90 Day Fiancé Happily Ever After 2025 Season 9 Episode 20

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00:00:00One of 90-day fiancé happily ever after, tell all, no limits.

00:00:04Javi's in the pool throwing balls like a dog.

00:00:07He's probably drunk already.

00:00:09What's going on with Lauren and Elizabeth?

00:00:12I'm good with Lauren, but with Elizabeth and Andrew, no, because they blame us for everything.

00:00:17What Gino still doesn't get is that I am not the same person.

00:00:22I'm not the broken Jasmine who couldn't regulate her emotions.

00:00:27My man's...

00:00:30What an asshole!

00:00:31You a fraud!

00:00:32You know what's there?

00:00:34Oh my God, who has a tanx?

00:00:35Dear God.

00:00:39Look at my boobs.

00:00:41People are saying I do plastic surgery, but I am a pregnant.

00:00:46I'm a six-month right now.

00:00:48In the house, nobody knows me.

00:00:50I'm afraid to say.

00:00:52How are you doing?

00:00:54Stop.

00:00:55You touch my arm like that.

00:00:56Why not?

00:00:57We are not fighting enough.

00:00:59For the relationship.

00:01:01You speak for yourself.

00:01:04Let's talk about the text messages.

00:01:06Andre, what exactly did you find out from reading these logs?

00:01:10Plenty of material, Sean.

00:01:12She says, Alex compares me to other women.

00:01:15He goes around the bar.

00:01:16He doesn't want to come home.

00:01:17What the f*** is wrong with you?

00:01:19Why you diss everybody around you?

00:01:20You're putting your panties in a bunch of shoving up your ass.

00:01:23Hey, let's go outside.

00:01:25Let's f*** fight.

00:01:25I don't give a f***.

00:01:26What?

00:01:27Andre!

00:01:28Let's go.

00:01:30Come on.

00:01:41Let's fight.

00:01:41I don't give a f***.

00:01:43Andre, come down.

00:01:44Why are you running your mouth?

00:01:47You crazy?

00:01:49Yara, do you want to f*** weigh in on this?

00:01:53Everything is like a f*** big mess.

00:01:55You don't f*** react.

00:01:57What can we tell about that?

00:01:58How can we just get a word in between them?

00:01:59Well, you f*** sit there and stir the pot, and then you sit back quiet.

00:02:01Why didn't we stir the pot?

00:02:02Like, f***, say something about it.

00:02:04You were there.

00:02:05So, Yara and Jovi, who do you think takes the blame for the conflict between these two?

00:02:15So, listen, I think it's a lot of wrong on everyone's part, right?

00:02:19I mean, y'all went behind her back and exposed information.

00:02:22Yeah.

00:02:23Y'all.

00:02:23Which is a little unfair.

00:02:24Y'all?

00:02:25No, y'all.

00:02:25You sure about the y'all part?

00:02:27Andre, let's say that.

00:02:29Andrew, that was no right what you did to her.

00:02:31What'd you tell about Alex, about body shame, when you did him dirty?

00:02:35That was not right.

00:02:38Elizabeth, why do you think that Yara and Jovi are stirring the pot in this situation?

00:02:46When I saw them at Lake Placid, how they're, like, playing a double game here,

00:02:49then I'm like, hold on a minute.

00:02:51What's going on here?

00:02:51Which double game?

00:02:52Ari, you put me in the middle when you say that I say that.

00:02:55She said he was a horrible person.

00:02:57I never said that.

00:02:58You lie about that.

00:03:00I never said that.

00:03:00Why did I lie about that?

00:03:02Maybe it was Jovi that said it.

00:03:03That was said.

00:03:04Do you think I made that out of this?

00:03:07Who called me a horrible person?

00:03:08I don't know if that was said or when it was said.

00:03:10I never said that.

00:03:11Nobody.

00:03:12Nobody.

00:03:13But why did you apologize to it?

00:03:14That's what I don't understand.

00:03:15Exactly.

00:03:15I apologize.

00:03:16I'm a victim.

00:03:16I apologize.

00:03:17You can't recall if you called your best friend a horrible man.

00:03:20All I'm doing is apologizing, apologizing, apologizing.

00:03:24I'm sorry I called you a dick.

00:03:25I'm sorry your butt hurt over it.

00:03:26Okay, your butt hurt, like, you apologize to a lot of places.

00:03:29That's not a real one more time.

00:03:30I kept apologizing for 20 times.

00:03:34Like, how many more times can I apologize?

00:03:38Oh, my gosh.

00:03:40God.

00:03:40This comes down.

00:03:41Benzona.

00:03:43Wow.

00:03:43You and I are connected on, like, oh, we're not fake.

00:03:48We don't like plastic surgery.

00:03:49We don't like Botox.

00:03:50We don't like fillers.

00:03:52We don't agree with that stuff, right?

00:03:54We're like, most Florida women like that stuff.

00:03:56We're not like those girls.

00:03:57Yes.

00:03:58Right?

00:03:58It's true.

00:03:59But I...

00:03:59And then you're like, I'm getting a tummy tuck.

00:04:01Yeah.

00:04:01And I'm going to get this liposuction, this, that, that.

00:04:03I was confused.

00:04:05I've never wanted that stuff.

00:04:06Oh, my God.

00:04:07But after I had my three kids, I did need the tummy tuck because I had the abdominal diastasis,

00:04:12which I openly shared with the world.

00:04:15My stomach was not reattaching.

00:04:17So you connected on the wrong thing, right?

00:04:19No, we connected on the fact that we bitched about our husbands to each other.

00:04:23Fact.

00:04:24We bitched about getting hate on social media to each other.

00:04:27Fact.

00:04:28Also, that our husbands can be similar with their Eastern European descent and just...

00:04:34No, me neither.

00:04:35I think just the alpha male.

00:04:36We would send each other, for instance, funny pictures of being...

00:04:40What are you doing today?

00:04:41Nothing.

00:04:42They think a housewife is sitting around doing nothing.

00:04:44So we would always laugh and be like, oh, we're doing nothing.

00:04:46What are you doing?

00:04:47Nothing.

00:04:47On my way to get the kids.

00:04:49On my way to do the laundry.

00:04:51I think that that is so therapeutic to have a friend to bitch about your husband.

00:04:54It is therapeutic.

00:04:55It's so therapeutic.

00:04:56I do it with Julia all the time.

00:04:59And you better never log in into our text, Brandon.

00:05:04You don't want to see it.

00:05:06What about squashing it out?

00:05:09What?

00:05:10Like when we went into Lake Placid, suppose you were sorry for your behavior of your...

00:05:15Like how it went down.

00:05:16What happened to this...

00:05:17Like sorry.

00:05:18Like what happened to it?

00:05:19You just like said sorry.

00:05:20Just throw it around.

00:05:22We made amends.

00:05:23We talked it out.

00:05:24Whatever.

00:05:24And then Jovi comes up to me at the very end of the night because apparently you, before

00:05:29we went out, told them that I was making fun of Yara and talking about her clothes and this

00:05:35and that.

00:05:35So I literally just found out right then and there, which is why I stormed off because

00:05:39I was so done.

00:05:40Elizabeth, you told Yara that Lauren made fun of her clothes.

00:05:49Is that right?

00:05:50Made fun of her clothes?

00:05:51Yes.

00:05:51No, I don't think I used those words.

00:05:52You never said that.

00:05:54No.

00:05:55I said that she discusses her clothes.

00:05:57I never said she made fun of her.

00:05:59There was that before we went to the bar.

00:06:01I said just beware.

00:06:02You're getting close to her.

00:06:04We actually have that clip.

00:06:07Let's watch.

00:06:09Yeah.

00:06:10I don't know.

00:06:11Like, I wasn't going to say anything, but she was just saying you're just, Miami got

00:06:17to your head and just nasty comments about you and, like, things that you wear.

00:06:21Oh, nice.

00:06:22Oh, that's lovely.

00:06:23Just head lightly.

00:06:24Be cautious.

00:06:25That's all I'm saying.

00:06:26I just don't want you to get hurt in the long run.

00:06:28How she did?

00:06:32Straightforward.

00:06:32Bitches are fake.

00:06:39So, Elizabeth, do you stand by those comments?

00:06:41Absolutely.

00:06:42Okay.

00:06:43Because she did say those things.

00:06:45Though, again, sharing personal conversations, but you don't talk about me.

00:06:49Is that not girl code?

00:06:51Should I not warn another girl that another girl's talking about her?

00:06:54Should I not warn her about that?

00:06:56I forget about this.

00:06:57As a new person in Miami, looking to make genuine friends.

00:07:01Two snakes.

00:07:01Well, you don't live in Miami, thank God, so.

00:07:07Lauren, I think this is the wrong way, but you tell this to many people, that Miami is

00:07:11get to my head.

00:07:13You tell this to many people.

00:07:13I don't think I say it like that, but I think you fit very well in Miami.

00:07:18Like, I cannot see you in Louisiana.

00:07:21I have said this before to her.

00:07:23She probably, she said whatever she said, and it is what it is.

00:07:31Elizabeth, you stand by telling Yara to watch out for Lauren.

00:07:37Of course.

00:07:40Especially now, how she treated this whole situation.

00:07:43I don't trust you.

00:07:44What did I do?

00:07:45She couldn't explain.

00:07:47I told her I had nothing to do with it.

00:07:48Time and time again, she says it's not true, but still mad at me, still doesn't trust me.

00:07:52So what did I do here?

00:07:53I don't understand.

00:07:54So that is a person that you cannot trust.

00:07:56And so I removed myself.

00:07:58But you think that Yara should not trust Lauren?

00:08:01Of course not.

00:08:01I didn't say trust.

00:08:02I didn't use that word.

00:08:03You just said it.

00:08:04You just said it.

00:08:07Makes sense.

00:08:08You are so twisted on all your lies and all your conspiracies and thoughts.

00:08:12You hurt us.

00:08:14We came here as your friend.

00:08:16We were fine.

00:08:17And we had conversations thinking we had an understanding of what was going on.

00:08:21So there's no feelings hurt.

00:08:23But there's feelings hurt because nobody's on the same page besides them.

00:08:27Wait, one more thing.

00:08:30I was told that apparently Elizabeth and Andre told Yara and Jovi that they had to choose

00:08:35between us or Yara and Jovi.

00:08:39I think I said it.

00:08:40Or I don't know.

00:08:41You said it.

00:08:41Yeah.

00:08:42When I said, hey, listen, you have to choose because you're playing a double game.

00:08:46Put your money where your mouth is.

00:08:47Yeah, yeah.

00:08:47What is your friend?

00:08:48Your friend or your friend?

00:08:50Because it seems like there's a lot of fakeness going on.

00:08:52So I was like, okay, let's figure it out.

00:08:54I don't think that it's fair to put you in a position.

00:08:56And choose, like, are we in high school?

00:09:00Okay, well, let me just ask very quickly.

00:09:02Yara.

00:09:03Yeah.

00:09:04Are you friends with Lauren?

00:09:07Yeah.

00:09:08Are you friends with Elizabeth?

00:09:10I mean, I don't know.

