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00:00Alright, welcome to the after show. Hold on, I gotta pull up the definition of this word.
00:04It was the Cambridge Dictionary's word of the year.
00:09I love it.
00:11Oh my god, yeah, you love it.
00:13It's you.
00:14Wait, the word of the year meaning it's used a lot?
00:19Or it's just...
00:21Legit, I haven't heard it until now.
00:23Okay.
00:24Really?
00:25Yeah, but I get the description of it.
00:28Wow, you've heard the word? You've heard people use it?
00:30Yeah.
00:30What is it?
00:32Parasocial, which to me...
00:34Never heard of it.
00:35Not only have I never heard of it, it sounds like the opposite of what it is.
00:38To me, parasocial almost means like, I don't know, it's like another version of antisocial?
00:43I'm thinking introvert.
00:44Yeah, something like...
00:46I don't know, I just hear the word...
00:47Well, introverts may be parasocial.
00:49Yeah, I just hear the word like parasite or something in there.
00:53Oh lord.
00:53But basically, so...
00:56It's about having a connection.
00:58You feel like you have a connection between yourself and a famous person that you do not
01:05know, a character in a book, it could be a film, a TV series, even artificial intelligence.
01:11Oh god.
01:13Artificial intelligence?
01:14It could be any of it.
01:16Does it have to be a person?
01:17Like, what if I say I'm parasocial with the movie Wicked?
01:20Is that a thing?
01:21No, that doesn't mean to be...
01:22I don't know if it's the whole...
01:23I don't think, because it just means you like the movie Wicked.
01:25I think it has to be a character.
01:26Okay.
01:26Yeah.
01:26Like, if there was a certain character in there, then...
01:29Yeah.
01:29Okay.
01:30No, it's like...
01:31I'm gonna tell you right now.
01:32Like, this one.
01:33Yeah.
01:33I'm pointing to Pebbles.
01:34Yep.
01:35And her weirdness with the BTS dudes.
01:37Okay.
01:37It's not weird.
01:39It's not weird.
01:40Well, it's parasocial, apparently.
01:41Because you're thinking of it as...
01:45This is my guess of what you're thinking.
01:48You're thinking parasocial is the same thing as being, like, a stalker.
01:52And it's not.
01:53Well, kind of sort of...
01:54Having a weird obsession with...
01:56No, I think that, like, you imagine scenarios of, like, you hanging out with these dudes...
02:03Yeah.
02:03...where, like, it'll somehow work out and not be weird.
02:06It would be so weird.
02:09No, it would...
02:10No.
02:10Like, honestly...
02:11Okay.
02:12Okay.
02:13Where do you see...
02:14Where do you see you guys?
02:14You guys going on vacation together?
02:17I actually, with my BTS friends, we have, like, full-on conversations.
02:23Like, all right, if you had the opportunity to spend the day with each one of the members,
02:28what would you do with each one of them?
02:30And it's, like, a whole thing.
02:32I'm telling you.
02:33It's just...
02:34But see, this is the thing.
02:37Like, you always say, Romero, there's levels.
02:40Like, I'm not the woman outside of Jungkook's house trying to get in when he gets out of
02:46the military.
02:47Those people are just crazy.
02:48I'm more like, I'll watch him do his lives and watch him play video games for five hours
02:55or sing karaoke for three hours.
03:00Like, it's not...
03:02I mean, it is what it is.
03:04But, like, this came, by the way, from Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey.
03:09That's not where it came from.
03:10I know people are saying...
03:12They're using them as an example.
03:13Well, they're using it because they, like, feel like it's their...
03:16When they got engaged and she said, it's your math teacher and your gym teacher.
03:20People are kind of...
03:21You know what I mean?
03:22Like that.
03:22Okay.
03:23But let's go back to, like, what do you see yourself doing if you were...
03:28We're all in a group, right?
03:29We're all BTS fans.
03:30Oh, how are we going to spend the day?
03:32But it's not just that.
03:33It's not like I'm thinking...
03:35Like, do I think I will ever be hanging out with Namjoon?
03:39No.
03:40I don't think that.
03:42Would I love to?
03:43Yes.
03:44But it's more like you just feel a connection with another person.
03:51Does it have to be a person?
03:52What if it's an animal?
03:54Because I love...
03:55Listen, I love there's some animals I follow on social media.
03:59One of which I may or may not be buying a Christmas card to get a Christmas card from.
04:03This cat could be named Jiggy Jones.
