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00:00It's the pivotal moment in any investigation.
00:02Start where you are!
00:04If you get it wrong, then it's game over.
00:07Get in the ground now!
00:12Police officer with a taser!
00:14Taser, taser, taser!
00:20Don't do something, Stephen!
00:30Everything they're doing is on body-worn video.
00:36Police!
00:37Everything they're doing will be examined by defence lawyers.
00:42They can't make any mistakes.
00:46I haven't done anything wrong!
01:00This video is one of the most surprising admissions of guilt that I've ever seen.
01:08This is not something that they would have been expecting.
01:12It is quite breathtaking.
01:14Come on, mate.
01:17Sorry.
01:18Police!
01:20No-one in here at the moment. Hold on.
01:26The police!
01:29Police!
01:30Got it.
01:34Stay where you are!
01:35Stay where you are!
01:36Stay where you are.
01:37Stay where you are.
01:38Stay where you are.
01:39Stay where you are.
01:40You here?
01:41Jenny?
01:42Yeah?
01:43Jenny?
01:44Oh.
01:45The time is 12-12.
01:46You're under arresting a suspicion of murder against Jonathan McCulloch and Lars McCulloch.
01:49OK?
01:50So you don't have to say anything, but in my home defence, if you don't have to mention,
01:52won't question.
01:53Sometimes I just don't want anything to do, so I don't have any evidence.
01:56OK?
01:57I'll call it right.
01:58I'll call it right.
01:59Is there anything in the pocket we should know about?
02:00Yes, there is.
02:01Can I take you to it?
02:02No.
02:03You can tell me.
02:04Er, can we go in there for a second just so I can tell you something about what's in
02:08that.
02:09Yeah.
02:10Yeah.
02:11And then the only reason I said I need to tell you something about what's upstairs on
02:14the top floor as well.
02:15Yeah, OK.
02:16Yeah, OK.
02:17It's getting off quite, huh?
02:18Yeah.
02:19Is it real, man?
02:20Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:21Just mind your face, obviously.
02:22Yeah.
02:23Obviously, I'm not afraid.
02:24No, it's fine.
02:25Er, I know, but obviously I've got to tackle.
02:27Er, my dad's body isn't there.
02:30Right, OK.
02:31OK.
02:32OK.
02:33Yep, OK.
02:34Obviously, I'll say...
02:35Where about your arm?
02:36Er, a little bit more complicated.
02:40I've never seen anybody react to an arrest in the way Virginia did on that day.
03:01John and Lois McCulloch are missing, feared dead.
03:07John was aged 70.
03:09He lived with a number of medical conditions.
03:12He had type 2 diabetes and had been prescribed medication.
03:17And Lois, who was 71, she lived with a mild form of obsessive compulsive disorder and agoraphobia
03:24as well.
03:28For more than four years, no one had seen the couple.
03:32But when too many health appointments were cancelled, the local GP surgery grew concerned
03:38and police were alerted.
03:41Thankfully, the police took that very seriously.
03:45These are people that are predominantly housebound that are missing.
03:49Now, that's a big concern.
03:51It's a big concern.
03:54Friends and family had received reassuring messages from John and Lois that they'd moved to the
04:00seaside.
04:01But phone records now revealed the texts were fakes.
04:04They'd been sent from home.
04:06Despite them saying that they're here, there and everywhere, their phones haven't moved.
04:12So those texts have been sent by somebody else who is in that location.
04:18Home is the last location where John and Lois were seen alive.
04:23The house is an end-of-terrace property.
04:28It's set over several different floors.
04:32From an officer's perspective, you wouldn't have had a clue what to expect going into that property
04:37because no one knew.
04:39It would have been a discussion at a high level within the police force about exactly what would happen.
04:46They would have discussed going and entering the property, protecting any evidence that was there.
04:52They might need protective suits.
04:54All of these considerations were before scenes of crime entered property.
04:59What was crucial was to collect the evidence, preserve the evidence and keep it secure.
05:05If you force an entry into somebody's premises, you have all of the exits covered because people do run away.
05:14They do throw evidence out of the windows.
05:17They aim to arrest the only other person who lives at the house,
05:21the youngest of the McCulloch's five daughters, Virginia, aged 35.
05:35One of the pieces of equipment they use is commonly called a big red key.
05:40It's basically a ram, and the officers will swing it at the weak points of the door.
05:45It looks quite a rudimentary sort of easy tactic to deploy, but actually you have to be trained to do it,
05:53and it works very well.
05:57It does seem a bit like overkill.
05:59You would think, well, this is a middle-aged woman.