00:09:13I'm not sure.

00:09:16Okay.

00:09:16It's clear that feelings are hurt and emotions are high.

00:09:20So we're going to pause this conversation for right now and let everybody cool down.

00:09:23We will touch base later and we will be joined by Lauren's friend, Noga.

00:09:30Oh, my God.

00:09:31Bring her on.

00:09:32We are going to call it a day for right now.

00:09:35Have a great night, everybody.

00:09:37Oh.

00:09:37I'm so embarrassed.

00:09:48I'm so upset that I yelled.

00:09:50Yeah, we should keep our composure.

00:09:52But they really think they did nothing wrong.

00:09:55That's really up.

00:09:56Is the bartender going to be there tonight?

00:10:00Yeah, have me a drink ready.

00:10:01Tell him to make 10 margaritas.

00:10:02It seems like, you know, like, between me and Jovi, even though, you know, like, was frozen

00:10:08battles, I think we pretty much were squared up.

00:10:11You had a conversation with Jovi, but we didn't have a conversation.

00:10:14You guys should do the same thing, I think.

00:10:16I think...

00:10:16With who?

00:10:17You and Yara.

00:10:18Yeah, yeah.

00:10:18We stopped acting like teenagers.

00:10:20I mean, come on.

00:10:21All right, everybody.

00:10:22Please get changed and then you can head to the house.

00:10:25I don't like drama.

00:10:27Yeah, this is, like, a lot more to do with Lauren and Alex and Elizabeth than Andre.

00:10:30We're in the middle.

00:10:31I'm just trying to be friends with both of them.

00:10:33That's it.

00:10:34We'll see you at the house.

00:10:36See you at the house.

00:10:37This house is gonna get greasy.

00:10:40I'm going to the house.

00:10:42I think it's gonna be okay because today all the bad stuff happened.

00:10:46So now I feel pretty confident that it's gonna be less Gino and Jasmine drama.

00:10:50I'm helping.

00:10:53Today was the longest day.

00:10:54I have a lot of relief that I'm done.

00:10:57Jasmine is good to get in everybody's heads.

00:10:58Exactly.

00:10:59Hello.

00:11:00She's so good at that.

00:11:01Now I feel bad for Matt.

00:11:02Well, listen, he proposed whatever would have straightened her, whatever the f*** that

00:11:05was, but she should have said yes or just move on.

00:11:08You know, co-parent and that's it.

00:11:11Gina, how do you feel about Natalie?

00:11:13She's pretty.

00:11:14Oh, thank you.

00:11:15She has a good heart.

00:11:16You hate me, Miss Julia.

00:11:18You giggling, farting.

00:11:19Well, let me tell you something.

00:11:21She treats me very good and she doesn't fight with me.

00:11:25That's nice.

00:11:26You fresh start.

00:11:28Yes.

00:11:36Oh, f***.

00:11:37Oh, God.

00:11:38Honey, I'm home.

00:11:41Alrighty.

00:11:43Come on, let's go in here, yeah?

00:11:46Are you saying prayer before you...

00:11:48Oh, okay.

00:11:49Let's do a little prayer.

00:11:49You want to say prayer?

00:11:50You want to start?

00:11:51Let's do it.

00:11:54Let's do it.

00:11:56Thank you, God, for the day today.

00:12:00And Gino's...

00:12:02What are you grateful for today?

00:12:03Say, what are you grateful?

00:12:04Well, I'm grateful that I got through today and I feel like I can move forward again in my life.

00:12:14Praise God.

00:12:14Thank you, Lord, for protecting us and giving us grace to continue on these journeys that we live.

00:12:21Amen.

00:12:22Amen.

00:12:23We just had a good prayer.

00:12:25That's a good prayer.

00:12:26I like that.

00:12:27I like that.

00:12:28And what we're grateful for.

00:12:32You want a knife?

00:12:33So, what are you guys feeling?

00:12:36How was this today?

00:12:37I was shocked, you know, all the commotion.

00:12:40I didn't expect that between Lauren, Alexa, and you two after a five-year friendship.

00:12:45I didn't expect it either, honestly.

00:12:47Well, you didn't, yeah, didn't.

00:12:48Nope.

00:12:49Andre, were you being a dick?

00:12:51Probably.

00:12:56I know.

00:12:57I know, imagine.

00:12:59Be careful.

00:13:01Where's the kitchen, honey?

00:13:03He's starving.

00:13:04What in the hell has gone on here?

00:13:07Let me guess.

00:13:08Georgie's losing.

00:13:09Wow.

00:13:11Now we are talking.

00:13:12Hey!

00:13:14I'm here!

00:13:16Okay, let's go.

00:13:17Let's go.

00:13:18Hey, yeah, Gino!

00:13:20Almost.

00:13:21Let's go get some shots, dude.

00:13:22These people don't know how to play.

00:13:23Yeah, right?

00:13:23I don't know.

00:13:24We've spent enough time with people today, so we need to, like, decompress.

00:13:30Look, we got through today.

00:13:32It was very heated.

00:13:34I'm very tired.

00:13:34I don't think we got through.

00:13:35I don't want to spend more energy on them.

00:13:38Like, enough.

00:13:40Too much back and forth and screaming.

00:13:41This is Vatelo, so, yeah.

00:13:44Let's order a couple drinks.

00:13:45I'm going to make Andre and Alex friends.

00:13:47Elizabeth, do you want to come or do you want to say?

00:13:49I'm good.

00:13:50All right.

00:13:54All right, so I brought you guys a drink and a friend.

00:13:57What friend?

00:13:59No friends.

00:14:01Oh, wow.

00:14:02So I guess that's our cue to leave.

00:14:04All right, I want to ask a favor from all of y'all, because we're going to get into this

00:14:07some more, let's try to talk normal, because, like, I had a lot of stuff I wanted to say

00:14:12today, and because of you in particular, mostly you, also you, I couldn't get a word in.

00:14:17I couldn't say my opinion.

00:14:19I couldn't really speak for myself, and let's keep it a little more civilized.

00:14:23I think it got way too aggressive, way too quick.

00:14:24I yelled, and I hate that I yelled.

00:14:27I'm not going to apologize for yelling, but I hate that I yelled.

00:14:31No more apologizing.

00:14:32I think we should reconcile the things before we hear from that lady, from your friend,

00:14:38because we said that in Lake Place.

00:14:39Her name is Noga.

00:14:40Okay, lady, whatever.

00:14:41You can call her by her team.

00:14:42Nice, okay?

00:14:43It's nice.

00:14:43Lady is nice, because she's a lady, I think.

00:14:46But, you know, like, I'm just saying, you know, like, there are some things I want to ask her.

00:14:50If she does come, you have to let her get a word in.

00:14:54Okay, I will.

00:14:58Andre, I have to tell you wholeheartedly, I never said you were a horrible person.

00:15:04I think that was a lot of he said, she said.

00:15:06There's a big difference between a horrible person and calling somebody a dick.

00:15:10Okay.

00:15:10Your characteristic is a dick.

00:15:14Yeah, okay.

00:15:15I have a question.

00:15:17Who mentioned body shaming?

00:15:18Who mentioned it first, Andre?

00:15:20From, it comes from the text messages that I read.

00:15:25But who said it?

00:15:26But who said it?

00:15:26Who revealed this?

00:15:27Who said it?

00:15:27It comes from the context of what was conversation.

00:15:31Who said it?

00:15:32You're dodging the question.

00:15:34Did you say it, or did Elizabeth say it first?

00:15:36I'm more mad at Elizabeth at this point, because she did it, and she won't own it.

00:15:42In the clip that we saw today, Elizabeth said, you body shame your wife.

00:15:48Are we talking about this s*** again?

00:15:50I dare you, Darcy, to let Cara lick one of your naples.

00:16:07Oh!

00:16:08Oh!

00:16:08Whoa!

00:16:09I need to see that!

00:16:12Here, just let her hit me up.

00:16:14When she was going to sing, then she keeps going into a potty, drinking, and then to another

00:16:24potty, and then to someone else's house until like 4 a.m.

00:16:28She's just having fun.

00:16:30She didn't know cheer, you know?

00:16:31She just had fun.

00:16:32Are we talking about this s*** again?

00:16:45What is wrong with you?

00:16:47I'm trying to figure out who said something.

00:16:50But like, isn't everybody tired, Scoot?

00:16:52Oh my God, I can't.

00:16:53I can't do this again.

00:16:54But my question, my question.

00:16:56You're asking the question too many times.

00:16:58Now you want to clarify it, but I didn't clarify it at the moment.

00:17:01Why did you leave?

00:17:02We should have clarified it.

00:17:03Babe, just don't try.

00:17:04It's f***ing annoying.

00:17:05You know, like every time when it was getting deep, you leave.

00:17:08I don't have energy for this.

00:17:09We was thinking that you're controlling all of her because you're always taking her away

00:17:12from the situation.

00:17:13This was a situation that I got dragged into that just escalated and escalated and escalated.

00:17:18So yes, we did remove ourselves before it got so much worse.

00:17:22So what are we going to do?

00:17:24You guys kind of worked with each other forever.

00:17:26I don't give a flying s***.

00:17:28Babe, I'm sorry.

00:17:29Well, I'm done told.

00:17:30I don't know why.

00:17:31I'm like, it's just.

00:17:32It's okay.

00:17:33Oh, no.

00:17:34Are you taking her away from the situation?

00:17:36The irony.

00:17:37We just cast this in the studio.

00:17:41Nora, I'm sitting here and look who left.

00:17:45No.

00:17:46And that's okay?

00:17:47He literally said, you got up and left.

00:17:50Yeah, so I was thinking.

00:17:51And they just f***ed.

00:17:52He just f***ed left.

00:17:53Like, what a hypocrite.

00:17:54Yeah.

00:17:55Damn it.

00:17:56I don't know.

00:17:57It was her, like, last real friend.

00:18:01They push everybody away.

00:18:03Every friend, every family they have.

00:18:05Everybody.

00:18:06They just push everybody away.

00:18:07Oh, baby.

00:18:08Oh, did you know?

00:18:09Another point for you.

00:18:10All right.

00:18:11Catching her up.

00:18:12Oh, baby.

00:18:13Oh, did you know?

00:18:14Another point for you.

00:18:15All right.

00:18:16Catching her up.

00:18:19Oh.

00:18:24Welcome to my humble giant room.

00:18:27Wow.

00:18:28Make yourself at home.

00:18:30Very nice.

00:18:31All right.

00:18:32That's a good game.

00:18:33All right.

00:18:34What do you want to play?

00:18:35Truth or dare?

00:18:36True or dare?

00:18:38You're asking me?

00:18:39Mm-hmm.

00:18:40Let's do a dare.

00:18:42I dare you to do a backflip in the floor.

00:18:45Do you know how to do a backflip?

00:18:47Backflip?

00:18:48You know, you do it in the floor.

00:18:49Those are cheerleaders.

00:18:51You mean roll backwards?

00:18:52Oh, a roll.

00:18:53A roll.

00:18:54Oh, a roll.

00:18:55I was thinking you wanted, like, a back handspring.

00:18:57I was like, what the f***?

