Doing well.
21:15Happy to be here.
21:16Good.
21:17So for the past two seasons, fans have been wondering what really happened with Marciano
21:22and MomTalk.
21:23We've read receipts, reviewed recaps, and for some reason still haven't wrapped this up.
21:29Take a look.
21:30So I met with Marciano and he told me that you guys have been having an affair the past
21:36couple months.
21:37He told me that you guys had sex.
21:40Oh my fucking hell.
21:42I can't.
21:42We did not have sex.
21:44There's dark parts of me that just sometimes want to throw up my hands and just say, I don't
21:48want to do this anymore.
21:50Are you still the person that I want to be with?
21:52It ultimately led to us deciding to separate.
21:56Did me tell you to say that you slept with Jesse?
21:59Yeah.
22:00Did you and Demi kiss in Italy?
22:01Oh God, you guys.
22:03If I go admitting to that, I just don't want a war.
22:05I know Marciano was hurt by me ending things abruptly.
22:08So it does make sense that he would join forces with Demi because he wanted revenge.
22:14Oh.
22:15What?
22:16Who's that?
22:17Marciano.
22:17He said uninvited to the function because a 30-year-old Mormon wife scared to tell her
22:21husband the truth.
22:23And then Demi commented, she goes, grown men acting like a child because they couldn't bag a
22:28married woman.
22:29And then she commented another night, so she got uninvited because he's a sexual predator.
22:32He's not a sexual.
22:33He's not.
22:34He's not a predator.
22:35I think the biggest thing for me that's triggering right now is not feeling believed and not feeling
22:40like people truly want to understand.
22:43She knows how to bulldoze you in conversation.
22:45She has a way of making people believe her.
22:47Never once did I feel it for him.
22:50We've never kissed in our life.
22:52I've never even told him he was cute.
22:54Period.
22:55The end.
22:55My gut is telling me everything is calculated.
22:58I definitely think she's a threat to Mob Talks Foundation.
23:01The band is officially back together.
23:02We still have a lot to work on, but I do feel a little more hopeful because I am seeing
23:06patterns and behaviors that I needed to see before.
23:09I personally feel like the things that I've needed to face, I've faced.
23:13So are you ready to officially move back in?
23:16I'm over the moon about having a chance to take another stab at this.
23:22So Jesse, you had an emotional affair with Marciano.
23:26What did he provide for you emotionally?
23:32I always say like it honestly could have been anyone.
23:34At home, I just was feeling not seen, not appreciated, not loved.
23:38I couldn't do anything right.
23:39So just to have someone who like thought I was cool or funny or just like didn't see
23:44those negative things, like it was just someone getting me attention in a positive way and
23:48not putting me down all the time.
23:50Do you regret though cheating?
23:52Yeah.
23:52I wish I would have just left Jordan at that time instead of cheating.
23:56I truly was like, if I do something like this, like that will get me out.
24:00It was almost like, well, he hasn't hit me.
24:02He hasn't done anything like that.
24:03So like, it was really hard to like justify leaving, but emotional abuse and that toxicity
24:08can drain you.
24:09And it did.
24:09And it made me a person I'm not proud of.
24:12Macy, I know you had a lot of opinions about this.
24:16Yeah, no, it's hard.
24:16I've obviously, I'm someone who has been through an abusive relationship and I know theirs
24:20isn't the same as mine, but I think for me, I liked that Jordan was finally owning
24:24things, but I was also like, as long as you, we had the action behind it.
24:27Cause the words are just words unless there's action put behind it.
24:30But yeah, no, I mean, it's not something you want to hear about your friend.
24:33And that's why I'm always really protective of Taylor, but at the end of the day, I know
24:36they have to make their own choices.
24:37So I try to stay in one relationship at a time and do what I can.
24:40So it's like, I'm not trying to jump too deep into Jesse now.
24:42I will say, I do remember him taking his part of being like, I did mess up.
24:48I did do this to her and I did do that.
24:49And there was no buts after.
24:51And so I appreciated that part of it, but behind closed doors, when you go home with
24:54him, I don't know how that was.
24:55So we all don't know that part.
24:58So only they can speak on that one.
25:00Well, Jesse, do you feel like Jordan has put action behind it?
25:02Yeah, we've been in therapy for a while and I have seen a lot of changes.
25:06I will say like, I wouldn't still be here if that wasn't happening.
25:08Unfortunately, healing isn't overnight.
25:11So we've had setbacks and there are still things I worry about, but overall, I do feel
25:15like he's taken what I've said and applied a lot of it.
25:19I just need time to see if it's going to feel genuine, you know?
25:23Jordan, how do you feel about that?
25:25I've had to make changes and I've had to look at myself in the mirror and like, think
25:29about like the kind of person that I want to be.
