Ex–ADG BSF PK Mishra EXCLUSIVE: Madvi Hidma is DEAD | Can India End Maoism by 2026? - video Dailymotion

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The government says Maoism will end by March 2026 — but is that really possible? In this exclusive interview, former ADG BSF P.K. Mishra breaks down the truth behind India’s anti-Naxal strategy, the killing of top Maoist leader Madvi Hidma, and what it means for Left-Wing Extremism across Central India.    #Infocus #Naxalism #Maoism #MadviHidma #PKMishra #BSF #IndiaSecurity #Bastar #Dantewada #LeftWingExtremism #ExclusiveInterview #IndianArmy #InternalSecurity #IndiaNews #India   🔊 LIKE ➡ SHARE ➡ SUBSCRIBE  Download the Asianet News App now!  Available on Android & iOS  👉 Android:  https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vserv.asianet&hl=en_IN   👉 iOS:  https://apps.apple.com/in/app/asianet-news-official/id1093450032   For More Updates:  Follow us on our What's app Channel: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029Va5Bq3yKwqSLSQTxam0r  English: https://newsable.asianetnews.com/  Hindi: https://hindi.asianetnews.com/  Malayalam: https://www.asianetnews.com/  Kannada: https://kannada.asianetnews.com/  Tamil: https://tamil.asianetnews.com/  Telugu: https://telugu.asianetnews.com/  Bengali: https://bangla.asianetnews.com/  Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AsianetNewsa...  Follow us on Twitter:  https://twitter.com/AsianetNewsEN  Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ann.newsable/  ➡ If you like our video, give us a thumbs up and subscribe to our channel to get the daily dosage of news, entertainment, sports and more.

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00:00so viewers today i have with me pk mishra former additional director general of the bsf

00:15he's a key security expert in india and he has managed sensitive border areas and internal

00:21security challenges in india thank you so much sir for speaking with asianet news jahin nina

00:26jahin sir this discussion will focus on the decline in the maoist insurgency in india

00:33now recently we saw the killing of madhvi hidma one of the most feared maoist leaders

00:38and a lot of people are discussing that how this is possibly a big turning point in our fight against

00:45the maoist insurgency how much do you think it will be a hit for the insurgency and do you think that

00:51it will now help us with greater force to disintegrate the entire movement yes you know i can

00:57well tell you uh hidma he was of course he belongs he's the son of the soil of chathis god he's from

01:04sukma he's a 44 years old and uh i can well tell you he joined fast cpi and then he joined uh maoist

01:14movement he was uh he became a central committee member and uh he was commanding the first plga

01:25battalion the gorilla army battalion in in nux allies and that is the biggest battalion operational

01:32battalion in the whole of red corridor and practically he was the mastermind of all operations

01:39big operations which were uh planned and which was which were executed all over in red corridor

01:46including that of talmetala and that's what i was in 2010 76 crpf personnel were were killed and then

01:562013 the jirav khati operation where 32 congress leaders were killed and then 2011 where another 25 crpf

02:06person was killed and 2021 also he killed in sukma bijapur road about 22 police personnel he was he was in

02:16fact a terror and in all the tribal area because he was the king of dandakaranya buster and also abu smart

02:26and he was the only member in central committee from buster and dandakaranya division and anywhere weapons

02:35were snatched and recovered and recovered from and snatched from security forces by nuxa lights that

02:42used to go to headmaster plga number one plga battalion that was i had been to uh i mean jiram khati just

02:53three days after the incident happened in 2013 and i know how in my plant with 350 nuxa lights there in

03:01numbers and they skipped very nicely through tulsi degree to uh odisha and malkan giri they escaped

03:09to another state now as because after this karai gura operation in april which continued for 21 days

03:19and the biggest operation in the history of security forces in india there 31 of the lights were killed

03:26and hidma was also there but hidma had five player security and he could manage to escape from that

03:34place then of course vasov rau's raju was killed with 26 more civilians who have born of slides in

03:41satish guard there also hidma was there and there also hidma escaped head was i mean he was a great

03:49person he knew the person he knew the terrain the best part of it he knew the terrain and he knew he

03:55knew all the rules and uh how to escape in an operation and then what happened venugopal surrendered

04:04at the gun zero lead he requested hidma please surrender come to mukhya dhara and come back but he

04:13he didn't bother for venugopal's messages then his mother was contacted his mother requested sent a

04:20message hidma's mother hidma please come back leave the weapons leave this thing and come back come back

04:28to your home i am waiting he refused to come back he thought perhaps after so many persons were leaders

04:35were killed and so many persons were apprehended and a lot of a lot of leaders surrendered he may lead

04:42whole of luxor lights all over india that is what he thought but the way satish guard security forces

04:52they started operating all over places we had about more than 100 forwarding operate operation bases in

05:01dandakaryana buster and abu smar where they were dominating we entered there and opened the camps

05:09he had no other option than to escape to andhra he tried to escape he tried to escape with his wife

05:17rajay rajaka she was also along with him and another another four nationalite leaders they all six of them

05:25they were escaping from satish got to andhra to get shelter there but this information this intelligence

05:34could come to come to security forces and telling anna police greyhound including andhra police odisha

