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Geena David and Lois Smith Discuss Their New Movie 'Marjorie Prime' | In Studio
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The stars of 'Marjorie Prime' stopped by THR offices for a candid conversation about the sci-fi movie.
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Hi, this is Mariah Gullow from The Hollywood Reporter and I'm in studio with Gina Davis
00:04
and Lois Smith.
00:05
Thank you so much for being here.
00:08
A pleasure.
00:09
Let's talk about your new movie, Marjorie Prime.
00:11
So Lois, you've spent some time with this film as well as the play before.
00:17
I did the play, some time went by, I did the film, and then the next morning I went into
00:23
rehearsal for the play again.
00:24
Amazing.
00:25
Yes.
00:26
Literally.
00:27
Yeah.
00:28
So can you tell us a little bit about this movie and your experience with it?
00:35
Maybe a little bit about your character, Marjorie?
00:39
Marjorie has some problems remembering and isn't terribly well, has a long in years.
00:51
She has a companion who is an AI, basically a hologram.
00:59
It takes a little bit, places a little bit in the future, not so far in the future.
01:04
And that's how, that's how the story begins.
01:11
It's a, a, the piece is deeply about memory.
01:15
And while there is a sci-fi element because these, these AI companions are not yet on the market
01:24
or in existence.
01:26
They are not so far away as what we hear.
01:29
But it's, it's the human beings who are the center of the piece and what, as human beings, who we are,
01:37
what we want to be, what we remember and don't, and what we say to each other and don't.
01:43
And that's, the prime listens very well, is programmed to be sympathetic and empathic.
01:56
And it's also, since it knows only what it's been told, it learns as it learns more because people tell it things.
02:06
So, and your, the prime who is your husband, who has passed away.
02:13
Yes, my deceased husband, who is at, at, in his forties, instead of, he was much older when he passed away.
02:21
Right.
02:22
But that's the, that's the prime I choose.
02:24
And it's played by John Hamm.
02:26
By John Hamm.
02:27
Oh.
02:28
Good reason for choosing such a.
02:29
Yes.
02:30
Very good reason.
02:31
Yes.
02:32
Yes.
02:33
Yes, John is known as just a, a beloved actor in the entertainment world.
02:38
Indeed, yes.
02:39
For good reason.
02:40
Yeah.
02:41
Yes.
02:42
What was it like working, working with him?
02:43
Well, hence, also, I get to have John Hamm as my dad.
02:48
Yeah.
02:49
Yes.
02:50
Very.
02:51
John Hamm and I are Gina's parents.
02:53
Yes.
02:54
That's right.
02:56
But it all makes sense in the movie.
02:58
Yeah.
02:59
And this movie at its core is about generations of women in the same family.
03:04
What was it like having that mother-daughter relationship?
03:07
It's quite an interesting mother-daughter relationship.
03:10
Not peaceful.
03:11
No.
03:12
Not, not resolved.
03:15
Not resolved.
03:16
Not resolved.
03:17
And, you know, to, to be 60 and still have passionate interest in, in having a connection,
03:26
you know, finding a connection you feel like you lost or were robbed of with your mother
03:33
is, you know, it's very, it's very interesting and very fraught relationship.
03:38
One of the scenes I really like, Gina, is when you are with your husband, Tim Robbins, and
03:45
you're talking about memory, how memories fade away in your life.
03:52
Right.
03:53
What would, what was that scene like for you to film?
03:55
Well, that one, Lois knows, that one has really stuck with me because my character talks
04:04
about this, this theory that memory is, uh, uh, like that, that each time you remember
04:13
something you're remembering the last time you remembered it rather than the actual event
04:17
so that it fades like a Xerox of a Xerox.
04:20
And, uh, uh, I'd never heard that before and I don't like that idea.
04:25
I don't know.
04:26
Is that a real, is this a real scientific theory or was it?
04:28
Oh no.
04:29
Yeah.
04:30
It is a real, I'm not, I don't know, you know, I haven't really researched it.
04:33
That's the only one, but I choose to think that there's a different theory.
04:37
I just, it really stuck with me now.
04:40
Yeah.
04:41
Um.
04:42
The things they make an actor say.
04:43
I know.
04:45
If only I hadn't had to think about that, it would have been better.
04:49
Yeah.
04:50
Yeah.
04:51
But it, it, it's an interesting idea.
04:52
Yeah.
04:53
Yeah.
04:54
Um, what was it like filming in the location?