25:31Not for Jesse, but for myself.
25:33Like I am, I'm proud of myself for the changes that I've made.
25:36And I really hope that those changes are enough to have a chance at saving my family.
25:42Well, there was even more drama behind the scenes the night Layla broke the news of Jesse's
25:47affair.
25:48Take a look at this extended cut of one of the phone calls between Jesse and Marciano.
25:55I'm just going to go like this.
25:59So I was told that you said we had sex.
26:02You know that that's not true.
26:04So I'm just confused why it was said that way.
26:07Jesse, I'm not going to get into a disagreement with you.
26:09Okay.
26:09Do you think we had sex?
26:15Uh, yeah.
26:17I mean, that's how I remember it.
26:19We kissed twice.
26:20That was it.
26:21Okay.
26:22No, Marciano, you know that.
26:24Like, I, I'm just, you know that I, I, I, I'm willing to be so open and honest that
26:30I had feelings for you.
26:31Like I was struggling in my marriage, but I want it to be the truth.
26:35It's everything.
26:36A hundred percent.
26:37You need to talk about how you wanted to leave Jordan and that you loved me.
26:39Yes.
26:40One thousand percent.
26:41I'm going to have to like everything's coming out.
26:43So that's why I just really want it to be the truth.
26:45This is the thing is that we're going to have this shit come out.
26:48Be a fucking honest.
26:49This is so much bigger than you think.
26:51To me, really fucked me.
26:52I don't buy it into it.
26:53I really can't fucking use me.
26:56It's all in the sight.
26:57Oh my God.
26:58I got to go.
26:59Jordan, how do you feel watching that?
27:02Well, um, a little bit, um, triggered.
27:09Okay.
27:10Yeah.
27:12I, uh, was specifically told by Jesse that she never had said that she was going to leave
27:18me for that piece of shit.
27:20I didn't say I was going to leave you for him.
27:22I told Marciano, I'm most likely I'm going to leave my husband because I'm unhappy.
27:25I never said it was for him.
27:27And I've told you that footage is what that said.
27:29No, he said, leave Jordan.
27:31Period.
27:32He didn't say for me.
27:33And I never said for him.
27:34I may have put that in my own head then.
27:36Yeah.
27:36Okay.
27:37Well then.
27:37Yeah.
27:38Jesse, the results of the lie detector test were inconclusive at parts.
27:44Yeah.
27:45Specifically the parts about contact with Marciano besides two kisses.
27:49We got the results.
27:50The results are in.
27:52Have you ever had sexual intercourse with Marciano?
27:54It says no.
27:55True.
27:56Yeah.
27:56So you're good on that one.
27:58Number two, besides those two kisses, have you ever had any sexual physical contact Marciano?
28:02No.
28:05Inconclusive.
28:06Wait, what?
28:08What can you say?
28:09I know that looks so bad.
28:10I was like, shit.
28:11So in the moment when she asked that question, I was like, okay, nothing else happened besides
28:15those two kisses, honestly.
28:16But in my head, I was like, okay, well, I did touch his arm.
28:18Like he did grab me here.
28:20Like there were things like that, but I'm like, I don't want to say yes.
28:22So I said no.
28:23And then it came back that way.
28:24So I understand why, because in my head, I was having that internal battle at this point
28:29though.
28:29Like I know my truth.
28:30It did say we didn't have sex and I'm glad that that was cleared up and genuinely nothing
28:34else happened.
28:35And at this point I would also say it because also we have, what do you have to lose at
28:39this point?
28:40Like in half the time I've wanted to leave Jordan.
28:42It would give me a reason genuinely.
28:44And I've told him that.
28:45Can I ask you guys, just everybody, you watch Marciano talk like that, the way that he
28:50talks, how do you give anything that he says, any credibility whatsoever?
28:55I think that's why it's so messy is because you can't.
28:58Well, we know he's not reliable.
28:59We're just using the facts that we've seen too.
29:01It's not what Marciano is saying.
29:04We clearly know he speaks in riddles.
29:06When you guys were at the villa in England, you guys seemed okay with Marciano.
29:13No, not.
29:13I wasn't.
29:15These guys, yeah, I will be honest.
29:16I never trimmed it up with them.
29:17Yeah, not me.
29:18He did seem like he was a nice guy there.
29:20He was charismatic.
29:21He stayed out of the drama.
29:22Like I felt like he was respectful to Jordan.
29:24So it was confusing.
29:26Okay, Demi, what do you say about continuing on a friendship and relationship with him after
29:32what you're accusing him of?
29:35Yeah, I mean, we have to separate the two because you can be sexually assaulted and then
29:41also continue a relationship.
29:42So one doesn't have to take away from the other.
