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00:00Dailene se despeared de la superficie de la tierra.
00:13Nos amamos Dailene mucho y queremos que él.
00:16Carlsen fue last seen leaving a bar, luego comprando en una barra.
00:21En el bar, uno de los hombres puso su mano a Dailene y Dailene puso él.
00:26Nosotros tenemos una barra llena de posibles suspecciones.
00:31Nos dijo que iba a casa por él mismo y que se ve en vídeo comprando una botella de alcohol con Dailene.
00:38Él es la última persona a ver. Eso es todo lo que tenemos en este momento.
00:42Nos queríamos saber dónde Dailene estaba.
00:44Eso fue la raíz de todo.
00:46¿Dónde está?
00:52Cada suspección acudado de un crimen tiene el derecho de permanecer silencio.
00:56Muchos acudieron a ser interrogados de todos modos.
00:59Pero pueden dejar la entrevista en cualquier momento.
01:02Haciendo que es una ruta contra el tiempo.
01:06La justicia se mantiene en el balance.
01:08La justicia se mantiene en el caso de Dailene Carlsen.
01:27La justicia se mantiene en esta barra y no volvió a casa.
01:33Dailene decidió que ella iba a ir a una barra local llamada Finnegan's.
01:41Y ella tenía planos para reunir algunos amigos allí.
01:46Dailene's aunt and her cousin heard from her a little bit through the night.
01:49Her plan was to come home.
01:51Y entonces Dailene never showed up.
01:52My understanding is that Dailene communicated with her family very consistently.
02:01And if Dailene said, hey, I'm going to be home, then she would come home.
02:04So the fact that she had not communicated with those folks at all, that was extremely alarming.
02:19Dailene Carlsen was full of life and energy.
02:23She was from Sandpoint, Idaho, loved to explore, kind of a free spirit.
02:30She traveled to the United States with a magazine crew from city to city,
02:34trying to get subscriptions for a variety of magazines.
02:38So she was a person that was, I think, looking for her way in the world,
02:43but definitely enjoying her life.
02:45When Dailene Carlsen moved to Stockton, she moved in with her aunt and her cousin.
02:53And she decided she liked the community so much that she wanted to stay
02:56and she wanted to go to college here.
02:59Dailene had never gone missing in the past.
03:01So the fact that she seemingly just disappeared off the face of the earth,
03:06it did seem exceptionally unusual.
03:10If they know anything, it doesn't matter how little it is.
03:14That if they would please come forward, contact the police department.
03:19She's a very quiet person, but once you get to know her, she's just bubbly
03:23and she just wouldn't have hurt anybody or anything.
03:27We love Dailene so much and we want her home.
03:44Her cousin said that Dailene had recently broken up with a boyfriend, Jacob Evangelisti.
03:53I think Jacob had had some feelings about that.
03:57He wanted to remain in a relationship with Dailene and Dailene did not.
04:00Part of the same kind of social network was Jason Gilley.
04:06Dailene and Jason were just friends and Jason's home was kind of the party place.
04:12We learned that these young men were at the bar.
04:15Jason was there and Jacob was there.
04:18And given the circumstances, that certainly caught our attention.
04:22So, we want to talk to the ex-boyfriend, Jacob,
04:28because he has a reason to want to maybe get back with her or maybe he's upset.
04:35Jacob was very willing to talk to us and Jacob insisted that he knew nothing about Dailene's disappearance
04:56and that he was more concerned for her than anybody was.
05:00And he seemed to be very transparent and very honest.
05:03And the sense was that he was telling us the truth.
05:26Jason told us that he was at the bar and that he saw Dailene there and that the two did hang out.
05:33And that they were being friendly.
05:35And as the night went on, he got a text or a call from his grandmother
05:40who relayed that Jason's son was sick and that Jason needed to come home.
05:46So, according to Jason, he went to the car and he left by himself
05:51and went straight home to take care of his son who was ill.
05:53Jason told us that when he left, Dailene was still partying at the bar
05:59and he had no idea what her plans were from that point on
06:03because he went straight home and didn't see Dailene again.
06:05So, there was one camera angle in the hall near the restrooms
06:20and in that particular angle, you're able to see that Dailene is kind of milling about with a group of men.
06:29And at one point, you see one of the men put his arm around Dailene
06:36and Dailene kind of brushes him off and then steps away.
06:41And when that person who tried to kind of bring Dailene in for a hug turns around,
06:46we're able to see that it's Jason Gilley.
06:48So, watching the video and really dissecting it in all the different angles,
06:54what we saw was at the very end of the night,
06:57Jason left at 12 minutes after 1 a.m.