06:02But clearly they were wary, they were worried.
06:09To an outside observer, the police bash the door down, running, shouting, and are noisy and aggressive.
06:16The police!
06:18That is controlled aggression.
06:19That's controlled aggression for a purpose.
06:21So they're not going in there pumped full of adrenaline looking for a fight.
06:25They're going in there to be noisy to get compliance.
06:28No one in here at the moment.
06:29Hold on.
06:31The police!
06:32Got it.
06:34And one way to do that is almost to go overboard in terms of that controlled aggression and noise and command.
06:42Stay where you are.
06:43Stay where you are!
06:45Bash the door down.
06:46You've just got officers behind her, in front of her.
06:48Stay where you are, show your chance.
06:49She could see this was a real taser and it's going to hurt her.
06:54And then if she didn't comply, then they would fire the taser, which basically sends two barbs and an electric current into her body.
07:04She must have been like rabbit in the headlights.
07:06But the whole purpose of that is to get her to the point where she complies immediately with what those officers are going to do.
07:12Jenny?
07:13Yeah?
07:14Jenny?
07:15Oh.
07:16The time he's dropped off, you're going to draw a suspicion of murder against Jonathan McCulloch and Lars McCulloch.
07:21OK?
07:22She doesn't say anything, but in my home defence.
07:23Can I just take my cover?
07:24Make sure.
07:25We're in question.
07:26So I just want anything to do so.
07:28OK?
07:29What I can see at the top left of the screen is a vase with some flowers.
07:33Now, it's probably unlikely that she's going to grab that and use that as a weapon, but she could.
07:38So by putting her in handcuffs, that prevents that from happening.
07:41Is there anything in the pocket we should know about?
07:42Yes, there is.
07:43Can I take you to it?
07:44No, you can tell me.
07:45The officers don't want someone who they've just arrested on suspicion of two counts of murder wandering around and impacting the crime scene that they'll be investigating.
07:55I need to tell you something about what's upstairs on the top floor as well.
07:58Yeah, OK.
08:03First, officers do let Virginia McCulloch return them to the room they smashed their way into moments earlier.
08:10Oh, my dad's body isn't there.
08:13Right, OK.
08:15So this would have come as a huge shock to the officers.
08:19The first significant thing she says is my dad's body is in there.
08:24So this is not something that they would have been expecting.
08:27They might have been expecting some protestations of innocence.
08:30They might be expecting her to say that she's not going to say anything until she gets to the police station.
08:35But she's immediately indicated that the body is still in the house.
08:40Oh, my dad's body isn't there.
08:42Right, OK.
08:43Now, this might be the first time that they realise that the body is still in the house.
08:48And this would have been a huge shock, but they carry on in a calm, professional way.
08:53Obviously, I'll say...
08:54Where about your arm?
08:55Erm, a little bit more complicated.
08:58OK.
08:59Erm, can I...
09:00That's why I said, can I go upstairs and show you...
09:02Right, can you explain it to us, please, because we're trying to preserve...
09:05It's now going to be a scene, so we need to preserve this the best we can.
09:08That house was one big crime scene.
09:11The officers themselves have gone in wearing forensic protection.
09:17There was a balance between being able to secure Virginia safely so they could make the arrest and also forensically protect the scene and the evidence within that scene.
09:27Where will we find mum?
09:30OK, so upstairs there are about five wardrobes.
09:33Yep.
09:34Erm, it's behind the bed but back next to the sink.
09:38She's describing now exactly where her mother's body will be found.
09:44She's just saying in quite the most cold and dispassionate way that her mother's in the wardrobe behind the bed by the sink.
09:54It's...it's so bizarre.
09:56It...it...it...it's almost unbelievable.
10:11We didn't know her name was Virginia.
10:15We thought it was Jenny.
10:17In a lot of shops, she was making a nuisance of herself.
10:25Just hanging around, really, so she would be in here.
10:29Even if we had customers come in, she would stand at the back out of the way, but she would just loiter.
10:38I'd call her strange. She was a strange character.
10:42But in here, between just us two, we used to call her Nutty Jenny.
10:46Because she was a bit odd, to say the least.
10:54But not odd enough to ever dream that she would murder her parents.
11:01Ever.
11:07Police have raided a house in the search for a couple missing for four years.
11:12We first heard about it on Essex radio.
11:20The police!
11:21Officers are believed to have arrested a 35-year-old woman in Pump Hill, Great Baddow, near Chelmsford.
11:27They had mentioned Pump Hill, Great Baddow, so then we knew.
11:34Stay where you are!
11:35Stay where you are!
11:36Stay where you are, show your chance!