00:18:58You're right.

00:18:59Okay.

00:19:00I don't like that it didn't happen.

00:19:01How do I get over it?

00:19:02I don't know.

00:19:03Wait.

00:19:04How does one do that?

00:19:05I don't know.

00:19:06Okay.

00:19:07Yeah, that works.

00:19:08All right, Kara, your turn.

00:19:09All right.

00:19:10What are you calling out?

00:19:11Brandon.

00:19:12Truth or dare?

00:19:13What up?

00:19:14Yes, you.

00:19:15Truth.

00:19:16Boring.

00:19:17Boring.

00:19:18I dare.

00:19:19Yeah.

00:19:20I dare.

00:19:21Yeah.

00:19:22I dare.

00:19:23I dare.

00:19:24Yeah.

00:19:25I dare.

00:19:26I dare.

00:19:27I dare.

00:19:28I dare you to lick that door handle.

00:19:30I have to lick a door handle?

00:19:31Seriously?

00:19:32You're nasty.

00:19:33Lick it.

00:19:34Lick it.

00:19:35Lick it like a lollipop.

00:19:36You know what I'm saying?

00:19:37Have you opened this door?

00:19:38I do.

00:19:39Lick it.

00:19:40Lick it.

00:19:41Lick it.

00:19:42Lick it.

00:19:43Lick it.

00:19:44Lick it.

00:19:45Lick it.

00:19:46Lick it.

00:19:47Lick it.

00:19:48Lick it.

00:19:49Lick it.

00:19:50Lick it.

00:19:51Lick it.

00:19:52Lick it.

00:19:53Lick it.

00:19:54How dare you?

00:19:56Ew.

00:19:57You're nasty.

00:19:58All right, Matt.

00:19:59No.

00:20:00Son of a bitch.

00:20:01Son of a bitch.

00:20:02You got it.

00:20:03You got it.

00:20:04I dare.

00:20:05Dare?

00:20:06I dare you.

00:20:07Suck a toe.

00:20:08A toe?

00:20:09Suck a toe.

00:20:10Because I have a foot fetish and he...

00:20:12We've seen it, yeah.

00:20:13Exactly.

00:20:14Can he at least wash the foot?

00:20:15He finds that disgusting.

00:20:17No, I'm not watching.

00:20:18If you love me.

00:20:19What the hell are you talking about?

00:20:20No, I'm not watching.

00:20:21If you love me.

00:20:22What the hell are you talking about?

00:20:23No, girl.

00:20:24You'd be walking on the floor and stuff.

00:20:25Suck a toe.

00:20:26Suck a toe.

00:20:27Suck it.

00:20:28Suck it.

00:20:29Suck it.

00:20:30And the big one.

00:20:31No.

00:20:32Yeah.

00:20:33No.

00:20:34He didn't say the big one.

00:20:35I just said it too.

00:20:36Okay, whatever.

00:20:37Did you walk on the barefooter?

00:20:38I didn't.

00:20:39You're such a liar.

00:20:42Puppi, suck it.

00:20:43Bruh.

00:20:44You got it.

00:20:46Oh.

00:20:47Oh, wow.

00:20:48Pointer toe?

00:20:49Suck it.

00:20:50Oh, my.

00:20:51I got to wash my mouth.

00:20:56If he only knew where this toe had to be.

00:21:09That was a sweaty ass toe.

00:21:12It was salty.

00:21:13Son of a bitch.

00:21:14I went to the bathroom barefoot and all that .

00:21:19Good.

00:21:20To the bathroom.

00:21:21Now I have to kiss Matilda with this.

00:21:23Yeah.

00:21:24I hope you're happy.

00:21:25Oh, my God.

00:21:26Listen.

00:21:27Like, imagine you sucking.

00:21:30Respectfully saying, Gino's his feet.

00:21:36Really?

00:21:37I swear to God.

00:21:38He.

00:21:39Typical Gino trying to save money on a pedicure.

00:21:45Yo.

00:21:46You got a game?

00:21:49I have a funny idea.

00:21:50You got that paper with you?

00:21:51Paper?

00:21:52Your phone records.

00:21:53Let's call that number.

00:21:54See if Mat answers the phone.

00:21:55He's lying to us.

00:21:58I'll call it.

00:22:02Let me see her number.

00:22:04Hold on a second.

00:22:06Yeah.

00:22:07Here, look.

00:22:08Me too.

00:22:09That's his number.

00:22:10Here.

00:22:17It's probably ringing.

00:22:18Is it?

00:22:19Yep.

00:22:23He might not have changed the number.

00:22:30Oh, what are you guys doing in here?

00:22:32Guys, come, come, come.

00:22:33You having a little sleepover?

00:22:35We're playing Truth or Dare.

00:22:36Truth or Dare?

00:22:37Yeah.

00:22:38Okay.

00:22:39Don't you dare never hurt anybody?

00:22:41But we've done some scandalous things before your arrival.

00:22:44Yeah.

00:22:45Okay, baby.

00:22:46This is your turn.

00:22:47Oh, me?

00:22:48I'll do Truth.

00:22:49Do you still have feelings for Guillermo?

00:22:51Oh, my God.

00:22:52Truth.

00:22:53The whole truth.

00:23:00I will always love Guillermo.

00:23:03I will always love Guillermo.

00:23:04We share a child.

00:23:07Wow.

00:23:08Hmm.

00:23:11She created a song in the main course of the song.

00:23:14It's like, try.

00:23:16And we need to just try.

00:23:17Yeah.

00:23:18Yeah, sure.

00:23:19Yeah, it's about trying.

00:23:20Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:23:21Yeah.

00:23:22Yeah.

00:23:23I don't feel like we really tried.

00:23:24I tried.

00:23:25That's what I'm saying.

00:23:26It's what you don't get here.

00:23:27No, no, no, no, no.

00:23:28You just shut down.

00:23:29You didn't communicate.

00:23:30I was trying.

00:23:31Because our marriage was getting up.

00:23:35Mm-hmm.

00:23:36Mm-hmm.

00:23:37I think that you should have chosen there.

00:23:41I'm sorry.

00:23:42Hold on.

00:23:43Hold on.

00:23:44Hold on.

00:23:45Hold on.

00:23:46Hold on.

00:23:47Somebody says, who is this?

00:23:48They say to me back.

00:23:49Oh, he replied.

00:23:50I asked him if it's Matthew.

00:23:51Yeah.

00:23:52This is Matthew.

00:23:53Like this?

00:23:54Yes.

00:23:55He's not going to say yes.

00:23:56No, he's going to be like, what the you want?

00:23:57Yeah.

00:23:58You started for me.

00:23:59Okay.

00:24:00Jasmine.

00:24:01Uh-huh.

00:24:02Truth or dare?

00:24:03Okay.

00:24:04Truth.

00:24:05Do you love Matt the same as you love Gino?

00:24:24Hmm.

00:24:25I think that, I don't know.

00:24:29I think that with Gino, I didn't love him in a healthy way,

00:24:36but I was so obsessed with him.

00:24:38Like I love him, you know, in a very passionate way.

00:24:41No, she doesn't love me as much as him.

00:24:43Right?

00:24:44I was like, I think it was a yes or no.

00:24:45I don't want to be that person again, but I do love him.

00:24:49I like his companion.

00:24:52Sex is the freaking best.

00:24:56Well, you definitely have chemistry.

00:24:59Hello.

00:25:00Oh, hi.

00:25:01Welcome.

00:25:02My baby.

00:25:03Yeah, my new people.

00:25:04Yeah.

00:25:05It's my turn.

00:25:09The queen.

00:25:10The newcomer to the circle.

00:25:11Dare.

00:25:12Oh, she has this.

00:25:14Double D, baby.

00:25:15Double D.

00:25:16My girl.

00:25:17I dare you, Darcy,

00:25:21to let Cara lick one of your nipples.

00:25:27Oh!

00:25:28Babe!

00:25:29Oh!

00:25:30Whoa!

00:25:31I need to see that!

00:25:34Here, I'll lick your boob, but not your nipple.

00:25:37Okay.

00:25:38And let me see.

00:25:39Get come closer.

00:25:40Here, just one.

00:25:41Yeah.

00:25:42I'm such a pervert.

00:25:43No, she has to lick twice for me.

00:25:45She did it.

00:25:46She did it.

00:25:47No, I didn't see it.

00:25:48Ah!

00:25:51Yeah, double D's, baby.

00:25:53Y'all are ratchet and hell with that.

00:25:55Zero .

00:25:56True or dare?

00:25:58I can't dare.

00:26:00Okay.

00:26:01Okay.

00:26:02I want you are dancing for your wife.

00:26:05She's still your wife.

00:26:06Take off your shirt and make sexy feeding her this sandwich

00:26:11without your hand.

00:26:13Show the Latino movement.

00:26:17Da, da, da, da, do, de, do, do, do, do, do.

00:26:31Yeah, lo, lo, lo, lo, lo, lo, do, do, do!

00:26:34She's being a bugger.

00:26:36Punish her!

00:26:39I made her smell it.

00:26:40There you go.

00:26:41Ah!

00:26:44I'm doing that.

00:26:46Yeah!

00:26:47It's his, it's his!

00:26:48Miles, Miles!

00:26:51Sock it, I mean, it's .

00:26:59Wow, that was cute.

00:27:01Look, it's the spider, let's see.

00:27:03Bring it on.

00:27:05Says, I don't know where you are.

00:27:06If it wasn't him, he'd say wrong number.

00:27:09Where's Matt?

00:27:10Upstairs.

00:27:11Somebody see if he's on his phone.

00:27:12Where is he?

00:27:13Let's go sneak and see.

00:27:14I'll peek around the corner.

00:27:15Oh, come on, somebody put my camera on him.

00:27:17Why?

00:27:18Oh, here, yeah.

00:27:19Upstairs, we'll see if he's texting.

00:27:20If he's on his phone right now, that's him.

00:27:22Oh, yes.

00:27:33Kara, you're still living in the house

00:27:35that you and Guillermo bought together.

00:27:36Yes.

00:27:37You trying to get his name off the deed?

00:27:40I mean, I think it's fair.

00:27:42He didn't contribute money, and that's

00:27:43the reality of what happened.

00:27:45But it's not.

00:27:46That's a dumb way to think about it.

00:27:52We'll see if he's texting.

00:27:53If he's on his phone right now, that's Matt.

00:27:55It's too loud.

00:27:57We couldn't sleep.

00:27:58You guys missed some crazy .

00:28:00Missed it.

00:28:01Licked doorknob, licked toes.

00:28:03.

00:28:05Big , yeah, that's right.

00:28:06More action here than I get with you.

00:28:08By me.

00:28:09By hope.

00:28:10All right, let me do it one more time.

00:28:26Is somebody texting you?

00:28:26No, I'm not playing.

00:28:27No, I'm not playing.

00:28:28Why?

00:28:29Why?

00:28:30Was somebody texting you earlier?

00:28:32I have no idea why.

00:28:34Were you texting somebody earlier?

00:28:36No.

00:28:39I'm going to go back and get a drink.

00:28:40Yeah, let's go back.

