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02:20Noland sentenced him to a total of five and a half years in jail, saying he couldn't imagine
02:24a more reprehensible type of fraud.
02:27There was a certain belief that if someone was that good at hurling, that they were decent
02:33people, because there was something about the discipline needed to be a good hurler and
02:36the inherent decency that that suggested.
02:40Like a good hurler was a good person.
02:43DJ Kerry is accused of inducing 23 people to pay him money after he had fraudulently claimed
02:49to have cancer.
02:51DJ Kerry had a remarkable career as a hurler and nobody would take that away from him.
02:56We didn't just love him, we trusted him.
02:59We're blinded by our heroes.
03:01He is the ultimate hitman and we mean that in the nicest possible way.
03:05DJ Kerry.
03:08Most people have no idea what a bad person that man is.
03:13A very evil type individual.
03:17A con man is somebody who is very plausible and comes along and convinces you to part
03:23with your money for something that isn't true where it isn't the case.
03:26And DJ did that.
03:27Yes, of course, definitely he's a con man.
03:30No question about it.
03:31He's a nice con man.
03:32I've been waiting really.
04:00I've been waiting really for the last two and a half years to get to this point, wondering would he plead guilty at the last minute, and that's actually what happened.
04:13Hi, I'm just outside. I was so sorry. I had no reception in the building. Now he's pleaded guilty. It changes things, you know, so I said all that to him.
04:21So I was relieved because I've gotten to know a lot of the victims. As soon as it was over, talking to them, and they're relieved, their sense relief. These are decent people.
04:33I am an accountant. First time in my life I had a bit of money. And here I go and give 17 grand away to a stranger without checking anything. It's embarrassing.
04:42It was very convincing. We were in the throes of our own struggles, and I kind of said, Jesus, sure, what else would you do? You'd help someone out. She was happy to be able to help someone.
04:55I gave him 5,000, and that was it, and I forgot about it. I absolutely never, never occurred to me that I didn't have cancer.
05:03There's a lot of people out there who still don't believe that DGK was a bad guy, and that's the frightening thing.
05:10I didn't hear her name, so because she was paid back, I don't...
05:14DJ, finally, the law caught up with him. And I think that he had nowhere else to turn. He was cornered.
05:23So he obviously accepted the deal that was done. So instead of facing 21 charges, he pleaded guilty to 10.
05:31And what was interesting for me, watching him as he stood there in the dock, was that when each charge was put to him, one by one, with the person's name or the people's names involved, he had to say the word guilty.
05:45Guilty. Guilty.
05:48Tell me, I have been hearing all about you as well.
05:50But now, he just wasn't married, he was fucking married, he had to go to the place.
05:51Because he was always married now.
05:52Oh, George and the googling, she's projeto.
05:53Grificant surtout of him to come
05:57talkin' to Cheryl Green.
05:59Rawr, basil, Sid.
06:01Howard Cooper,
06:04Gordon is just half an hour outside Kilkenny city.
06:09It's really is a beautiful, scenic place.
06:13It's a small community, rural community.
06:15Es una gran comunidad, una gran comunidad, un gran espíritu que trabaja juntos y trabaja para todos en la comunidad.
06:22Si Mother Teresa hubiera sido nacido en Clilkenny y no hubiera hecho la Comorga Team,
06:29ella no hubiera hecho la Comorga de Clilkenny.
06:32Si sabes lo que quiero decir.
06:33Es la cultura.
06:36Sí.
06:40Todos saben sobre hurling y todos quieren hablar sobre él.
06:44Y el amor de hurling es endemic.
06:48Podrían ir a un negocio, como el domingo, después de un match,
06:51y escuchar la gente, ¿qué piensas de eso?
06:54Y no tienen que decir, ¿qué piensas de la matcha?
06:57La gente sabía qué piensas.
07:00Y todos tenían algo que decir sobre él.
07:03Todo lo que consumía la Comorga.
07:05La Comorga.
07:06La Comorga.
07:08La Comorga.
07:09La Comorga.
07:10La Comorga.
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07:21La Comorga.
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07:23La Comorga.
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07:25La Comorga.
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07:50La Comorga.
07:51La Comorga.
07:52La Comorga.
07:53Hablando de un niño pequeño,
07:55digamos que era 4 o 5 años,
07:57y tenía el hirly en su mano,
07:59y iba a la escuela,
08:01por ejemplo, un metro y medio,
08:03con el hirly,
08:05se quedaba en el hirly.
08:07Se quedaba en la escuela,
08:09se quedaba en la escuela,
08:11y se quedaba en la noche,
08:13y se quedaba en la noche.
08:15Así que diría que la mayoría de la vida
08:17se quedaba en el hirly.
08:23Cuando estaba creciendo,
08:25yo no diría que tenía una vida fácil.
08:27Se llamaba a veces
08:29el pequeño hombre,
08:31porque él era tan pequeño
08:33en la clase hacia sus familiares.
08:35Como puedo decir,
08:37no exactamente profesional.
08:41Es un gran gran.
08:43Y se dice...
08:45Este es el más interesante
08:47porque es la primera vez
08:49que he visto a Deja
08:51en la escuela de la escuela
08:53en el 13ºC.
