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00:00:00There's a tell-all, no limits.
00:00:02Javi's in the pool throwing balls like a dog.
00:00:04He's probably drunk already.
00:00:06What's going on with Lauren and Elizabeth?
00:00:09I'm good with Lauren, but with Elizabeth and Andrew, no,
00:00:12because they blame us for everything.
00:00:14What Gino still doesn't get is that I am not the same person.
00:00:19I'm not the broken Jasmine who couldn't regulate her emotions.
00:00:24My man's worth, asshole!
00:00:28You're wrong!
00:00:29No, Sarah!
00:00:31Oh, my God, who has this annexed?
00:00:32Dear God.
00:00:37Look at my boobs.
00:00:38People are saying I did plastic surgery.
00:00:42But I am a pregnant.
00:00:43I'm six months right now.
00:00:45In the house, nobody knows me.
00:00:47I'm afraid to say.
00:00:50How are you doing?
00:00:51Stop.
00:00:52You touched my arm like that.
00:00:53Why not?
00:00:54We are not fighting enough for the relationship.
00:00:58You speak for yourself.
00:01:01Let's talk about the text messages.
00:01:03Andre, what exactly did you find out from reading these logs?
00:01:07Plenty of material, Sean.
00:01:09She says, Alex compares me to other women.
00:01:12He goes around the bar.
00:01:13He doesn't want to come home.
00:01:14What the is wrong with you?
00:01:16Why you diss everybody around you?
00:01:17You're putting your panties in a bunch of
00:01:19shoved up your ass.
00:01:20Hey, let's go outside.
00:01:21Let's fight.
00:01:22I don't give a .
00:01:23Andre, let's go.
00:01:28Come on.
00:01:38Let's fight.
00:01:38I don't give a .
00:01:40Andre, come down.
00:01:42Why are you running your mouth?
00:01:44You crazy?
00:01:45Yara, do you want to weigh in on this?
00:01:48Everything is like a big mess.
00:01:52You don't react.
00:01:54What can we tell about that?
00:01:55How can we just get a word in between them?
00:01:56Well, you sit there and stir the pot,
00:01:57and then you sit back quiet.
00:01:58Why didn't we stir the pot?
00:01:59Like, say something about it.
00:02:01You were there.
00:02:06So, Yara and Jovi, who do you think takes the blame for the
00:02:11conflict between these two?
00:02:12So, listen, I think it's a lot of wrong on everyone's part, right?
00:02:16I mean, y'all went behind her back and exposed information.
00:02:19Yeah.
00:02:20Y'all.
00:02:20Which is a little unfair.
00:02:21Y'all?
00:02:22No, y'all.
00:02:22You sure about the y'all part?
00:02:24Andre, let's say that.
00:02:27Andrew, that was no right what you did to her.
00:02:29What'd you tell about Alex, about body shame,
00:02:31when you did him dirty?
00:02:32That was not right.
00:02:35Elizabeth, why do you think that Yara and Jovi are
00:02:39stirring the pot in this situation?
00:02:43When I saw them at Lake Placid, how they're, like,
00:02:45playing a double game here, then I'm like, hold on a minute.
00:02:48What's going on here?
00:02:48Which double game?
00:02:49Ari, you put me in the middle when you say that.
00:02:51I say that.
00:02:52She said, here's a horrible person.
00:02:54I never said that.
00:02:55You lie about that.
00:02:56I never said that.
00:02:57I did not lie about that.
00:02:59Maybe it was Jovi that said it.
00:03:00That was said.
00:03:01Do you think I made that out of these ?
00:03:03Who called me a horrible person?
00:03:05I don't know if that was said or when it was said.
00:03:07I never said that.
00:03:08Nobody.
00:03:09Nobody.
00:03:10But why did you apologize to it?
00:03:11That's what I don't understand.
00:03:12Exactly, I apologize.
00:03:13I'm a victim.
00:03:13I apologize.
00:03:14You can't recall if you called your best friend a horrible man.
00:03:18All I'm doing is apologizing, apologizing, apologizing.
00:03:21I'm sorry I called you a dick.
00:03:22I'm sorry your butt hurt over it.
00:03:23OK, your butt hurt .
00:03:25Like, you apologize to Lake Placid.
00:03:26But that's not a real apology.
00:03:27I kept apologizing for 20 times.
00:03:31Like, how many more times can I apologize?
00:03:35Oh, my gosh.
00:03:37God, benzona.
00:03:40Wow.
00:03:41You and I are connected on, like, oh, we're not fake.
00:03:45We don't like plastic surgery.
00:03:46We don't like Botox.
00:03:48We don't like fillers.
00:03:49We don't agree with that stuff, right?
00:03:51We're like, most Florida women like that stuff.
00:03:53We're not like those girls.
00:03:54Yes.
00:03:55Right?
00:03:55It's true.
00:03:56But I know.
00:03:56And then you're like, I'm getting a tummy tuck.
00:03:58Yeah.
00:03:59And I'm going to get this liposuction, this, that, that.
00:04:01I was confused.
00:04:02I've never wanted that stuff.
00:04:04But after I had my three kids, I did need the tummy tuck
00:04:07because I had the abdominal diastasis, which I openly shared
00:04:11with the world.
00:04:13My stomach was not reattaching.
00:04:14So you connected on the wrong thing, right?
00:04:16No, we connected on the fact that we bitched about our husbands
00:04:20to each other.
00:04:21Fact.
00:04:21We bitched about getting hate on social media to each other.
00:04:24Fact.
00:04:25Also that our husbands can be similar with their Eastern European descent.
00:04:30No, not similar.
00:04:31No, me neither.
00:04:32I think just the alpha male.
00:04:33We would send each other, for instance, funny pictures of being,
00:04:38what are you doing today?
00:04:38Nothing.
00:04:39They think a housewife is sitting around doing nothing.
00:04:41So we would always laugh and be like, oh, we're doing nothing.
00:04:43What are you doing nothing?
00:04:44On my way to get the kids, on my way to do the laundry.
00:04:48I think that that is so therapeutic to have a friend
00:04:50to bitch about your husband.
00:04:51It is therapeutic.
00:04:53I do it with Julia all the time.
00:04:56And you better never log in into our text, Brandon.
00:05:01You don't want to see it.
00:05:04What about squashing it out?
00:05:06What?
00:05:07What's, like, when we went into Lake Placid,
00:05:09supposedly you are sorry for your behavior of your, like, how it went down.
00:05:13What happened to this, like, sorry?
00:05:15Like, what happened to it?
00:05:16You just, like, said sorry, just throw it around.
00:05:19We made amends.
00:05:20We talked it out, whatever.
00:05:21And then Jovi comes up to me at the very end of the night,
00:05:24because apparently you, before we went out, told them that I was making fun of Yara
00:05:30and talking about her clothes and this and that.
00:05:32So I literally just found out right then and there, which is why I stormed off,
00:05:36because I was so done.
00:05:40Elizabeth, you told Yara that Lauren made fun of her clothes.
00:05:46Is that right?
00:05:47Made fun of her clothes?
00:05:48Yes.
00:05:48No, I don't think I used those words.
00:05:49You never said that.
00:05:50No.
00:05:52I said that she discusses her clothes.
00:05:54I never said she made fun of her.
00:05:58I said, just beware.
00:05:59You're getting close to her.
00:06:02We actually have that clip.
00:06:04Let's watch.
00:06:07Yeah.
00:06:07I don't know.
00:06:08Like, I wasn't going to say anything.
00:06:10But she was just saying, you're just, Miami got to your head.
00:06:15And just nasty comments about you and, like, things that you wear.
00:06:18Oh, nice.
00:06:19Oh, that's lovely.
00:06:20Just tread lightly.
00:06:21Be cautious.
00:06:22That's all I'm saying.
00:06:23I just don't want you to get hurt in the long run.
00:06:28How she did?
00:06:29Straightforward.
00:06:29Bitches are fake.
00:06:36So, Elizabeth, you stand by those comments?
00:06:38Absolutely.
00:06:39Okay.
00:06:40Because she did say those things.
00:06:42Though, again, sharing personal conversations, but you don't talk about me.
00:06:46Is that not girl code?
00:06:48Should I not warn another girl that another girl's talking about her?
00:06:51Should I not warn her about that?
00:06:54I forget about it.
00:06:54It's nice.
00:06:55As a new person in Miami looking to make genuine friends.
00:06:58It's nice.
00:06:59Well, you don't live in Miami.
00:07:00Thank God.
00:07:00So.
00:07:04Lauren, I think this in the wrong way, but you tell this to many people,
00:07:07that Miami is get to my head.
00:07:10You tell this to many people.
00:07:10I don't think I say it like that, but I think you fit very well in Miami.
00:07:15Like, I cannot see you in Louisiana. I have said this before to her.
00:07:21She probably, she said whatever she said, and it is what it is.
00:07:28Elizabeth, you stand by telling Yara to watch out for Lauren?
00:07:34Of course.
00:07:37Especially now, how she treated this whole situation.
00:07:40I don't trust you. What did I do? She couldn't explain.
00:07:44I told her I had nothing to do with it.
00:07:45Time and time again, she says it's not true, but still mad at me.
00:07:48Still doesn't trust me.
00:07:50So what did I do here? I don't understand.
00:07:51So that is a person that you cannot trust.
00:07:53And so I removed myself.
00:07:55But you think that Yara should not trust Lauren?
00:07:58Of course not.
00:07:58I didn't say trust. I didn't use that word.
00:08:00You just said it.
00:08:01You just said it.
00:08:04Makes sense.
00:08:05You are so twisted on all your lies and all your conspiracies and thoughts.
00:08:09You hurt us.
00:08:11We came here as your friend.
00:08:13We were fine.
00:08:14And we had conversations thinking we had an understanding of what was going on.
00:08:18So there's no feelings hurt.
00:08:20Yeah, so there's no feelings hurt because nobody's on the same page besides them.
00:08:26Wait, one more thing.
00:08:27I was told that apparently Elizabeth and Andre told Yara and Jovi that they had to choose
00:08:32between us or Yara and Jovi.
00:08:34I think I said it or I don't know.
00:08:38You said it.
00:08:38Yeah.
00:08:39When I said, hey, listen, you have to choose because you're playing a double game.
00:08:42Put your money where your mouth is.
00:08:43Yeah, yeah.
00:08:44So what is your friend?
00:08:45Your friend or your friend?
00:08:47Because you're like, it seems like there's a lot of fakeness going on.
00:08:49So I was like, okay, let's figure it out.
00:08:51I don't think that it's fair to put you in a position.
00:08:54Choose.
00:08:54Like, are we in high school?
00:08:57Okay.
00:08:57Well, let me just ask very quickly.
00:08:59Yara.
00:09:00Yeah.
00:09:01Are you friends with Lauren?
00:09:04Yeah.
00:09:05Are you friends with Elizabeth?
00:09:08I mean, I don't know.
00:09:10I'm not sure.
00:09:11Okay, it's clear that feelings are hurt and emotions are high.
00:09:17So we're going to pause this conversation for right now and let everybody cool down.
00:09:21We will touch base later and we will be joined by Lauren's friend, Noga.
00:09:27Oh, my God.
00:09:28Bring her on.
00:09:29We are going to call it a day for right now.
00:09:32Have a great night, everybody.
00:09:33Oh.
00:09:41I'm so embarrassed.
00:09:45I'm so upset that I yelled.
00:09:47Yeah, we should keep our composure.
00:09:49But they really think they did nothing wrong.
00:09:52That's really up.
00:09:55Is the bartender going to be there tonight?
00:09:57Yeah, have me a drink ready.
00:09:58Took him to make 10 margaritas.
00:10:00It seems like, you know, like, between me and Jovi, even though, you know, like, was frozen
00:10:05battles, I think we pretty much were squared up.
00:10:08You had a conversation with Jovi.
00:10:09We didn't have a conversation.
00:10:11You guys should do the same thing, I think.
00:10:12I think.
00:10:13With who?
00:10:14You and Yara.
00:10:15Yeah, yeah.
00:10:15We stopped acting like teenagers.
00:10:17I mean, come on.
00:10:18All right, everybody, please get changed and then you can head to the house.