04:05Well, let me Google that.
04:07Jiggy Jones?
04:08Jiggy Jones.
04:09Jiggy Jones is a miniature dwarf cat that I am obsessed with on social media.
04:14Okay.
04:15I can picture...
04:16Oh, you can understand that, but you can't with BTS?
04:19Are you serious?
04:20Because, like, I could...
04:22It makes more sense to me, Melissa picturing herself, like, owning Jiggy Jones.
04:27Oh, I would love Jiggy Jones.
04:28Like, daily.
04:29Although I feel like she's looking at Jiggy Jones like she's a fan.
04:31I mean, maybe this will help you understand Pebbles a little bit better.
04:34My mother was like that with Michael Jackson.
04:38She was like...
04:39She felt as though...
04:41She said it out of her mouth.
04:42If Michael...
04:43She felt that if her and Michael Jackson met, they would end up being, like, really good friends.
04:47I used to think the same thing.
04:50I swear to you.
04:51Michael Jackson?
04:52Yes.
04:52Oh, wow.
04:53I used to feel like, if I ever met Michael Jackson, I bet you we would be friends.
04:56Yep, yep.
04:57And, you know, the other person I used to think...
04:59This wasn't like I thought we could be friends, but I felt like I could help her out in life.
05:04Lindsay Lohan.
05:05I felt like if I ever met her during the time she was going through all that stuff, I would
05:10have been able to help her.
05:11Pebbles did...
05:12Yeah.
05:13Consistently.
05:13And you know what?
05:14Yes.
05:14That one I'm on board with.
05:16Yeah.
05:16Because I can see how the relationship would be.
05:19Hmm.
05:19You agree, though.
05:21I could have helped her, right?
05:22Yeah.
05:23100%.
05:23Yeah.
05:23100%.
05:24By the way, I just saw Freak Your Friday the other day with my kids.
05:26Oh, was it good?
05:27Because I'm dying to see that.
05:29It was...
05:29I loved the first one.
05:31I wasn't a huge...
05:34It went with the tempo of the first one.
05:36There was one part.
05:37The funniest part was...
05:39Because it was four girls.
05:41It was...
05:42The ones in the band?
05:44No, no.
05:44So it was Jamie Lee Curtis.
05:45Lindsay Lohan.
05:46Jamie Lee Curtis is Lindsay Lohan's mom.
05:48So Lindsay Lohan is a single mom.
05:50Yep.
05:51And it's...
05:51So her daughter.
05:52And then Lindsay and...
05:55She falls in love with, like, the parent of another student at the school.
06:01Oh, okay.
06:02And it's, of course, the student that the daughter hates the most.
06:05Right.
06:05And she's kind of like a bougie, like, girl from London.
06:08So she gets sucked in.
06:10So Lindsay Lohan becomes her daughter.
06:13And the bougie girl becomes Jamie Lee Curtis.
06:16And that's the funniest thing, because it's just her going, I look like my face is decomposing.
06:24Why?
06:25Why does everything hurt?
06:27I think I just peed myself.
06:29So it's like her, like, experience of old people's stuff.
06:31That was funny.
06:32That was funny.
06:33But other than that, it's like, it's that Freaky Friday, like, silly...
06:37It matches it.
06:38Like, I definitely wouldn't say it sucked or anything like that.
06:40Like, I wasn't a big Freaky Friday guy, but...
06:42Oh, I loved it.
06:43Yeah, but I ended up watching it, the whole thing, and I laughed.
06:46That, to me, was the funniest element.
06:49But yes, I definitely could see you helping me with that.
06:50You all have never...
06:53There's never been a celebrity that you felt like a special connection with.
06:56Yes.
06:57Whether...
06:57Leroy, let me ask you this.
06:59Like, through, like, their music or whatever, that you felt like there was some type of connection.
07:05Like, Tupac, yes, but not a connection where I felt like we were, I don't know, like, we would have been brothers or, like, you know, really close if we met.
07:19You would have ruined Tupac's fun.
07:20The only person I really feel like if we met, it would be hilarious and we would have a great time is Cardi B.
07:28See?
07:29I believe that.
07:30I can just...
07:32I don't know.
07:32It's weird.
07:33I look at Cardi B and I'm like, oh, my God, I would so...
07:36Her and I would be, like, oil and water because I definitely couldn't date her.