29:45And why I did that, I think honestly just boils down to a trauma response and having a lack
29:52of boundaries and feeling like I needed to make excuses for what happened and also to
29:56keep what happened quiet because I didn't want it to come out.
30:01And like the best way to describe it is the hell that I've been through for the past year
30:05and the women who didn't understand like, well, why didn't you want that to come out?
30:09I don't understand how that doesn't affect you.
30:11It's weird though.
30:12And again, Demi, I'm not trying to call you a liar.
30:13To this day, he will double down on a few things.
30:17And one of those things is when Demi and I were leaving the villa, we kissed on the lips.
30:21No, I did not.
30:22Because it was off camera?
30:23Jen, when you say things like it was off camera, why are you saying that as though
30:27you know?
30:28To me, I've seen it now.
30:29Things did happen between Demi and Marciano, whether she wants to admit it or not.
30:33I mean, she was literally right next to him, like grabbing his hands, like googly eyes,
30:39like talking, laughing, like it for sure did not seem like a married woman was talking
30:47to another single man with boundaries.
30:48Did you see anything happen off camera?
30:51I hate to say the word, but like, again, I just haven't seen any accountability.
30:55Jen, did you see anything fucking happen off camera?
31:00I didn't.
31:00Why did you say you did?
31:01Then why are you fucking saying a word?
31:03Why did you threaten a safe citizen?
31:05Because of the shit I've gone through for the past year, Jen, which you don't fucking
31:09understand because you've never been sexually assaulted.
31:11Yes, I actually have.
31:12She has.
31:13She has.
31:13And I haven't talked about it.
31:14She has.
31:14Okay.
31:15Then have some fucking respect because I was too.
31:20I'm not talking to you.
31:21You're talking to my wife.
31:22Yeah, I'm talking to your wife.
31:24I'm talking to your wife.
31:25Then talk respectfully.
31:26I will talk to her how I feel like she deserves to be talked to.
31:29I've done nothing to Jen.
31:30She's made my life while I'm living.
31:31You've done nothing to me.
31:33You bullied me.
31:34I bullied you.
31:35After you went, you sat in the thing.
31:37We're here for you.
31:37We know what happened.
31:38We're on your side.
31:40Five seconds later, you turn to Michaela and go, if she comes for me next season, I'm
31:44exposing this.
31:45What the fuck is wrong with you?
31:46What the actual fuck is wrong with your brain?
31:49What the fuck is wrong with you?
31:55What the actual fuck is wrong with your brain?
31:57How do you feel about your wife texting the word come to another man?
32:01How do you feel about that?
32:02Jen, listen.
32:03No.
32:03Listen to what I'm going to tell you.
32:04Just listen.
32:05I'll answer your question.
32:06Answer my question.
32:06I'm asking.
32:07I started asking.
32:07How do you feel about that?
32:08I started asking the question.
32:09The word come.
32:09Just with respect.
32:10Is that appropriate?
32:11With respect.
32:11Just listen.
32:12Okay.
32:12But it's hard to be respectful when it's not being reciprocated.
32:15Okay.
32:15Answer your question.
32:16And that's what happens with us.
32:17It's got to go both ways.
32:18I understand.
32:19If you want to be heard out, you've got to hear other people out.
32:20Here's the problem, Jen.
32:21Because there's 20 different things that we could say.
32:23You're the one telling people to shut their fucking mouth.
32:25Zach, come on.
32:26But.
32:27Don't.
32:27I'm not going to be disrespectful to Jen.
32:29Don't be disrespectful to me.
32:31Please.
32:32He's not being disrespectful.
32:33Listen, Jen.
32:33He's literally just talking.
32:34The question I have for you is.
32:36She's telling me to shut my fucking mouth.
32:38Can you listen?
32:40Jen, are you trying to avoid my question?
32:41I don't understand why you keep interrupting.
32:43Please.
32:44Jen, I am asking you.
32:46Jen, if you didn't see the things that you said you saw, why did you say you did?
32:51Why did you say you saw her sitting on his lap?
32:53Why did you say you saw her kiss him on the lips?
32:55Hold on.
32:56And before you answer, just know there's footage.
32:58Like the whole thing was filmed.
32:59We just need to stop.
33:00This is clearly not the place.
33:01Oh, I know, but we just brought it up.
33:03So I feel like.
33:04Why don't we talk about Demi and Jessie's relationship, their friendship?
33:07You guys were best friends.
33:09Thick as thieves, always together.
33:11And now it's like, how would you describe your friendship today?
33:16I watched it fall apart.
33:17Yeah.
33:18I would say that we've made strides and we've talked about things, but I have walls up because
33:22I don't fully trust.
33:23And I think she did multiple things to me back to back to back to back.