00:10:23I don't like drama.
00:10:24Yeah, this is like a lot more to do with Lauren and Alex and Elizabeth and Andre.
00:10:28We're in the middle.
00:10:28I'm just trying to be friends with both of them.
00:10:30That's it.
00:10:31We'll see you at the house.
00:10:32See you at the house.
00:10:34This house is going to get crazy.
00:10:37I'm going to the house.
00:10:39I think it's going to be okay because today all the bad stuff happened.
00:10:43So now I feel pretty confident that it's going to be less Gino and Jasmine drama.
00:10:47I'm hoping.
00:10:48Today was the longest day.
00:10:51I have a lot of relief that I'm done.
00:10:53Jasmine is good to get in everybody's heads.
00:10:55Exactly.
00:10:56Hello.
00:10:57She's so good at that.
00:10:58Now I feel bad for Matt.
00:10:59Well, listen, he proposed whatever would have straightened or whatever that was,
00:11:03but she should have said yes or just move on.
00:11:05You know, co-parent and that's it.
00:11:06Gina, how do you feel about Natalie?
00:11:09She's pretty.
00:11:11Well, thank you.
00:11:12She has a good heart.
00:11:13You're happy with her.
00:11:15You're giggling, farting.
00:11:16Well, let me tell you something.
00:11:18She treats me very good and she doesn't fight with me.
00:11:22That's nice.
00:11:23You fresh start.
00:11:25Yes.
00:11:33Oh, .
00:11:34Oh, God.
00:11:35Tony, I'm home.
00:11:36All righty.
00:11:40Come on, let's go ahead and hear you.
00:11:44Are you saying prayer before you?
00:11:45Oh, okay.
00:11:46Let's do a little prayer.
00:11:46You want to say prayer?
00:11:48You want to start?
00:11:51Let's do it.
00:11:52Let's do it.
00:11:53Thank you, God, for the day today.
00:11:57And Gino's...
00:11:59What are you grateful for today?
00:12:00Say, what are you grateful?
00:12:02Well, I'm grateful that I got through today.
00:12:06And I feel like I can move forward again in my life.
00:12:12Thank you, Lord, for protecting us and giving us grace
00:12:15to continue on these journeys that we live.
00:12:18Amen.
00:12:18Amen.
00:12:19Amen.
00:12:21We just had a good prayer.
00:12:22That's a good prayer.
00:12:23I like that.
00:12:23I like that.
00:12:25I like that.
00:12:25And what we're grateful for.
00:12:29You want a knife?
00:12:30So what are you guys feeling?
00:12:33How was this today?
00:12:34I was shocked, you know, all the commotion.
00:12:37And I didn't expect that between Lauren, Alexa, and you two
00:12:40after a five-year friendship.
00:12:42I didn't expect it either, honestly.
00:12:44Well, you didn't.
00:12:45Yeah, you didn't.
00:12:46Nope.
00:12:46Andre, were you being a dick?
00:12:48Probably.
00:12:53I know.
00:12:57Be careful.
00:12:57Where's the kitchen, honey?
00:13:00He's starving.
00:13:01What in the hell has gone on here?
00:13:04Let me guess.
00:13:05Georgie's losing.
00:13:06Wow.
00:13:07Now we are talking.
00:13:09Hey.
00:13:11I'm here.
00:13:13OK.
00:13:14Let's go.
00:13:14Let's go.
00:13:15Oh.
00:13:16Hey.
00:13:16Yeah, Gino.
00:13:17Almost.
00:13:18Let's go get some shots, dude.
00:13:19These people don't know how to play.
00:13:20Yeah, right.
00:13:20I don't know.
00:13:23We spent enough time with people today, so we need to decompress.
00:13:27Look, we got through today.
00:13:30It was very heated.
00:13:31I'm very tired.
00:13:31I don't think we got through.
00:13:33I don't want to spend more energy on them.
00:13:35Like, enough.
00:13:37Too much back and forth and screaming.
00:13:38This is Vitello, so yeah.
00:13:41Let's order a couple drinks.
00:13:42I'm going to make Andre and Alex friends.
00:13:44Elizabeth, do you want to come?
00:13:45What do you want to say?
00:13:46I'm good.
00:13:47All right.
00:13:51All right, so I brought you guys a drink and a friend.
00:13:54What friend?
00:13:56They're not friends.
00:13:58Oh, wow.
00:13:59So I guess that's our cue to leave.
00:14:01All right, I want to ask a favor from all of y'all,
00:14:03because we're going to get into this some more.
00:14:06Let's try to talk normal, because, like,
00:14:08I had a lot of stuff I wanted to say today.
00:14:10And because of you in particular, mostly you, also you,
00:14:14I couldn't get a word in.
00:14:14I couldn't say my opinion.
00:14:16I couldn't really speak for myself.
00:14:17And let's keep it a little more civilized.
00:14:20I think it got way too aggressive, way too quick.
00:14:22I yelled, and I hate that I yelled.
00:14:25I'm not going to apologize for yelling,
00:14:26but I hate that I yelled.
00:14:28No more apologizing.
00:14:29I think we should reconcile the things
00:14:32before we hear from that lady, from your friend,
00:14:35because we said that in Lake West.
00:14:37OK, lady, whatever, lady.
00:14:38No, that's nice, OK?
00:14:40It's nice.
00:14:40Lady's nice, because she's a lady, I think.
00:14:43But, you know, like, I'm just saying, you know, like .
00:14:46There are some things I want to ask her.
00:14:47If she does come, you have to let her get a word in.
00:14:50I will.
00:14:51OK, I will.
00:14:55Andre, I have to tell you wholeheartedly,
00:14:58I never said you were a horrible person.
00:15:01I think that was a lot of he said, she said.
00:15:03There's a big difference between a horrible person and calling
00:15:06somebody a dick.
00:15:07OK.
00:15:07Your characteristic is a dick.
00:15:11Yeah.
00:15:12OK.
00:15:12I have a question.
00:15:14Who mentioned body shaming?
00:15:16Because on that clip.
00:15:16Who mentioned it first, Andre?
00:15:18It comes from the text messages that I read.
00:15:22But who said it?
00:15:23But who said it?
00:15:23Who revealed this?
00:15:25You're dodging the question.
00:15:31Did you say it, or did Elizabeth say it first?
00:15:33I'm more mad at Elizabeth at this point,
00:15:36because she did it, and she won't own it.
00:15:40In the clip that we saw today, Elizabeth said,
00:15:44you body shame your wife.
00:15:45Are we talking about this again?
00:15:48I dare you, Darcy, to let Cara lick one of your naples.
00:16:05Oh!
00:16:05Whoa!
00:16:06I need to see that!
00:16:09Here, just like, here, yeah.
00:16:11Ah!
00:16:12Ah!
00:16:13Ah!
00:16:14Ah!
00:16:15Ah!
00:16:16She was going to sing, then she keeps going into a potty,
00:16:19drinking, and then to another potty,
00:16:22and then to someone else's house until, like, 4 AM.
00:16:25She's just having fun.
00:16:27She didn't achieve, you know?
00:16:28She just had fun.
00:16:30Um...
00:16:39Are we talking about this again?
00:16:42What is wrong with you?
00:16:44I'm trying to figure out who said something.
00:16:46Like, isn't everybody tired, Scoot?
00:16:49Oh, my God.
00:16:50I can't.
00:16:50I can't do this again.
00:16:51But my question, my question...
00:16:53You're asking the question too many times.
00:16:55Now you want to clarify it, but I didn't clarify it at the moment.
00:16:59Why did you leave?
00:16:59You should have clarified it.
00:17:00Babe, just don't try.
00:17:01It's annoying.
00:17:02You know, like, every time when it was getting deep, you leave.
00:17:05I don't have energy for this.
00:17:06We were thinking that you controlling all of her,
00:17:08because you're always taking her away from the situation.
00:17:10This was a situation that I got dragged into
00:17:13that just escalated and escalated and escalated.
00:17:15So, yes, we did remove ourselves before it got so much worse.
00:17:19So, what are we going to do?
00:17:21You guys are kind of with each other forever.
00:17:23I don't give a flying .
00:17:25Babe, I'm...
00:17:25Well, I'm done told.
00:17:27Let's go get a drink, because I'm done told.
00:17:29Like, it's just...
00:17:30Oh, no, are you taking her away from the situation?
00:17:33The irony.
00:17:34Yara, I'm sitting here, and look who left.
00:17:42Yeah.
00:17:42And that's okay?
00:17:44He literally said, you got up and left.
00:17:47Yeah, so I was thinking...
00:17:48And they just...
00:17:49He just left.
00:17:50Like, what a hypocrite.
00:17:52Yeah.
00:17:52Damn it.
00:17:53I don't know.
00:17:54It was her, like, last real friend.
00:17:58They push everybody away.
00:18:00Every friend, every family they have, everybody.
00:18:03They just push everybody away.
00:18:09Oh, baby!
00:18:10Oh, you know, another point for you.
00:18:12All right.
00:18:13Catching her up.
00:18:16Oh.
00:18:21Welcome to my humble giant room.
00:18:24Wow.
00:18:26Make yourself at home.
00:18:27Very nice.
00:18:28All right.
00:18:29What a game.
00:18:30What do you want to play?
00:18:31Truth or dare?
00:18:33Oh, you're asking me?
00:18:36Mm-hmm.
00:18:36Um, let's do a dare.
00:18:38I dare you to do a backflip in the floor.
00:18:42Do you know how to do a backflip?
00:18:44Backflip?
00:18:45You know, you do it in the floor.
00:18:46Those are cheerleaders.
00:18:48You mean roll backwards?
00:18:49Oh, a roll, a roll.
00:18:51Oh, a roll.
00:18:52I was thinking you wanted, like, a back handspring.
00:18:54I was like, what the , no.
00:18:55You're right.
00:18:56OK.
00:18:57Um.
00:19:06Wait, I don't like that it didn't happen.
00:19:07How do I get over it?
00:19:08I don't know.
00:19:09Wait, how does one do that?
00:19:11I don't know.
00:19:12OK.
00:19:13Yeah, that works.
00:19:16All right, Kara, your turn.
00:19:17What are you calling out?
00:19:18Brandon.
00:19:20Truth or dare?
00:19:20What up?
00:19:21Yes, you.
00:19:23Truth?
00:19:24Boring.
00:19:25Boring.
00:19:26I dare.
00:19:26Oh, yeah.
00:19:27All right, um, I dare you to lick that door handle.
00:19:30I have to lick a door handle?
00:19:32Oh!
00:19:32Seriously?
00:19:32You're nasty.
00:19:34Lick it like a lollipop.
00:19:38You know what I'm saying?
00:19:38Ugh.
00:19:40Have you opened this door?
00:19:41I do.
00:19:42I want, I want, like, a.
00:19:43Lick it, lick it, lick it, lick it, lick it, lick it.
00:19:54How dare you?
00:19:55Ew.
00:19:56You're nasty.
00:19:59All right, man.
00:19:59No.
00:20:00Son of a bitch.
00:20:02You got it.
00:20:03You got it.
00:20:04All right, dare.
00:20:05Dare?
00:20:06I dare you.
00:20:08Suck a toe.
00:20:09A toe?
00:20:10Suck a toe.
00:20:11Because I have a foot fetish, and he.
00:20:14We've seen it, yeah.
00:20:15Exactly.
00:20:15He finds.
00:20:16Can he at least wash the foot?
00:20:17He finds that disgusting.
00:20:19No, I'm not washing.
00:20:20If you love me.
00:20:21What the hell are you talking about?
00:20:23No, girl, you'd be walking on the floor and stuff.
00:20:25Suck a toe.
00:20:26Suck it.
00:20:26Suck it.
00:20:27And the big one.
00:20:29No.
00:20:29Yeah.
00:20:30No, he didn't say the big one.
00:20:32I just hit a toe.
00:20:33OK, whatever.
00:20:34Did you walk on the bare foot or something?
00:20:35I didn't.
00:20:36You're such a liar.
00:20:39Papi, suck it!
00:20:40Bruh.
00:20:41You got it.
00:20:43Oh, oh, wow.