04:56
Cause it's kind of, I mean, the, the location is so kind of beautifully bleak and isolated.
05:02
And timeless.
05:03
Um, and the ocean has a lot to do with it.
05:08
Um, the, the Buddhist belief that the mind is an ocean and the thoughts are like waves.
05:13
Um, so what was it, what was that like kind of filming in that environment?
05:18
Yeah.
05:19
This is the view of, I think, Michael Almereta who adapted and directed this film.
05:25
Uh, the water is important to him.
05:27
The choice of the ocean as, as the, uh, he wouldn't speak of it in symbols, but, but as,
05:34
as what?
05:35
Givens as, as, uh, yeah.
05:37
Yeah.
05:38
Yeah.
05:39
Right.
05:40
Yeah.
05:41
That was his, he chose to set it by the ocean.
05:43
It wasn't necessarily intended that way in the play, but, uh, uh, and I think, I think
05:50
it is meant to give a feeling of timelessness and, and there's a lot of weather in the movie
05:56
as well, there's lots of wind and waves and, uh, rain and then ultimately snow and, uh,
06:04
and I think that's meant to give a sort of timeless feel as well.
06:09
The passage of time.
06:10
Yes.
06:11
Yeah.
06:12
Yeah.
06:13
When you had to, uh, dig into your characters, um, and I was talking to you about this earlier,
06:19
Lois, do you find it helpful to have like a very involved backstory or are you finding
06:25
yourself kind of playing in the moment off the, the other person?
06:29
Um, does it feel right to kind of dig into the memories of this other, this character or
06:36
does it feel more right to like really be present with your, with your scene partner?
06:40
It's not one or the other.
06:42
No.
06:43
Is it?
06:44
It can't be.
06:45
First of all, as I think I said to you, the writing in this, in this piece is strong
06:49
and is giving you, me, the, us and the audience a lot of, of, um, emotional location.
06:58
Uh-huh.
06:59
So, um, we already know a lot about what we know and don't know.
07:08
Uh-huh.
07:09
Um, and it's, it is an interesting question because what, what's left out of the story?
07:17
Each character knows and believes or passes on or it is the substance of it.
07:24
It's, that's a lot of what the piece is about.
07:27
Uh-huh.
07:28
Really.
07:29
Yeah.
07:30
Um, this movie plays around with the idea of memory suppression.
07:35
That, you know, if you were speaking to, uh, a hologram, uh, a prime and you're downloading,
07:43
you're downloading your information to them, maybe you might leave off some things.
07:48
Some memories that you would rather.
07:49
Or polish it things up or something.
07:51
Yeah.
07:52
Yeah.
07:53
Right.
07:54
Change movie every once in a while.
07:55
Um, is there anything, not to dig too personally into your own lives, but is there anything that
08:00
you would leave out of your life if you were talking to a prime?
08:04
Hmm.
08:05
Ooh.
08:06
Something you'd like to just.
08:08
Never thought about that.
08:09
I know.
08:10
I don't mean to be too heavy with it.
08:13
That's a really personal question.
08:16
I know.
08:17
I'm sorry.
08:18
It's a really personal question.
08:19
Uh, how about a memory you'd like to, you would like to experience?
08:23
Something that you would like, uh, you know, perhaps you wake up in the morning and
08:27
Jon Hamm is sitting there on your couch and, and he's.
08:30
On the couch.
08:31
I find you have a great memory of your life.
08:33
Like, what would you choose?
08:34
Oh, that is so interesting.
08:38
Yeah.
08:39
Because part of what happens in this, in this early scene is very much that.
08:46
There are, uh, he is prompting Marjorie about memories that she doesn't have.
08:53
Mm-hmm.
08:54
And yet, she likes to play with the, uh, the facts and the memories.
09:01
Right, right.
09:02
Yeah.
09:03
So.
09:04
And then, you know, you're, you're kind of happy to have things massaged around a little
09:09
bit.
09:10
Yeah.
09:11
And make it a better story.
09:12
I probably want him to talk about my pets.
09:14
Oh.
09:15
Just have somebody to say, you know, wasn't Puffy great?
09:19
You remember Puffy was so wonderful?
09:21
And, you know.
09:22
Actually, we do that in this, in this piece.
09:24
Yes.
09:25
Yeah.
09:26
We do.
09:27
We do.
09:28
Um, for this, uh, this is such a character driven piece, um, do you ever, uh, kind of
09:34
pull from inspiration from other actors of the past?