33:27So I don't quite understand certain things.
33:29And I think because of that, I still have a huge guard up.
33:31Demi, how do you feel about her, your friendship?
33:33Yeah, it's almost as though we haven't had conversations.
33:35Like when I hear her say that, and it's like, I don't understand.
33:38To me, I'm confused because we've talked this through so many times.
33:43My intention from start to finish was so that this never fucking came to light.
33:49And in placating and being nice to Marciano, he was going to go on a podcast.
33:53And I was like, shit, I need to control how this plays out.
33:58Why were you so involved in my story?
34:00Because I was trying to keep him at bay.
34:02I understand placating because I did it, but I was trying to hide something I did wrong.
34:06So why did you feel like you had to placate?
34:07Because I didn't want to go through what I've been going through the past year and have to
34:10talk about this at all.
34:12I feel like this is an impossible situation because right before this, we just saw, you
34:16know, everyone's talking about sexual assault and you clearly see Demi crying.
34:20And like, that's a super sensitive topic.
34:22I think the reason we want to have these conversations is because when we say it doesn't add up, we're
34:26not trying to say you're a liar, discredit you, but like in our minds, from what we know, it
34:30doesn't.
34:31Macy, how uncomfortable would it be if you got, and I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be insensitive,
34:36but you got raped by your abuser or you got slapped or whatever.
34:39And then afterwards, you're like, I love you.
34:41And then later they're like, Macy, it's really weird that you said I love you.
34:44Being in a relationship with someone is so different than someone you knew for two days.
34:51I'm sorry.
34:52The problem is that you got out of becoming the judge, jury, and executioner as to how
34:56she reacted.
34:57Well, she put me in a really bad position, so I have every right to question her too.
35:00I'm sorry.
35:01This is a tit for tat for you?
35:02Yeah, it has to be.
35:03This is bullshit and I'm about to walk off.
35:05Then go.
35:06How do we get to the bottom of this if people-
35:08Why are you acting this way towards me?
35:12You would be just as defensive.
35:14I want answers.
35:15It's all these things where we're like, this doesn't add up.
35:18I just don't appreciate the lies.
35:19The lies piss me off so bad because it's affected my life for the past year in a very
35:24negative way.
35:25And Jen's off living her merry life on Dancing with the Stars, raking in dollar bills, and
35:29I'm a lying villain.
35:30You don't think bullying me affected me?
35:32Sweetie, how did I bully you?
35:34How did you bully me?
35:36You treated me like shit, you were lying about me, and then you expected me to have
35:41this wave of empathy for you because you were having a hard time.
35:47I think that this is going to have to be a larger conversation.
35:50I don't think this is going to be wrapped up today.
35:53I think too much-
35:53But do you see what-
35:54We just have-
35:55We want to talk about.
35:58I truly hope you all can find a way to move forward with all of this, but we need to move
36:04on with the reunion.
36:04We have another guest coming.
36:07I am kindly requesting all of your cooperation.
36:11Our next guest only agreed to participate if the ladies of MomTalk exited the stage while
36:17their interview takes place.
36:18Out of respect for that request, I am asking Taylor, Macy, Mikayla, Jen, Jesse, Layla, Miranda,
36:27Demi, and Whitney to follow our stage manager back to their dressing rooms where they can
36:33continue watching the reunion.
36:35Demi's example where she, if there weren't cameras, they would have been like, oh, did
36:45I physically assault you?
36:47Would you tell people that?
36:48That I was, like, that I put my hands on you, which is an assault?
36:52Like, I, for a while, was like, am I going to get strung out as, like, someone who hits
36:56girls?
36:56Yeah.
36:57All because of, you know, she was at an emotional high, and I think I'd love to chat with her
37:02about that because I've never been able to.
37:04Our experiences are valid, and it's, like, muddied because of this stupid fucking asshole
37:09that's lied, and sorry, but Jen, who's lied, and put all these things in your head that
37:13never happened.
37:15Okay.
37:16She's not telling lies.
37:17She's telling her experience, and she saw you be flirting in the villa, and so did all
37:19of us.
37:20I will never put myself in a situation like that again, and that sucks, especially when
37:24you've been in that situation, and it, like, brings up old stuff.
37:28Like, then you start really blaming yourself for, like, what they do.
37:32It's more painful to not be believed than to say, or not to go over it, over it, and over
37:37it, and over it, and feel the pain of past things, than to just say, fuck, yeah, we
37:42kissed, fuck, yeah, this happened.
37:44I'd rather something fucking happened at this point.
37:47It's excruciating, and it's ruining my reputation.
37:51And we hear you.
37:51And we hear you all not.
37:54I'm sorry.
38:08I want to go home.
38:10I want to go home.
38:12I don't feel like you have to go out there.