11:38We just looked at each other and was like, oh my God, that's got to be Nutty Jenny.
11:42Nutty Jenny.
11:43The woman's believed to be the daughter of the missing couple.
11:47Right, so I've written.
11:48I, Virginia McCulloch, have informed police constables 77329 Brown and 79387 Bowers
11:57after entering my house on Friday the 15th September 2023 that I murdered my father, John McCulloch,
12:03who was stated was under a bed in the rear ground floor of the house
12:08and my mother upstairs in a cupboard next to the sink.
12:11Wardrobe. Wardrobe. It's a double wardrobe.
12:13Right, okay, I've written cupboard.
12:14It's like four walls, but it's the one nearest, I think, double wardrobe.
12:19After she'd killed her parents, she decided that the bodies had to stay there in the house with her,
12:26really chilling.
12:29She went out and bought breeze blocks.
12:32Her dad she kept in the downstairs room, then putting breeze blocks around that
12:37in a makeshift mausoleum, which was covered with blankets and photographs.
12:41It just looks like a bed.
12:44Because of the way in which she wrapped and then protected the body,
12:49in the sleeping bag, in 11 layers of plastic,
12:53sealed him up against all of the factors that accelerate decomposition.
13:00There was no smell, no leakage, none of the things that you would expect from a decomposing body.
13:06She will have had to carry those breeze blocks up several flights of stairs
13:09to be able to partially conceal the wardrobe that she'd put her mum's body in as well.
13:16And again, she lived with her mum in that house, taped up, wrapped up in that wardrobe for over four years.
13:25It is surprising that there wasn't that much of a spell.
13:28However, the way that she entombed her parents, she made sure that there was no air that was able to get in.
13:39The McCullochs had lived not too far from the parade of shops.
13:43They were very well recognised in the local area.
13:45Virginia, who was their youngest daughter, was effectively their carer.
13:52She would apply for credit cards in her father's name.
13:56She applied for the early release of her father's pension.
14:00You know, any way that she could get her hands on their money, she would.
14:05Also in the handbag as well, there's...
14:10..and again, cos you're probably going to need to know about it,
14:14there's a card in there.
14:17Card one money.
14:19And that's a thank card,
14:23where there's a lot of transactions that have taken place over the last few years.
14:30What?
14:31For the money that changed my parents.
14:35John and Lois seemed to think that they were losing money,
14:38that their money was kind of disappearing, hemorrhaging almost.
14:41And they spoke to Virginia about this.
14:44But she would always have an excuse, always have a reason,
14:47to give her parents the impression that she was on top of this
14:51and she was going to get their money back for them.
14:55Virginia was heavily involved in online gambling.
14:58And using a lot of the money that belonged to her parents.
15:04She basically stole about £150,000 from her parents.
15:13I think Virginia's lies were starting to catch up with her
15:17and she knew that the game was up.
15:18So she planned for about three months that the only way to continue with the life
15:24that she'd created for herself at her parents' expense was to kill them.
15:30She started to experiment with levels of medicines in drinks.
15:34She bought crushing equipment so she could reduce tablets to powder
15:38so that they could be secreted in drinks.
15:47On the night of the poisoning, Virginia decided this was it.
15:51And she was going to kill her parents that night.
15:55Some things fell in her favour.
15:57Firstly, her parents slept in separate rooms.
15:58So if one was affected quicker than the other, then they wouldn't know.
16:04So John, her father, was in the habit of having a Guinness and a brandy
16:10before he went to bed.
16:12Both quite strongly flavoured drinks, so could easily disguise medicines.
16:16She crushed down some pills, some drugs, and mixed them into his drinks
16:25and sent him off to bed to die.
16:30She'd also put that cocktail of prescription drugs into a drink for her mum.
16:35Virginia then went off to bed, satisfied that her parents would not survive the night.
16:39Virginia woke up at six o'clock, she went to her father's room,
16:51and sure enough, there he was, lying in his bed, still lifeless.
16:57He was dead, her plan had worked.
17:02She then went to her mother's room, and to her absolute shock and surprise,
17:06she saw her mum sitting up in bed, set of headphones in,
17:11listening to the radio.
17:13It hadn't worked.
17:15What on earth had gone wrong?
17:17When she looked at the spiked drink,
17:21she realised her mother hadn't finished it.
17:23She hadn't consumed enough of this murderous liquid to kill her.
17:30And she's now going to have to rely on her back-up plan,
17:32which is a far more violent way of killing someone
17:35that she should have been loving and caring for.
17:39Obviously, if she left her mother alive,
17:42her mother would know that her father had been poisoned and killed,
17:47and there was only one person that could do it.