09:37
How do you mean?
09:39
That, uh.
09:40
Like, do any actors from the past kind of inspire you to craft the character, the specific characters
09:46
in Marjorie Prime?
09:48
No.
09:49
No.
09:50
No.
09:51
No.
09:52
I don't think so.
09:53
Maybe there are goodness influences that are just there.
09:57
I mean, certainly admire.
09:59
Right.
10:00
Right.
10:01
Exactly.
10:02
No, but I can't, you can't say, oh, she'd have done it this way.
10:05
No.
10:06
Right.
10:07
Yeah.
10:08
Um, well, I have a line of questions called first, best, last, worst that I would like to
10:13
have you answer.
10:14
And.
10:15
Okay.
10:16
Yeah, they're, they're pretty simple.
10:17
You'll see.
10:18
Um, the first job that made you think I've made it.
10:22
Even if you hadn't at the time.
10:24
Uh, uh, well, uh, when I was 60, it wasn't my, it wasn't my first job.
10:30
Uh, but, uh, when I was 16, I got hired in a department store to be in the credit department.
10:36
Uh, deciding whether people could buy a refrigerator on credit, you know, or whatever, because I was very
10:43
good at math.
10:44
And I thought, well, I am really, I am a grown up now.
10:48
Very, very responsible person.
10:49
So, that's probably mine.
10:50
That's great.
10:51
Oh, love it.
10:52
It's my turn.
10:53
Yeah.
10:54
I can go on.
10:55
Go ahead, go on.
10:56
Um.
10:57
I didn't choose something from this business.
10:59
No.
11:00
Oh, I like it though.
11:01
No, I like that you, uh, you found something that just, you know, you, you knew you had become
11:09
an adult when you were able to approve lines of credit.
11:13
Right.
11:14
That's really great.
11:15
Yeah.
11:16
Lois, do you have a job from the past that, uh.
11:20
My first job was a play on Broadway, which, um, ran all season.
11:27
And Melvin Douglas was my father.
11:29
I was a teenage.
11:30
Your first job was a play on Broadway?
11:31
Yep.
11:32
And it was three teenage girls and Mel, Melvin Douglas was our father.
11:36
Wow.
11:37
Um, that was pretty terrific.
11:39
But, this is what I wanted to tell you.
11:41
The very last performance, my character is dressed up to go and do the school play,
11:49
playing Queen Victoria.
11:50
And in the third act, her last entrance, her last exit, she's telling her parents who
11:55
are going to come to this high school to watch the play.
11:58
And, you know, she's giving them instructions and she, and then I make an exit.
12:03
And the last night of the performance in Broadway, after I exited, Melvin Douglas said,
12:10
she's going to be a great actress, that kid.
12:14
That was his ad lib.
12:16
No!
12:17
Oh, wow!
12:18
Isn't that a lovely story?
12:20
Yeah.
12:21
And did you just go, oh!
12:22
You know, I've been going, the rest of my life, I don't know what I did at the moment.
12:26
I had just walked off stage, you know.
12:28
Right, right, right.
12:29
That's fabulous.
12:30
Yeah, that was pretty great.
12:31
Wow.
12:32
Very good.
12:33
The best story from the set of Marjorie Prime or on stage?
12:38
Any good stories from one of the nights performing?
12:41
Ah.
12:42
Ah.
12:43
Oh.
12:44
Oh.
12:45
Um.
12:46
Oh, my God.
12:48
I just thought of one.
12:50
What?
12:51
What?
12:52
One night at the Taper, when it was the first place we performed it, um, it was the first
13:00
scene of the play between Marjorie and Walter Prime.
13:04
And, um, I think I know, I think I figured out what had happened.
13:11
Uh, he says something, and I hesitated in my answer, and he went on.
13:17
That is, he missed, I think, maybe thought I didn't know it, and maybe I didn't for a
13:22
moment.
13:23
Oh.
13:24
But, he came back with a line.
13:29
Happens that line was a great deal farther on in the scene.
13:32
Oh, no.
13:33
Oh, yeah.
13:34
And I picked it up, and we continued to play the scene, and all the time it was going on,
13:39
the wheels, I was continuing to say the lines that were next.
13:43
Yeah.
13:44
But the wheels were going around, because a lot of what was left out was essential.
13:49
The end of the play would not have made any sense.
13:51
No.
13:52
And I finally realized what to do, and I leaped to back, something that took us back.