07:01and walked out of view of the camera
07:03and then Dailene left three minutes later,
07:05also right out of view of the camera.
07:08They left not necessarily right together,
07:12but in very close proximity in time.
07:18By way of text message,
07:33we learned that Dailene's plan was to leave the bar with Jason
07:37and then go to the store and get a bottle of Jägermeister
07:43and continue the party at Jason's house.
07:45Jason said that he was not with Dailene.
07:48So, of course, the text messages caused more questions for us
07:52than we had answers to at that time.
07:55Because we had the information that they were reportedly
07:58going to go pick up a bottle of Jägermeister,
08:01we just looked at what a logical route would be
08:04from the bar to Jason's home,
08:06you know, what liquor stores were along that route.
08:09And so we visited several of those type of locations,
08:12which ultimately led us to a local grocery store
08:15that did sell alcohol at that hour.
08:20And through that visit,
08:22we were able to obtain surveillance footage
08:24of a couple of young folks buying a bottle of alcohol.
08:29And the surveillance footage was not great.
08:32But when the two went to the register,
08:35ultimately we end up identifying Jason and Dailene.
08:44We knew that Jason was not telling us the truth
08:47simply because he told us that he went home by himself.
08:51And that he is seen on video
08:52buying a bottle of alcohol with Dailene.
08:54Okay, Jason's lying to us.
08:59Why is Jason lying to us?
09:00That's the question.
09:15Jason was not present.
09:17He actually was out of town.
09:19So we spoke with his grandmother.
09:20And we specifically asked if she told Jason
09:25that he needed to come home
09:26because Jason's son was sick.
09:28And his grandmother looked at us
09:30in a kind of a puzzled way
09:32and said, no, I don't, I never did that.
09:34I don't know what you're talking about.
09:38During the search warrant at Jason's home,
09:41there were several key pieces of evidence
09:44that were located.
09:45First and foremost, we found women's underwear
09:47in Jason's bedroom,
09:49which were obviously out of place.
09:51And we also found a certain amount of marijuana
09:54in Jason's home,
09:56enough to build a case.
09:57He possessed it for sale.
09:59It was ultra clear
10:01that Jason was not being honest
10:03and that we now had enough
10:05at least based on the possession of marijuana
10:07to take him into custody on that
10:09and have a very direct conversation with him.
10:12So on August 14th,
10:14Jason was located
10:16and he was arrested
10:17and was immediately taken into custody.
10:19Sorry about the wave, man.
10:32I don't know.
10:34You're unlike you.
10:35You're like, we keep saying
10:36we've got so much stuff.
10:37It's crazy.
10:38Well, we appreciate your cooperation,
10:48by the way.
10:49I said that.
10:49It really helps.
10:50I mean, you know,
10:51we really...
10:52I understand it's all procedures.
10:53Yeah, no, we appreciate it.
10:54I mean, all you're doing
10:55is helping us.
10:56I'm excited about my room upside down.
11:00We're not worried about weed or whatever.
11:01I'm just curious.
11:03What is a little sack like that?
11:04What does it cost?
11:06I've been getting $10 for him.
11:07$10 per?
11:08Yeah.
11:09I'm not really trying to make money off it.
11:11Just kind of smoke for three kind of thing?
11:12Yeah, pretty much.
11:13Okay, so now going back to Saturday.
11:16Saturday.
11:17It was a long, boring day.
11:20So I think I did some yard work.
11:22I can't quite remember.
11:24You went to the bar at what time?
11:25I would say, again, 9 or 10 if.
11:29It's about the time I show up.
11:30I wanted Jason to lock himself into a statement.
11:34If the statement was going to be absolutely the truth,
11:37that would be great.
11:38If he chose to continue to stick to his story
11:40and tell us more lies,
11:42we were going to let him do just that.
11:43I do remember playing beer pong,
11:48drinking some beer.
11:50I've seen her dating there,
11:53and I've seen her, like I said,
11:55bouncing around 20 before.
11:56She was bouncing around.
12:00About, I would say, a little bit before 1,
12:03my grandma texted me, said,
12:05hey, how are you busy?
12:06Can you come home and take care of your son?
12:09All right, I will.
12:10And then where do you go?
12:11Straight home.
12:12The thing that we want most is a full confession.
12:20A very close second to that
12:21is a statement that's riddled with lies.
12:25And in that interview room,
12:27Jason continued to lie.
12:28We just want our home safe.
12:46I just want my family to, you know,
12:50have peace and my aunt get her daughter home.
12:53Everybody has their own kind of nuances
13:13as to how they speak, how they act.
13:15And I was just kind of getting a read on who Jason is
13:21and how he would generally communicate
13:23so that we could then identify behavior changes from that.