08:54También,
08:55se puede ver cómo pequeño
08:56él es.
08:57We would play a hirly matches
08:59en la escuela,
09:00y a veces que no,
09:02Deja podría ser absent
09:03en la mañana.
09:04Pero nunca se preocupaba
09:05porque sabía que
09:06se quedaba en la escuela
09:08en la escuela.
09:09Se tenía sus prioridades,
09:11y nunca se perdía.
09:13La primera vez que se quedaba
09:15en el hirly,
09:16en la escuela de la escuela.
09:17A simple life,
09:19a country boy,
09:20from a very humble
09:22background.
09:23There were times
09:24when the family struggled,
09:25but there were people
09:26in the GA community
09:27that looked out for them.
09:28Deja's mother
09:29actually ended up
09:30getting a job
09:31as a cook
09:32in St Ciaran's College,
09:34which is a very
09:36prestigious secondary school
09:37which Deja attended.
09:39That's where his
09:40hurling career took off.
09:41At the time Ciaran's College
09:43was known as
09:44the hurling school.
09:45The minute you walked
09:46in the gates
09:47of St Ciaran's College
09:48you could just
09:49see and feel
09:50the atmosphere.
09:51We went there,
09:52first to hurl
09:53and second
09:54to get an education.
09:56Word started to spread
09:57about Ciaran's College
09:58had quite a good team.
09:59Then there was word
10:00about there was
10:01this little fella.
10:02He was really,
10:03really something special.
10:04People that might be
10:05only going to
10:06senior matches
10:07that you'd meet
10:08but suddenly they
10:09were going to
10:10underage matches.
10:11A great ball in there.
10:12And it's in the net.
10:13It's a great goal there
10:14for St Ciaran.
10:15Scored by DJ Carey.
10:16The word coming through
10:17was did you see
10:18this guy DJ Carey?
10:19That time he was
10:20commonly known
10:21as the Dodger.
10:22He could weave
10:23and dodge around
10:24rocks and lads
10:25trying to
10:26get the ball out.
10:27He was just there
10:28to tip the ball out
10:29and he'd have it
10:30gone through.
10:31He could weave
10:32and dodge around
10:33rocks and lads
10:34trying to get the ball
10:35out.
10:36He was just there
10:37to tip the ball out
10:38and he'd have it
10:40gone four or five metres
10:42ahead of him
10:43and he'd gone
10:44and still lads
10:45would be looking
10:46for the ball.
10:47For a small guy
10:48he had that toughness
10:49but it was his skill
10:50that marked him out.
10:51He could do things
10:52with the ball.
10:54People said
10:55wait till he gets
10:56on to the county team.
10:58If you went to Ciaran's
10:59you had a very good chance
11:00of playing
11:01with Kilkenny teams.
11:02But what entered our head
11:04at that time
11:05was to make the team
11:06that you were trying
11:07to make.
11:08Probably one of the greatest
11:10pieces of advice
11:11I ever got
11:12was
11:13you know
11:14if you can get a jersey
11:15from one to fifteen
11:16you take it.
11:17He follows the ball.
11:20He
11:21it's all over
11:23the game is all over
11:24and thank you
11:25The first big break
11:26came in 1988
11:28when St Ciaran's College
11:29won the
11:30the All-Ireland Colleges
11:32final
11:33and that was massive
11:34for DJ.
11:35People of great prominence
11:37had watched DJ Carey
11:38play
11:39because
11:40he was different
11:41and
11:42some of the skills
11:43that he showed
11:44on the field
11:45we hadn't seen before.
11:46They were really
11:47staggered
11:48by the display
11:49and
11:50certainly others
11:51that said
11:52you know
11:53he was some kind
11:54of a wizard.
11:55I said to myself
11:56one day
11:57I don't need to teach this guy
11:58anything really
11:59because he had everything.
12:00temperament
12:01he had skill
12:02he had timing
12:03he had everything
12:04I think
12:05when he gets a hurling stick
12:06in his hand
12:07he becomes a different person
12:08it's like a different world
12:09and I think
12:10just for the sheer pleasure
12:11of it
12:12I think he does it.
12:13It's All-Ireland Under-21 hurling
12:14again
12:15it's DJ Carey
12:17the star of Mania Kilkenny win
12:19and that's a beautiful fight
12:21by Carey.
12:22From a promising minor
12:24in 88
12:25to an actual senior player
12:27in 89
12:29then in 1990
12:31Kilkenny won
12:33the league
12:34that year
12:35and he began
12:36to make his name
12:37in doing so.
12:39He was
12:41being described
12:42as the next superstar
12:43of hurling.
12:45DJ Carey
12:46a shot
12:47and a goal!
12:48Yes!
12:49The finish by Carey
12:50and a goal!
12:51The hype was building
12:53and you could kind of
12:54see and hear
12:56this train coming
12:57from a long way off.
13:04So looking back
13:05over his life
13:06I'd say there was
13:07a sense of grief
13:08in the household
13:09and there were
13:10two children
13:11that died
13:12quite tragically.