00:20:44Pointer toe?
00:20:45Suck it.
00:20:46Oh, my God.
00:20:47Keep going for this.
00:20:48Oh!
00:20:52I got to wash my mouth.
00:20:56If he only knew where this toe had to be.
00:20:59That was a sweaty-ass toe.
00:21:10It was salty, you son of a bitch.
00:21:12I went to the bathroom barefoot and all that.
00:21:16Oh, good.
00:21:17To the bathroom.
00:21:18Now I have to kiss my toe with this.
00:21:20Yeah, I hope you're happy.
00:21:21Oh, my God.
00:21:22Listen.
00:21:23I just, like, imagine you sucking.
00:21:28Respectfully saying, Gino's feet?
00:21:30It was the only thing he would let me suck.
00:21:33Really?
00:21:34I swear to God.
00:21:35He?
00:21:36Typical Gino trying to save money on a pedicure.
00:21:38You got a game?
00:21:46I have a funny idea.
00:21:48You got that paper with you?
00:21:49Paper?
00:21:49Your phone records.
00:21:51Let's call that number.
00:21:51See if Matt answers the phone.
00:21:53She's lying to us.
00:21:56I'll call it.
00:21:59Let me see her number.
00:22:02Hold on a second.
00:22:04Here, look.
00:22:06That's his number.
00:22:08Oh, it's ringing.
00:22:14Is it?
00:22:16Yep.
00:22:20He might not have changed the number.
00:22:27Oh, what are you guys doing in here?
00:22:29Guys, go, go, go.
00:22:31You having a little sleepover?
00:22:32We're playing truth or dare.
00:22:33Truth or dare?
00:22:34Yeah.
00:22:34OK.
00:22:35All right.
00:22:36A little truth or dare never hurt anybody.
00:22:38But we've done some scandalous things before your arrival.
00:22:41Yeah.
00:22:42OK, baby.
00:22:43This is your turn.
00:22:44Oh, me?
00:22:45I'll do truth.
00:22:46Do you still have feelings for Guillermo?
00:22:48Oh, my God.
00:22:50Truth.
00:22:50The whole truth.
00:22:51I will always love Guillermo.
00:23:00I will always love Guillermo.
00:23:01We share a child.
00:23:04Wow.
00:23:05Hmm.
00:23:05She created a song in the main course of the song.
00:23:11It's like, try, and we need to just try.
00:23:14Yeah.
00:23:14Yeah, sure.
00:23:14Yeah, it was about trying.
00:23:15Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:23:16Yeah.
00:23:17Yeah.
00:23:18I don't feel like we really tried.
00:23:20I tried.
00:23:22That's what I'm saying.
00:23:23It's what you don't get here.
00:23:24No, no, no, no, no.
00:23:24You just shut down.
00:23:26You didn't communicate.
00:23:26Well, I was trying.
00:23:29Because our marriage was getting up.
00:23:33Mm-hmm.
00:23:36I think that you should have chosen there.
00:23:42I'm sorry.
00:23:43Hold on, hold on, hold on.
00:23:46Somebody says, who is this?
00:23:47They say to me back.
00:23:49Oh, he replied.
00:23:51I asked him if it's Matthew.
00:23:54Yeah.
00:23:54This is Matthew, like this?
00:23:56Yes.
00:23:56He's not going to say yes.
00:23:58No, he's going to be like, what the you want?
00:23:59Yeah.
00:24:00You started for me.
00:24:04OK.
00:24:05Jasmine.
00:24:06Uh-huh.
00:24:07Truth or dare?
00:24:08OK.
00:24:10Truth.
00:24:12Do you love Matt the same as you love Gina?
00:24:21Hmm.
00:24:23I think that, I don't know.
00:24:27I think that, with Gino, I didn't love him in a healthy way.
00:24:33But I was so obsessed with him.
00:24:35Like, I love him, you know, in a very passionate way.
00:24:39No, she doesn't love me as much as him.
00:24:40Right?
00:24:41I was like, I think it was a yes or no.
00:24:43I want, I don't want to be that person again.
00:24:45But I do love him.
00:24:48I like his companion.
00:24:49Sex is the freaking best.
00:24:54Well, you definitely have chemistry.
00:24:57Hello.
00:24:58Oh, hi.
00:24:58Welcome.
00:24:59My baby.
00:24:59Yeah.
00:25:00My new people.
00:25:01Yeah.
00:25:02It's my turn.
00:25:03The queen.
00:25:07The newcomer to the circle.
00:25:09Dare.
00:25:09Oh, she has this.
00:25:11Double D, baby.
00:25:13Double D.
00:25:14I dare you, Darcy, to let Cara lick one of your nipples.
00:25:24Ah!
00:25:25Bitch!
00:25:27Oh!
00:25:28Whoa!
00:25:29I need to see that!
00:25:33Here, I'll lick your boob, but not your nipple.
00:25:35OK.
00:25:36And let me see.
00:25:37Let come closer.
00:25:38Yeah.
00:25:38I'm such a pervert.
00:25:40No, she left to lick twice for me.
00:25:42She didn't.
00:25:43No, she doesn't hurt her.
00:25:44No, I didn't see it.
00:25:45Ah!
00:25:48Yeah, double D's, baby.
00:25:50Y'all are ratchet as hell.
00:25:52Zero .
00:25:54True or dare?
00:25:56I can't dare.
00:25:57Woo!
00:25:58OK.
00:25:58I want you are dancing for your wife.
00:26:02She's still your wife.
00:26:03Take off your shirt and make sexy feeding her this sandwich
00:26:08without your hand.
00:26:11I can't tell her so we're good.
00:26:12Show the Latino movement.
00:26:14Da da da da da da da da da da da da da da.
00:26:17Yeah, ooh.
00:26:18Loo loo loo loo loo.
00:26:20Ah!
00:26:21Woo!
00:26:22Woo!
00:26:23Woo!
00:26:24Woo!
00:26:25Woo!
00:26:26She's being a bonger, punish her!
00:26:36I'll make her smell it.
00:26:37There you go.
00:26:45Smile, smile!
00:26:47Sock it.
00:26:48I mean, .
00:26:50Wow, that was cute.
00:26:58Look, it's responding.
00:26:59Let's see.
00:27:00Bring it on.
00:27:01Says, I don't know who you are.
00:27:03If it wasn't him, he'd say wrong number.
00:27:05Where is Matt?
00:27:06Upstairs.
00:27:07Somebody see if he's on his phone.
00:27:08Where is he?
00:27:09Let's go sneak and see.
00:27:10I'll peek around the corner.
00:27:11Somebody put my camera on him.
00:27:13Where?
00:27:15Upstairs.
00:27:16We'll see if he's texting.
00:27:17If he's on his phone right now, that's him.
00:27:20What?
00:27:30Kara, you're still living in the house that you and Guillermo bought together.
00:27:33Yes.
00:27:34Are you trying to get his name off the date?
00:27:36I mean, I think it's fair.
00:27:38He didn't contribute money, and that's the reality of what happened.
00:27:41Mm-mm, that is not.
00:27:43That's a dumb way to think about it.
00:27:45We'll see if he's texting.
00:27:46If he's on his phone right now, that's Matt.
00:27:47Too loud.
00:27:48We can't sleep.
00:27:49You guys missed some crazy .
00:27:50Missed it.
00:27:51Licked doorknob, licked toes.
00:27:52Big .
00:27:53Yeah, that's right.
00:27:54More action here than I get with you.
00:27:55By me.
00:27:56By me.
00:27:57All right, let me do it one more time.
00:28:09Is somebody texting you?
00:28:10No, I'm not playing.
00:28:11Why?
00:28:12Why?
00:28:13Is somebody texting you earlier?
00:28:16I have no idea why.
00:28:17No.
00:28:18Hold on.
00:28:19Were you texting somebody earlier?
00:28:20No.
00:28:21I'm going to go back and get a drink.
00:28:22Yeah, let's go, man.
00:28:23Yeah, let's go, man.
00:28:24Yeah, let's go, man.
00:28:25This is kind of boring here.
00:28:26Yeah.
00:28:27Our spy mission was a total bust.
00:28:32I mean, either Matt changed his phone number, or Gino's lying.
00:28:33I don't know.
00:28:34All right.
00:28:35Please leave your message.
00:28:36No.
00:28:37Did they figured it out upstairs or no?
00:28:38I don't know.
00:28:39Children, come back.
00:28:40What did you discover?
00:28:41Nothing.
00:28:42Nothing.
00:28:43He wasn't on there.
00:28:44No.
00:28:45No.
00:28:46No.
00:28:47No.
00:28:48No.
00:28:49No.
00:28:50No.
00:28:51No.
00:28:52No.
00:28:53No.
00:28:54No.
00:28:55No.
00:28:56No.
00:28:57No.
00:28:58No.
00:28:59No.
00:29:00No.
00:29:01No.
00:29:02He was on his phone.
00:29:03Jasmine's looking at me like I'm crazy.
00:29:05I'm like, Matt, are you texting anybody right now?
00:29:07And he was like, no.
00:29:09I called like three times.
00:29:11Nothing happens.
00:29:12Answer?
00:29:13Nothing happens.
00:29:14Nothing happens.
00:29:15Matt's phone number was definitely a match at the time that I pulled the phone records,
00:29:21because I verified it myself.
00:29:23So the fact that Matt changed his number, I mean, that just shows he's guilty.
00:29:28So you can't even question it.
00:29:32I just hear somebody upstairs leak Darcy's boobs tonight.
00:29:35Oh, yeah?
00:29:36Yeah.
00:29:37What did you say?
00:29:38Somebody touched her boobs?
00:29:39Lick it.
00:29:40Who?
00:29:41Guillermo?
00:29:42Kara?
00:29:43Oh, okay.
00:29:45They're playing a game.
00:29:46In the front of other people there.
00:29:48They're having fun.
00:29:49They're having fun.
00:29:50They're having fun.
00:29:51That's an excuse.
00:29:52They're having fun.
00:29:53Let's go strip club.
00:29:54I'm just going to have fun.
00:29:55Yeah.
00:29:56Okay.
00:29:57Well, I have a dare for all of you.
00:29:59Yay!
00:30:00I dare you all to get the out of my room.
00:30:02Oh, my gosh.
00:30:03My pleasure.
00:30:04Yay!
00:30:05That was fun.
00:30:06All of us?
00:30:07I love you.
00:30:08Don't get me wrong.
00:30:09You sure?
00:30:10All of us?
00:30:11You maybe somebody want to stay?
00:30:12Thank you for having us.
00:30:13That was a fun game.
00:30:14I think all of you is just fine.
00:30:16All right.
00:30:17When's the last time you guys had sex?
00:30:19How many months?
00:30:20Y'all told me three in Miami when we hung out.
00:30:22Jovi, when was that?
00:30:23Ah, that was like three months ago.
00:30:25So that would be six months.
00:30:26We're just too busy.
00:30:28She said January.
00:30:29Too busy to have sex?
00:30:30Yeah.
00:30:31Oh, come on.
00:30:32You can do a quickie.
00:30:33You just went on a nice vacation.
00:30:34I feel like that's the first thing you want to do when you get there.
00:30:36I don't know.
00:30:40Hey, guys.
00:30:41How's the party?
00:30:42What's up over leaking upstairs?
00:30:44That was the fun room.
00:30:46Played a little truth in there.
00:30:47What did you do there?
00:30:48No.
00:30:49Got my tit licked.
00:30:50How she licked your nipples?
00:30:52Like this.
00:30:54In the front of everybody.
00:30:57That's right, baby.
00:30:59So everybody see your boobs upstairs?
00:31:00Yeah.
00:31:01It was fun.
00:31:02Innocent fun.
00:31:03What's up with a sex situation, seriously?
00:31:05I don't know.
00:31:06Ask him.
00:31:07Ask me?
00:31:08You're tired all the time.
00:31:09You're not in the mood for us.
00:31:10Dad, stop blaming me for everything.
00:31:11First and foremost.
00:31:14We both have to want it.
00:31:15But you know what I'm saying?
00:31:16Like, it's like, are you getting it off somewhere else?
00:31:18That's what you were asking.