17:49Her mum had to die.
17:51Requested by Central Command.
17:53And that's when she got the hammer.
17:55Is in reaction to heightened tensions between...
17:58She went back to the room and started attacking her mum
18:02about the head with this hammer.
18:07Chillingly, she would go on to describe that as being like playing the xylophone.
18:12Horrific description of killing anyone, let alone your own mother.
18:16Her mum looking up at her daughter, who should have been there to love and care for her,
18:22knowing that actually this person would be taking her life.
18:27And then she suddenly had a thought.
18:29This was getting too messy, it was too difficult, it was too violent.
18:35She then retrieved a knife from the kitchen.
18:38Came back to the room and stabbed her mother eight times,
18:42seven of them in the chest.
18:45Essex police have confirmed that officers today
18:48arrested the daughter of a couple missing for four years.
18:52Virginia McCulloch is suspected of murdering her parents.
18:57The purpose of your arrest is for a prompt effective investigation as well
19:01by questioning you. We can't do that here.
19:03It needs to be done at the police station, all right?
19:05I did know that this would kind of come eventually.
19:13And it's proper that I serve my punishment.
19:17So, yeah.
19:22She was resigned to her fate.
19:25But this extraordinary arrest still wasn't over.
19:28What's significant that's all written down there, here now, I've just read it up to you.
19:34Are you happy to sign that, to say that's a true account?
19:37Yeah.
19:47Cheer up, at least you got the bad guy.
19:48Cheer up, at least you got the bad guy, is just so cold and so heartless.
19:59I've got no idea where that comes from in a human being.
20:03It's almost like she's trying to reassure him that this isn't quite as bad as you thought it was.
20:11It's actually terrible. It's terrible.
20:14Yet she's trying to make light of the situation.
20:15Cheer up, at least you got the bad guy.
20:19I've just woken up today and done my job.
20:22Then the end of that sentence...
20:25I've just woken up today and done my job.
20:28No.
20:30It's not a lie.
20:32You don't look like what? I don't look like a double killer.
20:36I don't look like someone who'd killed my parents.
20:38I don't look like somebody who'd hide bodies away for four years.
20:41I'm not going to comment on anything. It's not my job to comment on it.
20:43OK.
20:45He's absolutely right not to engage with her in that way.
20:48He's remained completely professional and detached from her and what's going on in front of him.
20:53She's making admissions, unbidden admissions, and anything that he says at all, either to influence her to talk more or to validate her attitude and views could be detrimental to the investigation.
21:09No, well, I mean, I deserve to obviously get whatever's coming sentence-wise because that's the right thing to do.
21:17And that might give me a bit of peace.
21:21I deserve whatever I get sentence-wise because that's the right thing to do.
21:27You killed your parents. You stole their money. You lied for years to everybody.
21:34And you're considering the sentence that you might get given because it's the right thing to do.
21:40There is no connect at all with what she's done.
21:44A woman has pleaded guilty to murdering her mother and father.
21:53Virginia McCulloch, aged 37, of Great Baddow, Essex, concealed her parents' bodies for more than four years.
22:06Jailing McCulloch for a minimum 36 years, the judge told her,
22:11your parents were entitled to feel safe in their own beds, in their own home and from their own daughter.
22:23Yeah, she brought quite a few decorative things from here, like the jug that could be seen in the footage with the police cam.
22:35It was like a little ceramic jug with some lavender flowers on it,
22:39and it had some little gypsophilia artificial buds inside.
22:42And she'd got it perched on the bottom of the balister, which was a really weird place to put it,
22:46because I thought you could have looked it over.
22:48And then in the kitchen there was this, like, tall, skinny pink glass vase that she'd bought from us as well.
22:54All I was seeing was stuff that she'd bought from us, and it was just weird seeing it there.
22:59It's just sheer, utter disbelief, really, that she was living there with bodies for, what, four years?
23:08Cheer up, at least you caught the bad guy.
23:18If I was involved in this investigation, I would never forget this for the rest of my life.
23:24This would be one of those standout investigations that I would take to the grave.
23:28It's so bizarre.
23:32The way in which it pans out after the arrest is just like something I've never seen or heard of before.
23:40And I cannot imagine any of those officers will ever forget the day that they went through the door
23:48and found and heard what they did.
23:51Because it's just beyond my experience, and I would suggest the vast majority of police officers' experience across this country.
24:03It's a really delicate situation.
24:30They really don't want to disturb the normal school morning.
24:37But they have to arrest this man with as minimal disruption as possible.
