What does it really mean to bring 'Heaven to Earth' in today’s fast-changing world?
In this Top News Podcast episode, we sit down with Chief Content Officer Warisan Ummah Ikhlas Foundation Fazrul Ismail to explore how Quranic guidance strengthens every part of life: our families, leadership, economy, communities and our spiritual resilience.
With Surah Al-Saff as this year’s focus for World Quran Convention (WQC), we explore how discipline, unity, integrity and purpose can shape a stronger and more resilient future for Malaysians.
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In this Top News Podcast episode, we sit down with Chief Content Officer Warisan Ummah Ikhlas Foundation Fazrul Ismail to explore how Quranic guidance strengthens every part of life: our families, leadership, economy, communities and our spiritual resilience.
With Surah Al-Saff as this year’s focus for World Quran Convention (WQC), we explore how discipline, unity, integrity and purpose can shape a stronger and more resilient future for Malaysians.
Catch the full conversation on all Sinar Daily social media platforms - Facebook, YouTube & TikTok. Don’t miss it!
#TopNewsPodcast #SinarHarian #FromHeavenToEarth #WorldQuranConvention #QuranicLeadership #SurahAsSaff #ResilientFuture #QuranLifestyle
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00:00Assalamu'alaikum and hello everyone this Thursday we are here with Ustad Fazrul Ismail
00:16Ustad Fazrul Ismail is the chief content officer for Wajisan Uma Ikhlas Foundation if you guys are
00:25wondering what that is you guys go google it okay but today we are going to talk about World
00:32Quran Convention that's going to be happening on December 6th and December 7th at Miti Convention
00:40Hall in Kuala Lumpur so it's at Jalan Duta I know you guys love Miti because a lot of huge events
00:46are happening there so among them is the World Quran Convention and our topic for today is
00:52from heaven to earth building a resilient future so Ustad Fazrul yes we are going to go with the
01:00first question what does from heaven to earth mean heaven is basically related to the revolution
01:06about Quran okay and earth is basically our daily life okay so we want to connect between what has
01:12been revealed by Allah by our creator to what's happening in our daily life okay so it's basically
01:19a reflection of yourself and how it relates back to the Quran true and this is what we want to bring in
01:27this convention basically to introduce the idea what's going on in our daily life reflected to what
01:34has been prescribed by Allah in Quran how we when we recite any of the chapter in the Quran we can see
01:42ourselves in the chapter itself oh nice so in terms of the in today's context
01:51some people might say you know Quran was revealed a long time ago and we always hold the belief that
01:56the Quran transcends years and generations and decades it's like masa they revealed to until today it's
02:04still relevant it's still real it's still real you know it's still a fraction of humans and God and our
02:10relationship with God so macam how would you say in today's perspective why is it important for us to
02:16understand it again you know because we do it every year work on a convention under every year right
02:21why is it important to keep on belajar keep on learning about it and keep on reflecting about it
02:29we want to be a good son or daughter to our parent right and by being a good person we need to understand
02:35what has been advised by our parents and same goes to our relation with our creator we need to understand
02:42what's advice being given and although it has been revealed 1400 years back but then we know
02:51the same God who created us the same God who revealed the wording for the prophet in the past the
02:58companions people in the past which they have problems in daily life and when they have the
03:05intervention from the heaven from a Quran they lead a good way of life and they bring up to the
03:11civilization and we want to reiterate or basically to to get back the civilization by referring to the
03:22Quran okay and why do we use the why do we use the resilience for the future because future is kind of
03:30chaotic we know about VUCA volatile uncertainty chaotic and ambiguity so how we want to ensure that our
03:40future is being in good care good condition it is only with the formula has been prescribed by Allah
03:50swt and this is what we aim in this Quran convention to introduce the interaction with Quran so that our
03:59our life is not only just by our desire or just by our wims to deal with all this uncertainty we want to
04:08have the guidance from that so basically the Quran is a guidance and reflect reflection self-reflection and
04:17connection with the Quran is also a way to secure our future right because otherwise people will react
04:23to whatever happened in their daily life and they use their own horizontal uh answer okay horizontal but
04:31we know everything is being observed by Allah swt he created us and he knows the answer for every