00:31:19Like in the shower, at the steam room with a hottie.
00:31:21Definitely somewhere, because you're not going to, like, if you last for two weeks, you're
00:31:25going to and you're asleep.
00:31:27I have widgets, yeah.
00:31:28You do?
00:31:29Why not a woman?
00:31:30You have a woman.
00:31:31Ask her.
00:31:32Yeah.
00:31:33I mean, obviously, I'm, you know, hormonal at this moment.
00:31:36But I also want some romance.
00:31:37I want to, like...
00:31:38It only takes, what, five, ten minutes?
00:31:39No, he's quick.
00:31:40He's quick.
00:31:41It's like a wham-bam, thank you, ma'am.
00:31:42It ain't hours long in that shirt.
00:31:43If I really wanted it, it's like, all right.
00:31:44I don't mind that.
00:31:45You know, you're actually, like, you know, slow and a little gentle.
00:31:47You're never, like, freaky or nothing like that.
00:31:48I've had freaky.
00:31:49Yes, dude.
00:31:50You're saying Georgie's boring.
00:31:51I don't know.
00:31:52It's because we both probably are now.
00:31:53We just got so used to each other.
00:31:55You know, we need to spice it up, so maybe we need to do something.
00:31:57Y'all take a shot of tequila, make your way upstairs, and renew your six-month membership.
00:32:15Renew your membership.
00:32:16Do you want to go in the room and have a six?
00:32:20Let's do it.
00:32:21Take a shot and go.
00:32:22Let's take it to the bedroom, baby.
00:32:25Do you have a problem, Georgie?
00:32:27Like, what's the problem?
00:32:28Like, do you have a problem?
00:32:29Why are you not your wife?
00:32:31I'll give you some liquid courage.
00:32:33She better be smiling ear to ear.
00:32:36Yeah!
00:32:37Tomorrow we'll be in the studio.
00:32:38I'm Bulgarian.
00:32:39Yes!
00:32:40All of you gonna hear us scream tonight.
00:32:47Let's go.
00:32:53Come to bed.
00:32:55Yeah, baby.
00:32:56Don't fall asleep.
00:32:57Wake up!
00:32:58Georgie!
00:32:59You feel like a dead body.
00:33:00I can't breathe.
00:33:01Help, help, help.
00:33:02Oh, my God, that was so much fun.
00:33:03Two to third day.
00:33:04Kara, I'll never forget you.
00:33:05I tasted your perfume for, like, an hour after that.
00:33:08Oh, you did?
00:33:09Oh, no.
00:33:10Oh, no.
00:33:11Oh, you did.
00:33:12Oh.
00:33:13Oh, I'm still ready.
00:33:14Yeah.
00:33:15Oh, I'm still ready.
00:33:16Yeah.
00:33:17I'll never forget you.
00:33:21I tasted your perfume for like an hour after that.
00:33:39Oh, I'm so ready.
00:33:41Yeah.
00:33:45Let's do this.
00:33:46I'm so excited.
00:33:47You know, you got it.
00:33:49Thank you, sir.
00:33:51Ready?
00:33:52Ready?
00:33:53Yeah.
00:33:54I slept there last time, man.
00:33:56I didn't sleep that long.
00:34:04We're going first today?
00:34:05Good for me.
00:34:07It's OK, we can just get it out of the way.
00:34:08Yeah.
00:34:09All my cries out.
00:34:14I feel very dropy today.
00:34:16I'm not in a good night.
00:34:22Good morning, guys.
00:34:23Good morning.
00:34:25Good morning.
00:34:26Good to see you.
00:34:28How was your night?
00:34:29Never better.
00:34:30I didn't see you guys last night.
00:34:32So what was happening upstairs?
00:34:33Anything crazy?
00:34:34Man, weird, weird stuff happened.
00:34:36OK, now I want to know.
00:34:38Brandon licked a door, how do you say it?
00:34:42A doorknob?
00:34:43Uh-huh.
00:34:44OK, I'm glad I was downstairs.
00:34:46Hey.
00:34:47What's up?
00:34:48I heard you licking doorknobs.
00:34:49What happened last night?
00:34:50Sucked the gold off that thing, right?
00:34:52Was it a bet?
00:34:54Like, what was evident?
00:34:55We were just sitting around playing truth or dare.
00:34:56Y'all were quiet.
00:34:57I figured everybody went to sleep.
00:34:58Really?
00:34:58Yeah.
00:34:59Oh, no, I thought we were loud as .
00:35:00I mean, maybe the house does have, uh, how do you say?
00:35:04Good walls?
00:35:05Yeah.
00:35:05Soundproofing, yeah.
00:35:07I mean, I haven't heard anybody having sex, so.
00:35:10How about you?
00:35:11How about me?
00:35:12With what?
00:35:13Geosex?
00:35:14Ha!
00:35:16Wasn't Carol hot and bothered after your little private dance?
00:35:18No dance?
00:35:29My love!
00:35:31I didn't, I saw you, but you were getting makeup,
00:35:33and I didn't, I wanted to.
00:35:35I, I hear it.
00:35:36You're good?
00:35:37I have your back.
00:35:38Relax.
00:35:39You are who matters.
00:35:42You're not crying.
00:35:43No, just shh.
00:35:45Breathing exercises.
00:35:47I need, I need to.
00:35:48Yeah, squish it, squish it, squish it.
00:35:50I came here thinking, like, everybody was going to probably
00:35:53be a dick to me.
00:35:54But overall, everybody has been, like, pretty,
00:35:57like, pretty cool to me and pretty nice, so.
00:36:00I wanted to not like you.
00:36:01Oh, OK.
00:36:02Just giving, just giving everything.
00:36:02Nobody wants to like him.
00:36:03I know.
00:36:04And then you meet him, and you're like,
00:36:04oh, that plan.
00:36:05I know, he's so likable.
00:36:06It's crazy.
00:36:08Yeah, unfortunately.
00:36:10Unfortunately.
00:36:11He's socializing more today.
00:36:13He feels more confident.
00:36:14Look at our kids.
00:36:15Them on the couch, talking with people.
00:36:17I just have to keep, like, an eye on Matt.
00:36:20He's too charming sometimes.
00:36:22I don't like that.
00:36:24With, with, with, with, yeah, because with Gino,
00:36:26I didn't care, because he is so bitchy to everyone.
00:36:30Like, you know, you don't.
00:36:31Oh, you know, isn't it nice?
00:36:34No.
00:36:36I guess I, too, like, I've seen Jasmine blow up and, like,
00:36:39cry so much, so much, that I was like, oh, here we go.
00:36:43Is it just going to be, like, one big drama show all the time?
00:36:45No.
00:36:46See, just like that.
00:36:48I'm literally trying to say, I thought you were going to be
00:36:50so much drama, but you actually turned out to be so nice.
00:36:52But you're just proving the first part.
00:36:54I don't want to interrupt the peace and quiet.
00:36:57Are you sure?
00:36:58So I'm going to be in this corner,
00:37:00because apparently I'm too loud.
00:37:03Hi, Darcy.
00:37:04Good morning.
00:37:04Hi, Mama.
00:37:05Oh, it's so nice to see Georgie by Darcy's side.
00:37:08Yeah.
00:37:08Amen.
00:37:09Because sometimes I forget that you're even a couple,
00:37:12because it's always Darcy by, by herself.
00:37:15I know.
00:37:15He likes to walk off.
00:37:16And Georgie with any female, except from his wife.
00:37:19True.
00:37:20Shots fired.
00:37:21Shots fired.
00:37:23Jesus.
00:37:24All right, guys.
00:37:25We're ready for you back on set.
00:37:26All right.
00:37:27Let's do this.
00:37:28All right.
00:37:29Kara, you guys first?
00:37:30Yeah.
00:37:31Good boy.
00:37:32Good boy.
00:37:33It's our time, G.
00:37:39Good morning.
00:37:40Good morning.
00:37:41Good morning.
00:37:42Good morning.
00:37:50I hope I don't pop out of my dress.
00:37:52You might have to have my back.
00:37:53I feel good about that.
00:37:54Let me know if you see anything.
00:37:56Right, please.
00:38:00Five, four, three, two.
00:38:04Welcome back to 90 Day Fiance.
00:38:06Happily Ever After, The Couples Tell All.
00:38:09All right, everybody.
00:38:10Are you guys ready?
00:38:11Yep.
00:38:12We are ready.
00:38:13I want to start off with Kara and Guillermo.
00:38:16Now, I understand there was a little bit of flirting going on last night between the two
00:38:22of you.
00:38:23Is that right?
00:38:24I think, in my opinion, I think we, there's a lot of stuff happening that's really heavy.
00:38:30Yeah.
00:38:31And I think our way to deal with it has seemed to be to just joke and keep it very, like, light.
00:38:37Yeah.
00:38:38Because once we start to really get into it.
00:38:41Mm-hmm.
00:38:42So, what is the status of your relationship?
00:38:49Separated.
00:38:50Separated.
00:38:51Living separate.
00:38:52Co-parenting.
00:38:53Living separate lives.
00:38:54Co-parenting.
00:38:55Still married.
00:38:56Kara, you're still living in the house that you and Guillermo bought together.
00:38:59Yes.
00:39:00Okay.
00:39:01All right.
00:39:02And Guillermo, oh, you just threw me a look right there.
00:39:05How do you feel about that?
00:39:07Never better.
00:39:08Never better?
00:39:09Yeah.
00:39:10Okay.
00:39:11So, you both bought that house together.
00:39:14Mm-hmm.
00:39:15With both your funds.
00:39:16Mm-hmm.
00:39:17Right.
00:39:19Mm-hmm.
00:39:20The looks between you two.
00:39:22Kara, is that right?
00:39:23You bought that house together with both your funds?
00:39:25Uh, sure, in the sense that we're married and so our funds are one.
00:39:29Yeah.
00:39:30Kara, is Guillermo's name on the house?
00:39:34Mm-hmm.
00:39:35Yeah, on, not on the loan, but on the deed.
00:39:38When we bought the house, obviously I was okay with him being on the deed.
00:39:43I wanted to create a future with him.
00:39:45Yes.
00:39:46But now that we're separate, now I think about it and like, oh, I really did everything
00:39:51to really get us into that house, and he just gets to have 50% ownership.
00:39:55Are you trying to get his name off the deed?
00:39:59I mean, I think it's fair.
00:40:02He doesn't live there.
00:40:03He didn't contribute money.
00:40:05And that's the reality of what happened.
00:40:06Mm-mm, that is not.
00:40:08I'm just waiting for my moment.
00:40:10Well, go ahead.
00:40:11Have your moment.
00:40:12I'm sorry.
00:40:13I remember actually clear conversations.
00:40:16And actually you were the one putting every single thing that I will spend in the house
00:40:21or in the family.
00:40:22And actually it was more than what you were putting into the house.
00:40:26And then the payment that I was doing, it was like food and this and the other and the kid
00:40:31and the da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
00:40:32Specifically about the house, it was more so me.
00:40:35As our budget as a whole, it was sometimes more him depending on what the bills were that month.
00:40:41But you can't separate the two.
00:40:43You were living together and spending money on everything.
00:40:46You can't separate the house from everything else.
00:40:48You can't give him back his food.
00:40:50Yeah, but the food he paid for is not accruing equity over the next 25 years either.
00:40:55But wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
00:40:58But that's a dumb way to think about it.
00:41:01Even if you're saying that you're paying this and I'm paying that, at the end of the day, it's one.
00:41:07I wanted it to be one thing. I wanted it to be together. I wanted it to be one thing.
00:41:12You wanted it and it was.
00:41:15How much is it worth? Do you want to fight that battle and you want to claim 50%? How much did you put in?
00:41:22Listen, I come from nothing and I don't care if I go back there.
00:41:30I just want to have a good life. That's it.
00:41:33I need fighting with you. It's not going to give me that, so then just keep it.
00:41:41You have decided that you are going to give up your 50%.
00:41:44Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did.
00:41:46So you're letting it go?
00:41:47Yeah.
00:41:48Okay, yeah.