13:27And that's really what we're looking for
13:28is what that behavior change is.
13:29So what do you think about all this stuff
13:34and everything that's floating around?
13:36Honestly, I don't even know.
13:38I know it's not good.
13:40It's sad.
13:41And I don't feel like there's no thoughts on that.
13:45What do you think happened?
13:48I'm thinking she left with somebody
13:49and hopefully she's just stuck somewhere.
13:52Hopefully she's all right.
13:53But I don't have no idea what happened.
13:57No idea.
13:59Have you tried, since you found out she went missing,
14:01have you helped out, like, to try to find her?
14:04I was going to print out some flyers,
14:06but my printing was out of ink.
14:08Try calling her or texting her or anything?
14:10I tried calling her, but just calling her dead.
14:13Go straight to Westman.
14:15When did you try calling her?
14:17Oh, gosh, I couldn't hear.
14:18I never wrote the ad was.
14:19Well, I mean, has it been kind of repeatedly?
14:21No, I tried one time.
14:22Oh, just one?
14:23Plus, everybody else, like, oh, yeah, her phone's off.
14:25He was so nonchalant about, oh, yeah, I don't know.
14:28Maybe she's stuck somewhere.
14:29I hope she's OK.
14:30That doesn't make sense to me.
14:32For most adults, if something happened
14:35to one of their friends,
14:36they would do everything they could
14:37to try to help locate that person,
14:39particularly in the context of this case.
14:42Is there anything else you could think of?
14:45Anything that you could think that would help us out?
14:48I don't, I'm not one to point fingers,
14:50but Jacob was just standing down on it.
14:53I'm watching her every little move.
14:56What I kind of understood,
14:58and maybe I misinterpreted,
15:00this was pretty much she broke up with him.
15:02I don't know if it was mutual,
15:03or if he broke up with her or she broke up with him.
15:05I just know she was all excited
15:08about being apart from Jacob.
15:09Honestly, she was all excited.
15:11About being apart from him?
15:12She's like, I'm done with him.
15:14So glad it's over.
15:15I don't know why I see it in him.
15:16And every time I looked for his direction,
15:18he was standing at her.
15:19Okay.
15:19So, I don't know.
15:21I noticed that.
15:23He immediately went to deflecting,
15:26bringing up reasons.
15:27Oh, she was drinking.
15:29She was talking to a lot of guys.
15:31Jacob was staring at her.
15:32You know, that's the ex-boyfriend.
15:34So, when people start deflecting,
15:36they're hiding something.
15:37And our goal is to know
15:39what they're hiding and why.
15:41You know, we have, uh...
15:42Here's the thing.
15:44Yeah.
15:45Yeah, same as you guys.
15:50So, nothing else you can think of?
15:52Anything you want to add on the timeline?
15:55Anything you want to...
15:56You know, that you think
15:57that maybe you made a mistake
15:58when you're telling us?
16:00No.
16:01Something.
16:03Okay.
16:03Something I can think of.
16:04Okay.
16:05We have a ton of, um,
16:07resources that we use.
16:09Right.
16:09Investigative tools, um,
16:11that we use.
16:12Yeah.
16:12And, um,
16:14there's some inconsistencies
16:15in your story.
16:16Okay.
16:19And we want you to
16:20clear this up for us.
16:21Really horrible times.
16:22Okay.
16:22That's okay.
16:23That's all right.
16:24And, and, and you can't expect us...
16:26We don't, we can...
16:27We don't expect you to know
16:28every minute of what you did.
16:30That's not reasonable.
16:31It's not reasonable.
16:32Okay.
16:32But that's the good thing
16:34with, um, surveillance,
16:35video surveillance
16:36at different locations,
16:38the cameras,
16:39there are other intersections,
16:41and as such.
16:42So, you don't,
16:43we don't have to account
16:44for your time,
16:45but these things,
16:46they do take their time stamp.
16:47What we can see is literally
16:50the wheels begin to turn
16:51in his head, right?
16:53And him beginning to recount
16:55where might I have gone
16:56that they might have
16:58surveillance footage.
16:58So, we need you to be completely honest
17:04with us because we know,
17:05we know a lot more
17:07of what's going on.
17:08Right.
17:09Okay?
17:10And this is your opportunity
17:11to be completely honest with us.
17:12And we need you to be honest
17:14because we, we know,
17:15we know a lot of information.
17:17What you see
17:18is him kind of shift
17:20in his chair.
17:22And that's a classic tell
17:24of somebody who's beginning
17:26to feel very uncomfortable.