24:45To keep the arrest low-key, officers, mainly female, are wearing civilian clothes, but concealing a body camera.
24:55The body camera is very important in case the footage is needed at a subsequent trial.
25:03In this case, it was.
25:06The location, a primary school on the outskirts of town.
25:10It was just before the start of the school day.
25:15There are pupils in the area. There are parents in the area.
25:18They all know Greg Hill.
25:20You certainly don't see many arrests outside the school, let alone of a headmaster.
25:25I think the reason that most of the officers were women is to try and blend in.
25:31They wouldn't look out of place at the school.
25:37Police officers probably, I would suggest, go there thinking this is going to be quite an easy arrest.
25:44He's a headmaster.
25:46He's an educated person with no criminal record.
25:49It's probably going to be a case of, we'll arrest him, put him in a car, go back to the police station.
25:54And it'll all be done very, very low-key.
25:58Hello there. Is it Mr Hill?
25:59Yeah.
26:00Hello, Mr Hill. I'm PC Hollington from Kingston Police Station.
26:02Yeah.
26:03The time is 8.50. I do need to arrest you.
26:04It's in relation to stalking, causing serious alarm and distress.
26:08I don't have to say anything, but it may harm your defence.
26:10If you do not mention one question, something which you later are only for.
26:12No, I know that.
26:13Anything you do say may be given evidence.
26:14I haven't stalked anyone or done anything, but I do need to find my union.
26:19I need to go inside, need to find my union.
26:21No, no.
26:22No, I'm sorry.
26:23Mr Hill, Mr Hill, Mr Hill.
26:26When someone is first arrested for a crime, they can react in a number of different ways.
26:33One way that I used to see an awful lot is people would try and talk their way out of it.
26:37I can say some words that will stop this happening. I can make it go away.
26:41The headmaster is now under arrest for stalking a junior female teacher.
26:47I do need to find my union. I need to go inside, need to find my union.
26:50No, no.
26:51No, I'm sorry.
26:52Mr Hill, Mr Hill, Mr Hill.
26:54One of your rights.
26:56Listen, I'm not assaulting you.
26:58You are under arrest.
26:59Listen, we are giving you professional courtesy.
27:02Can I just go inside?
27:03No, you are under arrest.
27:04Please listen.
27:05We have given you professional courtesy.
27:06I agree, but can I just go inside?
27:07We have not come in police to you for.
27:09Okay, just say, okay.
27:10Listen.
27:11One of your legal rights is to have a phone call, and that can be the union.
27:15Can you just take your hand off me?
27:16You are starting to walk away, sir, all right?
27:18You are under arrest.
27:19Just take your hand off me, first of all.
27:20Just take your hand off me.
27:21You are causing a scene, and we didn't want to do that, okay?
27:23No, that's fine.
27:24I'm not causing a scene.
27:25My colleagues are going to take you.
27:26You could have waited in school.
27:27We are in plain clothes, and we wanted to wait outside, because we didn't want to go into the
27:30school in front of all of your staff.
27:31I've been assaulted by a police officer.
27:32She's touched my arm.
27:33It's an allegation, okay?
27:34It's an allegation.
27:35I've been assaulted.
27:36I want to go inside and just ring my union.
27:39No, you will not be going inside, Mr Hill, okay?
27:42So, Mr Hill says, you've assaulted me, meaning you've touched me.
27:46But they're quite within their rights.
27:48He's been arrested.
27:49They are allowed to use reasonable force in order to control him, to restrain him.
27:54And the fact that he's trying to walk away and they're holding his arm, more than reasonable.
27:59They're not assaulting him.
28:00He just doesn't like it.
28:01Okay, but I haven't done anything wrong.
28:03That's fine.
28:04We will talk to you about this at interview.
28:05And you could have done this at my house.
28:06You didn't need to come to my school to do this.
28:08She started to walk away.
28:09I haven't walked away.
28:10I'm still by my car.
28:11Could you just turn around the camera, please?
28:13I'm going to start filming now.
28:15Officers standing by in case of emergency are alerted.
28:21When somebody resists arrest, sometimes you will see a situation where you get a lot
28:28of police officers coming in and trying to control that person.
28:32Now, he is quite a big fella.
28:34That backup would be needed so that Mr Hill can be arrested in a way that he doesn't get
28:39hurt and the officers don't get hurt.
28:41I'm going to start filming now because you can see I'm still by my car.
28:44No, don't touch my phone.
28:47That says the backup coming in.
28:49No, don't touch my phone.
28:51The number of officers certainly increases at this point.
28:54Don't touch my phone.
28:55Mr Hill is going to know at this point why he's being arrested.