00:41:49Which is very nice of you, but to be honest, if the shoe was to be turned the other way
00:41:53and you were paying the mortgage and she was paying more on the rest of the bills,
00:41:57she would be claiming, I'm paying more now.
00:41:59There are so many things that there's no equality in this.
00:42:04You don't think there's equality in your relationship with Kara?
00:42:11No.
00:42:16When she drinks, it's a completely different person.
00:42:20I don't feel comfortable with this.
00:42:23She's basically saying she's not wife material.
00:42:26Stop, Andrew.
00:42:27That's what it is.
00:42:30Yes.
00:42:31Um...
00:42:33You don't think there's equality in your relationship with Kara?
00:42:43No.
00:42:47If I will do the same things that she do, I will definitely be looking really bad.
00:42:54Like, for example?
00:42:55I keep my kid.
00:42:58I don't care about you.
00:42:59It's not your country, but still I don't care about you.
00:43:02I've never said that to you.
00:43:03No, but it's the truth.
00:43:05It's there.
00:43:06Like, you can see it.
00:43:10Guillermo, do you think that you would be treated differently by Kara if you did not have a son together?
00:43:20Yes.
00:43:21In what way?
00:43:25Um...
00:43:27Would you like to answer that?
00:43:28No, you can answer.
00:43:31Um...
00:43:34There is a...
00:43:38small line of respect that I feel from her just because I'm the father of her kid.
00:43:47And if Nico wouldn't be there, that respect, it will be none.
00:43:56Wow.
00:43:57Sounds bad.
00:43:58Think you would already be divorced?
00:44:00I would...
00:44:01Yeah, I will...
00:44:02I will...
00:44:03I will think so.
00:44:04What respect means for you?
00:44:05What does respect?
00:44:06You said she has more respect for you.
00:44:08What does it mean for you?
00:44:09I will start with the way she will speak to me.
00:44:12She speaks down to you?
00:44:14Yeah.
00:44:15Down means rude and-and names and all of that kind of stuff.
00:44:21Like, that's how she is.
00:44:23That's how Kara is.
00:44:25In fact, Rona said, Guillermo, the way Kara speaks to you, that's really bad.
00:44:32That's what Kara's mother told you?
00:44:34Yeah.
00:44:35What am I saying to you that you find so disrespectful?
00:44:40Do you call him names?
00:44:42Huh?
00:44:43No.
00:44:44What did I call you?
00:44:45No.
00:44:47I think my general tone sometimes can be sharp, particularly if I'm upset or angry or whatever.
00:44:52And I think he finds that tone disrespectful.
00:44:57No, no, no.
00:44:58We're talking about words.
00:44:59Like, mother .
00:45:00Like, all of those words that they can come out, that in my opinion, you shouldn't be saying those things to your husband.
00:45:07The way you spoke to me, it's not the right way to speak to me.
00:45:14Okay, I want to pivot to another point of contention in your relationship.
00:45:18Kara, what is the status of your music career?
00:45:23It's just growing.
00:45:24Mm-hmm.
00:45:25And evolving.
00:45:26Bringing in money?
00:45:27You know, music is a really hard industry.
00:45:29And I don't know that you see profit for a while.
00:45:33Okay.
00:45:34I want to look back at how Kara's dream of a music career resulted in a nightmare for her marriage.
00:45:41Let's watch.
00:45:43People started arriving like an hour ago, and Guillermo still isn't here.
00:45:48There was a time when Guillermo was different.
00:45:53He was really supportive of my performances and of my career.
00:45:58I never had the feeling that one day, maybe he wouldn't be there as my biggest supporter, my biggest fan.
00:46:04So how come you didn't go to Kara's performance?
00:46:05I'm not going to be part of the possible bullshit that could be going on in Kara's life.
00:46:17Let's go.
00:46:18Let's go.
00:46:19Let's go.
00:46:20Let's go.
00:46:21Let's go.
00:46:22Let's go.
00:46:23Let's go.
00:46:24Let's go.
00:46:25Let's go.
00:46:26Let's go.
00:46:27Let's go.
00:46:28Let's go.
00:46:29Let's go.
00:46:30Let's go.
00:46:31Let's go.
00:46:32Let's go.
00:46:33Let's go.
00:46:34Let's go.
00:46:35Let's go.
00:46:36Let's go.
00:46:37Let's go.
00:46:38Let's go.
00:46:39Let's go.
00:46:40Let's go.
00:46:41Let's go.
00:46:42Let's go.
00:46:43Let's go.
00:46:44Let's go.
00:46:45Let's go.
00:46:46You're into women three Vorobos, you've got a babylon.
00:46:47She will wear something like no clothes or almost not clothes.
00:46:50And I've said like, yo, that makes me a little bit, a little bit weird.
00:46:54And every time I said that, it's like, who do you think you are to tell me what to do?
00:46:57What to wear and stuff?
00:46:58And I it's not that I'm telling you what to do, what to wear, not at all.
00:47:04It's just that it makes me feel a little bit weird.
00:47:07You know what?
00:47:08Enjoy your life.
00:47:10Go do your thing.
00:47:11But I'm not going to be part of it.
00:47:14Kara, when you were watching that, what were you feeling?
00:47:22I guess it's just the realization that somehow I've ended up
00:47:26married to someone that just, like, doesn't support me.
00:47:33I just never thought it was going to be that way.
00:47:37You know?
00:47:38If anybody should be there, it should be him.
00:47:40Even if it was in the middle of a desert, you know?
00:47:43Like, if anyone should be there, it should be my husband.
00:47:46Yeah, I think you should have been there for her and supported her.
00:47:53When she was going out to sing, then she keeps going into a potty,
00:47:58drinking, and then to another potty,
00:48:01and then to someone else's house until, like, 4 a.m.
00:48:05And I'm like, yo, were you not going to sing
00:48:08and then come back home to your family?
00:48:11No, no, no.
00:48:12It's to continue from this place to another place,
00:48:14to continue drinking.
00:48:16And we know, we know...
00:48:18She's just having fun.
00:48:21But she did not cheat, you know?
00:48:22She just had fun.
00:48:23Um, no, that's...
00:48:26I actually went to New York two weeks ago,
00:48:29to Manhattan without Jovi for my birthday,
00:48:31and Jovi didn't have no problem with that.
00:48:33I go out, we go to the bar with my friends.
00:48:36Think from his perspective,
00:48:38if he goes out until 4 o'clock in the morning,
00:48:40three parties, would you believe him?
00:48:43He's singing only?
00:48:44If his goal was to be a singer,
00:48:47and he had a show,
00:48:48I would never miss his show.
00:48:50So he has a jealousy problem, okay.
00:48:53Yeah, I think she's using the music
00:48:54as an excuse for her to continue to go out
00:48:57because she knows that Guillermo doesn't like it.
00:48:58But she's not happy in her marriage.
00:48:59So if she's already there,
00:49:00it's an excuse to keep going.
00:49:02If I would have done the same thing,
00:49:04I'll be in trouble.
00:49:05No, if you would have done the same thing,
00:49:06I would have been by your side with you
00:49:08the whole time.
00:49:09I think she would be with you.
00:49:09Yeah, if you will be there for her,
00:49:12she will be go home with you.
00:49:14Look,
00:49:15I have a problem with Cara when she drinks.
00:49:22When she drinks,
00:49:24it's a completely different person.
00:49:30And she knows it.
00:49:37Tell us about this DJ friend of yours.
00:49:42He was writing her.
00:49:44And the way he was writing,
00:49:45it was to invite her out.
00:49:48And then she will be acting in very different ways.
00:49:51I'll be very honest.
00:49:52If I went to him tomorrow
00:49:53and was like,
00:49:54hey, let's hook up,
00:49:55I have no doubts he would.
00:49:56Oh my God.
00:49:58Oh.
00:49:59When she drinks,
00:50:09it's a completely different person.
00:50:12So then I was like,
00:50:13hey, listen,
00:50:13I don't feel comfortable with this.
00:50:15So then I will get scared
00:50:17of going to those places
00:50:18because then she'll be drinking
00:50:20and then she will be acting
00:50:22in very different ways.
00:50:23She will be like very cute
00:50:25and cozy with some other guys.
00:50:27She will be like dancing
00:50:28very cute with other guys.
00:50:30They think they have a chance.
00:50:31Exactly.
00:50:32She's not being like,
00:50:33oh, okay, sorry.
00:50:34Like, I'm not going to speak to these people.
00:50:36I'm married.
00:50:37Like, I feel like that never comes up.
00:50:38But she's a singer.
00:50:39Aren't those her fans?
00:50:41I mean, imagine.
00:50:42But I think you still have to be respectful
00:50:44to your marriage.
00:50:46I get a terrible point.
00:50:47So it's disrespectful.
00:50:48I've been there, right?
00:50:49She's going somewhere,
00:50:50like, what,
00:50:51she's just going to hang out there
00:50:52and she's going to talk around
00:50:53everybody around
00:50:54and he'll just stay in there
00:50:56watching, having a drink.
00:50:57It don't feel okay.
00:50:58He could also enjoy himself.
00:51:02Kara, do you think you become
00:51:04a different person when you drink?
00:51:06I think I become more fun
00:51:07when I drink.
00:51:08For you, not for Guillermo.
00:51:13He doesn't look like
00:51:15he has fun when you drink.
00:51:17He's basically saying
00:51:18she's not wife material.
00:51:19That's what it is.
00:51:20What?
00:51:21Yes, that's what it is.
00:51:22She can do all of it.
00:51:24Wife is not the only wife
00:51:25who sit at home
00:51:26and cook and clean.
00:51:27Stop, Andrew.
00:51:28He doesn't want to see
00:51:29his woman going out
00:51:30and speaking and taking shots.
00:51:31She's a mother woman.
00:51:32Why could you choose her
00:51:33than to be his wife?
00:51:34From day one
00:51:35when I met Guillermo,
00:51:36I've never not been who I am.
00:51:38Like, I never changed.
00:51:40He changed.
00:51:41He was fine with who I was.
00:51:43What if she stopped drinking
00:51:45and just did networking
00:51:46after the show
00:51:47for one hour
00:51:48and then comes home?
00:51:49Would it change the situation?
00:51:50Beautiful life.
00:51:51In fact, in fact,
00:51:53my man.
00:51:54She's just having fun.
00:51:55In fact, my man.
00:51:56No, no, no, no, no.
00:51:58We agreed
00:51:59that she had a problem drinking.
00:52:02I was going to ask that.
00:52:03Does she have a drinking problem?
00:52:06In my opinion, she does.
00:52:07In his opinion, I...
00:52:09And then she said
00:52:10to my face,
00:52:12hey, you know what?
00:52:12I'm going to stop drinking.
00:52:14Did you say that, Kim?
00:52:15I did.
00:52:16In an effort
00:52:17to save our marriage,
00:52:20which time over time,
00:52:22he says,
00:52:23I never tried.
00:52:24I didn't try hard enough.
00:52:25I didn't take accountability.
00:52:26I looked at him and said,
00:52:27okay, maybe you're right.
00:52:28I can stop drinking.
00:52:29I will try to stop drinking
00:52:30because I want
00:52:32our marriage to work.
00:52:33And how did that go?
00:52:34Two weeks.
00:52:35I mean, I definitely
00:52:36started drinking.
00:52:37But like...
00:52:38Two weeks.
00:52:39Two weeks, no drink.
00:52:41Yeah, but he was still
00:52:42being ridiculous also.
00:52:44So you said,
00:52:44forget it,
00:52:44I'm going to start drinking again.
00:52:46Ridiculous what?
00:52:46I'm trying to build trust.
00:52:48I'm trying to go back
00:52:49and feel comfortable again.
00:52:50No, I was trying
00:52:50to communicate with you.
00:52:51You were shutting me down.
00:52:52I couldn't...
00:52:52You were giving non-answers.
00:52:54I was...
00:52:54You were making
00:52:54uncomfortable.
00:52:56I'm uncomfortable.
00:52:56And I was like,
00:52:57okay, so now I stopped drinking
00:52:58to try to save our marriage
00:52:59and he's not doing any work.
00:53:00I'm giving up stuff.
00:53:01I'm making sacrifices.
00:53:02I'm trying to fix it.