13:13DJ had an older brother
13:15who died in a cot death
13:17and then he had a brother
13:19who died on the farm
13:20in a farming accident
13:21when he was three
13:22or four years of age
13:23so I'm sure
13:24this had a profound effect.
13:30DJ was different
13:31to the other team mates.
13:33There was a little
13:34nervousness.
13:35He'd get jittery.
13:37DJ wasn't sitting
13:38at the back of the bus
13:39with the boys
13:40having the crack.
13:41His upbringing.
13:42He was clean living.
13:43His lack of interest
13:45in drink.
13:46He wasn't interested
13:47in that kind of stuff.
13:50He wouldn't let the team
13:51down.
13:52He was an excellent team player
13:53but he didn't have
13:54the same rapport
13:55with the team
13:56and the people his age.
13:58If you scratch the surface
14:03you realise that
14:04there were times
14:05when he cut a lonely figure.
14:07He spent hours
14:09outside the family home
14:11practising
14:12trying to hit
14:13the perfect spot
14:14that he picked out
14:15on the gable end.
14:17I think DJ has
14:19very few people
14:20in his inner circle.
14:21I think growing up
14:26there was an unselfishness
14:28in me.
14:29Probably in life
14:30in general
14:31that's the way I am.
14:33But growing up
14:35when you play
14:36with bigger guys
14:37you're not really
14:38able to run through them
14:39and by and large
14:40you're not really able
14:41to run around them.
14:42You have to learn over time.
14:43Unless you're
14:44the toughest
14:45the hardest
14:46the most skilful
14:47the fittest
14:48the fastest
14:49you won't be champions.
14:50it's as simple as that.
14:54There's always
14:55a certain madness
14:56no matter how
14:57cool a guy is
14:58there's always a certain madness.
14:59And the big thing
15:00was to hit the chimney.
15:01I don't think
15:02that will ever leave.
15:16The word was out about him.
15:17The speed
15:18and the alertness.
15:20There was an electricity
15:21about
15:22when he got the ball.
15:23People would
15:24half stand up
15:25or sit up
15:26in the stand
15:27when a movement
15:28would start with him.
15:29The individual
15:31scores he got
15:32and things he did
15:33on the pitch
15:34was courageous
15:35in his decision making
15:36you know.
15:37John Hoyne
15:38who's trapped it
15:39through the centre.
15:40When he took the ball
15:41good God to him.
15:42He was an unstoppable force.
15:43And I suppose
15:44for a defender
15:45who was trying
15:46to defend against him
15:47trying to anticipate
15:49where he was coming from
15:50or where he was going
15:51was just something
15:52that was out of the extraordinary.
15:53After him there was Oli Baker.
15:55DJ steadying himself
15:57turning it in beautifully
15:58and putting it over the...
15:59Incredible.
16:00Incredible.
16:01Incredible player.
16:02He had a turn of pace
16:03and a turn of speed
16:04and a touch
16:05that you couldn't coach.
16:07He just had it.
16:08is in space.
16:14If anyone
16:15if they're new to the game
16:16if they really want
16:17to see a game properly
16:19go down
16:20and look
16:21as closely
16:22at eye level
16:23as you can
16:24to that game
16:25and there's where
16:26you're really going to see it
16:27at its best.
16:32He was probably one of the first
16:33that actually moved
16:34around the field
16:35like he could be found
16:36in the middle of the field
16:37rooting out a ball
16:38and it's gone to somebody else
16:40but he'd be on the edge of the square
16:41within seconds
16:42and when the ball was delivered in
16:43and I would have remembered
16:44you know
16:45a crowd in the stand
16:46from all clubs
16:47clapping him
16:48after maybe a score.
16:49He was a superstar.
16:51Here he heels to Paul McKillen.
16:54The best one was the ball
16:55against Antrim.
16:57The super reflex reaction
16:59of the crossbar.
17:02Gathering in around the house
17:03sweeping
17:04across the ball
17:05The skills that we saw
17:08the star quality
17:10they're the kind of highs
17:11you can't
17:12capture again.
17:22That's what makes hurling
17:23the best game in the world.
17:24He was kind of becoming known
17:27beyond Ken Kenney.
17:29If you were a hurling fan
17:31you were hearing
17:32about D.J. Carey.
17:36In 1992
17:37in Ireland
17:39in the fight against Cork
17:41it was a wet day
17:42a greasy surface.
17:43The force of the cross towards D.J. Carey
17:45looking for the first score of the match.
17:46They got a penalty
17:48before half time.
17:49Kenny were finding it hard
17:51to stay in touch.
17:53They really needed a goal
17:55and D.J. being D.J.
17:57he took his run up
17:59connected with the ball
18:01and of course
18:02he kicked up
18:03off the wet sod
18:04and
18:06beat all the guys
18:07on the line.
18:08O'Done scored two more goals
18:20in the second half
18:21D.J.'s goal
18:22for the penalty
18:23was the one
18:24that kept him
18:25in touch
18:26and gave them the platform
18:27from the second half
18:28to go and win it.
18:30We're defending the champions
18:31of 1992
18:321993
18:35not a great hour
18:37and finally
18:38pero ha hecho lo suficiente.