00:28:41Yeah, we're good here.

00:28:42It's kind of boring here.

00:28:42Yeah.

00:28:43What?

00:28:45Our spy mission was a total bust.

00:28:48I mean, either Matt changed his phone number,

00:28:50or Gino's lying.

00:28:52I don't know.

00:28:54All right.

00:28:54Please leave your message.

00:28:55No.

00:28:56Did they figure it out upstairs or no?

00:28:58I don't know.

00:28:59Children, come back.

00:29:01What did you discover?

00:29:02Nothing.

00:29:04Nothing.

00:29:04He wasn't on his phone.

00:29:06Jasmine's looking at me like I'm crazy.

00:29:08I'm like, Matt, are you texting anybody right now?

00:29:11And he was like, no.

00:29:13I called like three times, nothing happens.

00:29:15Answer?

00:29:15Nothing happens, nothing happens.

00:29:18Matt's phone number was definitely a match

00:29:22at the time that I pulled the phone records,

00:29:24because I verified it myself.

00:29:26So the fact that Matt changed his number,

00:29:29I mean, that just shows he's guilty.

00:29:33So you can't even question it.

00:29:35I just hear somebody upstairs leak Darcy's boobs.

00:29:38Oh, yeah?

00:29:39What did you say?

00:29:40Somebody touched her boobs?

00:29:41Lick it.

00:29:42Who?

00:29:43Guillermo?

00:29:44Kara?

00:29:45Oh, OK.

00:29:48They're playing a game.

00:29:49In the front of other people there?

00:29:52They're having fun.

00:29:53Are you doing that on squat?

00:29:53Oh, they're having fun.

00:29:54That's an excuse.

00:29:55They're having fun.

00:29:56Let's go straight cup.

00:29:57I'm just going to have fun.

00:29:58Yeah.

00:30:00OK, well, I have a dare for all of you.

00:30:02Yay!

00:30:04I dare you all to get the out of my room.

00:30:06Oh, my gosh.

00:30:06My pleasure.

00:30:07Yay!

00:30:09That was fun.

00:30:10All of us?

00:30:10I love you, love you.

00:30:11Don't get me wrong.

00:30:12You sure all of us?

00:30:13You maybe somebody want to stay?

00:30:15Thank you for having us.

00:30:16I think all of you is just fine.

00:30:19All right, when's the last time you guys had sex?

00:30:22How many months?

00:30:23Y'all told me three in Miami when we hung out.

00:30:26Jovi, when was that?

00:30:27Oh, that was like three months ago.

00:30:29So that would be six months.

00:30:30We're just too busy.

00:30:31She said jade-money.

00:30:32Too busy to have sex?

00:30:33Yeah.

00:30:34Oh, come on.

00:30:34You can do a quickie.

00:30:37You just wanted a nice vacation.

00:30:38I feel like that's the first thing you want to do

00:30:39when you get there.

00:30:40I don't know.

00:30:43Hey, guys.

00:30:45How's the party?

00:30:46What's up with a leak in the upstairs?

00:30:48That was the fun room.

00:30:50Played a little truth in there.

00:30:50What did you do there?

00:30:51No.

00:30:52Got my tit licked.

00:30:54How she licked your nipples?

00:30:55Like this.

00:30:58In the front of everybody.

00:31:01That's right, baby.

00:31:02So everybody see your boobs upstairs?

00:31:04It was fun, innocent fun.

00:31:07What's up with a sex situation, seriously?

00:31:08I don't know.

00:31:09Ask him.

00:31:10Ask me?

00:31:11You tired all the time.

00:31:12You're not in the mood for us.

00:31:13Dad, stop blaming me for everything, first and foremost.

00:31:18We both have to want it.

00:31:19But you know what I'm saying?

00:31:20Like, it's like, are you getting it off

00:31:21somewhere else, like in the shower,

00:31:23at the steam room with a hottie?

00:31:25Definitely somewhere, because you're not going to,

00:31:27like, if you last for two weeks,

00:31:29you're going to in your sleep.

00:31:33I have wizards, yeah.

00:31:35You do?

00:31:36Why not a woman?

00:31:37You have a woman.

00:31:38Oscar.

00:31:39Yeah, I mean, obviously, I'm, you know,

00:31:42hormonal at this moment.

00:31:44But I also want some romance.

00:31:45I want to, like,

00:31:46It only takes, what, five, ten minutes?

00:31:48No, he's quick.

00:31:49He's quick.

00:31:49He is, it's like a wham-bam, thank you, ma'am.

00:31:51It ain't, it ain't ours as long as a band shirt.

00:31:53OK.

00:31:53One pump choke?

00:31:54If I really wanted it, it's like, all right.

00:31:56I don't mind that.

00:31:57You know, you're actually, like, you know,

00:31:59slow and a little gentle.

00:32:00You're never, like, freaky or nothing like that.

00:32:02I've had freaky.

00:32:03Yes, dude.

00:32:04You're saying, Georgie's boring.

00:32:06I don't know.

00:32:07It's like, this is, we both probably are now.

00:32:09We just got so used to each other.

00:32:11You know, we need to spice it up.

00:32:13So maybe we need to do something.

00:32:14Y'all take a shot of tequila, make your way upstairs,

00:32:17and renew your six-month membership.

00:32:19Renew your membership.

00:32:21Do you want to go in the room having sex?

00:32:24Let's do it.

00:32:25Take a shot and go.

00:32:27Let's take it to the bedroom, baby.

00:32:29Do you have a problem, dude?

00:32:30Like, what's the problem?

00:32:31Like, do you have a problem?

00:32:32Roll, roll, roll.

00:32:33Why are you not your wife?

00:32:34I'll give you some liquid courage.

00:32:37She better be smiling ear to ear.

00:32:39Yeah.

00:32:40Tomorrow we're going to be in the studio.

00:32:41I'm Bogarian.

00:32:43Yes.

00:32:44All of you are going to hear us scream tonight.

00:32:51Let's go.

00:32:52Oh.

00:32:57Come to bed.

00:33:01Yeah, baby.

00:33:04Don't fall asleep.

00:33:06Wake up.

00:33:09Gorgie, you feel like a dead body.

00:33:12I can't breathe.

00:33:14Help, help, help.

00:33:19Oh my god, that was so much fun.

00:33:21Two to third day.

00:33:22Kara, I'll never forget you.

00:33:24I tasted your perfume for like an hour after that.

00:33:36Oh, I'm so ready.

00:33:37Yeah.

00:33:38Let's do this.

00:33:39So excited.

00:33:40You know, you got it.

00:33:41Thank you, sir.

00:33:42Ready?

00:33:43Ready?

00:33:44Ready?

00:33:45Yeah.

00:33:46It's like the last time I'm ready.

00:33:47Uh-huh.

00:33:48I didn't step down, boy.

00:33:49Switch.

00:33:50Switch.

00:33:51Switch.

00:33:52Switch.

00:33:53Switch.

00:33:54I'm on the side.

00:33:55You got a hungry arm.

00:33:56I'm fired.

00:33:57I'm fired.

00:33:58I'm fired.

00:33:59I'm fired.

00:34:00I'm fired.

00:34:01I'm fired.

00:34:02I'm fired.

00:34:03I'm fired.

00:34:04I'm fired.

00:34:06We're going first today?

00:34:07Good for me.

00:34:08It's OK.

00:34:09We can just get it out of the way.

00:34:10Yeah.

00:34:11All my cries out.

00:34:16I feel very dropy today.

00:34:18I'm not in a good one.

00:34:24Good morning, guys.

00:34:25What's up?

00:34:27Good morning.

00:34:29Good to see you.

00:34:31How was your night?

00:34:32Never better.

00:34:33I didn't see you guys.

00:34:34I didn't see you guys last night.

00:34:35So what was happening upstairs?

00:34:36Anything crazy?

00:34:37Man, weird, weird stuff happened.

00:34:39OK.

00:34:40Now I want to know.

00:34:41Brandon licked a door, how do you say it?

00:34:45A doorknob?

00:34:46Uh-huh.

00:34:48OK, I'm glad I was downstairs.

00:34:49Hey.

00:34:50What's up?

00:34:51I heard you licking doorknobs.

00:34:52What happened last night?

00:34:53Sucked the gold off that thing, right?

00:34:55Was it a bet?

00:34:56Like, what was happening?

00:34:57We were just sitting around playing truth or dare.

00:34:59Y'all were quiet.

00:35:00I figured everybody went to sleep.

00:35:01Really?

00:35:01Yeah.

00:35:02Oh, no.

00:35:02I thought we were loud as .

00:35:03I mean, maybe the house does have, how do you say?

00:35:07Good walls?

00:35:08Yeah.

00:35:09Sound-proving, yeah.

00:35:10I mean, I haven't heard anybody having sex, so.

00:35:13How about you?

00:35:14Yeah.

00:35:14How about me?

00:35:15With what?

00:35:16Do you have sex?

00:35:17Ha!

00:35:19Wasn't Carl hot and bothered after your little private dance?

00:35:21No dance?

00:35:23Yeah.

00:35:24Ha!

00:35:25Ha!

00:35:26Ha!

00:35:27Ha!

00:35:28Ha!

00:35:29Ha!

00:35:30Ha!

00:35:31Ha!

00:35:32Ha!

00:35:33Ha!

00:35:34Ha!

00:35:34My love!

00:35:35I didn't.

00:35:35I saw you, but you were getting makeup, and I didn't.

00:35:37I wanted to.

00:35:38I, I, I hear it.

00:35:39You're good?

00:35:40I have your back.

00:35:41Relax.

00:35:42You are who matters.

00:35:45So, I'm not crying.

00:35:46No, just shh.

00:35:47Shhh.

00:35:48Breathing exercises.

00:35:49I need, I need to.

00:35:51Squish it.

00:35:52Squish it, squish it.

00:35:53I came here thinking, like, everybody was going to probably be a dick to me.

00:35:57But overall, everybody has been, like, pretty cool to me and pretty nice.

00:36:02I wanted to not like you.

00:36:04Oh, okay.

00:36:05Nobody wants to like him.

00:36:06And then you meet him and you're like, oh, that plan.

00:36:08He's so likable. It's crazy.

00:36:11Yeah, unfortunately.

00:36:13Unfortunately.

00:36:14He's socializing more today. He feels more confident.

00:36:17Look at our kids, them on the couch, talking with people.

00:36:20I just have to keep, like, an eye on Matt.

00:36:23He's too charming sometimes. I don't like that.

00:36:27Is it charming?

00:36:28Yeah, because with Gino, I didn't care because he's so bitchy to everyone.

00:36:33Like, you know?

00:36:33No, you know, isn't it nice?

00:36:37No.

00:36:38I guess I, too, like, I've seen Jasmine blow up and, like, cry so much, so much, that I was like, oh, here we go.

00:36:46Is it just going to be, like, one big drama show all the time?

00:36:49See, just like that.

00:36:51I'm literally trying to say, I thought you were going to be so much drama, but you actually turned out to be so nice.

00:36:55But you're just proving the first part.

00:36:59I don't want to interrupt the peace and quiet.