17:28Jason is beginning
17:29to connect the dots
17:31that we certainly know more
17:33than we revealed
17:34to him originally.
17:35and his body language
17:38said so much more
17:39than his words did.
17:55So, Jason,
17:56let's stop goofing around.
17:57Let's stop playing games.
17:58Okay?
17:59Because we know
18:01that there's a whole lot more
18:02to this story
18:02and this is not the time
18:05for games.
18:05We just need you to be honest.
18:06This is a big deal.
18:09Any investigator knows
18:10if somebody is talking,
18:12you're making progress.
18:14It might be very,
18:15very slow progress.
18:17And even if he's going to lie,
18:18the fact that he's talking,
18:19if he's talking,
18:20we're on the right path.
18:24You're in a good position
18:25to help yourself right now.
18:27Okay.
18:28So let's, let's really,
18:29let's really consider
18:30some questions
18:31and really,
18:32let's really consider
18:32the answers that you're giving
18:33before we go further
18:35down the road, Jason,
18:36because I don't want you
18:37to waste this opportunity
18:39that you have right now.
18:41Okay.
18:41To be honest with us,
18:42because...
18:43I'm trying to,
18:44I'm trying to,
18:44I'm trying to,
18:46I can't,
18:46I mean,
18:47I understand,
18:48I don't know what you guys know
18:49or anything, but...
18:50Jason,
18:51we know a lot of stuff.
18:53Okay.
18:53And we need you to be honest.
18:55Please don't waste this opportunity.
18:56Because this is,
18:57this is serious.
18:58Okay.
18:59So don't,
19:00don't do that to yourself.
19:02Me leaning in
19:02and putting my hand
19:03on his forearm there
19:05is a way for me
19:06to try to connect with him
19:07because humans
19:08like that human touch.
19:10And if that need
19:11is being met
19:12in this way,
19:13then there's a higher likelihood
19:15in my experience
19:16that somebody's
19:16going to continue to talk.
19:18So let's start over.
19:20So on Saturday,
19:23okay,
19:23what time do you get to the bar?
19:24I got to the bar
19:26probably 10,
19:2810, 15.
19:29Okay.
19:29I was there
19:30until probably 1 o'clock.
19:31Okay.
19:31And,
19:32and what happened at 1?
19:33At 1 o'clock,
19:34I left.
19:35Because what?
19:36Because of my son.
19:37Okay.
19:38So I went home,
19:39made sure my son was all right,
19:41and that was it.
19:42Let's talk about,
19:43um...
19:44Let's talk about your grandma
19:45and the text first.
19:48Grandma and the text.
19:52Because when we were out there
19:53on Thursday night,
19:53I spoke to your grandma,
19:55and I spoke to her
19:55in detail about that.
19:56Right.
19:57About your son being sick
19:58and all that,
19:59and she explained
20:00what she did or didn't do.
20:03Right.
20:04And it doesn't,
20:05it's not consistent
20:06with what you're saying.
20:08So this is your opportunity
20:10to straighten it out for us.
20:12She didn't text.
20:13You're right.
20:14She didn't.
20:14You're right.
20:15I had just my phone.
20:17Okay.
20:18Why did you,
20:18why did you not tell us
20:20the truth about that?
20:21Well,
20:21to them.
20:22What's the purpose of it?
20:25There is no purpose.
20:26Well,
20:26listen,
20:26people don't lie to the police
20:28for no reason,
20:29Jason.
20:29And we asked you multiple times,
20:31and you gave the same lie
20:32over and over.
20:33And,
20:34you know,
20:35that,
20:35that...
20:35I was texting a lot.
20:37I was,
20:37you know...
20:38Who else were you texting?
20:39I honestly could not remember
20:41who I was texting.
20:42His brain's going
20:43800 million directions,
20:45and he's trying to come up
20:46with a new strategy
20:48because he knows
20:49his whole statement is,
20:52I left to see my son.
20:53Well,
20:54that's no longer true.
20:55So now,
20:56they're just going to keep
20:57chipping away at him
20:58and have him keep
20:59contradicting himself,
21:00and then hopefully,
21:02each time,
21:03he'll reveal a little bit
21:04more of the truth.
21:08So why did you decide
21:09to leave the bar?
21:11Because I wanted
21:11to go home to my son.
21:12Okay.
21:12So who did you leave
21:13the bar with?
21:14No way.
21:14I left by myself.
21:15And where did you go?
21:17I went home.
21:18From the bar
21:19directly to your house.
21:20Didn't make any stops.
21:22Stopped nowhere.
21:24Wait a minute.
21:24Wait a minute.
21:25Wait.
21:25Wait.
21:25Wait.