38:19No, I feel like I have to for me.
38:21Okay, for you, then let's fucking do it.
38:23Let's do it.
38:24I want you to really feel like you're up to it.
38:27Every part of me wants to run, and I'm like, no, you're going to stay, like, you deserve
38:31to be here, and, like, you're not going to let them win.
38:35Did Demi leave, leave?
38:36She might have.
38:37I heard this wailing, and I was like, what was that noise?
38:40And she's outside talking to somebody.
38:41I saw Brett talking to people.
38:43Yeah, Brett.
38:43So I don't know if she was leaving or not.
38:44Okay, I know that was a lot, but we do have a special guest waiting to come out.
38:50Is everyone ready?
38:57Oh, my gosh.
39:01Did he?
39:02So he's been watching this whole thing?
39:04Yeah.
39:04Welcome back to the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 3 Reunion.
39:09Against all odds and expectations, we have Dakota here with me and the rest of Dad Talk.
39:15Tensions between Mom Talk and Dad Talk took a toll on many of our cast members this season,
39:20and in an effort to speak his truth, Dakota agreed to join us tonight on the condition
39:25that Taylor and the rest of Mom Talk be backstage.
39:28Can we turn this up a little bit?
39:30Dakota, I was rooting for you and Taylor's relationship.
39:32And now you can't even be on the same stage with her.
39:36Why, you little bitch?
39:36Which, you have to admit, it's kind of crazy that you kicked the girls off of their own stage.
39:43Yeah, I'm just going to say that was a little more dramatic than I thought it was going to be.
39:47It wasn't supposed to be like that.
39:48None of the husbands are getting sex tonight.
39:50That's for sure.
39:51Connor already did.
39:51Before 8 a.m.?
39:52Yeah.
39:53Wow.
39:53I know.
39:54All I wanted was just to be able to have a good conversation, and I think most people would
39:58agree that when me and Taylor are together, it's really hard for us to just
40:02talk.
40:03So that was really my only thing.
40:05I think that's fair.
40:07Your relationship with Taylor has gotten to a point where she'll be looking for love
40:11on the next season of The Bachelorette.
40:14What happened?
40:15Let's take a look.
40:17How are you?
40:18How are things?
40:18Good.
40:19You had him like for 11 days.
40:20Yeah, I did.
40:21It was like good bonding for us.
40:23Really?
40:23Yeah.
40:24Well, I'm sure.
40:24Well, yeah, I feel so close to him.
40:26The goal is to have healthy co-parenting and to focus on our healing individually.
40:34I am not going to be in a relationship until I'm in a healthier spot.
40:37My roommate went missing this morning.
40:39Yes, we had sex.
40:45Like, obviously.
40:46How about that I love you last night?
40:48If ever there was a future for Dakota and I, there would have to be no more lies, no more
40:54secrets.
40:55Are Taylor and Dakota back together?
40:56I'm not trying to snitch, but during one of the times they were broken up, Leanne's
41:01friend, she started like hitting on him and it kind of turned sexual.
41:05This is the fourth girl now and it's like, it's a fucking family member.
41:08I hate you.
41:09I don't think you like understand how big of a deal this is.
41:14I just like want your full transparency.
41:17Dakota came clean to me.
41:19There's never been anything going on between me and Dakota.
41:22I literally would have only invited him over to cry it out or whatever.
41:25Cry it out and then fuck.
41:30You haven't been happy for three years.
41:33I did my mediation.
41:36Taylor, I'm glad that you took the initiative to contact the attorney and finally set some
41:41boundaries.
41:42I have no choice.
41:43We're done.
41:44Sorry, can you throw me that water real quick?
41:47To make you nervous?
41:48Yeah, you guys did.
41:50He's sweating.
41:51He's like, hey, what lies did he cover up right now?
41:53How are you and Taylor now?
41:54I don't, I mean, I think probably not good if I had to say, like, and I don't like that.
42:04Like, I wish it was, I wish it was better, but I just think the emotions are still like
42:09really high.
42:10Okay.
42:11In your words, what happened with Taylor's family friend?
42:15It's been over two years now.
42:17Um, so I think when this happened, me and Taylor were together for like 10 months.
42:23We were both in a very toxic cycle.
42:26For me anyways, it was like, I was always getting broken up with.
42:28And this was like the first like time where she broke up with me, where I guess for me,
42:32it felt like very legit.
42:34Like it felt like it was real for me.
42:36This lady that I had met through Taylor's family.
42:40She reached out to me and was just checking in on me.
42:42Cause obviously she had heard what happened and she was just like being super nice.
42:47Um, and then it wasn't, it didn't like get weird.
42:51Did you guys talk about Taylor?
42:53Yeah.