07:41And if she was the friend of, like, a girl I was dating, she'd be, like, the reason that me and that girl broke up because I'd be like, yo, your shit-talking friend is too much.
07:49I can't take her anymore.
07:50Oh, my God, because I grew up with girls like that.
07:53That's what she reminded me.
07:53I think that's part of it, too.
07:54I grew up with, you know, young ladies like that and I could identify with them a little bit.
07:59You know who else I feel that way with?
08:01Uh, Jocelyn Hernandez or whatever her name is.
08:04Oh, yeah.
08:04Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
08:05Do you watch her cabaret show?
08:07I can, like...
08:08Whenever I see her, I can see through all the mess that she's doing.
08:12I'm like, yo, she's got a really sensitive heart.
08:15And I feel as though if her and I were to meet up and we could be friends and I could get through to her.
08:20I don't think that's parasocial.
08:21It's not?
08:22I don't think so.
08:23Wait, so...
08:24We gotta really, really define it because...
08:27I could see that.
08:29That's what I thought parasocial was.
08:31But, like, do you feel like you have a connection with them?
08:34Like...
08:35I think so.
08:35Like, something about them you admire.
08:40There are things about them that, you know, you...
08:44I'm trying to think of the word.
08:46Jesus, it just, like, left my head.
08:49For some strange reason, I feel like the connection we would have is the reason why I believe that we would be great friends.
08:58I believe that...
08:59I don't know.
09:00I can't explain it.
09:00There's just a connection there.
09:02I can't think of anybody.
09:04I can't either.
09:05For me, it's more the opposite where I'm like, oh, man, me and that person wouldn't gel in real life.
09:10I would ruin a lot of people's images of themselves.
09:13Like, you don't think about certain celebrities who have made such an impact on your life that you feel like something, like, shifted in you.
09:25Or you feel like they've inspired you.
09:29Oh, yeah.
09:30Absolutely.
09:31Yeah.
09:31Yeah.
09:32That's...
09:32I mean, that's kind of how I look at it.
09:34I got one.
09:35Do you have one?
09:36No, because I humanize all celebrities.
09:38I'm like, oh, your shit, just like mine, stinks.
09:40No, and it doesn't mean that you look at them like they're some god.
09:43It's more like...
09:45Like, and you can accept their flaws or whatever.
09:48Some people...
09:49Like, some people do take it too far.
09:52But I think if you're, you know, keeping it...
09:57You're keeping it contained?
09:59Yes.
10:00Yeah.
10:01Like, the jar's full, but you have the screw top on.
10:05Mine is Diane Warren, the songwriter.
10:07Okay.
10:08I absolutely...
10:09I get that.
10:09I always felt like her and I would be friends.
10:13She just...
10:14So many things about her that I love, and she's always inspired me.
10:19Like, she's just so...
10:20And when she ever emailed me one day, because I have something I sent to her on Twitter,
10:25she emailed me a song she had just written that she hadn't sent to anybody yet and wanted
10:30my opinion.
10:31I literally almost had a heart attack.
10:33No way.
10:33Romero, I swear to God.
10:34Wait.
10:35You...
10:35Oh, wait.
10:36Maybe you weren't with us.
10:36So, nobody...
10:38I don't remember you.
10:38You don't remember that?
10:39No.
10:40Wait, wait, wait.
10:40So, nobody in her inner circle got this song, this random girl on Twitter?
10:44No.
10:45I'm sure people in her circle heard it, but it was something that she hadn't released to
10:49the public yet, and she wanted my help because she knew I worked in radio, and she wanted
10:53my help getting it out there.
10:54And it was a song that she recorded with...
10:56What's the guy that did that?
10:58It's been a long...
10:59Charlie Puth?
11:02Keep going.
11:02Not Charlie Puth.
11:03Keep singing.
11:04You know what I'm talking about?
11:05Keep singing.
11:06When I see you again for the Fast and Furious.
11:08No, no, no.
11:08Sing it, though.
11:08No.
11:08You only said four words.
11:10It's been a long...
11:11I'm like, uh...
11:12Four words that are literally used in every slow song.
11:14Never mind.
11:15Never mind.
11:16I think I still have her email.
11:19So, I was just looking at more stuff about parasocial relationships.
11:22And another term that's, like, that goes with this is, like, parasocial grief.
11:27Like, when...
11:28What you experience, like, when a celebrity dies.
11:31Okay.
11:32Like, in some people...