00:53:03How else did you drink?
00:53:03Yeah, I'm wondering,
00:53:04did you think
00:53:05you had a drinking problem, Cara?
00:53:07I mean,
00:53:08there's definitely been times
00:53:08where I've gone too hard.
00:53:10Okay.
00:53:12So were you doing it,
00:53:14giving up drinking
00:53:14just for Guillermo
00:53:16or did you feel like
00:53:17it was something
00:53:17that you should do for yourself?
00:53:19Maybe a little column A
00:53:20and a little column B.
00:53:21I mean, I think alcohol
00:53:22is not good for you long term.
00:53:23It obviously doesn't
00:53:23make you feel good.
00:53:24But then you only gave it
00:53:25two weeks, right?
00:53:26Yeah.
00:53:28Okay.
00:53:28Do you think you should have
00:53:31gone a little bit longer?
00:53:33Would that have made a difference,
00:53:34do you think?
00:53:34No, I don't.
00:53:35That's why I just started
00:53:35drinking again
00:53:36because I was like,
00:53:36clearly me doing,
00:53:37I just didn't feel like
00:53:38it was going to make
00:53:39any difference
00:53:39because he was still being
00:53:40like standoffish
00:53:42and mean and like...
00:53:43No, look, look, look.
00:53:44She doesn't like
00:53:44when people tell her
00:53:46what to do.
00:53:47And this is not just
00:53:47coming from me
00:53:48because I just want to say it.
00:53:50When I start...
00:53:51No, I get on that.
00:53:51Yeah, she can agree.
00:53:53Her mother told me
00:53:54when I got here,
00:53:55Kara is the type
00:53:57that she would do
00:53:58whatever she wants.
00:53:59Be careful.
00:54:00Be careful.
00:54:01Her mom said this to you?
00:54:02Yes.
00:54:03Rana said that to me.
00:54:06Well, I want to pivot
00:54:07to a related topic.
00:54:09At one point in their marriage,
00:54:11something happened
00:54:11that fractured
00:54:12the relationship.
00:54:13Guillermo became suspicious
00:54:15of Kara
00:54:15and a relationship she had
00:54:17with a local DJ.
00:54:19Take a look.
00:54:21Kara will go
00:54:22to the Latin night
00:54:24with her friends,
00:54:25which is this guy,
00:54:27DJ,
00:54:29until what?
00:54:30Like 3, 4 a.m.?
00:54:31Does make me feel very weird.
00:54:35More when they have a past.
00:54:39I hooked up with this human
00:54:40literally in 2011,
00:54:43one summer,
00:54:44one time.
00:54:45We've been very good friends
00:54:46ever since.
00:54:47He's now started the Latin event
00:54:48in Charlottesville
00:54:49and hosts every Bachata night.
00:54:51Of course, I'm going to him saying,
00:54:52hey, can I perform at your events?
00:54:54Hey, can you help me promote my music?
00:54:56Like, true friends.
00:54:58And because after Latin night,
00:55:00we go back to the after party
00:55:02that's at his house,
00:55:03it's a problem.
00:55:05It's the same guy
00:55:06that when we got married,
00:55:08he was writing her
00:55:09and trying to take her out.
00:55:12There's no proof
00:55:13to what he's accusing me of.
00:55:15And that is hurtful to me.
00:55:19Okay, Kara,
00:55:20tell us about this DJ friend of yours.
00:55:23Javier and I became friends
00:55:26early, early,
00:55:27like 2008, 2009,
00:55:29dancing Bachata.
00:55:30It was an underground scene
00:55:31at that point.
00:55:32Had sex one time.
00:55:34One time.
00:55:35I immediately was like,
00:55:36we're friends.
00:55:37I have no interest in you.
00:55:38Sorry it went too far.
00:55:39I'd really like to keep it friends
00:55:40because we've been friends
00:55:41already for so long.
00:55:42I was gone for a decade.
00:55:43He got married, had kids.
00:55:45We always kept in touch.
00:55:46Why would I not call upon my friend
00:55:48to help promote my music?
00:55:50Is this guy still married with kids?
00:55:52Yeah.
00:55:52No.
00:55:52Yes, they are still legally married.
00:55:57It's fine to work with him,
00:55:58but like,
00:55:59is it necessary to go
00:56:00to the after party
00:56:01at four o'clock in the morning?
00:56:03I mean, yeah,
00:56:04that's debatable.
00:56:05I would be uncomfortable too.
00:56:08But there was a time
00:56:10when we just got married
00:56:11that he was writing her.
00:56:15And the way he was writing,
00:56:16it was to invite her out.
00:56:20Kara, I get the impression
00:56:21that there's something
00:56:21you are holding back.
00:56:24What's going on?
00:56:28I'll be very honest.
00:56:29In my heart of hearts,
00:56:30if I went to him tomorrow
00:56:32and was like,
00:56:33hey, let's hook up,
00:56:34I have no doubts he would.
00:56:37Oh, my God.
00:56:38I have no doubt about it.
00:56:39When we come back,
00:56:44we're going to talk
00:56:45to Brandon and Julia.
00:56:49So I'm not sure
00:56:50what they're going to do.
00:56:50Okay.
00:56:51Okay.
00:56:52Stop in your skater,
00:56:53I understand.
00:56:59Is everybody ready?
00:57:00I'll be very honest.
00:57:12If I went to him tomorrow
00:57:13and was like,
00:57:14hey, let's hook up,
00:57:15I have no doubts he would.
00:57:16Oh.
00:57:19Then I'm on your side, Guillermo.
00:57:22I'm not going to
00:57:23Javier.
00:57:25I don't want to touch him
00:57:26with a 20-foot pole.
00:57:27So, like,
00:57:28I know where I stand with him
00:57:29and it takes two to tango.
00:57:30Like, I don't give a
00:57:32what advances
00:57:32he's trying to make of me.
00:57:33But then I will come
00:57:34with my insecurities
00:57:35and I will be like,
00:57:37hey, yo,
00:57:38that makes me feel uncomfortable.
00:57:39Can you please talk?
00:57:40And you're wrong.
00:57:41Now you're wrong, right?
00:57:42I'm being too nice.
00:57:44As a Latino,
00:57:45too nice.
00:57:46No, but for a long time,
00:57:47as anyone.
00:57:48I did have a conversation
00:57:49with Javier
00:57:49and I said,
00:57:50look, I'm married now.
00:57:51You can't just come up
00:57:52and be like,
00:57:52oh, mommy,
00:57:53you know?
00:57:54My husband's uncomfortable.
00:57:56It's inappropriate.
00:57:56I had several conversations
00:57:57with Javier about this.
00:58:00Okay.
00:58:00So, Kara,
00:58:01do you think
00:58:01the combination of,
00:58:03you know,
00:58:03the late nights
00:58:04after the performance,
00:58:06the drinking,
00:58:07the fact that
00:58:08it may be
00:58:10at this guy's club
00:58:11and he's separated
00:58:12from his wife
00:58:13and he still likes you
00:58:14and would hook up with you,
00:58:16that's kind of
00:58:17a perfect storm
00:58:18for something to happen,
00:58:19don't you think?
00:58:22Like,
00:58:22all the signs are there.
00:58:23I get it.
00:58:24I understand why
00:58:24he's upset,
00:58:25but at the end
00:58:26of the day,
00:58:26I have not done
00:58:27anything wrong
00:58:27and I have not
00:58:29betrayed his trust
00:58:31in that way.
00:58:31I know who I am
00:58:32and I know
00:58:33what my intentions are.
00:58:34If I wanted to
00:58:34Javier,
00:58:35I would have done it
00:58:36a million times
00:58:3710 years ago.
00:58:38Like,
00:58:38it was never
00:58:39something I've wanted
00:58:40and I still
00:58:41and I still
00:58:41don't want it.
00:58:46In this scenario,
00:58:48it's not
00:58:49specifically
00:58:50about him.
00:58:51He's not the problem.
00:58:53My problem
00:58:54is with her.
00:58:55My problem
00:58:56is with
00:58:56my sitting
00:58:57in a table
00:58:58talking about
00:58:59the things
00:59:00that makes me
00:59:00feel uncomfortable
00:59:01and then she
00:59:02will be doing
00:59:02something else.
00:59:03Those are my problems.
00:59:05I've always wanted
00:59:06to sing.
00:59:07I've always been
00:59:07a partier.
00:59:08I've always been
00:59:09coqueta.
00:59:09I've always been
00:59:10outgoing.
00:59:11I've always been
00:59:11maybe a harsh
00:59:13toned speaker,
00:59:14whatever you want
00:59:14to call it.
00:59:14Caramel's shaking
00:59:15his head.
00:59:18I wanted
00:59:19you to say it.
00:59:21And him,
00:59:22and I feel like
00:59:22he was fine
00:59:23with that.
00:59:24He was fine
00:59:25with all of that
00:59:26until we came
00:59:27to America
00:59:28and I was
00:59:28with my friends
00:59:30and my people
00:59:31and then all of a
00:59:32sudden it became
00:59:32a problem.
00:59:38But Cara
00:59:39have you ever
00:59:39cheated on Guillermo?
00:59:41Never.
00:59:41Never.
00:59:42I've cheated on
00:59:42people in my life
00:59:43never with Guillermo.
00:59:45Guillermo,
00:59:45do you believe her?
00:59:49Sure.
00:59:50Sure.
00:59:55Listen,
00:59:56I feel like
00:59:57inside of me
00:59:58I do have problems
00:59:59but my way
01:00:00to come out
01:00:02of those problems
01:00:03it's being
01:00:04just let it go.
01:00:07You were the love
01:00:08of my life.
01:00:09Like I fell in love
01:00:10with you
01:00:11but there was a point
01:00:13that I felt like
01:00:14the person
01:00:15that I fell in love
01:00:16with
01:00:16it wasn't there
01:00:17anymore
01:00:17and I need
01:00:19to accept
01:00:20that.
01:00:27Cara,
01:00:28that really
01:00:28hit you hard.
01:00:30Yeah.
01:00:36I mean she
01:00:37love you.
01:00:37I just
01:00:41I just saw
01:00:42it going
01:00:42so differently
01:00:43than what
01:00:43actually happened.
01:00:45I was really
01:00:45committed
01:00:47and down.
01:00:47I was like
01:00:48ride or die
01:00:49for him.
01:00:50You know?
01:00:54Okay.
01:00:57I want
01:00:58to
01:00:58shift right now
01:01:00to an incident
01:01:01when Cara's
01:01:02mom
01:01:03came to the house
01:01:04last fall.
01:01:05Take a look.
01:01:06Have you
01:01:07somebody else
01:01:08since we were
01:01:08married?
01:01:10No.
01:01:12A few days ago
01:01:13my mom said
01:01:14she thinks
01:01:15that Guillermo
01:01:16cheated on me.
01:01:19Your stepdad
01:01:20and I
01:01:20were watching
01:01:20Nico
01:01:21and you know
01:01:22we went
01:01:22to your house
01:01:23to wait
01:01:24for him
01:01:24to get off
01:01:25work
01:01:25by like
01:01:26five o'clock.
01:01:27So we're
01:01:28sitting there
01:01:28you know
01:01:29we go in
01:01:29and get
01:01:29comfortable
01:01:30and like
01:01:30quarter after
01:01:31six rolls
01:01:32around
01:01:32so Guillermo
01:01:33shows up
01:01:34and when he
01:01:34shows up
01:01:35he was like
01:01:35disshuffled
01:01:36hair
01:01:37crazy
01:01:37he darted
01:01:39for the bathroom
01:01:40he
01:01:41definitely
01:01:42looked
01:01:43guilty
01:01:43and his actions
01:01:45showed me
01:01:45something
01:01:45right.
01:01:49So
01:01:50who
01:01:51thinks
01:01:51there may
01:01:52have been
01:01:52some
01:01:53behavior
01:01:54there
01:01:54that was
01:01:55inappropriate?