00:37:01Are you sure?

00:37:02So I'm going to be in this corner because apparently I'm too loud.

00:37:06Hi, Darcy. Good morning.

00:37:07Hi, Mama.

00:37:07Oh, it's so nice to see Georgie by Darcy's side.

00:37:11Amen.

00:37:12Because sometimes I forget that you're even a couple because it's always Darcy by herself.

00:37:18I know.

00:37:18He likes to walk off.

00:37:19And Georgie with any female except from his wife.

00:37:22True.

00:37:23Shots fired.

00:37:24Shots fired.

00:37:26Jesus.

00:37:27All right, guys.

00:37:28We're ready for you back on set.

00:37:30All right.

00:37:31Do this.

00:37:31All right.

00:37:32Kara, you guys first?

00:37:34Good boy.

00:37:36It's our time, G.

00:37:43Good morning.

00:37:44Good morning.

00:37:52And I hope I don't pop out of my dress.

00:37:55You might have to have my back.

00:37:57Let me know if you see anything.

00:37:59Right, please.

00:38:02Five, four, three, two.

00:38:07Welcome back to 90 Day Fiancé.

00:38:09Happily Ever After, The Couples Tell All.

00:38:12All right, everybody.

00:38:13Are you guys ready?

00:38:14Yep.

00:38:15We are ready.

00:38:16I want to start off with Kara and Guillermo.

00:38:20Now, I understand there was a little bit of flirting going on last night between the two

00:38:26of you.

00:38:26Is that right?

00:38:27I think, in my opinion, I think we, there's a lot of stuff happening that's really heavy.

00:38:33Yeah.

00:38:34And I think our way to deal with it has seemed to be to just joke and keep it very, like,

00:38:40light.

00:38:40Yeah.

00:38:41Because once we start to really get into it.

00:38:44Mm-hmm.

00:38:46So what is the status of your relationship?

00:38:48Separated.

00:38:53Separated.

00:38:54Living separate.

00:38:55Co-parenting.

00:38:55Living separate lives.

00:38:56Co-parenting.

00:38:56Still married.

00:38:59Kara, you're still living in the house that you and Guillermo bought together.

00:39:02Yes.

00:39:02Okay.

00:39:03All right.

00:39:05And Guillermo, oh, you just threw me a look right there.

00:39:08How do you feel about that?

00:39:10Never better.

00:39:12Never better?

00:39:13Yeah.

00:39:13Okay.

00:39:14So you both bought that house together with both your funds.

00:39:19Mm-hmm.

00:39:20Right.

00:39:23Mm-hmm.

00:39:23The looks between you two.

00:39:25Kara, is that right?

00:39:26You bought that house together with both your funds?

00:39:28Uh, sure, in the sense that we're married and so our funds are won.

00:39:32Yeah.

00:39:34Kara, is Guillermo's name on the house?

00:39:38Yeah, not on the loan, but on the deed.

00:39:41And when we bought the house, obviously I was okay with him being on the deed.

00:39:46I wanted to create a future with him.

00:39:48Yes.

00:39:49But now that we're separate, now I think about it and like, oh, I really did everything to

00:39:54really get us into that house, and he just gets to have 50% ownership.

00:39:59Are you trying to get his name off the deed?

00:40:03I mean, I think it's fair.

00:40:05He doesn't live there.

00:40:06He didn't contribute money.

00:40:08And that's the reality of what happened.

00:40:09Mm-mm, that is not.

00:40:11I'm just waiting for my moment.

00:40:13Well, go ahead.

00:40:14Have your moment.

00:40:16I remember actually clear conversations, and actually you were the one putting every single

00:40:22thing that I will spend in the house or in the family.

00:40:26And actually it was more than what you were putting into the house.

00:40:29And then the payment that I was doing, it was like food and these and the older and the

00:40:34kid and the da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.

00:40:35Specifically about the house, it was more so me.

00:40:38As our budget as a whole, it was sometimes more him depending on what the bills were that

00:40:43month.

00:40:45But you can't separate the two.

00:40:46You were living together and spending money on everything.

00:40:49You can't separate the house from everything else.

00:40:51You can't give him back his food.

00:40:53Yeah, but the food he paid for is not accruing equity over the next 25 years either.

00:40:59But wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

00:41:01But that's a dumb way to think about it.

00:41:04Even if you're saying that you're paying this and I'm paying that, at the end of the day, it's one.

00:41:10I wanted it to be one thing.

00:41:12I wanted it to be together.

00:41:13I wanted it to be one thing.

00:41:15You wanted it and it was.

00:41:18How much is it worth?

00:41:20Do you want to fight that battle and you want to claim 50%?

00:41:24How much did you put in?

00:41:25Listen, I come from nothing and I don't care if I go back there.

00:41:33I just want to have a good life.

00:41:35That's it.

00:41:36And if fighting with you, it's not going to give me that, so then just keep it.

00:41:41You have decided that you are going to give up your 50%.

00:41:47Which is very nice of you, but to be honest, if the shoe was to be turned the other way

00:41:56and you were paying the mortgage and she was paying more on the rest of the bills,

00:42:00she would be claiming, I'm paying more now.

00:42:02There are so many things that there's no equality in this era.

00:42:07You don't think there's equality in your relationship with Kara?

00:42:14No.

00:42:14When she drinks, it's a completely different person.

00:42:24I don't feel comfortable with this.

00:42:26She's basically saying she's not wife material.

00:42:29Stop, Andrew.

00:42:30That's what it is.

00:42:33Yes.

00:42:33You don't think there's equality in your relationship with Kara?

00:42:47No.

00:42:50If I will do the same things that she do, I will definitely be looking really bad.

00:42:58Like, for example?

00:42:58I keep my kid.

00:43:01I don't care about you.

00:43:02It's not your country, but still, I don't care about you.

00:43:05I've never said that to you.

00:43:06No, but it's the truth.

00:43:09It's there.

00:43:09Like, you can see it.

00:43:13Guillermo, do you think that you would be treated differently by Kara

00:43:16if you did not have a son together?

00:43:24Yes.

00:43:26In what way?

00:43:28Um, would you like to answer that?

00:43:32No, you can answer.

00:43:35Um, there is a small line of respect that I feel from her just because I'm the father of her kid.

00:43:50And if Nico wouldn't be there, that respect, it will be none.

00:44:00Wow.

00:44:00Sounds bad.

00:44:02Think you would already be divorced?

00:44:03I would, yeah, I will, I will, I will, I will think so.

00:44:07What respect means for you?

00:44:09What does respect?

00:44:10You said she has more respect for you.

00:44:11What does it mean for you?

00:44:12I will start with the way she will speak to me.

00:44:16She speaks down to you.

00:44:18Yeah.

00:44:18Down means rude and, and names and all of that kind of stuff.

00:44:24Like, that's how she is.

00:44:27That's how Kara is.

00:44:28In fact, Rona said, Guillermo, the way Kara speaks to you, that's really bad.

00:44:35That's what Kara's mother told you.

00:44:37Yeah.

00:44:39What am I saying to you that you find so disrespectful?

00:44:43Do you call him names?

00:44:45No?

00:44:46No?

00:44:47What did I call you?

00:44:50I think my general tone sometimes can be sharp, particularly if I'm upset or angry or whatever.

00:44:55And I think he finds that tone disrespectful.

00:44:59No, no, no, we're talking about words, like, mother

00:45:02like, all of those words that they can come out, that in my opinion, you shouldn't be saying

00:45:09those things to your husband.

00:45:11The way you spoke to me, it's not the right way to speak to me.

00:45:17Okay, I want to pivot to another point of contention in your relationship.

00:45:23Kara, what is the status of your music career?

00:45:26It's just growing and evolving.

00:45:29Bringing in money?

00:45:30You know, music is a really hard industry.

00:45:32And I don't know that you see profit for a while.

00:45:36Okay.

00:45:37I want to look back at how Kara's dream of a music career resulted in a nightmare for her

00:45:43marriage.

00:45:44Let's watch.

00:45:45People started arriving like an hour ago, and Guillermo still isn't here.

00:45:53There was a time when Guillermo was different.

00:45:55He was really supportive of my performances and of my career.

00:46:01I never had the feeling that one day, maybe he wouldn't be there as my biggest supporter,

00:46:06my biggest fan.

00:46:07I'm not going to be part of the possible bullshit that could be going on in Kara's life.

00:46:19Like going out, drinking, partying, even the way she probably could dress in me is going to

00:46:40probably make me feel so weird.

00:46:43Normally, she will wear something like no clothes or almost not clothes.

00:46:49And I've said like, yo, that makes me a little bit, a little bit weird.

00:46:54And every time I said that, she's like, who the do you think you are to tell me what to do,

00:46:59what to wear and stuff?

00:47:01And I'm, it's not that I'm telling you what to do, what to wear.

00:47:03Not at all.

00:47:04It's just that it makes me feel a little bit weird.

00:47:09You know what?

00:47:10Enjoy your life.

00:47:12Go do your thing.

00:47:14But I'm not going to be part of it.

00:47:17Kara, when you were watching that,

00:47:20what were you feeling?

00:47:22I guess it's just the realization that somehow I've ended up married to someone

00:47:30that just like, doesn't support me.

00:47:36I just never thought it was going to be that way.

00:47:40You know?

00:47:41If anybody should be there, it should be him.

00:47:43Even if it was in the middle of a desert.

00:47:46You know?

00:47:46Like if anyone should be there, it should be my husband.

00:47:48Yeah, I think you should have been there for her and supported her.

00:47:56When she was going out to sing, then she keeps going into a potty,

00:48:01drinking, and then to another potty,

00:48:05and then to someone else's house until like 4 a.m.

00:48:08And I'm like, yo, were you not going to sing and then come back home to your family?

00:48:14No, no, no.

00:48:14It's to continue from this place to another place, to continue drinking.

00:48:19And we know, we know.

00:48:21She's just having fun.

00:48:24But she did not cheat, you know?

00:48:25She just had fun.

00:48:28No, that's okay.

00:48:30I actually went to New York two weeks ago,

00:48:32to Manhattan without Jovi for my birthday.

00:48:34And Jovi didn't have no problem with that.

00:48:36I go out, we go to the bar with my friends.

00:48:39Think from his perspective, if he goes out until 4 o'clock in the morning,

00:48:43three parties, would you believe him?

00:48:46He's singing only?

00:48:47If his goal was to be a singer,

00:48:50and he had a show, I would never miss his show.

00:48:53So he has a jealousy problem, okay.

00:48:56Yeah, I think she's using the music as an excuse for her to continue to go out

00:49:00because she knows that Guillermo doesn't like it.

00:49:01But maybe she's not happy in her marriage.

00:49:02So if she's already there, it's an excuse to keep going.

00:49:05If I would have done the same thing, I'll be in trouble.

00:49:07No, if you would have done the same thing,

00:49:09I would have been by your side with you the whole time.

00:49:12I think she would be with you.

00:49:12Yeah, if you will be there for her, she will go home with you.

00:49:17Look, I have a problem with Cara when she drinks.

00:49:26When she drinks, it's a completely different person.

00:49:33And she knows it.