04:39task difficulty so in that case rather than react we want to reflect okay and I love the fact that we
04:47always see there's always that saying that says you know Allah won't put the burden or the pain or the
04:53challenges on that person if he doesn't know that he the person can go through it right can deal with it
04:59so when people feel a certain level of pain or experience certain level of anxiety or whatever
05:08um there is always an answer true and some people fail to realize what it is but would you say this
05:16would be a perfect opportunity for a lot of people out there to understand how things work yeah indeed
05:21uh for this program uh the the Quran convention we want to introduce to public um the solution is there
05:30um and also when we are tested with so many difficulty especially when we are focusing on the economic
05:37chaotic or uncertainty it is prescribed in Quran the answer but somehow uh for me myself maybe around 20 years
05:46back when i read Quran i just read in Arabic and i don't know the meaning behind it i don't know the
05:52answer to every question that i have i have the knowledge in my mind i have this question and question but
05:58sometimes if i have that question i don't know whom that i need to address or sometimes when i see
06:05certain uh ustaz or clerics as you say that if you question so much about your life your faith is kind of
06:11weak and so that disheartened me for to search for the answer but this is the opportunity for everyone
06:18um if you have any noise in your mind in your heart uh difficulty in life time to get to know Quran
06:26and get the answer yeah especially during these days kind of you know it's been what a year it has been
06:33the economy has not been the best maybe for some um the world has been in chaos
06:41i mean we have seen so many wars and destruction happening around and you're right like at the
06:46end of the day maybe it's just for you to step back and take a second and reflect right and on how
06:52and this is the best time because December is end of the year and we're headed into a new year
06:57so we can go in with an open mind and especially when we focus on surah as-saf yes it starts with
07:04all the universe the creation uh praising to allah subhanahu ta'ala tasbih is what we call when we pray
07:15when we do the uh the bow and prostration right subhanarabbial adhimi wabihamdi subhanarabbial
07:20ala wabihamdi certain individual of me myself in the past i i i i thought if i were to say subhanallah
07:28it doesn't mean anything okay but indeed if we reconnect with quran and try to do the reflection
07:35tasbih is one of the mechanism to compose awasah when we are in a chaotic vulnerable we don't know
07:42about the future of our economy our fate and so on and so forth doing tasbih is basically what
07:49had been done by the angels to be closer to allah subhanahu ta'ala and allah really asked us to do the
07:55tasbih because when we say all praise and allah is the most perfect right we really want to
08:05acknowledge the superpower and we acknowledge the solution from the creator who can help us and
08:13anything as long that we really want to get closer to the source of the uh solution the source of the
08:21the the problem rather than just uh do whatever we want okay all right so um i think you basically
08:27answer my next question tapi macam maybe you could encapsulate it how does surah al-saf provide a
08:33blueprint blueprint okay for a resilient future you've explained it just now but i think more in detail
08:39on what we can expect yeah actually when we praise allah subhanahu ta'ala normally when i talk about the
08:45horizontal uh intervention right we have problem economically in family in politics uh social and
08:53whatnot uh we tend to find the solution from what we know and from what the other people around us who
09:00know about the solution but the problem is those people um they don't know about the future yeah they
09:08know about the future it's only the one who know about the future is only our creator so when we say subhanallah in
09:15surah al-saf right when we practice it and it's not only about uh subhanallah in our tongue but also in
09:21our heart we acknowledge that allah is the most perfect uh the most um the most perfect in in in in
09:28daily life so we tend to have the the ability to see and reconnect to the heaven what we call heaven to uh to
09:40the earth right uh our heart really want the intervention from the heaven from allah subhanahu
09:46ta'ala from other dimension because future is not in our knowledge not from the other people
09:53is only from from allah subhanahu ta'ala so how do we how do we bring how do we bring the heavens into our
10:00daily life our practice our daily practices we read the quran and although we are able to read it in
10:07arabic or not we need to read the translation and the translation basically for those who are able
10:13to read in english read the translation in english because i get to know when i was in the states uh