21:27Excuse me, Jason.
21:28I left the bar.
21:29Okay.
21:29Hold on.
21:30I left the bar
21:31with D-Lene
21:32and took food for us.
21:34I bought a bottle
21:35of air for her,
21:36dropped her back
21:37off at the bar.
21:39And then...
21:40Now,
21:41now,
21:41why,
21:42why would you
21:42lie to us about this,
21:44Jason?
21:44I just remembered
21:45that I went to food for us.
21:47But that's,
21:47that's pretty important.
21:48Jason,
21:49you did have been
21:49very detailed
21:50on everything to us.
21:51Jason,
21:52and you...
21:52This is...
21:53No,
21:53I understand.
21:54It's not something
21:55you forget,
21:55Jason.
21:56It was just so
21:57obviously fabricated
21:58that he just
22:00happened to remember.
22:01Oh, gosh,
22:01thank you.
22:02Yeah,
22:02I forgot,
22:03but yes,
22:04now I remember.
22:05This is not something
22:05you forget.
22:06I understand.
22:09So,
22:10so let's talk about this.
22:11This is serious.
22:12It slipped my mind.
22:13I'm serious.
22:14I don't think it did,
22:15Jason.
22:16As a matter of fact,
22:17I'm quite certain
22:17it didn't.
22:18Okay?
22:19There's a whole lot
22:20more to this story
22:21and all these questions
22:22that we sat in here
22:22and asked you,
22:24we obviously knew
22:24the answer.
22:26That was not
22:27a slip of the mind.
22:28That was a lie.
22:29There's a big difference.
22:30It was a lie,
22:30correct?
22:31Yeah.
22:31Why?
22:34Scared.
22:35Of what?
22:37Because I know
22:37she disappeared
22:38around the same time.
22:39So,
22:42so why would you
22:43be scared about that,
22:43Jason?
22:50Jason clearly
22:51wasn't going to
22:53volunteer
22:53any more information.
22:55So,
22:55it seemed obvious
22:56that we needed
22:57to pivot
22:58on our strategy
22:59to confront him
23:00with facts
23:01about his lies.
23:04Ultimately,
23:04we wanted to know
23:05where Dalene was.
23:07That was at
23:07the root of it all.
23:08where is she?
23:11Most important
23:12is we need to get
23:13Dalene back
23:13to our family.
23:15Right?
23:16So,
23:17you're going to
23:17help us find her.
23:19I don't know
23:20what I'm going to do.
23:21I'm sure you do.
23:25Jason,
23:26I'm sure you do.
23:30I'm sure you do.
23:38Why would you lie to us
23:49about having gone
23:51home by yourself?
23:53Slip my mind.
23:54Sorry.
23:55Okay.
23:55What else
23:55slipped your mind
23:56until right now?
23:58What else do you want
23:58to change about your story?
24:00This is your chance.
24:02Jason,
24:02use this opportunity.
24:03Let's talk about
24:05your conversation
24:06with Dalene
24:07leading up to
24:08going to Food for Less.
24:12I had an offer.
24:13I said,
24:14do you want to come back
24:14to the house
24:15and trash on the couch?
24:17She said,
24:18okay,
24:19it's not too cool.
24:20I'll give you a bottle.
24:24I had changed my own plan.
24:25I had bottled the bottle
24:26still and went home.
24:28And why did you take her?
24:29I took her back to Fence.
24:30She was with me
24:32and I dropped her back
24:32off at Fence
24:33all the way back
24:34to my house.
24:36So you dropped her
24:36back off at the bar?
24:37Yes.
24:38You sure?
24:41Shortly after one.
24:43Just be left
24:44a little bit before one,
24:45maybe right at one.
24:47You sure?
24:48What did she do
24:49when you dropped her off?
24:50She walked into the bar.
24:52That's weird.
24:53Jason,
24:54you know what's weird
24:54about that?
24:57You know what's really
24:57weird about all that?
24:59There's a
24:59a lot of people
25:00at Fence.
25:01There's cameras everywhere.
25:05Guess what they caught
25:05at Fence?
25:07After we,
25:08because we saw
25:08you guys live together.
25:10Or come back
25:11into Fence?
25:13Jason?
25:14There's no surveillance
25:14of them.
25:16And there's surveillance
25:17everywhere.
25:18We sat and we watched
25:19hours of footage.
25:20Jason?
25:21Jason?
25:24Okay?
25:25You guys went home
25:26to your house?
25:28No, no.
25:29Jason,
25:29let's quit
25:31around, Jason.
25:32I'm about
25:33done with it.
25:34Got it?
25:35I'm about
25:35done.
25:37Do I need a lawyer
25:38or something?