00:49:37Tell us about this DJ friend of yours.

00:49:45He was writing her.

00:49:47And the way he was writing, it was to invite her out.

00:49:51And then she would be acting in very different ways.

00:49:54I'll be very honest.

00:49:55If I went to him tomorrow and was like, hey, let's hook up,

00:49:58I have no doubts he would.

00:49:59Oh, my God.

00:50:00When she drinks, it's a completely different person.

00:50:15So then I was like, hey, listen, I don't feel comfortable with this.

00:50:18So then I would get scared of going to those places because then she'd be drinking

00:50:23and then she would be acting in very different ways.

00:50:26She would be like very cute and cozy with some other guys.

00:50:30She would be like dancing very cute with other guys.

00:50:33They think they have a chance.

00:50:34Exactly.

00:50:35She's not being like, oh, okay, sorry.

00:50:37Like, I'm not going to speak to these people.

00:50:39I'm married.

00:50:40Like, I feel like that never comes up.

00:50:41She's a singer.

00:50:42Aren't those her fans?

00:50:44I mean, imagine.

00:50:46But I think you still have to be respectful to your marriage.

00:50:49I get a terrible point.

00:50:50So it's disrespectful.

00:50:51I've been there, right?

00:50:52She's going somewhere.

00:50:53Like, what, she's just going to hang out there

00:50:55and she's going to talk around everybody around

00:50:57and he's just staying there watching, having a drink.

00:51:00It don't feel okay.

00:51:01He could also enjoy himself.

00:51:05Kara, do you think you become a different person when you drink?

00:51:08I think I become more fun when I drink.

00:51:12For you, not for your mom.

00:51:16He doesn't look like he has fun when you drink.

00:51:20He's basically saying she's not wife material.

00:51:22That's what it is.

00:51:23What?

00:51:24Yes, that's what it is.

00:51:25She can do all of it.

00:51:27Wife is not the only wife who sit at home and cook and clean.

00:51:30Stop, Andrew.

00:51:31He doesn't want to see his woman going out and speaking and taking shots.

00:51:34To some other woman, why could you choose her than to be his wife?

00:51:37From day one when I met Guillermo, I've never not been who I am.

00:51:41Like, I never changed.

00:51:43He changed.

00:51:44He was fine with who I was.

00:51:46What if she stopped drinking and just did networking after the show

00:51:50for one hour and then comes home?

00:51:52Would it change the situation?

00:51:53Beautiful life.

00:51:54In fact, in fact, my man.

00:51:57She's just having fun.

00:51:58In fact, my man.

00:51:59No, no, no, no, no.

00:52:01We agreed that she had a problem drinking.

00:52:05I was going to ask that.

00:52:06Does she have a drinking problem?

00:52:09In my opinion, she does.

00:52:10In his opinion, I would...

00:52:12And then she said to my face, hey, you know what?

00:52:15I'm going to stop drinking.

00:52:17Did you say that, Kim?

00:52:18I did.

00:52:19In an effort to save our marriage, which time over time, he says, I never tried.

00:52:27I didn't try hard enough.

00:52:28I didn't take accountability.

00:52:29I looked at him and said, okay, maybe you're right.

00:52:31I can stop drinking.

00:52:32I will try to stop drinking because I want our marriage to work.

00:52:36And how did that go?

00:52:37Two weeks.

00:52:38I mean, I definitely started drinking.

00:52:40But like...

00:52:41Two weeks.

00:52:42Two weeks, no drink.

00:52:44Yeah, but he was still being ridiculous also.

00:52:47So you said, forget it.

00:52:47I'm going to start drinking again.

00:52:49Ridiculous?

00:52:49What?

00:52:49I'm trying to build trust.

00:52:51I'm trying to go back and feel comfortable again.

00:52:53No, I was trying to communicate with you.

00:52:54You were shutting me down.

00:52:55I couldn't.

00:52:55You were giving non-answers.

00:52:56I was...

00:52:57You were making uncomfortable.

00:52:59I'm uncomfortable.

00:52:59And I was like, okay, so now I stopped drinking to try to save our marriage.

00:53:02And he's not doing any work.

00:53:03I'm giving up stuff.

00:53:04I'm making sacrifices.

00:53:05I'm trying to fix it.

00:53:06How are you doing?

00:53:06Yeah, I'm wondering, did you think you had a drinking problem, Kara?

00:53:10I mean, there's definitely been times where I've gone too hard.

00:53:13Okay.

00:53:15So were you doing it, giving up drinking just for Guillermo?

00:53:19Or did you feel like it was something that you should do for yourself?

00:53:22Maybe a little column A, maybe a little column B.

00:53:24I mean, I think alcohol is not good for you long term.

00:53:26It obviously doesn't make you feel good.

00:53:27But then you only gave it two weeks, right?

00:53:29Yeah.

00:53:31Okay.

00:53:31Do you think you should have gone a little bit longer?

00:53:35Would that have made a difference, do you think?

00:53:37No, I don't.

00:53:38That's why I just started drinking again.

00:53:39Because I was like, clearly me doing...

00:53:40I just didn't feel like it was going to make any difference.

00:53:42Because he was still being like standoffish and mean.

00:53:45Look, look, she doesn't like when people tell her what to do.

00:53:50And this is not just coming from me, because I just want to say it.

00:53:53When I start...

00:53:54No, I can't on that.

00:53:54Yeah, she can agree.

00:53:56Her mother told me when I got here, Kara is the type that she would do whatever she wants.

00:54:02Be careful, be careful.

00:54:04Her mom said this to you?

00:54:05Yes.

00:54:06Rana said that to me.

00:54:07Well, I want to pivot to a related topic.

00:54:12At one point in their marriage, something happened that fractured the relationship.

00:54:16Guillermo became suspicious of Kara and a relationship she had with a local DJ.

00:54:22Take a look.

00:54:24Kara will go to the Latin night with her friends, which is this guy, DJ, until what?

00:54:33Like 3, 4 a.m. does make me feel very weird, more when they have a past.

00:54:42I hooked up with this human literally in 2011, one summer, one time.

00:54:48We've been very good friends ever since.

00:54:50He's now started the Latin event in Charlottesville and hosts every bachata night.

00:54:54Of course, I'm going to him saying, hey, can I perform at your events?

00:54:57Hey, can you help me promote my music?

00:54:59Like, true friends.

00:55:01And because after Latin night, we go back to the after party that's at his house, it's a problem.

00:55:08It's the same guy that when we got married, he was writing her and trying to take her out.

00:55:15There's no proof to what he's accusing me of.

00:55:18And that is hurtful to me.

00:55:22Okay, Kara, tell us about this DJ friend of yours.

00:55:26Javier and I became friends early, early, like 2008, 2009, dancing bachata.

00:55:33It was an underground scene at that point.

00:55:35Had sex one time.

00:55:37One time.

00:55:38I immediately was like, we're friends.

00:55:40I have no interest in you.

00:55:41Sorry it went too far.

00:55:42I'd really like to keep it friends because we've been friends already for so long.

00:55:45I was gone for a decade.

00:55:46He got married, had kids.

00:55:48We always kept in touch.

00:55:49Why would I not call upon my friend to help promote my music?

00:55:52Is this guy still married with kids?

00:55:55Yeah.

00:55:55Uh, no.

00:55:56Yes, they are still legally married.

00:56:00It's fine to work with him, but like, is it necessary to go to the after party at 4 o'clock in the morning?

00:56:06I mean, yeah, that's debatable.

00:56:08I would be uncomfortable too.

00:56:11But there was a time when we just got married that he was writing her.

00:56:16And the way he was writing, it was to invite her out.

00:56:22Kara, I get the impression that there's something you are holding back.

00:56:27What's going on?

00:56:31I'll be very honest.

00:56:32In my heart of hearts, if I went to him tomorrow and was like, hey, let's hook up, I have no doubts he would.

00:56:40Oh, my God.

00:56:41I have no doubt about it.

00:56:43Oh.

00:56:43When we come back, we're going to talk to Brandon and Julia.

00:56:52So I'm not sure what they're going to do.

00:56:53Okay.

00:56:54Okay.

00:56:55It's tough in your skater, don't you understand?

00:57:02Is everybody ready?

00:57:03Okay.

00:57:13I'll be very honest.

00:57:15If I went to him tomorrow and was like, hey, let's hook up, I have no doubts he would.

00:57:22Then I'm on your side, Guillermo.

00:57:25I'm not going to Javier.

00:57:28I don't want to touch him with a 20-foot pole.

00:57:30So, like, I know where I stand with him and it takes two to tango.

00:57:33Like, I don't give a what advances he's trying to make of me.

00:57:36Well, then I will come with my insecurities and I will be like, hey, yo, that makes me feel uncomfortable.

00:57:42Can you please talk?

00:57:43And you're wrong.

00:57:44Now you're wrong, right?

00:57:45You're wrong, yeah.

00:57:45I'm being too nice.

00:57:47As a Latino, too nice.

00:57:49No, but for a long time.

00:57:50As anyone.

00:57:51I did have a conversation with Javier and I said, look, I'm married now.

00:57:54You can't just come up and be like, oh, mommy, you know?

00:57:57My husband's uncomfortable.

00:57:59It's inappropriate.

00:57:59I had several conversations with Javier about this.

00:58:03Okay.

00:58:03So, Kara, do you think the combination of, you know, the late nights after the performance,

00:58:09the drinking, the fact that it may be at this guy's club and he's separated from his wife

00:58:16and he still likes you and would hook up with you, that's kind of a perfect storm for something

00:58:21to happen, don't you think?

00:58:25Like, all the signs are there.

00:58:26I get it.

00:58:27I understand why he's upset, but at the end of the day, I have not done anything wrong

00:58:30and I have not betrayed his trust in that way.

00:58:34I know who I am and I know what my intentions are.

00:58:37If I wanted to Javier, I would have done it a million times 10 years ago.

00:58:41Like, it was never something I've wanted and I still don't want it.

00:58:49In this scenario, it's not specifically about him.

00:58:54He's not the problem.

00:58:55My problem is with her.

00:58:58My problem is with my sitting in a table talking about the things that makes me feel uncomfortable

00:59:03and then she will be doing something else.

00:59:06Those are my problems.

00:59:09I've always wanted to sing.

00:59:10I've always been a partier.

00:59:11I've always been coqueta.

00:59:12I've always been outgoing.

00:59:14I've always been maybe a harsh-toned speaker, whatever you want to call it.

00:59:18Guillermo's shaking his head.

00:59:21I wanted you to say it.

00:59:24And him, and I feel like he was fine with that.

00:59:27He was fine with all of that until we came to America and I was with my friends and my people

00:59:34and then all of a sudden it became a problem.

00:59:41But, Cara, have you ever cheated on Guillermo?

00:59:44Never.

00:59:45I've cheated on people in my life.

00:59:46Never with Guillermo.

00:59:48Guillermo, do you believe her?

00:59:49Sure.

00:59:54Sure.

00:59:58Listen, I feel like inside of me I do have problems, but my way to come out of those problems

01:00:06is being, just let it go.

01:00:10You were the love of my life.