18:41DJ Carey, 20 metros atrás.
18:43Y DJ era el año de la edad de 1993.
18:48Así que aquí fue la prueba de que el hype no había sido desplazado.
18:52Todos los que vimos en Goran cuando era joven,
18:55sabían lo que estaban hablando.
18:57Esto era lo que había llegado.
18:59El día después de un All-Ireland win,
19:09es realmente algo muy especial.
19:11El flujo en la calle, la radio local,
19:14todo lo que hablaba de ellos.
19:15Y algo que les da gente mucha joya aquí.
19:18La semana después de un All-Ireland win,
19:20se volvían a todos los escuelos con el cup,
19:22y la gran excitement era que DJ fuera ahí.
19:25Y eso fue increíble.
19:26DJ, DJ, DJ!
19:28DJ, DJ, DJ!
19:35You almost felt like you had met him,
19:37because you felt like you had witnessed
19:40someone giving their all.
19:42So you almost felt like you knew him,
19:44even if you didn't.
19:47I mean, in Kilkenny, when we had no Kardashians,
19:50these fellas, you know, they're like gods,
19:52and the young ones would absolutely be mad about them.
19:55He had an aura about him then that was just beyond comment.
19:59Like, people just flocked around.
20:02So I just happened to be looking at it.
20:04He just picked me up and said,
20:05hello, how are you?
20:06So I was blessed.
20:08I remember one time queuing for tickets for an All-Ireland,
20:13and DJ turned up.
20:15But I remember he went to queue,
20:17along with everybody else.
20:19And everyone said, no, DJ, you don't have to,
20:21you go on, you know, you go on and get your tickets.
20:23No, no, and he was insisting he'd queue, you know.
20:26So everybody just basically was delighted that he was there.
20:29You know, you could go home and tell everyone that DJ was in the queue,
20:31and that was a big deal, you know.
20:33Well, you've all done very well,
20:34and I'm delighted to call forward the prize winners.
20:37I was involved in Hurling so much
20:39that it kept me out of an awful lot of trouble.
20:41It keeps me healthy, you know, it keeps me in good shape.
20:44You're kept out of any scrapes that are going on around the town.
20:47He was fantastic with people, you know, even as a young guy,
20:51his interaction with the kids.
20:53He visited schools, you know, presented medals.
20:56A great ambassador for the sport.
20:58Still only 27 years old and already a legend,
21:02DJ Carey started the day with an activity he loves dearly,
21:05meeting and inspiring young hurlers.
21:08Maybe something that I said or someone else said
21:10will help you on the road to your success.
21:12Thanks very much.
21:14The energy he gave to the schools
21:17and the visits he would have paid to small clubs
21:20and how he had time to go to the weakest of clubs
21:24and deprived areas and give time to them.
21:27But, I mean, you hear stories of him ending up up the north now,
21:31up around Antrim.
21:32I wasn't sure if he went down around Tipperary or that,
21:34but he would have been very welcome there.
21:37This is taken by DJ Carey.
21:39There's another goal here for him, surely.
21:41Snapped up delightfully.
21:43So in the 90s, early on as a young man,
21:46he met Christine O'Keefe.
21:48They married in 1995.
21:50Christine was a lovely, ordinary country girl
21:53and a lot of people thought she was very good for DJ
21:56because she'd ground him.
21:58You know, when he's travelling here, there and everywhere
22:01and dealing with the pressures of fame,
22:03that he could always come home to Christine.
22:05They had two young children.
22:08A few years into the marriage, the boys came along
22:10and Christine kept things going at home for him.
22:14She must have found it hard because there were such period,
22:16long periods of time when she wouldn't see DJ.
22:20DJ was training in the evening, he was working all day,
22:23he was travelling at night to medal presentations and he wasn't at home very much.
22:33This is probably by 90th or 100th since September.
22:36It's just night after night after night.
22:39Oftentimes it's very difficult for All-Ireland champions to make a promise
22:45and then they want to carry out that promise.
22:48And it leads on then into mid-season and then an odd injury is picked up
22:52and you haven't the pre-season work done and you're that bit softer
22:56and fellas are praising you and clapping you in the back.
22:58Then when the real championship thing comes around,
23:01your focus, even though you think your focus is right,
23:04it's not really right.
23:05DJ, a very, very amenable guy, he never knew at the time when to say no.
23:20He would be going to medal presentations a few nights a week
23:24when he should have been or might have been at home,
23:27either having a domestic life or resting.
23:31You can make sure that he wasn't making money out of these medal presentations.
23:38That's the guy DJ was at the time.
23:41He was just a good, amenable, helpful guy.
23:44There was a lot going on in his life in terms of finances.
23:49DJ Carey Enterprises was his main cleaning company,
23:52which he set up the year before he got married in 1994.
23:56Was it the right thing for him to do?
23:59Did he have the business acumen?
24:01He was employing between 15 and 20 people at that stage in the business.
24:06He was a man under pressure.
24:11He never had a very, very good, to my mind, confidant.
24:16Someone just say, look, go to that medal presentation, but that's enough.