28:59He's also going to understand what is on his phone and there will be evidence on there
29:03that would back up what the teacher is saying.
29:06Don't touch my phone.
29:07Don't touch my phone.
29:08Do not touch me.
29:10It isn't just this is my personal information on there.
29:14There's also incriminating stuff on there.
29:16Don't touch my phone.
29:17Don't touch my phone.
29:25The junior teacher started at Howard Junior School.
29:29And it was not too long after that that Greg Hill started contacting her via Twitter.
29:39It became more and more personal.
29:42He started to believe that he had fallen in love with her and this made her feel uncomfortable.
29:47And it was unwanted contact.
29:51The unmarried headmaster, aged 48, texted the 22 year old teacher.
29:57Can't wait to see this smile, this beautiful face and wonderful person tomorrow.
30:03I'd love to build a future for us in school and outside of school.
30:07He'd quickly become very obsessed with this member of staff.
30:11You know, things have been ramped up quite a lot.
30:15I'd love to see this.
30:16Get your hand out of your pocket.
30:18No, do not touch me.
30:19Take that off me.
30:20Stop.
30:21Take that off me now.
30:22Mr Hill.
30:23Take that off me now.
30:24You can go on the floor.
30:25We don't want that.
30:26Come on.
30:27Just calm yourself down.
30:28We are trying to do this.
30:29Let go of the handcuff.
30:30Take that off me.
30:31Take that off me.
30:32Do not put your...
30:33You're going to break my finger.
30:34You're going to break my finger.
30:35Let go of the handcuff.
30:36You're going to break my finger.
30:37Let go of the handcuff.
30:38You're going to break my finger.
30:39In the police there's an expression, you plan for the worst but hope for the best.
30:42I don't think these officers would have been expected.
30:45In a situation where very quickly things are starting to get out of control.
30:49And they don't want to be in a position where they're having to manhandle a headteacher
30:54in front of the pupils of that school and the parents.
30:56We've got no set handcuffs.
30:57At the moment we're going to be...
30:58Right.
30:59We're going to be further resisting arrest now.
31:00I'm not resisting arrest.
31:01You really?
31:02You're holding onto the handcuffs.
31:04You are already under arrest, okay?
31:06Calm yourself down.
31:07What do you want to go to the car for?
31:09Yeah, that's fine.
31:10I'm going to search you now.
31:11I haven't...
31:12You're getting put in handcuffs as well now because you've been...
31:14No.
31:15You've already been off-rocked.
31:16You've already been off-rocked.
31:17You've made it happen.
31:18You've made it happen, Mr Hill.
31:19We didn't want this to happen.
31:20I haven't made this happen.
31:21I'm by my car.
31:22They're trying to assault me.
31:23Please.
31:24Please.
31:25If you're watching this video, don't let them delete it.
31:26Mr Hill.
31:27Don't let them delete this video.
31:28Don't let them delete this video.
31:29What are you doing?
31:30Oh, my goodness.
31:31Please.
31:32No, I need to make a phone call to the police.
31:34You're assaulting.
31:35You're hiding my wrist.
31:36You're going to break my wrist.
31:37You're going to break my wrist.
31:38Calm yourself down.
31:39No.
31:48Could you just turn around the camera, please?
31:51Don't touch my phone.
31:54They're trying to assault me.
31:56Please.
31:57If you're watching this video, don't let them delete it.
32:00Mr Hill.
32:01Don't let them delete this video.
32:02Don't let them delete this video.
32:03Don't let them delete this video.
32:04What are you doing?
32:06No.
32:07In Kings Lynn, Norfolk, primary school head teacher Gregory Hill is being arrested on suspicion
32:13of stalking a junior female colleague.
32:15You're assaulting.
32:16You're hiding my wrist.
32:17Right.
32:18You're going to break my wrist.
32:19But as parents drop off their children at the school gate, the headmaster is not going
32:24quietly.
32:25No.
32:26I need to make a phone call to the police.
32:28You're assaulting.
32:29You're hurting my wrist.
32:30Right.
32:31You're going to break my wrist.
32:32On yourself down.
32:33No.
32:34You're assaulting me.
32:35Help me.
32:36Please.
32:37Somebody call the police.
32:38At one point, Greg Hill shouts out, call the police, and they're applying, we are the
32:43police.
32:44Help me.
32:45Please.
32:46We're going to have to get Mark's card here.
32:48I don't care.
32:49I've done nothing wrong.
32:50Help me, please.
32:51Can we get a van?
32:52Please.
32:53I've been assaulted.
32:54I want your badge number.
