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00:00Welcome to the SPTN channel, this is a series of videos every week of SPTN with Lawyers and Thắng.
00:08And especially today, Thắng will be invited to hear the conversation with the female female Loretta Sanchez from Washington DC.
00:17And right now, in the room of SPTN, Thắng has the female female female female Loretta Sanchez.
00:23Hello, Congressman.
00:24Hello, it's always a pleasure to be here on SPTN.
00:27Oh, we love you present here.
00:29We are going to talk about legislation that affect the communist government in Vietnam.
00:42We assume that you probably are very active in Washington DC representing the American people in a lot of issues,
00:51and yet you still remember the Vietnamese American.
00:54Well, first of all, I sit here and I live in one of the largest Vietnamese communities outside of Vietnam.
01:01And I have to tell you that this community brings such a diversity and such a life to my own life here, to my community.
01:09So, I'm really thankful for that.
01:12So, I hear all the time from my neighbors and my friends that things are happening in Vietnam and this internet blogger issue is such an important one.
01:22I even have called in the vice president of Yahoo who came to visit me and a representative of Google because I want to make sure that in Vietnam, it doesn't happen what happened in China, which was to censor the internet on the Chinese people.
01:39We don't want that happening with Vietnam.
01:42Thank you very much.
01:44Thank you very much.
01:46What was the question of the Chinese people has us who is on this web WiFi Daniels, who's the main idea.
01:53Thank you very much.
01:58So, Deb, thank you very much for wondering and to all your comments,
02:01we are happy to be here.
02:04But she always wanted to come back to this community in this area.
02:09This is one of the biggest community in Hoa Kỳ.
02:11She said that in the past, the internet is one of the main concerns of her.
02:15She has written a letter to the CEO of Google and Yahoo.
02:20She asked her to meet her to talk about the freedom, information and internet in Vietnam.
02:28One of the ways that people here talk to their families back in Vietnam is through the internet.
02:38And not only is it expensive, but you know, we can do it on off hours, etc.
02:44But also, it's also a way we hear what is happening within Vietnam.
02:48So when the government over there starts cutting off everything,
02:51then we have less an ability to understand the suffering, the issues and what's going on there.
02:58And I'm very concerned when I see so many of these internet bloggers being imprisoned
03:03and even the lawyer representing some of these internet bloggers was, you know, put in prison.
03:08I think that's wrong.
03:10One of the things that Bà Sanchei thinks that happens the most often is that all of us in the United States,
03:16when we talk about foreign people in Vietnam, they are using the internet network.
03:20On the other hand, we have any information that we need to ask people from here,
03:23they are using the internet network.
03:25One of the things that we have to do is that many people on the internet are also using the internet network.
03:31And there are blogs that write about the internet and the social media network.
03:36And there are also some people who have been arrested and that they are being arrested.
03:38And there are also some people who have been arrested and that they are using the internet network.
03:51So we have to keep the information in the country and outside the country.
03:54So we have to keep the information on the internet network.
03:56So I mentioned, talking about the internet,
03:57if there are no more concerns about the internet network.
04:02And in unison, what is your question?
04:05What do you ask?
04:05How many US government or women supported HR 672 that you introduced in the house.
04:22So, I introduced, talking about the internet and how important it was for Vietnam to keep
04:28it open, and it's House Resolution 672, and I have now 15 co-sponsors, both Democrats
04:36and Republicans, who are working on this with me.
04:40And we are going to go and make an even bigger push, and hopefully, I've spoken to Nancy
04:46Pelosi, the Speaker of the House, and I hope that before the end of December, we are able
04:51to take a vote on this Internet Freedom Act.
04:54I think it's incredibly important.
04:56This law is a law about the legal issue on the Internet.
05:00And now, there are 30 people who have won.
05:03The Speaker of the House has said that there are 16 people who agree with this law,
05:10called the Freedom Internet Act.
05:11The Speaker of the House also talked to Nancy Pelosi, the Speaker of the House.
05:19The Speaker of the House.
05:21I'm hoping to get it in the next couple of months.
05:24You know, the committee to protect journalists in the entire world, this committee that protects
05:30them to make insurers when they go into wars, when they go and be into dictatorship type of governments,
05:36communist governments, that they're protected. They keep an eye on them, and they put out information when journalists are taken.
05:45They have named Vietnam as one of the 10 worst countries to be a blogger.
05:59And even the Reporters Without Borders, the Reporters Without Borders, another international organization,
06:11says that the Vietnamese government is an enemy of the Internet.