24:21You have to say no, you have to draw the line.
24:24And at the time, he never had that, and that was certainly a problem.
24:30Basically, the pressure had got to him.
24:36He retired in 1998.
24:39It was a WTF moment before WTF moments came along.
24:44The news that DJ Carey is to retire is by far the biggest sporting story in years
24:49to hit this proud county.
24:50There was shock in Kilkenny.
24:52The favourite player, the guy that everybody had the jersey with his name on your back,
24:57and all of a sudden, dramatically, DJ Carey announced he was resigning.
25:02How he could give up the game that he loves so much overnight, I don't know.
25:14I've never been one for controversy.
25:17I've got on with the game on the field.
25:19But as far as I'm concerned, my hunger is gone.
25:22And if I haven't got that, well, then if I go out in the field,
25:25I'm letting down both myself and the person beside me,
25:27and the people who are selecting me.
25:30And I felt that by doing that, everyone was being let down.
25:33And I said, now is the time to do it.
25:37Asher, we were disappointed when he announced it then.
25:40And we felt that he had more to offer.
25:42And, you know, look, he had given so much.
25:44He had given so much.
25:45And he had to be jaded.
25:47He had to be tired.
25:48Like, he was playing from a very young 12 years of age.
25:51Not many people's careers go on and grow and grow and grow and continuously grow.
25:56He's at the top of his game.
25:57He's the top sportsman in the country.
25:59And he epitomises all that's good in the GAA in terms of the image he portrays,
26:03particularly to the young people.
26:05So he's a huge asset to the GAA.
26:07And that's why I believe he himself must come back,
26:10because I think he owes it to an awful lot of people to come back.
26:13I think he lapped up the attention.
26:19He loved it.
26:20He had six weeks where the postman's back was broken and gone,
26:23because he was delivering bags of letters to the house.
26:26Schools and classes wrote to him.
26:29And letters came from all over the world saying,
26:32please DJ, will you go back and play for Kilkenny.
26:35I think he was having some kind of a personal crisis.
26:42That he'd hear people saying things about him,
26:46that he wouldn't perform on the big days,
26:49and these kind of whispers got to him.
26:51So there was a huge media narrative about all this,
26:54and a press conference was called.
26:57Now, after careful consideration and support from his family,
27:01other players and thousands of letters, especially from children,
27:05DJ is back.
27:06It was an astonishing change of mind.
27:08But was it a mistake?
27:10In my mind, I made no mistake.
27:12That's the way I felt at the time.
27:14The reason I felt that way, I can't tell you.
27:18Outside of the game, I have nothing.
27:21I don't drink or smoke.
27:23I have my own business.
27:25I have my own house.
27:26I have my own family.
27:27And that's all that matters to me.
27:30Lo and behold, you know, after getting so many headlines
27:33a few weeks earlier for his retirement,
27:35and dominating the airwaves everywhere,
27:38six weeks later, he's back in.
27:44DJ was absolutely aware that he was in an amateur sport,
27:48and I have no doubt that it weighed heavily on his mind.
27:52When you consider everything that he put into it,
27:55and here he was slogging and training three,
27:57four nights a week and playing matches,
28:00and he wasn't getting any cash in the bank for it.
28:05DJ seemed pretty adamant six weeks earlier that he was done.
28:09There was talk, how much did he get?
28:11Who was looking after him?
28:13The dogs on the street were asking questions about Avonmoor,
28:17which was a huge Kilkenny company,
28:20would have been the main sponsor for the GAA locally.
28:24Of course the main sponsor wants the star player,
28:27so you can't blame people for speculating and saying,
28:30well, how much did Avonmoor give him to get him back?
28:33Now, in terms of the press conference,
28:35those questions were asked.
28:38That was knocked on the head.
28:40DJ Kerry's not one of those players looking for money.
28:42In fact, and this is a fact,
28:44he has only claimed his expenses up to July of last year.
28:47He's actually due expenses.
28:49It was absolutely outright denied by the Kilkenny county board.
28:53No inducement of any sort was offered to DJ Kerry
28:56to get him back playing.
29:00I'm going to become very thick-skinned from now on.
29:02The criticism I don't mind,
29:05but the rumours that start out there,
29:07it's not going to be listened to anymore.
29:12There was jubilation when we heard he was out and he was back,
29:16and people flocked again to see him training.
29:21So when he came back at the time,
29:24I think all the stars aligned.
29:26Brian Cody came in as manager,
29:29so a clean slate, a new start.
29:33Top Cat DJ back on Hurling's big stage.
29:36Kerry's comeback, a huge boost to Kilkenny's All-Ireland ambition.
29:39We pride ourselves on trying to win All-Irelands,
29:41and we hadn't been winning one for a few years.
29:44You know, it was just to get that one more.
29:49Bear in mind, DJ had played in the previous two-hour and finals,
29:531998 and 1999,
29:57and lost them both.
30:00Had not played well in either.
30:03Pipped at the post by Offaly a year ago,
30:05and now heartbreak against the young guns of Cork.
30:08For some of the players, the emotion was too much.
30:11I'd certainly be expecting DJ to step up a year.