25:39I mean,
25:39you guys are
25:39going to yell at me.
25:40I don't understand.
25:40Jason, listen,
25:41I apologize.
25:42I apologize.
25:43I'm sorry.
25:44I'm sorry.
25:46Yelling at him
25:47and cussing at him
25:48was not a successful
25:49strategy, right?
25:51And so it seemed
25:53very clear.
25:54I needed to apologize
25:55and I needed
25:55to back it off
25:56and I needed
25:58to be more
25:59of that soft touch
26:00and more like,
26:01hey, it's okay.
26:02We're here.
26:03We want to help you.
26:04This is your time.
26:06And you're a good guy.
26:07Okay?
26:08So,
26:09this can,
26:10we can make this work.
26:11We can make this okay.
26:13But you got to be honest.
26:14Starting right now.
26:15She walked towards the bar
26:21around Harvey's
26:22for blood,
26:24for dead bodies,
26:25for...
26:26Why don't you tell us
26:30about where you and Dalene
26:32went after Food for Less,
26:34Jason?
26:34Because it wasn't
26:35for the bar.
26:36Jason?
26:39I'm really scared
26:40because I know
26:41when people are missing
26:42they look like
26:43you guys are waiting
26:43at me
26:44and it's a person
26:45that our last week
26:46usually has done something.
26:47Okay, then be honest
26:48and stop lying.
26:50I'm sorry.
26:50I'm really scared.
26:52We went back to my house.
26:54We drank a little bit.
26:56Then she called
26:57and she started
26:58to walk off
26:59to go home.
27:00She...
27:01I wasn't going to let her
27:02walk all the way home.
27:03She's been drinking a lot.
27:05So,
27:06I got in my grandma's car
27:07and I didn't know
27:09how much she got in.
27:11Why is it that
27:11you lied to everybody?
27:13Because I'm really...
27:14because I know
27:15how people look
27:16when you're the last person.
27:17Like, everybody's
27:17pointing fingers at me
27:18because I think
27:20she left the bar with me.
27:21Well, she did
27:21leave the bar with you,
27:22Jason.
27:23Right.
27:23But now she's missing
27:24and I'm not
27:25going to do it.
27:26I'm missing.
27:27Then, Jason,
27:27why would you not
27:28tell us that
27:28from the get-go?
27:29Jason,
27:30because here's the problem.
27:32I'm really scared.
27:34I'm still scared.
27:35Things happen, man.
27:36It's okay.
27:37Okay?
27:38I'm missing.
27:39So, let's make it better.
27:43Okay?
27:45Jason,
27:45let's make it better.
27:46Let's make it better
27:47right now.
27:48Okay?
27:50Let's make it better.
27:51Do the right thing, man.
27:52You're a good guy.
27:53And I know in your heart...
27:54I'm a good guy.
27:56I'm a good guy.
27:57I'm a good guy.
27:57In your heart,
27:58I know you want
27:58to do the right thing.
28:00I don't mind it.
28:02Don't make mistakes, Jason.
28:07Do the right thing now
28:09for you.
28:10What am I supposed to do now?
28:11It's been seven days.
28:13The more that he becomes
28:14emotional and the more
28:15that he cries,
28:16it becomes apparent to me
28:18that these are not real tears.
28:24What we see is him
28:25beginning to get
28:26really, really worried
28:27about himself
28:28and not about Dailene.
28:30He knows
28:31that he's in
28:32serious trouble.
28:50Jason,
28:51the more you talk about it,
28:52the better you're going to feel.
28:53The better you're going to feel?
28:54Don't you feel me right now?
28:54You're going to feel better.
28:55You're going to feel me
28:57until I walk.
28:58But, Jason,
28:59you've got to feel a little
29:02better about, you know,
29:04being able to get this
29:05off your chest.
29:05You haven't been able
29:07to tell us now.
29:08You haven't been able
29:09to tell anybody.
29:13But you get it
29:14off your chest.
29:15Listen, because ultimately
29:16the truth is going to come out.
29:18Ultimately.
29:19The truth will come out.
29:20And how much
29:23had you had to drink
29:24between the two
29:26and the whole bottle
29:27of Jager.
29:31Did you guys have sex?
29:32No.
29:33Jason.
29:33Jason.
29:34Jason.
29:35Jason.
29:38Why would you lie about that?
29:39Jason?
29:40Jason, stop lying.
29:42Let's let it.
29:43Hey, let it out now.
29:45It's okay, man.
29:46I'm going to walk away.
29:48Jason, that's okay, man.
29:50Okay?
29:51But you've got to stop lying.
29:53Okay?
