00:00Mukesh Kanna Ji, thank you so much first of all for speaking with Asianet News. This is a very
00:15somber day. We are talking on the day when Dharmeendra Ji is no more with us and I know
00:20that you've worked with him in a lot of movies. Tell me some of your memorable experiences that
00:25you've had with Dharmeendra Ji when you work with him in those movies. You see I can say in one line
00:30that he was bigger in near life than what he was on the screen. He was a real, like a person should
00:39be. I mean usually when you have lots of stars, there are a number of stars but you will hardly
00:47find somebody star who is also a human being also and he is the example of that kind of actor
00:55or a human being. He was humble. He was very, very compassionate. He used to talk to people.
01:02He used to, does not insult anybody. Very positive character. What was he on the screen? He was
01:10also on the real life. I had an opportunity to work with him for about five to six films.
01:15The Helka was one of the very big films where I lead him to a mission and I was just coming
01:23out of the Mahabharata. And I remember the incident with him that he, first he thought
01:29that he is a new boy and I was given the command. And I was a person who doesn't have one leg.
01:36He was, one leg was cut. Nobody knew how he used to. And then there was a sequence where
01:41I lead. I said, let me lead the mission. And then when I get the mission, he, he is called
01:47from back. He was a senior officer. And he, I'd lead the whole guy. Narsiruddin Shah, Jafri,
01:53Aditya Pancholi, they were all together. And, and, and we had a memorable experience in, in
02:00Manali. Uh, Anir Sharma was director. I, why I'm saying about this film, because this film
02:06gave me, uh, he also came to know about me. I also came to know about him. After that,
02:10I did about five films with him. And, uh, I rest, I remember one incident with him that, uh,
02:16uh, uh, when, when, uh, my leg is being, uh, is not there. I, I take out my, uh, my, uh,
02:24leg from the thing and I throw it on a, uh, bees. And then he sees this measure doesn't
02:29have the one leg and I'm climbing the mountain. And then he gives me a hand. And I said, I
02:34don't want anybody's hand. And I myself climb up. There he starts getting experience about
02:39this man that he has come for a mission. His daughter is there in the end of the sequence
02:44of the climax. They, they, they, I'm, I'm totally, they try to take care of me because
02:51my leg is totally infected. There's a totally gangrene over there. But when I get up from
02:57this thing that he's there fighting with Amrishpur, his gang and in hospital, and I say,
03:01what are you doing? I'm not important. The mission is important. He says, major,
03:05hum, aapko akela nahi chhod sakde. I say, I chhod sakde. And I convinced them and that, that
03:10I'm not important. Mission is important. Go, let me live. And then ultimately I convinced
03:15them to go down like this from the behind, window behind. And then Amrishpuri from their
03:22outers that blow off the whole hospital. And I'm fighting alone with them. And then they blow off.
03:27And all these five people standing downstairs, they salute the, the Ranjit Singh like.
03:33Why I'm saying this, this shows his nature that naturally he, he told Anil Sharma, the director,
03:40may vi karaan, may vi salute karaan. Big actor and a fresher. Anil Sharma said, aapke marzi, aap kare na kare.
03:50Somehow he didn't. Very funny thing. And, and then after six months of shooting with me in Manali
03:56and even in Bombay, Anil Sharma told me that he came and he said, Anil, Anil here may vi karaan.
04:03And one shot he gave in film city saluting me has this thing. That shows his character.
04:09Yeah, that shows how even after a lot of fame that he had, he continued to be, to carry such humility
04:17and to be so grounded. Yeah. Any life lesson Mukeshji that you learned from Dharminder?
04:23I'll, I'll give you an example of how he used to treat the fans. How he used to treat his people who used to come to meet him.
04:30Such a big actor. I remember I was shooting in Filmistan studio. That time there was no, no vans like vanity vans.
04:38We used to sit and, and I have a trunk and the chai and kept there. I was there. He was there. Four, three, four people were there.
04:45His bodyguard was there. And then suddenly a man came from somewhere. It was dark slightly.