30:14He didn't score.
30:15This defeat was worse than losing last year's final.
30:18The Kilkenny players, selectors and fans really wanted to bring the Lee McCarthy to the banks of the Knorr.
30:23They didn't go for us.
30:25And, you know, we'll go home disappointed again,
30:27but there has to be a winner.
30:29That's the cruel part about sport.
30:33That question is always there.
30:34Could I have done something different on that occasion?
30:38He was going into an All-Ireland final with more pressure on him than possibly any player in whirling history.
30:50The tension throughout Kilkenny all week was palpable, but so too was the fans' confidence
31:07that this team would not go down in history as having lost three in a row.
31:12And the Cats fans were hoping for an inspired display from who else but DJ.
31:19It's the excitement around DJ. It's the story.
31:22When DJ does his thing so spectacularly, it's the impact on the crowd.
31:27We'd call it the DJ factor.
31:29When the All-Leinster All-Ireland got underway, Kilkenny quickly raced ahead.
31:37DJ Carey producing one of his true classics.
31:40Carey blasted his shot past Stephen Byrne.
31:44There was a huge excitement when he was in form.
31:48He'd be heading for a goal and you knew something special was going to happen.
31:51The Cats couldn't have hoped for a better start with goals aplenty.
31:56And the fans were jubilant.
31:58There was always something special there.
32:00And the excitement that was there.
32:02Not only on the day in the stand watching him, but in the county.
32:07You know the way Maya Angelou says, you don't remember what someone did or what they said.
32:11You remember how they made you feel.
32:13And he just made us feel wonderful every single time.
32:16The young Ireland's club man pounced again for Kilkenny minutes later.
32:21Niall Claffey did enough to keep Henry Sheflin's effort out.
32:24But there was no denying DJ.
32:27To put the icing on the cake.
32:29People sitting up in the stand had picked a team of the millennium.
32:33Which did not include our superstar.
32:37And by half time I think they were gone into hiding.
32:40Because he played a star game that day, you know.
32:42But by half time Kilkenny had clinched goal number three.
32:46Charlie Carter capitalising on who else but DJ's darting run.
32:51Even the most faithful must have felt the title was heading north side.
32:55Kilkenny's seven year wait for the Liam McCarthy Cup was over.
32:59This extra special train arrived in Kilkenny city to a fanfare of noise.
33:18The players were mobbed by family, friends and supporters.
33:22The crowd's joy made up for the disappointment of the past two years.
33:25Any day you win an Ireland is a special day.
33:28And it was always Monday evening at the train station.
33:31The train would be coming in and the bangers would be going off.
33:34And then the parade down John Street.
33:36The open top bus.
33:37Again DJ would be at the centre of that.
33:39Everyone wanted to get a hurl signed by DJ.
33:42Or get their jersey signed.
33:44Or indeed their arm pushed out that they wouldn't wash for a month.
33:48Because they got DJ's signature on it.
33:50He's got a gun!
34:00Like he had the world at his feet really.
34:02You'll hear people saying it all the time.
34:04People called him a god and a giant and a hero and all sorts of things.
34:08But also I can't say that I know anyone who said they were a friend of his.
34:13I think that there were a lot of people who played with him.
34:15There were other lads you know that they weren't big stars like DJ.
34:18But you know they did well out of the hurling in the end.
34:20Like they got jobs on the basis of their reputation.
34:23And people looked out for them.
34:25And they were able to be successful and given opportunities for that.
34:28Ideally those players should be paid and given money.
34:32And rewarded for putting people in the stand.
34:35And you know putting that effort in.
34:37But realistically it's not there.
34:39If you're to try and professionally pay an inter-counted senior hurling team.
34:44You know you have a real problem.
34:46Because you know you have 35 or 40 people that you're going to have to pay.
34:49And pay very well over a 10 year career.
34:53They do make incredible compromises.
34:55But it's part of what they are.
34:57Hurlers up and down the country give their time.
35:01Massive amounts of their time.
35:03To their parish and community to play hurling.
35:05But I sometimes think it must be a little bit galling.
35:09To be at the top of your game.
35:11Giving of their all for maybe 10 months of the year.
35:15And amateur or professional.
35:17They are professionals in everything.
35:19But picking up a paycheck.
35:21It's very hard for say Americans even to grasp this.
35:26DJ Carey is a guy who sat down and had lunch with Tiger Woods.
35:30Trying to explain the GA in terms of no actually we don't make any money from this.
35:35We get the profile.
35:37We have to hold down a full time job.
35:39And this is where the dynamic changed maybe a little bit.
35:44Because money is talked about a lot by DJ Carey in his interviews.
35:48No one can stay going for 6, 7, 8, 9 months.
35:53You know and come off a building site.
35:55Or come off a tractor on a farm.
35:57Or wherever they are.
35:58And you know they are losing out on money maybe.
36:02And they shouldn't be.
36:03Things have to change.
36:05Players from around the country gathered at City West this evening.
36:08The issue of endorsements and player imaging rights will be discussed for the GPA's AGM.
36:13Around the time of the inception of the Gaelic Players Association.
36:17Where players had come together including DJ Carey to negotiate a deal.