10:18many uh non-muslim when they read the the translation uh that was in 2000 and the 9-11 thing uh in new
10:26york so they asked the muslim especially asking me i cannot answer the question that they had because they
10:32say that the muslim was the the terrorist and they say that in the surah muhammad in surah an nisa
10:39there are a lot of terrorist verses in the quran and they asked me even the fbi asked me about the
10:44question about that uh concern i i cannot i couldn't answer it because i didn't know the meaning at the
10:50time right so they searched for the the transition in the bounce and noble in the bookstore and many get
10:58back revert to islam because they find the answer in the book oh wow yeah a lot of cases after 9 11
11:06saw a lot of people converting to reverting to islam oh so you've been investigated by the fbi oh yeah
11:12because i was the uh the president of the muslim student association the international body in the
11:17university they asked for the membership of the um the club and so on and so on but i didn't give it
11:22because this privacy they need to connect the lawyer in the university but in the end it's about
11:28uh they want to provoke they want to know the the reality of the muslim and the book and the terrorism
11:34but then uh at that time i cannot answer it i try to search uh to learn arabic and to search for the
11:40answer and then until this point i think um reconnect with quran will bring much worse idea about life you
11:48where you were in the states when september 11 happened oh my god that must have been scary
11:53was it like how was how was the situation for for sorry where were you in the states i was in
12:00federal university in uh indiana oh indiana okay yeah so uh yeah uh not really for the uh muslim from
12:08asia because they like look chinese yeah but for those who have the beard the whatnot from the arab
12:13country they are really being uh buyers and uh what hate crime for the women who have the scarf they
12:20have been pulled out and so on and so forth some some of them um decided not to put their scarf on
12:27their head because they are danger so okay let's come back to the conversation here when you were living
12:35there right in a such a dangerous conditions towards islamophobia was crazy because of what happened
12:43so like at the time like how would you be practicing the heavens on the daily life basically when we
12:52uh trying to explain we communicate especially with our our friends from uh christian right they are
13:00prone to to to communicate uh uh offering help and they want to discuss and we exchange the information
13:08what we know with our limited knowledge at the time because i didn't go there to learn islamic
13:14knowledge i was doing my chemical engineering wow okay chemical engineering
13:19so uh based on the limited knowledge i need to explain to them and we had problem with our
13:26jewish community at the time okay because they really kind of hostile with the muslim but alhamdulillah
13:32with the christian friends and the other nation from other countries we are good to live our life
13:38and trying to explain and that is the opportunity the discourse the importance of discourse right
13:43communication and discourse i guess people don't know so they hate because they don't understand and
13:49they don't know and that's what our responsibility to explain and this world quran convention is one of the
13:55platforms the media so that for those who say that i i was i'm not arab i'm i didn't learn arabic in my
14:03high school in college and so on they can have the connection with the quran and this is kind of
14:10introduction especially when we focus on the economic life in quran yeah i love the fact that this year's
14:16seam is on economy and um economy economy and also financial resilience for the future and things like that
14:23because um people always say oh the quran is for religion for morals for beliefs if i don't have i
14:31i'm not that strong in my belief so much more so like but people forget that it's in every aspect of
14:37your life right like every single aspect how to raise your children how to talk to your parents and the
14:43most important is how to do business and how to do how to run the economy in fact uh and we're talking
14:48about the the command from allah in quran right for example uh we can talk uh economic and financial
14:55related to uh zakah for example for hajj because you need to prepare 15 000 in your account uh just to
15:02appeal for the hajj right yes exactly that is really direct about money but people doesn't think about
15:08some time when i was uh you interact with quran uh for example salah when we pray right sometimes we cannot
15:15connect between prayer and also economy yes but in fact when we want to pray we have our clothing
15:22yes we need to buy the clothing right we need to have money but more than that if you want to uh
15:27pray in congregation in the masjid masjid is not built by by by by what by free for free you have so much
15:35money to have the engineer the architect to plan the uh the the the the building itself so all those