29:53Stop lying.
29:59Is that the first time
30:00you guys had sex?
30:02Was she upset because...
30:03Because we were both drunk.
30:04It's going to never happen.
30:05Well, that's okay.
30:07Was she upset because...
30:09I didn't think so.
30:10I didn't want to...
30:11I didn't want to...
30:12Why do you think
30:13she was upset?
30:14She was probably
30:15sobering up.
30:16We had sex
30:18and we came out
30:19for a little bit more
30:20and then she just said
30:21she wants to go home
30:22and she started walking
30:23and so on.
30:24And I got her in the corner.
30:26Was she in the front seat
30:27or back seat seat?
30:29She was telling me
30:30just let her go.
30:31Just don't worry about her.
30:32Just let her go.
30:33I figured she was...
30:34Was she yelling?
30:35I figured she was upset
30:36about this sex.
30:37I figured...
30:37You know?
30:38What was she saying?
30:39She was like,
30:40I'm horrible.
30:41I can't believe I did this.
30:43You're a piece of garbage.
30:45To you?
30:45Yeah.
30:46Why was she
30:46thinking about you?
30:47No.
30:49Like I said...
30:49What were you saying?
30:50I said,
30:52I'm just going to
30:52take you home.
30:53You'll be all right.
30:55And then she got out of the car
30:56and I didn't want
30:57to pursue the issue.
30:58So I was...
30:59Oh, wait.
31:01That's what I did.
31:02So I should have
31:03just made sure
31:04to do my phone.
31:05Jason said that they drove
31:09all the way to Modesto,
31:11which is about
31:1130 minutes south of us,
31:13and that Dalene
31:15got out of the car
31:16at some unknown place.
31:18And instead of
31:19alerting the authorities
31:20in that community
31:21and asking for help,
31:23he just left
31:24and went to a gas station.
31:25You were so good
31:27to try to stop her.
31:28That's what I mean.
31:28I don't know.
31:29She got out of the car
31:30and you didn't go around
31:31to help her?
31:32No, I didn't.
31:34I don't really know.
31:38That's why I didn't
31:39want to take anybody.
31:41Okay.
31:41She didn't jump out
31:42of the car, Jason.
31:44Jason.
31:45Yeah, she did.
31:46She didn't jump out.
31:47She stepped out of the car.
31:49Jason,
31:49she didn't step out of the car.
31:50She didn't just walk away, Jason.
31:51And you didn't just drive off.
31:53That doesn't make any sense, Jason.
31:55Because when you lie,
31:56it's great.
31:57Okay.
31:59Jason.
32:01Jason.
32:03No.
32:04Jason.
32:05Jason.
32:06I saw him.
32:06Jason.
32:08Jason.
32:09No.
32:09Where are we going to find a body?
32:11Help us find her.
32:12Help us bring her home.
32:13Her family deserves it.
32:14You have a family.
32:15She has a family.
32:16She deserves it.
32:16I know that.
32:17She does.
32:17I can't do anything to her.
32:20Come on, Jason.
32:21Listen to me.
32:21You don't seem to understand
32:23the gravity of the situation.
32:24Okay?
32:26When Jen explains it.
32:27I didn't do it.
32:29I don't want you.
32:30I don't.
32:31Definitely don't want you to do that.
32:33Okay.
32:37Okay.
32:39I'm sorry, you guys.
32:42I feel like you're making me say something
32:43that's not true.
32:44No.
32:45We don't want to bring anything to you, Mom.
32:47But no worries, Mom.
32:48Yep.
32:49It's over.
32:49So you asked for it for me.
32:51So we can't talk to you at all.
32:53So here's what's going to happen.
32:53Okay?
32:54You're going to go to jail.
32:55Okay?
32:56Jason?
32:56Good night.
32:58Jason asking for a lawyer
32:59and our communication
33:00having to end with him
33:02was pretty devastating.
33:03As somebody who was fielding the calls
33:06from her family
33:08every single day,
33:09I wanted to know where she was.
33:11We are looking at a no body,
33:26no cause of death investigation.
33:29There's no evidence, really,
33:31of his kidnap
33:32or what we believe to be murder
33:34of Daling Carlson.
33:36We just know that she has disappeared.
33:38He is the last person to see her.
33:41He is lying about his interactions with her.
33:44But that's all we have at this moment.
33:46Gilly was set free for lack of evidence
33:59after police arrested him
34:01soon after Carlson's disappearance.
34:03This is the only interview he's done.
34:05I really haven't known her that long.
34:07And just to be accused of this,
34:08it really hurts.
34:09Carlson was last seen with Gilly
34:11leaving a bar
34:12then shopping at a grocery store.