36:22So that they'd get some money off the field for appearances.
36:26In the mid 90s, hurling became cool.
36:33You had the Guinness sponsorship.
36:35It brought it to the ads.
36:38It brought hurling to the billboards.
36:40It brought hurling I think into the sitting rooms of the nation in a way it hadn't been before.
36:48They were kind of pushing the door.
36:52They were trying to open the door.
36:55Six of the country's leading GAA players were today unveiled by sportswear company Puma.
37:00Who have contracted each player individually to wear their boots and carry out promotional work.
37:05This was 20 years ago.
37:07There was a lot of resistance.
37:08They had to do a lot of things or fight for things that we now take for granted.
37:15DJ was obviously one of the figureheads.
37:18I would be hoping that eventually all players in all counties will have some sort of endorsement deal.
37:25And you know there'll be no one become millionaires out of it.
37:28This is what we're looking for.
37:30We're not looking to get paid to play.
37:35There is no doubt that there are ways that players can be looked after.
37:40You can wrap your arms around them.
37:42You can make sure that maybe they have good clients for their business.
37:45That there's other ways that people can take care of people who they know and they like in Ireland.
37:51From an early age, even young DJ Kerry, I mean you can sometimes see evidence or you can see patterns emerge.
38:02You start examining things.
38:05There were times when he didn't have to go to school.
38:10He got away with murder.
38:12He got looked after.
38:13He got the best of everything in terms of his education.
38:16But there were times when he did things that if you weren't DJ Kerry, certainly you wouldn't get away with them.
38:26Doors would open because of who he was.
38:29And then as he got older then, that continued.
38:33One of the little perks that the Kilkenny hurlers got after winning in All-Ireland is that they'd get to go on a holiday abroad.
38:41I'm not sure why DJ was so involved.
38:46I think DJ was interested in golf as well at this stage.
38:49Everybody in Kilkenny wanted to go on this famous hurlers trip.
38:53So this would have been, they were planning for January 2001 after winning that 2000 All-Ireland Final to head to Asia.
39:02How exotic.
39:04They were off to Bangkok.
39:05Then they were going to go to the little seaside resort of Pattaya in Thailand.
39:11The wives were coming, the girlfriends were coming, the big entourage of supporters.
39:16But they clearly remember DJ Kerry organising the golf and the rounds of golf.
39:21And one fella said to me, and excuse my language, but he said he was a bossy fucker.
39:28My closest contact with DJ would have been in the golfing group in Thailand.
39:32He was kind of coordinating the hurler golfers.
39:35He was certainly the leader on the golf course of the Kilkenny lads.
39:40But I don't think he had much say after seven o'clock at night.
39:45The rest of them went the wrong way.
39:47And he wouldn't have been in the bars or anything like that.
39:51I was heading off for golf at half six in the morning.
39:54And I would have met lads coming in the opposite direction through the door.
39:59But certainly not Kerry.
40:02I know people as well that were sitting at the breakfast one morning and lo and behold,
40:09a young Thai woman walked in and took her seat at the breakfast table with DJ.
40:15Christine, DJ's wife, was there as well.
40:17And that this young woman had been recruited as an au pair.
40:21And then when we got back to Kilkenny and to Ireland, she was spotted at the side of the football field.
40:29She was certainly seen out and about in the community.
40:34And she was introduced to people as DJ and Christine's au pair.
40:38A busy time for Tip's defence, DJ clearly on song.
40:42He and Kilkenny's scoring tally on the increase.
40:46DJ Kerry.
40:48So in the early noughties, in terms of Kilkenny winning that 2000 All-Ireland Final,
40:53things going really well on the field for DJ Kerry.
40:56That is the 250th point in DJ Kerry's inter-county career.
41:02It was Kerry who brought the curtain down on a classic.
41:05Brian Cody's side moving ever closer to an All-Ireland Final appearance.
41:09Things started to get really exciting for DJ.
41:12I was looking on thinking, this is incredible.
41:15And for me, the 2002 All-Ireland Final. Boom.
41:19We were saying it during the semi-final, but he's the man who had the courage
41:22to come back into the Kilkenny colours.
41:25Nicely down here towards Henry Sheffield.
41:28What a battle he's going to have with Sean McMahon and starting already.
41:32Thundering forward, looking for the opening score. It's a goal!
41:36What a start that is. DJ Kerry with yet another championship goal and only three...
41:44Early on in that, DJ comes on, but within a few minutes,
41:48he scores a goal into the back of the net in Croke Park.
41:51And after that, DJ Kerry is getting towards the absolute pinnacle of his fame.
41:57DJ Kerry!
42:05There's massive pressure on Kilkenny hurlers because the expectations are so high of the fans.
42:12To bring back the Liam McCarthy to Kilkenny, it's hard to explain that sense of pride that he must have had.
42:19So, on the one hand, things look amazing. Things have never been better for him.
42:25But yet, still, we have these issues in terms of, in his personal life, we have turmoil.
42:31It was about what was going on in his marriage.
42:34The difficulties in the marriage aren't written about in the newspapers until 2003.
42:40But it's clear in 2001 that something happened.