04:50And he said, I'm a very big fan. I'm from Bengal. Can I hug you?
04:57No, this is very, very, very unusual request from a fan.
05:01From a fan. Haat samaj me aata hai. Autograph samaj me aata hai. But I'm api gale milna chata ho.
05:06And, and we were just looking and he got up. Dharam ji. And gale mila hans se.
05:13His, his bodyguard was attentive. Koi bhi ho sakta hai. You see, never know. Chakul lege a sakta hai.
05:18And then when he sat, I said, Dharam ji, I love this, this, this attitude of this nature of yours.
05:25You know what he said? Mokesh, piaar vando ge nahi, to piaar milega ka kaas hai.
05:31Saam.
05:32You see, kohon, kohon karta hai.
05:34Aaj, aaj, aaj, aak actor, bulletproof gadi mein ghoomta hai.
05:38Chara monster saath mein hoote hai. Dhakka dhukki mein mein bhi jata ho. Mere ko bhi monster diye jate hai.
05:43Mere ko bhi baonster diye jate hai. Mere ko botao shakti maan ko kya cheeze ro taap ki.
05:45But then they have, you know, they push everybody. And this man coming from nowhere.
05:49And then getting a reward of even gale milna. And nobody does.
05:54They can't even shake hands with the actor. They can't even.
05:59So this is one nature of this, which I always say, kitana bhi bada star ban jau ap.
06:04Aap human raho pehle. Bahut kam milengi aapko.
06:08Here was the actor who was bigger as a human being than he was an actor. He played in the beginning all roles.
06:20Then he played even action roles. Then even comedy. His face used to show the honesty.
06:26That is what I'm always saying that, ki agar aadmi honest hai toh achcha actor ho sata hai.
06:31But achcha actor ho sata hai.
06:33Even when he was in hospital, we saw a lot of videos of fans crying and so disturbed because of the health.
06:41This fraternity. I mean, a lot of young actors also coming in. They also draw a lot of inspiration from Dharmeendri ji.
06:47What do you have to say about that? Because he had, he had this legacy that he left behind.
06:53I will tell them learn from Dharam ji to be very consistent. Learn from Dharam ji to be very very honest with the work.
07:01Learn from Dharam ji to be a human being also.
07:06Hum hum bade bade actor ban jate hain then suddenly hum apne loog ko bhool jate hain aisa hain.
07:10It's a sate hain. It's a fagwada ghaa hain. I remember that he did.
07:27But he was handsome. He was rugged looking. And then learn from him how to be good with people in real life.
07:32but he was handsome he was rugged looking and then learn from him how to be good with people
07:39in real life also you become so big actor and if you write in your mouth
07:45then you become an actor so i have learned from him to be a good human being i would always say
07:50that that you don't get such an actor in our industry i don't see their eyes in honesty
07:56i don't see anything i don't see it he was an actor whose eyes are in this reason i will tell you
08:00that you will know what people think about Punjab
08:04bobby dale one time told me that i got out of his house and out of his house
08:11then there was a person on the second floor
08:13second floor of the bungalow
08:16he said who are you
08:18he said oh yes we came from Punjab to meet him
08:22so that man went up and opened the bungalow my father's bungalow
08:27was opened the bungalow my father's bungalow
08:28they came from Punjab and they came back to him
08:32and they were disrespecting and and this was
08:35dharam ji
08:36we had a security guard here
08:38we couldn't keep our shoes
08:40so one must learn from him to be a human being also
08:44you can become so big actor but you will be on the ground
08:48you will find a place on the ground
08:49you will find a place on the ground
08:53you will find a place on the ground
08:55this man was right at the ground
08:57if we talk about his acting he had a very large range i mean he
09:02did romance he did action he did comedy
09:06and he just thrived in every role that he did
09:10honestly again i would say it's honesty
09:12i have i've seen him working i've seen him
09:15getting involved and arguing with the director and then slowly i did dada with
09:21him i've seen him sitting and talking to director and cooperating with him now he
09:26did all kind of roles after sholey you must see that sequence where he on the tank top