01:01:56he came back
01:02:00shuffled
01:02:01doesn't point
01:02:02to anything
01:02:03that he did
01:02:03wrong
01:02:03in my opinion
01:02:04well Ronald
01:02:05might put
01:02:06some gas
01:02:06in the fire
01:02:07you don't know
01:02:07yeah she stirred
01:02:08the puds
01:02:08yeah
01:02:09there's a river
01:02:12that I go a lot
01:02:13and when I
01:02:14normally paddle
01:02:14that river
01:02:15I come smelling
01:02:16no I can tell you
01:02:18what my mom
01:02:18said happened
01:02:19right but
01:02:19he came home
01:02:20from work
01:02:20not the river
01:02:21yeah exactly
01:02:22I went to
01:02:23Mexico
01:02:23but like
01:02:23when he said
01:02:24dang
01:02:24like that's
01:02:24the thing
01:02:25we can look
01:02:25it up
01:02:25but like
01:02:26I went to
01:02:26Mexico
01:02:27to visit
01:02:27my pregnant
01:02:27friend
01:02:28she came
01:02:28back to
01:02:28Mexico
01:02:28to give birth
01:02:29my mom
01:02:30watched Nico
01:02:30while he was
01:02:31at work
01:02:31he was supposed
01:02:31to be back
01:02:32at five
01:02:32he came home
01:02:33closer to like
01:02:33six
01:02:34six thirty
01:02:34whatever
01:02:34he was late
01:02:35then he comes
01:02:36in late
01:02:36disheveled
01:02:37runs straight
01:02:37to the bathroom
01:02:38takes a shower
01:02:38immediately
01:02:39comes back out
01:02:41my mom was like
01:02:41he's late
01:02:42he's disheveled
01:02:43supposed to be
01:02:44at work
01:02:44runs to the bathroom
01:02:46like suspicious
01:02:47and Guillermo
01:02:47you don't remember
01:02:49this at all
01:02:49I'm trying to find
01:02:51the day that I came
01:02:52back like
01:02:53trying to get
01:02:54in the shower
01:02:54I will definitely
01:02:55normally
01:02:55every single time
01:02:56after I come
01:02:57from the river
01:02:58to clean myself
01:02:59because smell like
01:03:00what the river
01:03:01what are you saying
01:03:01the river
01:03:01it smell like
01:03:02no but
01:03:03you don't work
01:03:05at the river
01:03:06and he came back
01:03:08in his work clothes
01:03:09disheveled
01:03:09not his river
01:03:10wetsuit
01:03:11disheveled
01:03:12I've never cheated
01:03:13it's not about
01:03:15the cheating
01:03:16there's so many
01:03:16other problems here
01:03:17I don't know
01:03:17it sounds to me
01:03:18like you're the problem
01:03:19I don't see anything
01:03:20you're really saying
01:03:20that Guillermo's doing
01:03:21stop it
01:03:22she's such a fire
01:03:23he's such a ground
01:03:24they cannot go together
01:03:26I don't think he's wrong
01:03:26is the next step
01:03:30divorce?
01:03:39everybody has their turn
01:03:40in the hot seat
01:03:41to give us the update
01:03:42on their lives
01:03:43so
01:03:44Brandon and Julia
01:03:46sure
01:03:47we've been on
01:03:48our fertility journey
01:03:50it's been
01:03:51like a lot
01:03:52is the next step
01:04:05divorce?
01:04:14we're just separate
01:04:16right now
01:04:17I would rather
01:04:20keep it as it is
01:04:22I know he can be here
01:04:23he can see our son
01:04:24every day
01:04:24is there a part of you
01:04:27that wants the marriage
01:04:28to work?
01:04:29yeah of course
01:04:30I did not want my marriage
01:04:31to fail
01:04:31I didn't get married
01:04:31to get divorced
01:04:32it was never my intention
01:04:33it was never my goal
01:04:34now that I'm on this side
01:04:36of it
01:04:36I don't know
01:04:37that that's the best
01:04:38solution for us
01:04:41Guillermo
01:04:43Guillermo
01:04:43you said during
01:04:44couples therapy
01:04:45that you weren't sure
01:04:46if you loved
01:04:47Cara
01:04:47do you love
01:04:50Cara?
01:04:55yeah
01:04:55I mean she's the mother
01:04:56of my kid
01:04:57so you just love her
01:04:58as the mother of your kid
01:04:59or you love her
01:05:00you love her as a woman
01:05:01he doesn't love all of me
01:05:03you know
01:05:04at least I will speak
01:05:05for my country
01:05:06or like
01:05:07for where I come from
01:05:08but we consider that
01:05:10the mother of your kid
01:05:11that's your woman
01:05:12in Spanish we say
01:05:14like
01:05:15esa es mi mujer
01:05:15and
01:05:16I guess
01:05:18I don't see it like that
01:05:19right now
01:05:20because
01:05:20so I
01:05:22look I don't know
01:05:22I don't know
01:05:23I don't know
01:05:24I'm lost
01:05:24and
01:05:25yeah me too
01:05:25sometimes
01:05:29I don't understand
01:05:30100%
01:05:31what's going on
01:05:32inside of me
01:05:32because I guess
01:05:33I'm still going through
01:05:34just pain
01:05:36okay
01:05:38let me ask
01:05:39our other couples
01:05:40who here thinks
01:05:42that there is a future
01:05:43for Cara
01:05:44and Guillermo
01:05:45I do
01:05:46yeah I think so too
01:05:49I saw
01:05:49I saw
01:05:50energy between them
01:05:52and that energy is real
01:05:53you can't
01:05:54lie about this energy
01:05:56and them have a feeling
01:05:57for each other
01:05:58you can't throw away this
01:05:59I think that he needs
01:06:01more digging
01:06:02into his feelings
01:06:03and open up
01:06:04a little bit more
01:06:05and I know that
01:06:06in our culture
01:06:07it's very difficult
01:06:09for men
01:06:09I mean
01:06:11they look nice together
01:06:12look at them
01:06:13yeah
01:06:14well
01:06:17thank you
01:06:19thank you
01:06:19so much
01:06:19Cara
01:06:20and Guillermo
01:06:21I'm really sorry
01:06:22that you are having
01:06:23so many problems
01:06:24in your relationship
01:06:25now
01:06:25but we do hope
01:06:26that there is a path
01:06:28forward
01:06:28for you both
01:06:30thank you so much
01:06:31for sharing your thoughts
01:06:32thank you
01:06:33okay
01:06:35everybody can take
01:06:36a five minute break
01:06:37and when we return
01:06:38Brandon and Julia
01:06:40we're talking to you
01:06:41we have a couple minutes
01:06:45yeah
01:06:45it's trying
01:06:50I'm happy
01:06:52hey don't do that
01:06:54no
01:06:58and me
01:06:58no
01:06:59okay
01:07:00okay
01:07:02okay
01:07:04okay
01:07:05okay
01:07:06okay
01:07:08okay
01:07:09okay
01:07:10stop in your skateboard
01:07:12I understand
01:07:12but don't be fine
01:07:14you'll do a quick job
01:07:15okay
01:07:15okay
01:07:16okay
01:07:18okay
01:07:19okay everybody
01:07:20please sit down
01:07:21we're gonna get started here
01:07:23five
01:07:25four
01:07:25three
01:07:26two
01:07:27and now
01:07:28let's turn our attention
01:07:29to Brandon
01:07:30and Julia
01:07:31there is a lot
01:07:32we need to unpack
01:07:33so
01:07:34are you ready
01:07:35to get started guys
01:07:36yeah
01:07:37nope
01:07:37yeah
01:07:38okay
01:07:39okay everybody
01:07:40has their turn
01:07:40in the hot seat
01:07:41to give us the update
01:07:42on their lives
01:07:43so
01:07:44how are you two doing
01:07:46can you start
01:07:58sure
01:07:58we've
01:07:59so yeah
01:08:00we've been on our fertility journey
01:08:02I'm starting to cry
01:08:04because all my fertility journey
01:08:06has been our
01:08:07it's been tough
01:08:09it's been hard
01:08:10it's been tough
01:08:10oh
01:08:11it's been like a lot
01:08:13and now what we are dealing
01:08:15is even more
01:08:16I
01:08:18I'm not gonna talk
01:08:20hi mom
01:08:32hi dad
01:08:32so when is the last time
01:08:34you guys saw each other
01:08:35it's been a while
01:08:37for some reason
01:08:38we're feeling this
01:08:39distance
01:08:40we are
01:08:41lying
01:08:43we have reason
01:08:45why we disconnect
01:08:46it's
01:08:46it's hard to explain
01:08:48try
01:08:49we are being
01:09:00it's been tough
01:09:05it's been hard
01:09:05it's been tough
01:09:06I will be safe
01:09:08we have a miscarriages
01:09:10oh joy
01:09:12that's just why
01:09:13I've been waiting
01:09:14so long
01:09:15aww
01:09:16but
01:09:16I am six months
01:09:20pregnant right now
01:09:22ah
01:09:22oh
01:09:23oh
01:09:23watch
01:09:24oh my god
01:09:25wow
01:09:26but
01:09:28I have a very high risk
01:09:30pregnancy
01:09:31and
01:09:31I never have
01:09:33panic attack
01:09:34I never have
01:09:34paranoid
01:09:35what I have right now
01:09:36and every day
01:09:37I wake up
01:09:38and I'm trying to
01:09:39feel kicking
01:09:40if I feel kicking
01:09:41I feel this alive
01:09:42Brendan's so excited
01:09:45to share this with people
01:09:47he want to say this
01:09:48I'm like
01:09:49I'm not
01:09:49because if you're gonna share
01:09:51if you're gonna be again lost
01:09:53no
01:09:55it's scary
01:09:57it's been challenging
01:09:58to get here
01:09:58you know
01:09:59it's
01:09:59it's
01:10:00you've achieved something
01:10:01it's scary
01:10:02to possibly lose something
01:10:04but
01:10:04I've been
01:10:05dying
01:10:05to actually tell somebody
01:10:07to get it out
01:10:08you know
01:10:08congratulations
01:10:10you and Brandon
01:10:11congratulations Julia
01:10:12yeah
01:10:13congratulations
01:10:14congratulations
01:10:14I think Julia needs a hug
01:10:16oh yeah
01:10:17she made me cry
01:10:20yeah
01:10:21oh
01:10:21oh
01:10:22oh
01:10:23oh
01:10:23oh
01:10:24oh
01:10:24oh
01:10:25oh
01:10:25wow
01:10:27and daddy
01:10:28are you
01:10:28shit
01:10:29you love it
01:10:30you love it
01:10:31you love it
01:10:31it's gonna be great
01:10:32it's gonna be great
01:10:33no worries
01:10:33it's a beautiful
01:10:34thanks bud
01:10:37thank you
01:10:41thank you all of you
01:10:44we love you
01:10:45we appreciate you
01:10:45sharing the news
01:10:46that look like
01:10:48I'm sick
01:10:48wait did you get a
01:10:51boob job
01:10:51or is this
01:10:52this is just her
01:10:53pregnancy
01:10:53just her
01:10:54pregnancy
01:10:54oh my god
01:10:55that's real
01:10:56oh oh oh
01:10:57oh my god
01:10:59that is real
01:11:00not like that
01:11:02not like that
01:11:03but
01:11:03they grew for a minute
01:11:05so Julia we know
01:11:06that you have
01:11:07wavered a bit
01:11:08between having kids
01:11:10and not having kids
01:11:12how are you feeling
01:11:13about your pregnancy
01:11:14tonight
01:11:15that's a very good question
01:11:17because
01:11:18I'm questioning myself
01:11:19what if
01:11:20I'm not gonna
01:11:21accept it
01:11:22what if I'm not gonna
01:11:23like it
01:11:23what if this kid's
01:11:24gonna not like it
01:11:25what if
01:11:26I have it so much
01:11:27what if
01:11:28have you thought about
01:11:28what if everything
01:11:30works out perfectly
01:11:31yeah
01:11:31oof
01:11:32get it Sean
01:11:33no
01:11:34that's never
01:11:35a factor
01:11:36think about that