15:42reflecting to the economy exactly but the economy is the medium to practice and do whatever commanded
15:51by allah it's it's so obvious but it's so blinded you know what i mean because people always oversee
16:01these minor items like people are like oh let's build a mosque and then when people start oh kita
16:06kena kumpul duit untuk bina masjid and people like why like and then some people are like oh ustaz
16:13nak jadi imam and then like you're supposed to pay the salary of the imam right and people like oh
16:17ni buat untuk agama like what people have to live people have to eat like where is the line like
16:23people always forget those things right sometimes people trying to uh what you call uh secularize the
16:29life from the command from allah they see that if they pray then they don't want to talk about money
16:35yes they want if you are religious you're not supposed to be so rich yeah yeah yeah but that is
16:41not the idea in quran if you don't have money you don't you can pay zakah you cannot go to hajj and
16:47this is the idea that we want to share in this world quran convention the idea of economy and how the
16:54muslim need to have the right idea from quran so that we can regroup reconnect and to support each other
17:01uh in term of economy so that our economy will raise up and we will be another nation who can we are not
17:09to to subjugate other country we are to help other people by being good in economy yes and how do you
17:18think like maybe maybe because we've discussed about all the economy and how it is interrelated with islam
17:25right yeah where maybe you could share like where does the quran points out about financial resilience
17:32importance of understanding how business works and how people just need to be responsible
17:40in managing their financial lives you know because a lot we know we see a lot of people like taking it
17:48lightly like tak bayar zakat or maybe like they don't understand like oh orang ni boleh bagi dia
17:55banyak duit dia boleh bayarlah zakat like i can't but i mean everything plays a role right like berkat
18:02um keberkatan and also um what do you call that word rezeki comes from where and things like that maybe
18:08you could share with us yeah the the essential one of the term of economy in quran is what we call
18:13risk right in the third verse of suratul baqarah the second chapter so allah says from what we have
18:22given the risk from allah they will continue to give and to spread up so there is the idea of economy
18:31in islam we are to to gain more wealth it's not for our own benefit because in the end we cannot eat more
18:39than one plate of lunch right we can just even if you get older then you will cut off half one
18:46fourth and so on and so forth so the idea of economy in islam uh compared to capitalism so that is one
18:53of the aspect that we want to discuss in the world quran convention normally when we do business when we
18:57gain salary from our employee or employer we tend to uh save and for the sake of ourselves right for our own
19:06benefit but in islam the more that we gain we are to share and distribute the wealth because that is
19:14how economy works when we spend when we share when we uh fulfill our responsibility for our family for
19:21our uh family members and the community uh then the the risk the the the wealth itself will be distributed
19:29and that will bring to the next level of uh improvement and that is one idea or one item in
19:36in quran about economy risk so when we are talking about risk for example certain individuals say that
19:41i don't i cannot do business because i don't have money that's the capital but in islam risk is not only
19:47about financial financial capital but we have the human capital we have we are we have the ability to talk
19:55for example to think to write uh whatever our talent we have our network for example that is considered as
20:04risk in islam okay so using the network for example uh abmb or grab they don't have the call right but
20:13they have the knowledge and they are networking about between those people who have costs and then they
20:20they have an economy of their own they have a e-hailing service company so that is the idea in quran we
20:28need to understand what risk allah give to us if we have less money but more knowledge more networking
20:34more energy we can formulate and and help others and share the economy together yeah wow that's that's
20:44amazing that's amazing and a lot of people tend to forget that nabi muhammad wasn't just a prophet like he
20:49was also a businessman right with his wife so that's another thing that's a whole other thing
20:54that we can talk about women but but in general what kind of leaders do you think we need when it
21:00comes to understanding the whole ecosystem of economy islam uh society in this world quran convention we aim
21:10uh for the leaders in the family the mom and dad if possible to be in this world quran convention so that
21:16they are able to understand the concept of economy that we need to uh to have the saving we need to