13:59
Yes.
14:00
And we played the part that had been left out, and then we ended the scene.
14:03
And when we got off stage, I mean, it was, it was, it was amazing, but it was, it was,
14:09
it's also sort of, it might, maybe it's like, right, I'm not adventurous about things like
14:13
riding a motorcycle or do, I think it was kind of like that.
14:17
Boy, you were really.
14:18
And our fellows, Tess and John, who were standing off stage, were paralyzed with fear about what was happening.
14:29
Yes.
14:30
Oh, I can imagine.
14:31
It was extremely exciting and very scary.
14:34
Wow.
14:35
And that happened once.
14:36
And you pulled it off.
14:38
We did, we pulled it off.
14:39
Oh, boy.
14:40
To go back and then skip the part you'd already done.
14:42
Oh, God.
14:43
And put all the information in.
14:44
We did it.
14:45
We did it.
14:46
And would he, when you took it back, could you read on his face?
14:50
Oh, yes.
14:51
He had the same look on his face I did.
14:53
Oh, he probably went, oh, no.
14:55
And when I did this, I think he knew, okay.
14:58
Okay.
14:59
Yeah.
15:00
It was like butter.
15:01
But it was sour.
15:02
Yeah.
15:03
That's a great sour.
15:04
I have no comfortable story.
15:07
So let's go on to the next one.
15:09
Let's move on.
15:10
Last time a fan interaction made you laugh.
15:19
Have you been getting any good feedback from the public about?
15:25
We have been getting a lot of feedback, but it hasn't been too risable.
15:32
Well, there was one period where I had people saying, it was when Julia Roberts was very
15:45
in the public eye and I had people say, oh, you're Julia Roberts.
15:49
I think we both had big smiles or something.
15:52
And I happened to be at an airport magazine shop and she was on the cover of like Vogue
15:59
or something.
16:00
And the clerk said, oh, you're Julia Roberts.
16:03
And I picked it up and held it up and said, yeah.
16:08
That's nice.
16:09
Yeah.
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I'm Julia Roberts.
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Like to prove, of course, I'm not.
16:13
And then she said, oh, Julia Roberts, will you sign it for me?
16:17
Oh.
16:18
Okay.
16:19
That would put a smile on my face.
16:28
Okay.
16:29
Here's the last one.
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Worst audition story.
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I got cast in everything I auditioned for.
16:35
I'm kidding.
16:36
You don't have any.
16:37
I'm kidding.
16:38
I'm kidding.
16:39
I'm kidding.
16:40
Worst audition story.
16:42
I'm sure there's been great ones.
16:43
I just can't remember them.
16:44
Yeah.
16:45
Worst audition story.
16:46
I mean, your audition for Tootsie must have been a triumph.
16:50
Oh.
16:51
I guess.
16:52
Well, there was.
16:53
Well, all right.
16:54
I'll bide some time for you by telling a modeling audition story.
17:11
Because I was trying to be a model early on.
17:14
And I went to this go see where they said, you know, I always went full makeup, full everything.
17:23
And they said, this is going to be for a commercial where they're going to splash you with water.
17:29
Oh, no.
17:30
And because you're having so much fun, it's all great.
17:33
So they had a bucket of water.
17:35
And they said, as part of the audition, we're going to splash you with this water.
17:42
And you're going to smile so happy.
17:45
Yay.
17:46
The fun waves.
17:47
And we'll take a photo.
17:48
So I'm standing there on the spot ready.
17:51
And they throw this cold, dense bucket of water on my head.
17:56
And I went.
17:58
And they took the picture and they just said, you weren't smiling.
18:03
Oh, wow.
18:05
Next.
18:06
Out of the sidewalk again.
18:08
Like, what am I supposed to do?
18:11
There was a lot of stuff like that.
18:14
Yeah.
18:15
Lewis.
18:16
No, I haven't.
18:17
No.
18:18
I was listening.
18:19
I was listening.
18:20
How could I think of that?
18:21
How could you?
18:22
Well, ladies, thank you so much for being here.
18:25
The movie's Marjorie Prime.
18:26
It's out on limited release and we'll get a wider release later.
18:29
But go see it.
18:30
Yes, it's been extended in New York, in Los Angeles.
18:33
Yes.
18:34
It's playing at the big screen.
18:35
It's the hot ticket.
18:36
See it on the big screen.
18:37
See it on the big screen.
18:38
Yes.
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