01:11:37that's never part
01:11:39of the what is
01:11:39no
01:11:40aw
01:11:41you're stressing out
01:11:42too much
01:11:42but I think you're
01:11:43gonna be a good
01:11:43mother
01:11:43you are a good
01:11:44person
01:11:45and you're gonna
01:11:45be a good mom
01:11:46take a deep breath
01:11:48just relax
01:11:50enjoy it
01:11:51in my opinion
01:11:53what you're feeling
01:11:55and what you're
01:11:55going through
01:11:56it's so valid
01:11:56yeah
01:11:57let me tell you
01:11:59I don't know
01:12:00it touches me
01:12:00I thought you
01:12:06can't cry
01:12:07my friend
01:12:07we can cry
01:12:09about Nico
01:12:09all day
01:12:10aw
01:12:10I haven't been
01:12:11able to cry
01:12:12in a long time
01:12:13it feels great
01:12:16and you have
01:12:19not told
01:12:20your parents
01:12:21you have not told
01:12:22Brandon's parents
01:12:23no
01:12:23no
01:12:24we have arguments
01:12:25with his mom
01:12:26and now
01:12:26I doesn't
01:12:27know what I feel
01:12:28me and Betty
01:12:30relationship
01:12:31has become
01:12:32a lot
01:12:32and we doesn't
01:12:34spoke with her
01:12:35even we doesn't
01:12:35see his mom
01:12:37on her birthday
01:12:38I think she will
01:12:39forget about all
01:12:40of that
01:12:40oh yeah
01:12:41when she knows
01:12:42Mina just said it
01:12:42that's gone
01:12:44like I want to
01:12:45tell them
01:12:45to the first
01:12:46people
01:12:47I think we should
01:12:47have told
01:12:48but I want to
01:12:50do what I can
01:12:51to support her
01:12:52and not cause
01:12:54her any
01:12:54additional stress
01:12:55have you thought
01:12:56about any
01:12:57boundaries
01:12:58that you want
01:13:00to set with him
01:13:00let me tell you
01:13:01something
01:13:02last time
01:13:05in the house
01:13:06we have a sex
01:13:08and parents
01:13:08just come
01:13:09to the front
01:13:10door
01:13:11Brad have to
01:13:12rush to the door
01:13:14and smack the door
01:13:15oh my god
01:13:16your mom does
01:13:17the two
01:13:18so that is
01:13:21boundary
01:13:22what we are
01:13:23going to
01:13:23Brandon
01:13:25I really don't
01:13:26know what to
01:13:27expect
01:13:27can I ask
01:13:28everybody
01:13:29who thinking
01:13:29Betty will be
01:13:30trying to move
01:13:31on to our
01:13:31house
01:13:32when she knows
01:13:32this
01:13:33thank you
01:13:38I think
01:13:44you will want
01:13:44that
01:13:45because you
01:13:45will want
01:13:46some sleep
01:13:46take the
01:13:47help
01:13:48trust me
01:13:49Julia
01:13:50you know
01:13:51that Brandon's
01:13:52parents
01:13:53will be
01:13:53joining us
01:13:54in a few
01:13:54minutes
01:13:55them
01:13:55doesn't
01:13:56know
01:13:56anything
01:13:57we are
01:13:58have to
01:13:59lie to
01:13:59them
01:14:00we have
01:14:00to tell
01:14:01them
01:14:01a lot
01:14:02of lies
01:14:03you need
01:14:05the support
01:14:06honestly
01:14:07to calm
01:14:08you down
01:14:09so that's
01:14:10why I think
01:14:11you should
01:14:11tell them
01:14:12it could be
01:14:13amazing for you
01:14:13to just have
01:14:14that support
01:14:15around you
01:14:15I'm also in
01:14:16Virginia by the
01:14:17way
01:14:17I will happily
01:14:18do whatever
01:14:19you need
01:14:19I can be
01:14:19to your house
01:14:20in like
01:14:20two and a half
01:14:21hours
01:14:21you're not
01:14:23alone
01:14:24it's going
01:14:24to be
01:14:25stressful
01:14:25we're not
01:14:25going to
01:14:26lie
01:14:26you know
01:14:26when a baby
01:14:27is born
01:14:28it's going
01:14:28to be
01:14:28some
01:14:28night
01:14:29but you
01:14:29have a lot
01:14:30of help
01:14:30around you
01:14:31I'm not
01:14:32going to
01:14:33tell his
01:14:34parents
01:14:34no
01:14:34I still
01:14:34doesn't
01:14:35tell my
01:14:35parents
01:14:35either
01:14:36how often
01:14:37do you
01:14:37talk to
01:14:37your parents
01:14:38how do you
01:14:38talk to them
01:14:39yeah to your
01:14:39mother
01:14:40all the time
01:14:41every day
01:14:41yes
01:14:42call them
01:14:42now
01:14:43yeah let's
01:14:44call them
01:14:45I mean I
01:14:50would say
01:14:51we go
01:14:51for it
01:14:51no
01:14:53you want
01:14:55to call
01:14:56your parents
01:14:56do you
01:14:58want to
01:14:59tell them
01:15:00you want to
01:15:15call your parents
01:15:16do you
01:15:17I mean I
01:15:21would say
01:15:21we go for
01:15:22it
01:15:22no
01:15:23don't do it
01:15:36don't do it
01:15:49okay here we go
01:16:18do you
01:16:19do you
01:16:19okay
01:16:19let's go
01:16:22quiet you guys
01:16:23I don't know how to say congratulations in Russia
01:16:26поздравляю
01:16:27поздравляю
01:16:28поздравляю
01:16:29you can probably see like what the hell mommy did
01:16:31we got one
01:16:34привет
01:16:35oh we got two
01:16:36hi
01:16:38we позвонили вам
01:16:40хотят передать привет
01:16:41всем
01:16:41hi
01:16:42hi
01:16:43how are you
01:16:48can you hold the phone
01:16:49yeah
01:16:50can you
01:16:50one two three can you just say
01:16:52поздравляю
01:16:53right
01:16:53let's go
01:16:54okay
01:16:54one two three
01:16:56поздравляю
01:16:58что там
01:17:01вы будете бабушкой и дедушкой
01:17:04ты серьезно
01:17:07вы что ты мне
01:17:10я не верю
01:17:17до сих пор не верю
01:17:18they don't believe me
01:17:19one second
01:17:19let me
01:17:20oh wow
01:17:21let me just
01:17:22like show like this
01:17:24like this
01:17:26дедушка будущий
01:17:29нет
01:17:30она покушала просто
01:17:32поужинала хорошо
01:17:34и все
01:17:34why they say
01:17:35just eat a lot
01:17:36я так долго ждала этого
01:17:41что я теперь уже даже не верю
01:17:43я
01:17:43я очень рада
01:17:45юля
01:17:47а какой месяц
01:17:49them ask how many months
01:17:52угадайте какой
01:17:56четвертый
01:17:59шестой
01:18:01чего
01:18:03i understood that
01:18:07and i don't speak russian
01:18:08ой вообще
01:18:10ну все
01:18:11я теперь спать не буду
01:18:12что-то вы там заливаете
01:18:15нет
01:18:16сейчас есть фотографии
01:18:17я вам пришлю фотографии
01:18:19this is beautiful
01:18:21we're so happy for you
01:18:23where's the second pair of parents
01:18:27а мам
01:18:28пап
01:18:29мам
01:18:29мам
01:18:30не
01:18:31Бетти и Рон
01:18:32не знают
01:18:32да вы че
01:18:35так ну естественно
01:18:37я никому ничего говорить не буду
01:18:39все
01:18:39целую вас
01:18:40всем пока
01:18:41скажи спокойно
01:18:42я люблю
01:18:43тебе
01:18:43пока
01:18:44пока
01:18:44пока
01:18:45пока
01:18:45пока
01:18:45пока
01:18:46пока
01:18:46пока
01:18:47пока
01:18:47пока
01:18:47пока
01:18:48пока
01:18:48пока
01:18:49пока
01:18:50пока
01:18:51пока
01:18:52whoo
01:18:53that was fun
01:18:54for all of us
01:18:55to be a part of
01:18:56so
01:18:56two down
01:18:57and just
01:18:59two to go
01:18:59yeah
01:19:00are you ready
01:19:02for us to bring
01:19:02Ron and Betty
01:19:03into the conversation
01:19:04let's
01:19:07I will see
01:19:07I will see
01:19:08let's follow
01:19:10emotional
01:19:10I follow
01:19:11emotional
01:19:11with my parents
01:19:12let's follow
01:19:12emotional
01:19:13how I feel
01:19:13how it's
01:19:14let your heart
01:19:14be your guide
01:19:15you're doing great
01:19:16all right
01:19:18here we go
01:19:21let's bring on
01:19:23Ron and Betty
01:19:25Ron and Betty
01:19:28this is Sean
01:19:28how are you guys
01:19:29hi Sean
01:19:31hi Brandon
01:19:31Julia
01:19:32hi rest of the gang
01:19:33hi mom
01:19:34hi dad
01:19:34so when is the last time
01:19:37you guys saw each other
01:19:38it's been a while
01:19:40been a while
01:19:41I didn't get to see her
01:19:44for my birthday
01:19:44I didn't get to see her
01:19:45for Father's Day
01:19:46I do feel like
01:19:48there's been a distance
01:19:49like between us
01:19:50as of late
01:19:51you know
01:19:52and I really
01:19:52it's something
01:19:54I would like to fix
01:19:55well knowing the relationship
01:19:58that Ron and I've had
01:19:59with Brandon
01:20:00growing up
01:20:01and over the years
01:20:01we actually
01:20:02felt we had that
01:20:04with Julia
01:20:04we love her
01:20:05and she's family
01:20:07but for some reason
01:20:09we're feeling this
01:20:10distance
01:20:11and I don't want
01:20:13to make things worse
01:20:14I feel we have
01:20:16we still have
01:20:17like a lot of
01:20:18disconnection
01:20:19with each other
01:20:20but I
01:20:22I want to fix this
01:20:23I want to fix
01:20:24our situation
01:20:25I want to
01:20:26our connecting back
01:20:28did I want biologists
01:20:29yes
01:20:30did I want to back
01:20:31to connecting
01:20:32with parents
01:20:32yes
01:20:33that's all
01:20:34we've ever wanted
01:20:35and heaven forbid
01:20:37there's grandkids
01:20:39one day
01:20:40that come into
01:20:41a situation
01:20:41it's like
01:20:42they're our grandkids
01:20:44it's like
01:20:44it's part of our blood
01:20:47it's like
01:20:47it's us
01:20:48it's we want to be
01:20:49part of that
01:20:50and to push us away
01:20:51or to alienate us
01:20:52that would just
01:20:53totally break our hearts
01:20:54and even
01:20:57even in the fact
01:20:58that
01:20:59there aren't any grandkids
01:21:01Brandon
01:21:01is my son
01:21:02Julia
01:21:03as far as I'm concerned
01:21:04my daughter
01:21:04but
01:21:05you have to make
01:21:07this first
01:21:07gesture
01:21:09to reach out
01:21:10because we've tried
01:21:11and we feel like
01:21:12every time we've tried
01:21:14you've
01:21:14shut a door on us
01:21:16I just want to say
01:21:20it's
01:21:20we have reason
01:21:24why we disconnect
01:21:25it's
01:21:25what
01:21:26what we are being through
01:21:28it's hard to explain
01:21:29but
01:21:29I always
01:21:31most close
01:21:32in person
01:21:33like
01:21:33I most of
01:21:34hide
01:21:35everything inside me
01:21:37Brian Morris
01:21:38like
01:21:38he can share something
01:21:40but I feel like
01:21:41I can't
01:21:42try
01:21:44you gotta share it
01:21:48with us
01:21:48Julia
01:21:49we are lying
01:21:55we doesn't tell
01:21:57what
01:21:59next time
01:22:13on 90 Day Fiance
01:22:14happily ever after
01:22:15tell all
01:22:16no limits
01:22:17I can't wait
01:22:18for Georgie
01:22:18and Darcy
01:22:19I think he's
01:22:20outside in the streets
01:22:21of Miami
01:22:21acting up
01:22:22he's in the streets
01:22:23I think he's
01:22:24hitting the streets
01:22:24and not telling Darcy
01:22:26is what I think
01:22:26does anybody think
01:22:28that Georgie
01:22:30might have
01:22:30one foot
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