06:16So it's incredibly important that we pass this piece of legislation.
06:20Yes, yes.
06:21And the other person says that I hope that in the end of the House,
06:24that they will be brought into the House and the House of the House.
06:26So that they will be brought to the Vice President, and they will be brought to the House of the House.
06:28And so this legislation is basically what is the
06:58primary function of the legislation to punish them.
07:28You know, they're the ones out in the community seen as things actually happen.
07:33And so this legislation would say stop it, would sanction, would put Vietnam to be looked at by the world.
07:43It's a pressure sort of an HR resolution that we're doing.
07:47Yeah, vâng.
07:47Một câu hỏi khác thì đáng xin được hỏi bà Lorna Secherts.
07:51Là, chính phủ Hoa Kỳ xem quyền sử dụng Internet như là một quyền tự do phát biểu ý kiến.
07:56Trong trường hợp này, phía bên chính quyền Cộng sản Việt Nam thì đàn áp quyền này bắt bớ những người viết nhật ký.
08:02Thì chính quyền Hoa Kỳ sẽ có những biện pháp nào để mà coi như áp lực Cộng sản Việt Nam phải chấm dứt hành động này?
08:10In the past, the U.S. government viewed the usage of the Internet as a freedom of expression.
08:18But in this case, the Vietnamese government tried to suppress it by arresting the blocker and also the journalists.
08:24In this situation, the American government, the U.S. government will have any kind of action to put pressure on them stopping arresting the blocker?
08:35Well, I think there's a lot. You know, we send a lot of humanitarian aid, which, of course, we don't want to touch because we want that aid to really get down to some of the poverty areas,
08:45some of the areas that, you know, when the Delta flood happened, for example, to some of the Montagnards, others who are really in dire straits.
08:56But there's a lot of work that we do now with Vietnam, rewriting their laws.
09:02If we're rewriting their laws for commerce, why can't we also work and push them to rewriting their laws with respect to how they treat their own citizens,
09:12especially with respect to freedom of the press and freedom of expression, freedom of assembly.
09:19These three are so important. The Internet is on the forefront of that.
09:23And so I think we need to continue to put the pressure on this Vietnamese government.
09:28One of the things that we are doing right now is that we have to help help Vietnam about the issues that we call people in Vietnam,
09:39in terms of the human rights, and we also have to help Vietnam write some laws about the trade.
09:46So I would ask this community, which understands the importance, because so many of you speak with your family members on the Internet,
09:53to help us first talk to other congresspeople to get them to sign up,
10:00because so many of you speak with your family members on the Internet to help us.
10:06First, talk to other congresspeople to get them to sign up.
10:08So far we have, I believe, two congressmembers here in Orange County, aside from myself who are signed up,
10:13we have three others we need to get as co-sponsors on this.
10:17Call to your family members in Houston, in Massachusetts.
10:24You know, I was in Massachusetts the other day.
10:26There is a large Vietnamese population right there.
10:28We need to get many more congresspeople to know this.
10:31Most congresspeople don't even know this is going on.
10:49They have no idea what goes on in Vietnam.
10:51This is one of the reasons why I set up a whole Vietnam caucus so that we could talk to people and to the other congresspeople
10:59Congress people let them know what's going on but we need your help contact
11:02your Congress people ask them to please be on this it's important because we the
11:09bloggers this is a very scary thing to be put in prison and what we saw was one
11:15of the bloggers recently in order to be released she had to say that she would
11:20stop blogging this is a gag this is a gag on people so we need to have it stop
11:27and we need the help of this community help and call your congressperson talk to
11:32your family members in other places get them to call their congressperson and
11:35let's get some more signatures on this so we can pass this in the House of
11:38Representatives.
11:57Thank you so much.
11:59Thank you so much.
12:02Thank you so much.
12:06The important thing is that we have to continue to fight.
12:08And in the past, for example,
12:10for example, Nguyễn Ngọc Như Quỳnh, one of the people who have been killed in Cộng sản Vietnam,
12:13we have to give you a chance to stop the fact that you don't have to write a journal, blogger,
12:18and then you have to do it with your own actions.
12:20And you have to say that this is really important for our community.
12:25So we have to continue to do it with you.
12:28We have to write all of the people that you are,
12:30and especially in Quảng Cám, we have to write all of the people that you are doing.
12:34Dạ vâng, trước khi trở lại phần bài luận tin tức tối ngày hôm nay,
12:37Trần Đắng xin mời quý khán giả theo dõi phần thông tin thương mại của đài truyền hình SPTN.