34:13She was never seen again.
34:15I'm not that person
34:16that you all see on TV.
34:18I'm a kind person.
34:20Never,
34:20I don't push myself on anybody.
34:22Everybody that knows me knows that.
34:23It just seemed like such a perfect opportunity
34:39¡Gracias!
35:09Jason, was an opportunity to see how he would respond to a female investigator.
35:16He doesn't have to talk to me. He doesn't have to be there.
35:20He wasn't under arrest here, so he could really have told me to f*** off.
35:39Jason seems like the type of suspect that just needed to be coddled and just be reassured.
36:09As opposed to hitting him hard and him shutting down.
36:13You seem like a nice guy.
36:14Yeah.
36:15You know, and a lot of times I know that nice people get caught up in stuff.
36:21That's what I'm afraid of.
36:23That's what I'm afraid of for you, too.
36:25To be very honest with you.
36:27Yeah.
36:27Because I think you've gotten caught up in stuff.
36:32And my heart feels free.
36:34I feel bad for you.
36:36Right.
36:37I think something happened.
36:40You're not someone to actually hurt somebody.
36:43I think something bad happened.
36:45So when you watch this, he acknowledges for a minute by nodding his head.
36:49You can see that when she says, something bad happened, I think you know.
36:53And he's like, yeah.
36:55And she's trying to relay to him, you can trust me.
36:57If anybody would want to help you on this department and be on your side, you've got one person.
37:03Right.
37:04Okay?
37:04And I don't do that often.
37:06I understand.
37:08There's a lot of people that I've sat across the table from.
37:11Mm-hmm.
37:11And I've done some bad things.
37:16It does not make him a bad person.
37:18Right.
37:19By no means.
37:20Okay?
37:21I just don't really know.
37:22Nothing else that I can think of.
37:23Like, I've been thinking every day.
37:25I just, I don't really know.
37:27At that point, he just kind of like, didn't budge.
37:30He just reminded me of someone that wanted to go ahead and tell the truth, but it wouldn't come out of his mouth.
37:35Right.
37:36El tiempo escrito fue algo que era beneficioso para el caso.
38:04Nosotros queríamos analizar los eventos en la escritura de Jason.
38:09Así que cuando llegamos a la pantalla, hay una parte donde empieza a hablar de Deline en el pasado tense.
38:16Eso no es bueno, eso significa que ha hecho algo. Eso significa que ella se ha ido.
38:34La condición del cuerpo era muy pobre.
38:50Así que no pudimos usar el DNA y tuvimos que usar un dentista de forense.
38:55Que dos días después se identificó los restos de Deline Carlson.
39:02Deline ha sido shot cinco veces.
39:05Y recuperamos cinco casas de .22 calibre en cerca de su cuerpo.
39:12Deline Carlson.
39:19La persona que tenía una mujer tan hermosa, que era hermosa,
39:24que tenía mucha gente para ella.
39:25Y que tenía su vida cortada, es horrible.
39:27¡Suscríbete al canal!
39:57Prosecutors say the evidence that they were able to get once Carlson's body was discovered fits in with the timeline that they already had for the sequence of events here at Gilley's house that night.
40:06What they don't have is the murder weapon.
40:09Through the course of this investigation, we learned who all of Jason's family was in this area.
40:15And through questioning Jason's uncle, we learned that Jason had an old .22 caliber semi-automatic handgun that he gave his uncle and told his uncle to put in a safe and keep for him.
40:32I asked him, when did Jason give you that gun?
40:35He said, you know, Jason gave me that gun just after that girl disappeared.
40:41We did a forensic examination of that gun in relation to the casings that were found at the scene.
40:50And through that examination, the experts were able to say that that gun that was provided to us by the uncle was the murder weapon.
40:57Our evidence for the rape charge was Jason's statement that Dalene woke up after having sex and was extremely mad at Jason.
41:22So those were the grounds I used and I believe was the motive for the homicide.
41:27I believe that he was worried about being accused of rape.
41:31And that was more important to him than Dalene's life.
41:36The amount of agony that we went through every day, every day it was harder, every day it was not easier.
41:41It was harder and harder and harder.
41:43And I hope that he goes down.
41:46God forgive me for saying it, but I hope he does.
41:52Jason Gilley was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole, which I believe was the right sentence.
42:14Following the trial, the jurors explained that this video and this interrogation was critical in their decision-making
42:23because they were able to see that his thought process and his lies were kind of the final nail in the coffin, so to speak, in his fate.
42:33He took my daughter away.
42:35Why take...
42:36Good night.
42:36Good night.
42:36Good night.
42:36Good night.
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