32:55Absolutely you can.
32:56You're assaulting me.
32:57You can have all the badge numbers you need.
32:59So the best thing to do in the circumstance where he's demanding their badge number is just
33:04calmly, politely, just tell them their name because ultimately he's going to know the name of the person that's arrested them.
33:12What's your badge number?
33:13This is really 1908.
33:14All right, 190 is a complete and utter lie and I hate police corruption.
33:18That's one of the worst things I hate.
33:19He's groping around to try and find something that will stop the officers doing what they're
33:25doing.
33:26They're not going to because they're there to do a job.
33:28He needs to be arrested.
33:29Then I'm not going to go anywhere.
33:30What?
33:31Well, you are going to be coming with us, mate, because you've been placed under arrest.
33:34Yeah, we've popped it on.
33:35But we want to get you up off the wet floor.
33:37I want it recorded in court.
33:38It is recorded.
33:39It is recorded.
33:40Then you're going to get the sack over this.
33:42I'm going to go to professional standards.
33:44You used to be a police officer myself, you idiot.
33:47Okay.
33:48The officers may or may not have known that Mr. Hill was at some point a special constable.
33:54The fact that he tells them that is not going to change anything.
33:57Do not kick.
33:58Do not kick.
33:59Ow!
34:00Ow!
34:01Ow!
34:02Ow!
34:03Ow!
34:04Ow!
34:05So after the queen died, thousands of people were coming to Sandringham to leave flowers,
34:07Paddington bears and corgis.
34:09I went myself and there was a sea of flowers.
34:11I've never seen anything like it.
34:16Greg Hill decided to take 20 to 30 pupils every day to Sandringham to lay flowers and tributes.
34:31And at that time, Kate went over to one of the children from the school who was quite tearful and comforted her.
34:50Showing sympathy, Kate encouraged the little girl to share her feelings for the late queen.
34:56Do you want to put your teddies down there too?
35:00And they went and put a tribute down together.
35:05Mr. Hill was very excited about that.
35:08He posted about that on social media quite a lot and got in touch with us.
35:13And I think it was a story that was picked up nationally that this little girl had been helped by Kate and it was someone from Howard Junior School.
35:23Prince William came and spoke to some of the children.
35:26They'd made this Paddington bear tribute for the queen.
35:29Do you like Paddington?
35:30Yeah.
35:31Did you see the skit with Paddington and my grandmother?
35:33Yeah.
35:34Yes.
35:35It's nice to see you guys.
35:38I'm the head teacher.
35:41Hello, everyone.
35:42Mr. Hill was always quite keen to be involved in those media opportunities.
35:47So what we didn't know at that point was the fact that the junior teacher had been urged to go along every single day that any children went.
35:58Five days in a row he insisted on taking this junior teacher along with him despite having other teachers available and despite her saying that she would rather on certain days stay behind with her year class to get to know them.
36:13It felt inappropriate to the victim because she said that she felt it was widening a gap that had already started to appear between her and some of the other members of staff.
36:26She felt that she was being segregated from those members of staff.
36:31She felt that he was trying to isolate her, a classic abuse of power.
36:46Over the next five months, Hill's harassment continued.
36:50Then he made a critical error.
36:52He was seen taking a photograph of her car while this victim was celebrating her dad's birthday.
37:02After more than a year of the harassment, the victim has had enough.
37:11First, her case was taken to her regional union representative.
37:15When I took the phone call, I was in absolute shock.
37:20One of the first things she asked was, is there any evidence?
37:23And she said, yes, there is evidence.
37:25He's been messaging using Messenger and Facebook.
37:28And I was like, wow.
37:31The union told police this was just the latest of many complaints by young female teachers who had worked for Greg Hill.
37:39I contacted about 20 ex-members of staff, people that had been silenced by Greg, and started gathering statements.
37:49There was a lot of terror as well because he'd terrified them that they would end their career because his position of power and status.
37:56He'd always been really careful, but his behaviours got more erratic and a little bit more dangerous and a little bit more out of control.
38:03Help me, please! I've done nothing wrong! Help me, please! I've been assaulted! I want your badge number!
38:13You've assaulted me!
38:15Help me!
38:17You're going to get a sack over this!
38:20I've gone to professional standards. You used to be a police officer myself, you idiot!
38:24OK.
38:25There comes a point in these situations where, you know, no matter what you say, your words are just not going to be listened to.
38:33They're not going to cooperate.
38:35And they've reached this point now where, essentially, they're having to pick Mr Hill up and carry him to the police van.
38:43Very undignified. He's given them no choice.
38:46Watch his head.