42:53It was about her relationship.
42:55Yeah.
42:55So like you confided in her.
42:56Yeah.
42:57It was just about like how, how crappy it is and like how sad I am.
43:00Okay.
43:01Let's see what he lies about.
43:02And then I'll go out there and clear it up.
43:03And then it got to a point to where I'm trying to think of exactly step by step, but it was
43:09like, yeah, think about those lies you're going to tell.
43:12She's just making him feel like a fool.
43:14It's not that hard to do.
43:15It's just the facts.
43:16And then like out of nowhere, I feel like she kind of like came on to me, which that I think
43:24just kind of surprised me given in that moment.
43:27Like I didn't actually think that was going to happen.
43:28If again, that's just my opinion.
43:31Like, I really didn't think that was going to happen.
43:34And then, uh, and then from there it was like, even the pictures we sent, like I know,
43:40did you, by the way, which, no, no, I'm getting to it.
43:44I just want to make sure I explain this because I don't want things twisted.
43:46Like even on the episode, I watched one of them and it was like, Taylor was questioning
43:50me.
43:50I was like, Oh, there's only one picture sent.
43:51There's only one picture sent.
43:53I was referring to, she only sent me one picture.
43:56There was multiple pictures sent, but she only sent me one picture.
44:00Oh, so you sent her one?
44:01Yeah.
44:01No, no, no.
44:02I only sent one more picture.
44:03So there's two, two pictures.
44:05What was it?
44:05What was the picture of?
44:07Um, it was a silhouette.
44:08So in the silhouette, like it was so dark.
44:11Like if I'm being honest, it wasn't super sexual to me, like just because of how dark the picture
44:20was.
44:21What prompted the pic?
44:22Oh yeah.
44:23This is what I was going to say.
44:24So, and I think what even propped, I think what even prompted the picture was that we
44:28were talking about like the gym working out, uh, being in good shape, like things like
44:33that conversation had turned away from you and Taylor's relationship.
44:37Yeah, I guess, yeah, I turned to like that just at that nighttime, just towards the night
44:40there.
44:41Who gives a fuck what time it is?
44:43It's nighttime.
44:44He was like, it was nighttime.
44:44He was like, it was 7, 8, 21 p.m.
44:47Night.
44:47And then I sent a picture of my shirt off.
44:50Dumb as shit.
44:51I agree.
44:52It was stupid.
44:53I'm not saying it's not.
44:54Stupid.
44:54Yes.
44:55It was.
44:55Like flirty though?
44:57Her picture to you and your picture.
44:58Hell yeah.
44:58That's where, yeah, already I was like, okay, this is like, uh, yeah, like it.
45:03But you and Taylor weren't together.
45:04No, no.
45:05She broke up with me.
45:06I'm about to go fucking out there and literally annihilate him.
45:09And then out of nowhere, she like freaked out, like, and was like, delete everything,
45:15delete everything.
45:17Actually, you hear me?
45:18And I was like, what's going on?
45:20I think it made me have to kind of be like, oh damn, like, this is like a big, big deal.
45:26Keep going.
45:26Go ahead with your lies.
45:28Lies?
45:28What part?
45:29Where am I?
45:29I don't want to sit by him.
45:30You can go.
45:31I don't want to sit by him.
45:31Can you give me that water?
45:34You look pretty.
45:35Keep going.
45:36All right.
45:36I will.
45:37Let me drink my water.
45:37Welcome, ladies.
45:39So Taylor, what is not tracking for you?
45:42Um, I mean, I think you can kind of gauge when you're stuttering.
45:44You're like, well, wait, wait, give me a second.
45:46That's when you're having to keep up with lies.
45:48You knew the extent of what she was.
45:50So don't go back on that now.
45:51Does that make sense?
45:51Yeah, I see what you're saying.
45:53That's my point.
45:54If Dakota would just be like, I messed up.
45:56I messed up.
45:56I messed up.
45:57That was so dumb of me.
45:58He would just look so much better.
46:00I think you know that this was fucked up because you confided in Jordan about it.
46:05A hundred percent.
46:06Okay.
46:07So you understand why Taylor is enraged?
46:11Right.
46:12Right.
46:13Okay.
46:13Yeah.
46:13So what are you trying to defend?
46:16Defend?
46:16I think it comes off as you kind of defending.
46:19As if it's not fucked up.
46:19Which I think can invalidate how Taylor feels.
46:22Well, I think I do that just given the fact that I think.
46:24You're never just sorry.
46:26Yeah.
46:26Like if you didn't have any new information, you must be here to fully apologize or something.
46:34Well, I think the context of what I just said is new.
46:37Like I watched the episode and I feel like there was multiple things that were skewed in there.
46:41What?
46:42I think that's fair.