01:00:12Like, I fell in love with you.

01:00:14But there was a point that I felt like the person that I fell in love with, it wasn't there anymore.

01:00:22And I need to accept that.

01:00:30Cara, that really hit you hard.

01:00:33Yeah.

01:00:39I mean, she love you.

01:00:44I just saw it going so differently than what actually happened.

01:00:48I was really committed and down.

01:00:51I was, like, ride or die for him, you know?

01:00:57Okay.

01:01:00I want to shift right now to an incident when Cara's mom came to the house last fall.

01:01:08Take a look.

01:01:10Have you somebody else since we were married?

01:01:13No.

01:01:13A few days ago, my mom said she thinks that Guillermo cheated on me.

01:01:22Your stepdad and I were watching Nico, and, you know, we went to your house to wait for

01:01:27him to get off work by, like, 5 o'clock.

01:01:30So we're sitting there, you know, we go in and get comfortable, and, like, quarter after

01:01:34six rolls around, so Guillermo shows up.

01:01:37And when he shows up, he was, like, dishuffled, hair crazy.

01:01:41He darted for the bathroom.

01:01:43He definitely looked guilty.

01:01:47And his actions show me something right.

01:01:49So who thinks there may have been some behavior there that was inappropriate?

01:01:59He came back shuffled?

01:02:05Doesn't point to anything that he did wrong, in my opinion.

01:02:07Well, Ronald might put some gas in the fire.

01:02:10You don't know.

01:02:11Yeah, she stirred the puds.

01:02:11Yeah.

01:02:12There's a river that I go a lot, and when I normally paddle that river, I come smelling...

01:02:20No, I can tell you what my mom said happened.

01:02:22Right, but you were supposed to be at work.

01:02:23He came home from work, not the river.

01:02:24Yeah, exactly.

01:02:25I went to Mexico...

01:02:26But, like, when he said day, like, that's the thing.

01:02:28We can look it up, but, like, I went to Mexico to visit my pregnant friend.

01:02:31She came back to Mexico to give birth.

01:02:32My mom watched Nico while he was at work.

01:02:34He was supposed to be back at 5.

01:02:35He came home closer to, like, 6, 6.30, whatever.

01:02:37He was late.

01:02:38Then he comes in late, disheveled, runs straight to the bathroom, takes a shower immediately,

01:02:43comes back out.

01:02:44My mom was like, he's late.

01:02:46He's disheveled.

01:02:46Supposed to be at work.

01:02:48Runs to the bathroom.

01:02:49Like, suspicious.

01:02:50And, Guillermo, you don't remember this at all?

01:02:53I'm trying to find the day that I came back, like, trying to get in the shower.

01:02:57I will definitely, normally, every single time after I come from the river to clean myself

01:03:02because smell like...

01:03:03What the river?

01:03:04What are you saying, the river?

01:03:05It smells like...

01:03:05No, but you went at the river and you didn't have to clean it.

01:03:08You don't work at the river.

01:03:10And he came back in his work clothes disheveled, not his river wetsuit disheveled.

01:03:15I've never cheated.

01:03:18It's not about the cheating.

01:03:19There's so many other problems here.

01:03:20I don't know.

01:03:20It sounds to me like you're the problem.

01:03:22I don't see anything you're really saying that Guillermo's doing.

01:03:24Stop it.

01:03:25She's such a fire.

01:03:26He's such a ground.

01:03:27They cannot go together.

01:03:29I don't think he's wrong.

01:03:30Is the next step divorce?

01:03:42Everybody has their turn in the hot seat to give us the update on their lives.

01:03:46So, Brandon and Julia.

01:03:49Sure.

01:03:50We've been on our fertility journey.

01:03:53It's been like a lot.

01:03:55Is the next step divorce?

01:04:09Divorce?

01:04:09We're just separate right now.

01:04:22I would rather just keep it as it is.

01:04:25I know he can be here.

01:04:26He can see our son every day.

01:04:27Is there a part of you that wants the marriage to work?

01:04:32Yeah, of course.

01:04:33I did not want my marriage to fail.

01:04:34I didn't get married to get divorced.

01:04:35It was never my intention.

01:04:36It was never my goal.

01:04:38Now that I'm on this side of it, I don't know that that's the best solution for us.

01:04:45Guillermo, you said during couples therapy that you weren't sure if you loved Kara.

01:04:50Do you love Kara?

01:04:58Yeah.

01:04:58I mean, she's the mother of my kid.

01:05:00So you just love her as the mother of your kid, or you love her as a woman?

01:05:05He doesn't love all of me.

01:05:06You know, at least I will speak for my country or, like, for where I come from.

01:05:12But we consider that the mother of your kid, that's your woman.

01:05:17In Spanish, we say, like, esa es mi mujer.

01:05:18And I guess I don't see it like that right now because, so I, look, I don't know.

01:05:26I don't know.

01:05:27I'm lost.

01:05:28And yeah, me too.

01:05:31Sometimes I don't understand 100% what's going on inside of me because I guess I'm still going through just pain.

01:05:39Okay, let me ask our other couples, who here thinks that there is a future for Kara and Guillermo?

01:05:49I do.

01:05:51Yeah, I think so, too.

01:05:52I saw energy between them, and that energy is real.

01:05:56You can't lie about this energy and them have a feeling for each other.

01:06:01You can't throw away this.

01:06:02But I think that he needs more digging into his feelings and open up a little bit more.

01:06:08And I know that in our culture, it's very difficult for men.

01:06:13I mean, they look nice together.

01:06:15Look at them.

01:06:16Yeah.

01:06:17Well, thank you so much, Kara and Guillermo.

01:06:24I'm really sorry that you are having so many problems in your relationship now.

01:06:28But we do hope that there is a path forward for you both.

01:06:33Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts.

01:06:37Okay, everybody can take a five-minute break.

01:06:40And when we return, Brandon and Julia, we're talking to you.

01:06:45Yay.

01:06:46Great.

01:06:47We have a couple of minutes.

01:06:48Yeah.

01:06:52Sean?

01:06:53I'm blind.

01:06:54Yeah, I'm happy.

01:06:56Ah, don't do that.

01:06:59I have a woman.

01:07:01No.

01:07:01And I?

01:07:02No.

01:07:03I'm like a woman.

01:07:04No?

01:07:04No.

01:07:05No.

01:07:06No.

01:07:06I'll take his brains out.

01:07:07Okay.

01:07:10I'm not sure where they're going to do.

01:07:11Okay.

01:07:12Okay.

01:07:13Okay.

01:07:14Stop in your skater.

01:07:15I understand.

01:07:15But don't be fine.

01:07:17You'll do a quick job.

01:07:18I know.

01:07:18Okay.

01:07:19I'm fine.

01:07:20I'm fine.

01:07:21Okay.

01:07:21I'm fine.

01:07:22I'm fine.

01:07:23Okay, everybody, please sit down.

01:07:25We're going to get started here.

01:07:26Five, four, three, two.

01:07:31And now let's turn our attention to Brandon and Julia.

01:07:34There is a lot we need to unpack.

01:07:37So are you ready to get started, guys?

01:07:40Yeah.

01:07:40No.

01:07:41Yeah.

01:07:42Okay.

01:07:42Everybody has their turn in the hot seat to give us the update on their lives.

01:07:46So how are you two doing?

01:07:49Can you start?

01:08:01Sure.

01:08:02We've, um, so yeah, we've been on our fertility journey.

01:08:05I'm starting to cry because all my fertility journey has been our...

01:08:11It's been tough.

01:08:12It's been hard emotionally.

01:08:14Aw.

01:08:14It's been, like, a lot.

01:08:17And now what we are dealing with is even more...

01:08:19I'm not going to talk.

01:08:23I go...

01:08:23Hi, Mom.

01:08:35Hi, Dad.

01:08:36So when is the last time you guys saw each other?

01:08:39It's been a while.

01:08:40For some reason, we're dealing this distance.

01:08:44We are lying.

01:08:47We have reason why we disconnect.

01:08:49It's...

01:08:50It's hard to explain.

01:08:51Try!

01:09:02We are being...

01:09:04It's been tough.

01:09:08It's been hard emotionally.

01:09:10I will be safe.

01:09:12We have miscarriages.

01:09:14Oh, Julia.

01:09:15That is why we're waiting so long.

01:09:18Aw.

01:09:19But...

01:09:19I am six months pregnant right now.

01:09:25Ah!

01:09:25Oh, watch.

01:09:27Oh, my God.

01:09:29Wow.

01:09:29But I have a very high-risk pregnancy, and I never have panic attack.

01:09:37I never have paranoia, what I have right now.

01:09:39And every day, I wake up and I'm trying to, like, feel kicking.

01:09:43If I feel kicking, I feel this alive.

01:09:47Brandon's so excited to share this with people.

01:09:50He wants to say this.

01:09:51I'm like, I'm not.

01:09:52Because if you're going to share it, if you're going to be again lost.

01:09:57No.

01:09:59It's scary.

01:10:00It's been challenging to get here, you know.

01:10:02It's...

01:10:03It's...

01:10:03You've achieved something.

01:10:04It's scary to possibly lose something.

01:10:07But I've been dying to actually tell somebody to get it out, you know.

01:10:11Congratulations, you and Brandon.

01:10:15Congratulations, Julia.

01:10:16Yeah.

01:10:16Congratulations.

01:10:17Congratulations.

01:10:18I think Julia needs a hug.

01:10:19Julia!

01:10:22She made me cry.

01:10:23Oh, my God, there's Julia.

01:10:26My mother and the girl.

01:10:27Oh, God, there's Julia.

01:10:29Oh, wow.

01:10:30And, Daddy, are Julia.

01:10:32You love it.

01:10:33You and Julia.

01:10:34What's that?

01:10:35It's going to be great.

01:10:36No worries.

01:10:36It's going to be a blessing.

01:10:37It's a beautiful thing.

01:10:38Okay, thanks, bud.

01:10:46Thank you, all of you.

01:10:47We love you.

01:10:48We appreciate you sharing the news.

01:10:50Does that look like I'm sick in my life?

01:10:52No.

01:10:53Wait, did you get a boob job or is this just her pregnancy?

01:10:56Just her pregnancy.

01:10:57Oh, my God.

01:10:59That's real.

01:10:59Oh, oh, oh.

01:11:01My God.

01:11:02That is real.

01:11:03It's good, too.

01:11:04Not like that.

01:11:05Not like that, but...

01:11:06They grew for a minute.

01:11:08So, Julia, we know that you have wavered a bit

01:11:11between having kids and not having kids.

01:11:16How are you feeling about your pregnancy tonight?

01:11:19That's a very good question,

01:11:21because I'm questioning myself,

01:11:23what if I'm not going to accept it?

01:11:26What if I'm not going to like it?

01:11:27What if this kid's not going to like it?

01:11:28What if I have too much what if...

01:11:31Have you thought about

01:11:32what if everything works out perfectly?

01:11:34Yeah.

01:11:35Oof.

01:11:35Get it, Sean.

01:11:36No.

01:11:37That's never a factor.

01:11:39Think about that.

01:11:41That's never part of the what is.