42:44We know the au pair arrived.
42:47There are people close to Christine that say she wasn't happy about the arrangement.
42:53DJ said he was trying to ease the pressure on Christine
42:57because he was here, there and everywhere all over the country giving out the medals.
43:01So, maybe this woman would be able to help with the two young boys.
43:05Whatever happened, a source told me she changed the locks,
43:09the clothes were thrown out the window, the au pair went back to Thailand
43:13and that the marriage was in deep bother.
43:16Christine was really important in terms of running his day-to-day business, DJ Carey Enterprises.
43:26But once the marriage is in jeopardy, it's then that really Christine starts to step away from the company
43:32and enter his younger sister, Katrina Carey.
43:40Katrina had a profile herself, actually. She played hockey. She didn't just play.
43:46She had an international career for Ireland as a hockey player.
43:49But she got really involved in the running of the company once the marriage started to break down.
43:56Talking the talk ten days before the hurling season's showpiece.
44:02Kilkenny captain DJ Carey and Alan Brown of Cork meeting the media.
44:06The pair will be very much sought after in the coming days.
44:09The countdown to the All-Ireland Hurling final producing very different demands.
44:13There's a lot to be said for focus and everything else, but sometimes it's good to get your mind off it as well
44:19because if you're thinking holy and solely about it, you wouldn't sleep, you wouldn't do anything.
44:23He may not be the God, but in hurling, he is God.
44:27Dennis Joseph Carey. DJ, come on.
44:31He refers himself to pressures, but again, there's contradictions with everything about him.
44:39DJ is somebody that often complains about the intrusion into his private life.
44:43Must be very hard to live up to testimonials like that.
44:47The media have to have something to go on.
44:49You have to be out and about for there to be that level of interest in you.
44:53In the days before the All-Ireland final in 2003, there was all sorts of stories flying around.
45:02There were journalists all over Kilkenny.
45:04They were asking questions about DJ's private life.
45:07There was kind of a suggestion or some talk that a story was about to break.
45:17The papers had decided they were ready to go with this story.
45:21They published the front page with the photograph of the boys and DJ's wife
45:26and an inset picture of DJ.
45:28And this was on the day of the All-Ireland final.
45:34Yes, the team's just being introduced to the crowd here at Croke Park at the moment.
45:39And significantly, Michael Dyken, the biggest cheer of the two teams, went for DJ Carey.
45:44It's been a rough week for DJ Carey.
45:46Will this impact today, do you think, on him?
45:48Obviously, it's been going on maybe for a while now.
45:51Maybe a little bit off-colour the last few matches.
45:53But knowing DJ, he's mentally very strong.
45:55He'll put that to the back of his mind during the match.
45:57And I don't think the papers or anyone should have commented this week.
46:00You know, it's a big week for him.
46:01And it's his own personal life.
46:02And it's no one's business.
46:04And I don't really know why the papers had to bring it up this week.
46:07This was absolutely scandalous.
46:15The public had a real interest in the story.
46:18But they were annoyed maybe on DJ's behalf.
46:24Was it fair, all these pressures?
46:26A sports star, it's an amateur sport.
46:28So why is everyone talking about his private life?
46:34Kilkenny County Board were furious.
46:36An unnamed official went as far as to say it was blatant sabotage.
46:42So no doubt they were relieved when Kilkenny won that All-Ireland Final.
46:47And Kilkenny with the title.
46:49The champions have retained the McCarthy Cup.
46:53They had a battle on their hands in the second half.
46:57But they met the challenge head on.
46:59Kilkenny the champions for the 28th time.
47:07It's a great pleasure and honour for me
47:09to accept the lead McCarthy Cup
47:11on behalf of this great Kilkenny team
47:13for the second year in a row.
47:15What's really interesting now
47:29that mightn't have been so significant at the time,
47:32this rumour that had been sweeping the southern half of the country,
47:36the level of stuff that DJ was putting up with,
47:40the poor DJ, and that is, to be fair,
47:43that is the narrative that we all believed in,
47:45that he was up against it,
47:46that there were all these rumours,
47:48there were all these people saying these things
47:50about the great DJ Kerry.
47:51Why would they say them?
47:53But the line was that one of the vicious rumours
47:56related to him having cancer.
47:58And that is in the article in 2003.
48:01And it is mentioned as a rumour about DJ Kerry.
48:04Where does this rumour come from?
48:06Where did it start?
48:14Just very few hurlers have got into the game to be famous.
48:18And I can tell you, I am certainly not one of those.
48:21Without any shadow of doubt, there is a certain amount of pressure.
48:25You just try and block out whatever else is surrounding you.
48:30And I deal with life as much as I can in the same way.
48:34I like to think of myself as a sportsman on and off the field.
48:39I think the mind will always be sharp.
48:43The mind will always keep you thinking.
48:45The mind will always keep you questioning.
48:48And when, you know, you are in a spot,
48:51can there be a right decision made?
48:53We have a great county board.
48:54I would hate to think that I went through a career
48:57that I pulled a dirty stroke on anyone.
48:59I miss this história.
49:01I'll see you there so quickly!
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