38:49This is that.
38:51I'm dropping. He's resisting. Stop.
38:54Mr Hill, this is unnecessary.
38:56I can't breathe.
38:57Sit up.
38:58This is ridiculous.
38:59Sit up, because if you can't breathe, you need to sit up, don't you?
39:02Or we'll just put you in the recovery position, then, and we'll just leave you on.
39:05I think he's now started to pretend to be unconscious.
39:10Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Please help me, somebody!
39:15This is like that Floyd! This is an assault! This is like that George Floyd in America!
39:20When he brings up George Floyd, he, again, is trying to get control back from these officers.
39:25You can almost imagine him in his mind. What can I do now?
39:30I've threatened them. What can I do now to try and gain control of this situation?
39:34Miss Hill, you can either choose to get in the van or we can bring some more units down here and we can carry you in.
39:38That's up to you. But then you're deprived.
39:39Okay.
39:40You're not cooperating.
39:41You're not cooperating.
39:42You're not cooperating.
39:43Well, that's your own fault for not cooperating, isn't it?
39:44You assault people if they're trying to say, look, I'm innocent. Let me just come with dignity.
39:45Mr Hill.
39:46Mr Hill.
39:47You assault them terribly, do you? You've assaulted me terribly.
39:49Stop biting. Stop biting.
39:50Mr Hill.
39:51Oh, Mr Hill.
39:52What he's actually doing is biting himself. He's biting his lip in order to draw blood. An obvious attempt to try and make it look like he's being hurt by the officers.
40:16Imagine if that video wasn't there and he goes back to the police station and says, look what they've done. Look what they did to me.
40:22Well, actually, you did that to yourself, Mr Hill, when it's on the video.
40:25So that's why those body-worn videos are so important to make it clear to everybody else later on exactly what's happening.
40:32Listen to what I'm saying.
40:33Don't spit it in my face.
40:35Don't spit it in my face.
40:36Just spit it in my face.
40:37Jailing a Norfolk head teacher today for harassment. A judge described video footage of his arrest as bizarre.
40:51You're going to break my finger.
40:52Let go of the handker.
40:53You're going to break my finger.
40:54You're going to have all the various members you need.
40:57There's no need.
40:58I can't feel my arm.
41:00You've broken my watch.
41:02I've been assaulted.
41:03I've got my wrist broken.
41:05I've got my foot broken.
41:07You should have done that to me.
41:08Mr Hill, come on.
41:09OK, well.
41:10You've committed an offence yourself and now you've assaulted me.
41:12Well, we're going to have to carry you, aren't we?
41:14No, you've got to kill me.
41:15Well, we're not going to kill you, are we? That's just silly.
41:18The trainee teacher told the court that Hill was always hounding me with messages and emails late at night.
41:25She lived in fear of seeing him.
41:28But still, her ordeal wasn't over.
41:31An Orfolk headteacher who served 20 weeks in jail is back behind bars tonight after breaching a stalking protection order.
41:42Gregory Hill of Kings Lynn defied his order by posting online photographs of a trainee teacher he'd been stalking.
41:50Hill was returned to jail for six months.
41:53For years, there had been rumours about Greg Hill, but never enough evidence.
41:59The teachers' union was so concerned, it persuaded trainees to steer clear of him.
42:05I emailed young teachers across Norfolk and advised them not to take up a job.
42:11There must have been about 20 young female teachers that must have not applied or taken a job there.
42:17This could have got a lot worse, so I'm glad we did stop it when we could.
42:21Come on!
42:22No!
42:23No!
42:24Mr Hill, no!
42:25They're not there!
42:26The fact that he was arrested within the domain of his school, I believe, was a huge factor in his behaviour.
42:32They're trying to assault me, please!
42:34Please!
42:35That, I believe, is what's really sparked his behaviour and caused him to act like he did.
42:39You're hurting my wrists!
42:40Right.
42:41You're gonna break my wrists!
42:42You're gonna break my wrists!
42:43These videos are really impactful to give a glimpse of the real Mr Hill.
42:47When somebody goes to trial, what they do is they try to present themselves to the judge as,
42:53I'm a reasonable person.
42:54So, that video would have been hugely impactful for the prosecution to give a real glimpse of what he's like.
43:01You tried to hurt me!
43:03You put his cuffs on too tight!
43:05That's assault!
43:06You've assaulted me!
43:07Come on!
43:08No!
43:09Back week out.
43:10No!
43:11No!
43:12No!
43:13He's auditioned by my little brother.
43:16Have assault in me!
43:17Come on!
43:18No!
43:30Not Mayor!
43:31No!
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