12:40Sau đó luật sư đổ phủ và dân biểu Loretta Sanchez sẽ trở lại với quý khán giả.
12:44Thương mại của đài truyền hình SPTN sau đây luật sư đổ phủ Trần Thắng và bà dân biểu Loretta Sanchez sẽ trở lại với quý khán giả.
12:50Vâng, anh Phụ Phú có câu hỏi gì cho bà Sanchez?
12:52Sanchez có cảm thấy là cái dự luật này sẽ gặp cái trở ngại gì về vấn đề mà thương mại Hoa Kỳ đang có Việt Nam bây giờ trong tình hình hiện giờ đó.
13:01Thì chúng ta chưa đổi đại sứ.
13:03Thì bà nghĩ là cái dự luật này khi mà thông qua nó thì sẽ bị những chống đối nào của phía bên kia, những người bảo chống dự luật này.
13:10Do you think there is any opposition to this legislation, this piece of legislation is going to be proposed?
13:15And why do you think there's going to be opposition to this legislation?
13:19Well, I don't think there's going to be opposition.
13:21I just believe that the Congress is so busy.
13:24We're doing health care, we're doing climate change,
13:27we're voting on whether to stay in the Afghanistan war,
13:31we're working on how to get out of Iraq,
13:34we have the financial institution meltdown.
13:37All of these things plus just trying to keep the economy going
13:42and voting for the monies that the federal government spends into the economy.
13:47This is a very busy schedule.
13:49And in that somehow we have to make sure that we get this marked up in the International Relations Committee
13:55and that we move it in through the House.
13:57So it's not because people would be opposed to it,
14:00it's just that there's a lot of things moving through the Congress.
14:03But I have a good feeling for this.
14:06I think we'll see it move November, hopefully by November.
14:12There shouldn't be any opposition to it.
14:14Who can be against expression?
14:17Vâng, Bà Giang biểu Gordon Sánchez,
14:19Vâng đã trả lời cho biết là bà không tin rằng là có những sự chống đối nào tại Hạ Viện.
14:23Tuy nhiên Hạ Viện, Hoa Kỳ hiện tại đang có những thời khóa biểu rất là bận rộn về vấn đề.
14:28Hai cuộc chiến tranh đang xảy ra là A Phú Hãng và tại Iraq,
14:31cùng lúc là phải lo vấn đề kích thích kinh tế,
14:33cùng lúc là lo vấn đề về cải tổ vấn đề y tế.
14:37Cho nên đó là thời điểm rất là bận biểu.
14:39Cho nên điều quan trọng nhất là làm sao đưa dự luật này thông qua của ủy ban ngoại giao của Hạ Viện Hoa Kỳ.
14:45Và bà tin rằng là không có sự chống đối nào cả.
14:47Và sau khi thông qua được ủy ban này rồi thì sẽ đưa ra.
14:50Trong nguyên thời khóa biểu bận biểu như vậy,
14:53thì bà hi vọng sẽ có một kẻ hở để bà đưa dự luật này ra.
14:56Và sẽ được thông qua vào khoảng tháng 11 và tháng 12 của năm nay.
15:00Ngoài ra trong vấn đề dự luật này,
15:02khi mà đưa ra về vấn đề phạt Cộng xã Việt Nam,
15:05thì trên vấn đề này thì bà Sanchei nghĩ như thế nào về vấn đề phạt Cộng xã Việt Nam
15:10khi họ bắt bỏ tù những người viết trang nhật ký trên Internet.
15:13In the sanction portion of this legislation,
15:16in what way do we sanction the Communist government
15:19if they continue arresting the people, the blocker?
15:22Well, you know, we're one of the things that we're doing.
15:25We can't go after humanitarian aid,
15:27but we can go after other aid that we provide.
15:29We provide aid to redo their laws.
15:33We provide...
15:35Right now I have a big debate going on
15:37within my colleagues
15:39who sit on the military committee with me of the Congress.
15:42Because, of course, Vietnam would like to see
15:45more interchange with our military in Vietnam.
15:48We saw, just this past year,
15:50the first ship, military ship of ours,
15:53go into port in Vietnam.
15:56I personally don't want to be doing this with them.
16:01If...
16:02Why should we work with them on a military basis
16:05if at the same time their own government
16:08is going after their people and the expression
16:10and all the other human rights that they're so terrible on?
16:13So, you know, I would like to stop or halt the military collaboration with them.