01:11:43No.

01:11:43Oh.

01:11:44You're stressing out too much,

01:11:45but I think you're going to be a good mother.

01:11:47You are a good person,

01:11:48and you're going to be a good mom.

01:11:50Take a deep breath.

01:11:52Just relax.

01:11:53Enjoy it.

01:11:54In my opinion,

01:11:56what you're feeling and what you're going through,

01:11:59it's so valid.

01:12:00Yeah.

01:12:01Let me tell you,

01:12:02I don't know,

01:12:03it touches me really.

01:12:05Oh.

01:12:05I thought you can't cry,

01:12:10my friend.

01:12:10We can cry about Nico all day.

01:12:13Aw.

01:12:14I haven't been able to cry in a long time.

01:12:17It feels great.

01:12:19And you have not told your parents,

01:12:24you have not told Brandon's parents.

01:12:26No, no.

01:12:27We have arguments with his mom,

01:12:29and now I doesn't know what I feel.

01:12:32I think she will forget about all of that.

01:12:44Oh, hell yeah.

01:12:44When she knows.

01:12:45Mina just said it,

01:12:46that's gone.

01:12:47Like,

01:12:47I want to tell them to the first people

01:12:50I think we should have told,

01:12:52but I want to do what I can to support her

01:12:55and not cause her any additional stress.

01:12:58Have you thought about any boundaries?

01:13:02that you want to set with him?

01:13:04Let me tell you something.

01:13:06Last time in the house,

01:13:10we have a sex,

01:13:11and parents just come to the front door.

01:13:15Brandon have to rush to the door

01:13:17and smack the door.

01:13:18Oh my God.

01:13:20Your mom does the two.

01:13:23So that is boundary

01:13:25what we are going to.

01:13:27Brandon?

01:13:29I really don't know what to expect.

01:13:30Can I ask everybody

01:13:32who thinking Betty will be trying

01:13:33to move on to our house

01:13:35when she knows this?

01:13:42You are going back from the teller

01:13:44and she's already going to be there.

01:13:46I think you will want that

01:13:48because you will want some sleep.

01:13:50Take the help.

01:13:51Trust me.

01:13:52Julia, you know that Brandon's parents

01:13:56will be joining us in a few minutes.

01:13:58Them doesn't know anything.

01:14:01We have to lie to them.

01:14:03We have to tell them a lot of lies.

01:14:07You need the support, honestly,

01:14:10to calm you down.

01:14:12So that's why I think you should tell them.

01:14:15It could be amazing for you

01:14:17to just have that support around you.

01:14:19I'm also in Virginia, by the way.

01:14:20I will happily do whatever you need.

01:14:22I can be to your house

01:14:23in like two and a half hours.

01:14:24Yeah, rely on sisterhood in here, Julia.

01:14:26You're not alone.

01:14:27It's going to be stressful.

01:14:28We're not going to lie.

01:14:29You know, when a baby is born,

01:14:31it's going to be some nice.

01:14:32But you have a lot of help around you.

01:14:35I'm not going to tell his parents.

01:14:37No, I still don't tell my parents either.

01:14:39How often do you talk to your parents?

01:14:41How do you talk to them?

01:14:42Yeah, to your mother.

01:14:43All the time.

01:14:44Every day?

01:14:45Yes.

01:14:45Call them now.

01:14:47Yeah, let's call them.

01:14:48I mean, I would say we go for it.

01:14:55No?

01:14:56Mm-hmm.

01:14:58You want to call your parents?

01:15:01Do you want to tell them?

01:15:03No.

01:15:18Do you want to call your parents, Julia?

01:15:23I mean, I would say we go for it.

01:15:25No?

01:15:26Mm-hmm.

01:15:30Can I have my phone?

01:15:32Oh, my God.

01:15:35You're getting everybody excited, Julia?

01:15:36Yeah.

01:15:37It's like Christmas.

01:15:39Oh, my God.

01:15:39I'm going to cry.

01:15:41Are we really going to do it?

01:15:44It's 11.30 there.

01:15:46Are they asleep?

01:15:47Wake them up.

01:15:48Wake them up.

01:15:49Don't do it at the same time.

01:15:54Can I not?

01:15:55Oh, I can breathe now.

01:15:59Good.

01:16:00Good, yeah.

01:16:00Yeah.

01:16:01She's going to have a weight lifted off of her shoulder.

01:16:02She already has it, because we know already.

01:16:04This is exciting.

01:16:08Can you dab me up?

01:16:09I don't know.

01:16:10I'm getting excited.

01:16:11I'm kind of shaking here.

01:16:12We need more tissues.

01:16:14I mean, them probably are sleeping,

01:16:16and then probably doesn't really understand

01:16:18what freaking is going on.

01:16:20OK, here we go, Julia.

01:16:22OK, quiet.

01:16:22All right, let's go.

01:16:25Be quiet, you guys.

01:16:27I don't know how to say congratulations in Rocha.

01:16:29Pazdravlayo.

01:16:30Pazdravlayo.

01:16:31Pazdravlayo.

01:16:32You can probably see, like, what the hell mommy did.

01:16:36We got one.

01:16:37Pazdravlayo.

01:16:38Pazdravlayo.

01:16:38Oh, we got two.

01:16:40Uh-oh.

01:16:40Pazdravlayo.

01:16:41Hi.

01:16:42We called you to give a hug to all of you.

01:16:45Hi.

01:16:47Hi.

01:16:50How are you?

01:16:51Can you hold the phone?

01:16:53Yeah.

01:16:53Can you just say?

01:16:55Pazdravlayo.

01:16:56All right, let's go.

01:16:57OK.

01:16:58One, two, three.

01:17:00Pazdravlayo.

01:17:02What's that?

01:17:04You, you, you, you're going to be a grandma and a grandpa.

01:17:09Are you serious?

01:17:12Can you hold me?

01:17:17I don't believe.

01:17:20I don't believe.

01:17:21They don't believe me.

01:17:22One second.

01:17:23Let me, oh, wow.

01:17:25Let me just show like this.

01:17:28Like this.

01:17:29Beautiful.

01:17:29I don't believe.

01:17:30I don't believe.

01:17:31I don't believe.

01:17:32No, no.

01:17:34It's not.

01:17:35It's not.

01:17:36It's not.

01:17:37It's not.

01:17:38Why did they say just eat a lot?

01:17:41I've been waiting for this.

01:17:44I don't believe.

01:17:46I'm very happy.

01:17:50Yulia, what month?

01:17:53They ask how many months.

01:17:55Oh, boy.

01:17:57I understood that and I don't speak Russian.

01:18:12Oh, well, I won't sleep now.

01:18:16What are you doing there?

01:18:18No, sir, I'll send you a picture.

01:18:22This is beautiful. We're so happy for you.

01:18:29Where's the second pair of parents?

01:18:31Mom, Dad, Mom, Mom,

01:18:34Bette and Ron don't know.

01:18:37What are you?

01:18:39Well, of course, I won't say anything to anyone.

01:18:42All right, I'll kiss you.

01:18:44Bye-bye.

01:18:46I love you.

01:18:47Bye-bye.

01:18:48Bye-bye.

01:18:50Bye-bye.

01:18:52Okay.

01:18:54That was fun for all of us to be a part of.

01:18:59So two down and just two to go.

01:19:02Yeah.

01:19:03Are you ready for us to bring Ron and Betty into the conversation?

01:19:07Let's show. I will see. I will see.

01:19:11Let's follow the emotional. I follow emotional with my parents.

01:19:14Let's follow emotional how I feel, how it's...

01:19:16Yeah, let your heart be your guide.

01:19:17You're doing great.

01:19:18You're doing great.

01:19:19Yeah.

01:19:20All right.

01:19:22Here we go.

01:19:25Let's bring on Ron and Betty.

01:19:29Ron and Betty, this is Sean. How are you guys?

01:19:33Hi, Sean. Hi, Brennan, Julia. Hi, rest of the gang.

01:19:36Hi, Mom. Hi, Dad.

01:19:38So when is the last time you guys saw each other?

01:19:42It's been a while.

01:19:43It's been a while.

01:19:45I didn't get to see her for my birthday.

01:19:47I didn't get to see her for Father's Day.

01:19:49I do feel like there's been a distance, like, between us as of late, you know?

01:19:55And I really...

01:19:56It is something I would like to fix.

01:19:59Well, knowing the relationship that Ron and I have had with Brandon growing up and over the years,

01:20:05we actually felt we had that with Julia.

01:20:08We love her, and she's family.

01:20:10But for some reason, we're feeling this distance, and I don't want to make things worse.

01:20:19I feel we have...we start having, like, a lot of disconnection with each other.

01:20:24But I want to fix this. I want to fix our situation.

01:20:28I want to...are connecting back.

01:20:31Did I want biologists?

01:20:32Yes.

01:20:33Did I want to back to connecting with parents?

01:20:35Yes.

01:20:36That's all we've ever wanted.

01:20:39And heaven forbid, there's grandkids one day that come into a situation.

01:20:44It's like, they're our grandkids.

01:20:47It's like, it's part of our blood.

01:20:50It's like, it's us.

01:20:51We want to be part of that.

01:20:53And to push us away or to alienate us, that would just totally break our hearts.

01:20:57And even the fact that there aren't any grandkids.

01:21:00Brandon is my son.

01:21:01Julia, as far as I'm concerned, my daughter.

01:21:02But you have to make this first gesture to reach out, because we've tried, and we feel like every time we've tried, you've shut a door on us.

01:21:19I just want to say it's, we have reason why we disconnect.

01:21:28It's what we are being through.

01:21:31It's hard to explain.

01:21:32But I always, most close in person.

01:21:36Like, I most of hide everything inside me.

01:21:40Brian Morris, like, he can share something.

01:21:43But I feel like I can't.

01:21:47Try.

01:21:50You got to share it with us, Julia.

01:21:52Julia.

01:21:57We are lying.

01:21:59We doesn't tell.

01:22:02What?

01:22:03Next time on 90 Day Fiancé, happily ever after, tell all no limits.

01:22:20I can't wait for Georgie and Darcy.

01:22:22I think he's outside in the streets of Miami acting up.

01:22:25He's in the streets.

01:22:26I think he's hitting the streets and not telling Darcy is what I think.

01:22:30Does anybody think that Georgie might have one foot out the door?

01:22:35It crossed my mind.

01:22:36Really?

01:22:37He does flirt and dirt when he goes out.

01:22:38I've seen it.

01:22:39He does it point blank.

01:22:40It's not like he's hiding it.

01:22:41So I have suspicions.

01:22:42I talk with beautiful woman.

01:22:44Oh, she's jealous, obviously.

01:22:45I'm not jealous.

01:22:46I'm just like, I'm flirting.

01:22:47No, it's just networking.

01:22:48I just talk with people.

01:22:49Oh, my God.

01:22:50With your arm around another chick?

01:22:52With her mouth in her ear?

01:22:54Hello?

01:22:55What are you doing?

01:22:56You're married.

01:22:57His mom told me, if you cannot be his wife, like, I have this good Romanian woman, like,

01:23:03I want married.

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