46:43Like it was exactly what I thought.
46:45Yeah, there was.
46:46But it's exaggerated.
46:47I felt like it made it seem like I cheated on you.
46:50You did.
46:50That is cheating to me.
46:51Okay.
46:52But yet you can do it, right?
46:53I never did.
46:53When you're broke up, when you broke up with me, you can go fuck someone else and then come fuck me, right?
46:58Okay.
46:58So a year later.
46:59Oh, we were broke up.
47:00I cheated on you a year.
47:00We were broke up though, right?
47:01Oh my God.
47:02And your friends will tell you the same thing.
47:04They'll say, you don't owe him that.
47:05Did I cheat?
47:06You don't owe him.
47:06Does anyone consider that cheating?
47:07So you're broken up and me moving on.
47:09Right.
47:09So how is that cheating what I did if I was broken up?
47:11I don't feel like this is about cheating.
47:13It's who it is.
47:13It's who it is.
47:15It's who it's with.
47:16Layla.
47:17I know.
47:18No, I'm saying, then let me just talk.
47:20Do you see how the whole thing changed?
47:22Like when you come out and you're just firing shots at me, like I wanted to just talk.
47:26This is where I wanted to.
47:27This was my whole point.
47:28Go.
47:28I've apologized to you like a hundred times.
47:30You've never meant it though.
47:31Yes, I have.
47:31I've wrote you letters saying sorry a hundred times.
47:34Do you know what you said?
47:35You said, hey, I weeded out a bad friend in your family.
47:37This is me just trying.
47:37Wait, what?
47:38He said, hey, I weeded out a bad friend in your family.
47:41Oh my gosh.
47:42This is what I'm talking about.
47:43Like this is why I can't do this.
47:45Are you still on speaking terms with this person?
47:48No, my entire family dishonored her.
47:51No.
47:51She was my friend too.
47:53Like that's what, like she would see me cry and struggle and all these things with Dakota
47:56and be helping me when I think she was a snake in the fucking grass.
47:59It's disgusting.
48:01Do you feel like you owe her parents an apology?
48:04A hundred percent.
48:04And I reached out to your mom and asked her.
48:07Well, he was making threats.
48:08Taylor is so wild.
48:10This is what I'm saying.
48:10Because I come out with the truth.
48:11Didn't you just sex me last night?
48:13You should tell your new boyfriend that.
48:14We're going to move out of this.
48:15The one that you like a lot?
48:16Didn't you just say that today?
48:17Oh, hell.
48:17You should probably tell him how you were talking to me last night.
48:19Oh.
48:20Look at that.
48:20We have.
48:21Look at you denying it.
48:21I don't have a boyfriend.
48:23I'm single.
48:23You're denying it.
48:23I am single.
48:24Just take a couple of breaths.
48:26This is getting a little crazy.
48:27Show up the sex thing.
48:27You should have him show up because he's lying.
48:28We're going to move out of this.
48:29I want to go back to Leanne and Jeremy.
48:31I mean, this is the worst time for me to do it.
48:33I was actually going to do it and it was going to be very genuine, but now it's like I'm so heated.
48:37Yeah, this is not giving happy holidays.
48:44Oh, I need a Duncan refresher.
48:50Obviously, very sangria.
48:52Yes.
48:53There you go.
48:58Welcome back to the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 3 reunion.
49:06We've had more drama than a high school Christmas pageant.
49:09We have mom talk and dad talk here with us, along with Leanne and Jeremy and Demi and Brett.
49:15Demi, I know you had a rough time out there and I really appreciate you coming back.
49:22Dakota has something he'd like to say to Taylor's parents, but first, Brett has something he'd like to get off his chest.
49:28I'd like to apologize to Miranda.
49:30In my heated phone conversation with Demi, said something that I don't mean even remotely.
49:35We had a brief conversation with Miranda and she just basically was insinuating that I'm a liar and you said Chase shoved you.
49:43And I'm like, well, I don't know.
49:45What would you call it?
49:45I don't know what to call it.
49:46He came up and pushed my hip.
49:47That's a typical response for somebody who's so skeptical.
49:51What I said was unacceptable and it was really representative of how I was feeling about this situation as a whole.
50:00Just feeling like the whole thing was just so kind of out of bounds and so trashy the way that I felt like she was being treated.
50:07And you were the last person that she interacted with.
50:10So unfortunately, you were on the receiving end of kind of the pinnacle of my frustration and you didn't deserve that.
50:16And I'm really sorry.
50:17It was tensions were really high at that time.
50:21I do wish that, you know, this wasn't just happening on camera.
50:24I wish maybe it was something that was said earlier.
50:27And I'm not saying that I don't, that it's not an authentic apology.