16:20I would like to see our lawyers stop working on some of the commercial interests for Vietnam.
16:27I think we can sanction them on trade, quite frankly.
16:30And it hurts me because I know that some of this money trickles down to our families there.
16:39But not enough.
16:41I mean, that government is enriching itself, as you know.
16:47Yes.
16:48Bà Loretta Sanchez vừa cho biết
16:49that one of the aspects of the trừng phạt
16:52from the Cộng sản of Vietnam
16:53over the course of the Vietnam
16:54over the course of the book,
16:55or the issue of the Internet.
16:57The first thing is that the issue of the trừng phạt
17:00is that we can't be able to
17:01to the amount of money liên quan
17:02to the charge of the government.
17:03But we can be able to the amount of money liên quan
17:06to the charge of the government.
17:08For example, the issue of the conflict between the two sides,
17:10the two sides,
17:11in the last few minutes,
17:12the Cộng sản of Vietnam
17:13has been branded with the Vietnam
17:16and the two years before
17:17there have been a ship of the war
17:19for the U.S. to Vietnam.
17:20Now, it is important to be
17:23to not to do that
17:24to deal with the war.
17:25So if not,
17:26there is no reason
17:27to deal with the war,
17:28to deal with the war,
17:29but to deal with the war.
17:31And a problem,
17:32the issue of the war is to do
17:33the harm to the war.
17:35The harm to the war is to do
17:36the harm to the war.
17:37The harm to the war is the harm to the war.
17:39that's a difficult task because you know walk the fine line with your colleagues well you know we have
17:51several things with respect to the Vietnamese government and Vietnam forward in the Congress
17:56right now we have the internet I think that's going to be easier to pass we have the Vietnam
18:01Human Rights Act that we are going to bring up on the floor I've already talked to the speaker and
18:07we're going to work and bring that up but we have a harder and we've always had the hardest problem
18:11in trying to get that done in the Senate so those two things are very important on the forefront and
18:18then of course the third thing we have is a letter telling the our administration our Obama
18:24administration that we want to see the country Vietnam back on the list of particular countries
18:31of particular concern with respect to religious freedoms even Amnesty International and the
18:37Commission on Human Rights that just went out and took a look at Vietnam has said that they deserve
18:42to be on that list of countries of particular concern so those are the three things right now that we have
18:47in front and we're trying to push so it's a it's a difficult thing to do but I think that we can do
18:53one maybe two if we're lucky maybe three okay that's your time I'll write this out since you I'm
19:00going to stress just said that right now that we have three things that we have come out
19:02that our musimy Hạ viện Kỳ này Kỳ này thứ nhất là cái dự luật là liên quan đến với
19:08the Internet số 72 thứ hai la tái dự luật nhân quyền trong thời gian vừa qua đã bị chống đối ở
19:13tại hạ thương viện Hoa Kỳ và đó đã được thông qua toàn bộ ở Hạ viện và thứ ba đó là cái vấn
19:18It's a good list.
19:43When you put out a list, anything like negotiation, you can put in ten items you want. Maybe you're lucky you get four or five. You get four or five, we're in great shape.
19:51And remember, we're also working with Hillary Clinton, and I have been talking to her on the phone.
19:57I hope to meet with her soon.
19:58But the whole issue of the sex trafficking, and we know that Vietnam and a lot of young girls go from there to Taiwan.
20:05I'm going to, hopefully, in the next year to make a meeting with Father Hong over there, and Taiwan who helps our Vietnamese young women who get trafficked over there.
20:16So, there, I mean, aside from the normal things we have to work on in the Congress, there are many things that we're working on with respect to Vietnam.
20:59In the past, I've known that you wrote a letter to the chairman of Google and Yahoo regarding the asking them not to cooperate with the Vietnamese government in stopping the blocker.
21:25What is their response?
21:27Oh, they completely understand.
21:29They don't want to happen what happened in Vietnam, what happened in China.
21:34They're working with us.
21:35I can't tell you the strategies that we came up with to stop that, because if I told you, I'm sure the Vietnamese are also watching this program, the communist government.
21:45And then they would know what we're trying to do.
21:49But I will tell you that I have met with them.
21:51We have real concrete things that we have done in order to ensure that there is more openness and that they don't get shut down by the Vietnamese government.
22:39So we have some tools to deal with the Cộng sản Việt Nam and the Cộng sản Việt Nam to open up the issues that people write and write and write and write.
22:52Thank you very much.
23:06Thank you very much.
23:08Thank you both for having me as usual.
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