11:33Because, like, we see it all the time where certain celebrities die, and not that you don't
11:38care, but it's, like, it doesn't affect you in the same way when Chadwick Boseman died.
11:44Like, I felt like somebody in my family died.
11:46Yeah.
11:47It was crazy.
11:47It was crazy.
11:49Mmm.
11:49Mmm.
11:50Who was the last celebrity that died that affected me?
11:53Oh, you know what?
11:53I would say Hulk Hogan.
11:54I was like, yo, the Hulkster.
11:56But other than that, even when celebrities die, I'm like, eh.
11:59Rip.
12:00Mine was D'Angelo.
12:02I was like...
12:02I was like, dang.
12:04Like, I started instantly thinking about the time period when he came out, and all the memories
12:10and stuff, and I felt really bad.
12:12I felt bad for a few days.
12:14Mmm.
12:14If I think about it long enough, I'll be like, oh, man, not D'Angelo.
12:17I ain't, I've never met that man a day in my life.
12:20Oh, wow.
12:21And don't know anything about him.
12:22Tupac, too.
12:23Yeah, I'll be, yeah.
12:25How about this one?
12:27Because I have one in my head.
12:29Which celebrity currently, that when they pass, will affect you the most?
12:32Listen, nobody wants to talk about that.
12:34Well, I'm going to say mine's pretty much almost there as Barry Manilow.
12:37Oh, that's good.
12:38I might have to take a couple days off for that.
12:39Oh, that's good.
12:40That's going to be tough.
12:41Because I'm only saying that because he's very old, and he's not, you know, he's even
12:44doing, like, his farewell tour.
12:48Michael Jeffrey Jordan.
12:50Oh.
12:51Oh, shit.
12:52That'll be tough for a lot of people.
12:55Oh, damn.
12:56I mean, he's still got some years unless a tragedy hits him.
12:59Yeah.
12:59But, like, Arnold Schwarzenegger.
13:03All the guys to me who were, like, Sylvester Stallone, who were, like, legit, like, real
13:09life action toys come to life.
13:11Jackie Chan.
13:12Those three.
13:12They're all, like, almost 80.
13:14Malcolm Jamal Warner dying.
13:15Oh, that was tough, too.
13:16That was another tough one.
13:18Because that was a tragedy, too.
13:19Oh, my God.
13:19Not that they're not all tragedies, but that one was, like, an accident.
13:22Like, something that, you know, we didn't think they weren't sick or anything like
13:26that.
13:26It was.
13:27I ain't even talking.
13:28Nope.
13:28I ain't even.
13:29Why did my knees buckle when you said Michael Jordan?
13:32Like, now, like, I want to check on him.
13:34Because he's one of those that fits this.
13:36What is it called?
13:37Para?
13:37Yeah.
13:38Parasocial.
13:38Yeah.
13:39Inspirational.
13:40Looked up to him as a kid.
13:44Even just the way he played for me, it was, like, watching art.
13:48And I admired it.
13:50And a lot of us did coming up watching him.
13:52We went outside.
13:53We tried to be him.
13:54We tried to emulate him.
13:55We tried to walk like him.
13:57We tried to talk like him.
13:59All that.
13:59Yeah.
13:59Like, Mike.
14:00Nothing's weirder than a short guy like me trying to walk like a tall guy like Michael
14:04Jordan.
14:04Because, like, I don't have the limbs for it.
14:06So, it's like, I have to exceptionally make myself look like I'm limping almost.
14:10For me, I loved Magic Johnson and, like, how you feel about Michael Jordan.
14:19That's how I felt about Magic Johnson.
14:22And I remember when he came out and announced that he had HIV.
14:27Like, that.
14:28Because, like, because at the time, it was very different then.
14:31It was, you know, felt like a death sentence.
14:34It was a death sentence.
14:34It was a death sentence, right?
14:35And I was like, oh, my God.
14:37I was devastated.
14:39That was, whew.
14:40There was dudes that didn't want to play basketball.
14:42I remember Carl Malone was like, nope.
14:43Oh, yeah.
14:44Nope.
14:45Yep.
14:45That's crazy.
14:46Although, I met him.
14:47Carl Malone?
14:48No.
14:49Magic Johnson.
14:50Oh, Magic Johnson.
14:51I have a picture with him.
14:52You met the mailman?
14:54It's so stupid.
14:56Don't forget to like and subscribe, baby.
14:57Who do you have a parasocial relationship with?
14:59Let us know in the comments below.
15:00Bye.
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