50:30I just, I do think that the timing of it is a little bit unfortunate.
50:34I just, so you know, I felt sick to my stomach just hearing myself.
50:37I didn't even remember saying that.
50:38I was like seeing red in the moment.
50:41And I really, my apology really is sincere.
50:44I, I really, I'm sorry.
50:46I appreciate it.
50:47Yay.
50:48One apology accepted.
50:50Dakota, I know there's something you'd like to say to Leanne.
50:53So just go ahead.
50:54Uh, obviously I, I know that I fucked up.
51:00I just think like, I think I knew I was going to lose you guys and that, I don't know.
51:09I think I kind of numbed out maybe a little bit.
51:11And I think it was just hard to me and Taylor, obviously we're just not in a good place.
51:17And that, I think it was just like even harder, but I am truly sorry.
51:23Cause I know that that caused a lot of pain, obviously for Taylor, but for you guys as well
51:29and your family.
51:29And I don't think I realized the magnitude maybe of even what I did.
51:35I don't expect you guys to forgive me.
51:37I don't expect anything like that, but I do just want you to know, like, I know I messed
51:41up.
51:42I know that I caused a lot of pain for all of you guys.
51:46And that's all I can do right now is I'm sorry.
51:51Leanne, Jeremy, I just don't understand like why, why you do that behind your girlfriend
52:04that's pregnant with your baby.
52:07That's sickening.
52:09And I think that bugs me, Dakota.
52:11And you're just like one of those people that you just can't help but to love, but then
52:15you get really get to know you.
52:17You're not that person.
52:19You're just a different person.
52:20Like behind closed doors, you have your virtue here is like been taken away.
52:26You're so dishonest.
52:27You're so like, I just don't know how you could keep lying.
52:30And you know what?
52:31The thing that hurts the most is that she's my kid and you hurt my grandbaby.
52:36Like you hurt ever.
52:38She's the one that's going to pay for all your guys's crappy decisions that you both have
52:44made.
52:47I can't accept anything that comes out of your mouth.
52:49Cause it's all bullshit, dude.
52:50You have proven yourself time and time again, that nothing that comes out of your mouth
52:56is just spewing bullshit.
52:59So I can't accept any sorry from you or nothing.
53:03I mean, our last reunion, he was sitting here crying and our host was asking, do you think
53:08you can be an honest person?
53:10He's crying.
53:10And yes, I've said everything.
53:12I've said it all.
53:13Like I can do this.
53:14Yes.
53:14I love Taylor, but he's still lying about, right?
53:17I didn't know.
53:17I learned after the reunion.
53:19I'll do anything to, uh, just like have that opportunity to be with her and my family.
53:26And, um, this is so hard because that's like, I just went about everything the worst way.
53:38Taylor, Dakota, where do you guys think you go from here as co-parents?
53:43I would obviously love to get to a spot of like being cordial for the sake of our son,
53:48because he ultimately, my mom is saying he's the one who is going to suffer from all of this.
53:52This is a law on me that I chose him to be his dad.
53:57Wait, you don't think I'm a good dad, Taylor?
53:59Are you going to let me finish?
54:00So I feel when I look at ever, I'm like, this is my fault.
54:03I did this.
54:04I chose to do this.
54:06I'm so sorry that I chose to have a child with this person.
54:10However, they feel they're justified.
54:11The one thing I want to just stand on is I've seen him be a dad.
54:14And like, I think Dakota is a great dad.
54:16I will never, ever have anyone tell me I'm not because I know that with every single fiber in my heart.
54:22Okay.
54:23I just like, you know what Taylor out of anybody, you know how much I care about ever.
54:27Did you listen?
54:27I said it's on me.
54:28I feel guilty for me.
54:29It's how you're wording things about it.
54:30I mean, every word.
54:32I think it's not about this.
54:34You know, we were giving you the opportunity to apologize to them.
54:38You did.
54:41They don't accept that apology.
54:43That's fine.
54:46We can't just like keep at it.
54:49Keep at it.
54:49Like, we can't do that.
54:50That's it.
54:51I'm done.
54:53Fucking stupid.
54:54Fucking my God.
54:55Folks, we're not done yet.
54:56Folks, we're not done yet.
54:57Oh, shit.
54:59I told them we're not done.
55:00They want that.
55:00Fuck that.
55:01I'm good.
55:03I want anything good.
55:04I'm just going to say, I just feel for Dakota, honestly.
55:07Did I care for him?
55:09Absolutely.
55:09Is this painful?
55:11Duh.
55:11I loved him.
55:12I wanted to be with him.
55:13I had a child with him.
55:14So, yes, it's fucking painful.
55:16Hurts to co-parent to this very day.
55:18I do it every day.
55:19And it's the worst things I've ever done.
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