09:33and he says he says he says i'll jump
09:37comedy and he he got the sur of the comedy
09:42from a he-man from an action man he became a comedy man
09:46you see other films after that he used to do so lovely in the comedy also
09:50song picturization he was not a dancer but but his his his dance style was his own style
09:57people used to still copy nobody can dance the way he used to dance yes he was not a dancer actor
10:03but when he does it he used to do it all romantic dances
10:06all his songs are hit and and one more thing i'll say
10:10is that even even sunny devil
10:13is that he's a big one of the 1.5 kg
10:18dharam ji dharam ji fight
10:19that was his image which he got it maybe again i would again repeat
10:41i think because he was honest with his work
10:44and honesty in my eyes you are a good actor
10:50if you are honest you can become a good actor he was honest that's why
10:52i mean in the beginning he was not a great actor learning from any school
10:56he was not from any any big family a raw man from this thing but
11:02his face on his face was a truth
11:03look at his work
11:05look at his face
11:07look at his face
11:09look at his face
11:11you should say talking,
11:31okay jakie did you get a chance to meet him when
11:34he was in the hospital and trying to recover
11:36Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good to tell you, because I went to his house six days before, after he was shifted to his home.
11:43I knew I wouldn't be able to meet him, but I met Sunny, I met Bobby, and I told Sunny very well.
11:50I played father of Bobby in Barsat.
11:53I told Bobby, I said, you made a body.
11:56He said, yes, I'm late. My father told me that you're late.
12:00And I told Sunny, he was a father.
12:04I mean, I had done the role of Dharam Ji.
12:07And then I said, he's very strong.
12:10I said, he's strong man. He will come out of it.
12:14But God is the one who calls God.
12:19Final words, Mukesh Ji. A lot of hearts are broken today.
12:23Not just friends and family, but fans also.
12:26What are your words to console them?
12:29I would say that you have a lot of love to Dharam Ji.
12:34Dharam Ji can see that they have a lot of love.
12:37They have a lot of love. They have a lot of love.
12:39They have a lot of love.
12:40You are the same as they want.
12:41Because there is such an actor who doesn't have anything in the cupboard.
12:44People don't have a skeleton in the cupboard.
12:47They don't show them.
12:48Dharam Ji was an open man.
12:50And if you are open, if you are in real life, you will follow me.
12:55You will be honest.
12:58Honesty will give you a lot of success.
13:01But when you give success, you will be a lot of success.
13:03And I don't know how to say that you will be acting.
13:07But as many struggles, I will say that if you are in real life and honesty,
13:11learn from Dharam Ji.
13:12That's why Manoj Kumar also said that Dharam Ji, Manoj Ji,
13:18and three actors were going to audition every place.
13:24And who did that?
13:26Manoj was very handsome.
13:28He was able to get a job.
13:29We didn't get a job.
13:30But they did struggle.
13:32But when he came out, he came out.
13:34Sathya Kaam, who is in the film,
13:37he looked like a rugged man.
13:39I always felt like a football player.
13:42I felt like that actor.
13:44He was handsome.
13:45Our actors like Dilip Skubar, Raj Kapoor, Devanand,
13:48his beautiful faces.
13:49His face was rugged.
13:51But I felt like he was a sportsman.
13:54And that worked for him.
14:00Well, I never would do,
14:01he was gracious.
14:02And whether he could do fitness or I would I figure scored.
14:04I wanted to teach his mom.
14:06I think he was aggressive.
14:07Even though he wanted to know his spirit,
14:09he wasn't interested in his spirit.
14:10He was invited together,
14:11I wanted to step back,
14:12and to think.
14:13He wasn't in the fight,
14:14he jumped off and to think he was teaching me,
14:15but he was really loyal.
14:16That's the task of his spirit.
14:17He was really ecstasy.
14:18He missed myself and she was certain things,
14:20he moved to me and he played.
14:21He was really well.
14:22Where did thatDon't let folks get ready.
14:23Not at the now.
14:25He what's doing his iPhone?
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