21:22invest but more than that the leaders in the the business line in the community the leaders in in the
21:30government and the private company they are the one that we really hope to attend this program so that
21:36they are able to understand the difference between islamic economy and also the capitalist economy which
21:46sometimes people when they dive into business or when they are they become leader sometimes they
21:53really apply capitalism economy maximizing profit maximizing the shareholder rather than to benefit most to
22:04the public so in this world quran convention one of the uh speaker dr imran alvi will talk about social
22:11enterprise okay so how you want to do business but it's not only about you but it's about social
22:19okay um maybe you could tell us like what can we expect at the convention like who are the speakers
22:25or what are the topics that we're gonna discuss uh main speaker in this program ustaz noman alihan from
22:31from the states and we have dr imran alvi so ustaz noman alihan will discuss about the concept of economy
22:37in islam in quran and dr imran alvi will focus on social enterprise because um people will see uh if
22:45i want to do business i want to have the optimum profit for myself but social enterprise is something
22:53that uh gain traction right now and in the time of prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam they didn't
22:58say it as social uh enterprise but mostly when they do nine out of ten of the sahabah who have been uh
23:05promised as uh into the paradise they are businessmen who really benefit to the social
23:12for example saydena osman he bought the the well uh from the jewish and then the well has been
23:18given to the public and that uh the the well itself the benefit the the revenue they become the the farm
23:28of uh deeds and that revenue being collected being managed well until this point become the hotel in
23:34medina so we can see how long the 1400 years because of the social enterprising uh mindset available
23:44in the past people in the century okay all right so um i think it's really cool for everybody to
23:53understand this because it's it's being overlooked but in general like what's your final message to the
23:59message to the people out there on why we have we have to go we should go and we should understand
24:06better how the system works when it comes to the economy and the people yeah um i would like to invite
24:14everyone to attend this program world quran convention because one uh we want to have the
24:20we want to rejuvenate we want to refresh our connection with the book with quran the first one
24:26the second one we want to observe the cool idea about economy in quran because all this while people
24:32will say that uh quran islam is about what about paradise about the hereafter and not about this current
24:40living world but in fact if we make the doa rabbana atina fid dunya hasana when we
24:48succumbly uh we do the tower in in qa'bah right we read that verse why because we ask for the goodness
24:56not only akhira but also in this world atina fid dunya hasana so uh having a good life in this world
25:04having a good business good uh risk from allah is essential in the doa and hopefully when we and
25:13all of our friends here who are um watching the the the this life hopefully we can appreciate economy
25:21and how allah really teach us how to be good hasana in this world and hopefully that risk will
25:29sustain until the hereafter will be given the mercy to be in the paradise yes hopefully so hopefully so
25:38i think uh one more thing is the fact that it's actually it's actually very easy to go to paradise
25:46you just have to understand how to get there yeah and a way to understand is by joining us at world
25:54quran convention right so december 6 and 7 and meety at jalan utah kuala lumpur we will see you there
26:03you can buy your tickets online dekat mana world quranconvention.com okay world quranconvention.com
26:11and i'll see you there i'll be there ustaz will be there everyone's gonna be there let's have a good
26:18understanding before the year ends on how money and wealth and the economy works in the islamic
26:26world and in the quran and how we can bring heaven to earth in our daily lives and let's just be better
26:34for next year okay insha'Allah uh this is top news today i'm tasim loman from sinar daily and this is
26:40ustaz faizul ismail from if you've noticed he's actually from quran hour juga you can see him there
26:48our sibling company our next door neighbor uh there by the sinar so thank you so much guys make
26:54sure you follow sinar daily and world quran hour sorry world quran convention and quran hour punya
27:00instagram and social media platforms and tiktok and we'll see you there amin and thank you so much
27:06ustaz for joining us i i love this conversation i hope to have an even greater conversation on
27:12december 6 and december 7. okay bye-bye assalamualaikum
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