05:41police and satish god police they all surrounded him in meredudumili forest of aluri district

05:49in odisha andhra butter satish god butter in the trijunction and the contact continued from six six o'clock and

05:58the firing started from six o'clock morning and that all the end of hidma hidma was killed along with

06:06his wife and other four nationalites that is what i am telling after hidma was killed plga battalion

06:15the biggest battalion the operational battalion of for nationalites and the maoist they don't have a

06:21leader there is no young leader who can lead plga battalion and most of the weapons have been surrendered

06:30yeah and they don't they don't have a place to recruit the tribals are not interested to to be

06:37recruited into maozim and nux allies and they don't have a training place also to give them the training

06:45and they don't have an instructor they had the improvised explosive device instructor that is a

06:52maturi jokharau called tech tech shankar and this tech shankar the leader he was also the central

07:02committee member of andhra odisha border the next day in the same forest in the same district he was

07:09with another another six nuxa lights with three women nuxa lights they were also trying to escape

07:16and the next day again firing continued from six to seven one hour and the tech shankar was killed

07:25along with six more nuxa lights including three three women nuxa lights so that is the end of uh

07:33and i'm telling operational capability of nuxa lights they cannot have any force to to go direct to

07:42ambush security forces or direct to open fire they just had don't have the capability now what they can do

07:49a few persons are there they will go for placing improvised explosive devices in a place with

07:59pressure switch so that bachan security forces they go on that road or track they may be blasted that

08:06differently so that happens everywhere in india but they are finished now and what mr amisha and our

08:14honorable prime minister they they gave that verdict that you see by 31st this of 31st march 26 and then

08:22amisha told before 30th november i want hidma to be apprehended or i want hidma to surrender or i want

08:32hidma to be killed and this happened 12 days before 30th of november 2025 and i'm very sure

08:41what our noble prime minister has thought that india will be naksal mukt bharat that's a naksal mukt bharat

08:50it may happen by 31st december 2025 because hidma has gone and operational capability that has gone to

09:00zero debji is now he is now wondering he is now running away they're running away he will be killed

09:08or to be caught or he may surrender any time now the family of devuji is saying that he has been

09:14apprehended but the police has denied it yes there was a statement by by his family and it came out

09:22the day the next day when that tech sankar was killed information came that devuji also was killed

09:29but all the seven dead bodies they were identified and debuji is still there and he is he is there and

09:38that's all but devuji cannot lead plgf first battalion he has no operational capability but

09:46devuji will be caught they will surrender they have no other option and the best part of it now i will tell

09:52you this first plgf battalion personnel so-called nationalites with weapons they are giving a

09:59message that we are ready to surrender the surrender policy of chattisikhar government is such

10:06which was adopted by odisha and all other states the way they are looking after those surrendering

10:14nationalites and their families definitely the plgf battalion first battalion personnel will surrender

10:21with arms they have the author of sanita sir you talked about venu gopal aka sonu when he surrendered

10:30we thought that you know madhvi hidma will also fall in place but he continued to have this different

10:37ideological path now of course we are killing the leaders but how much rampant this ideology is in that

10:45red corridor uh the so-called red corridor uh because even if we kill the leaders these ideological

10:52bases will continue to exist so how will we be able to decimate it completely hina i will tell you i am

10:59the person who was directly involved in wiping out maoism and duxalism in west bengal in 1972 73 74

11:13that charu majumdar's group who created maoism in india and there were three officers which

11:21these then igp at that time there was no post of dg police in india they were ig police the ig police

11:29of justice and chief secretary they all combined and they all combined and they selected three officers in

11:37three districts 24 parganaj bardaman and nadia they selected three outside the officers of bengal and

11:45they told what you may do whatever you like we want to sell a gym to be over in bengal and in 1974

11:54naksalism was totally zero in west bengal and his operational commander like like hidma in chathis guard

12:03kora sarkar was killed by the person who is speaking to him now at santipur phulia in nadia

12:11district i was a speaker at that time yeah and that is how i have seen but they had ideology you know

12:18they had ideology and they were fighting for a cause here in red corridor they were not fighting for a

12:25cause it is violence there are criminals they were getting weapons from china they were getting weapons

12:33from manmar they were getting funds from urban naxals they were getting funds from raipur capital

12:42they were getting france from calcutta they were getting france from delhi and they were getting funds

12:47through JNU. That is called Jawaharlal Nehru University in Delhi. These all areas, they

12:55were covered with urban guerrillas and they were helping them with protection, with law

13:02and also giving them funds and also ensuring that the weapons they come from China and

13:09Myanmar. That was the policy of these urban guerrillas. Now what happened? This funding

13:18system that has been totally stopped. Number two, the funding of the proxy groups by China

13:25is completely stopped. Totally. Now no funds can go to them. There is no bank, no place

13:32where they can get the fund and there is no person who can receive the fund also. Number

13:37two, the weapons coming from Myanmar and China, totally it is blocked. They cannot send even

13:44a small pistol also to Naksal areas. That is totally blocked. Urban Naksalites, we know

13:52who are the persons in our headquarters, such capitals of various states and India's capital,

14:01they are also being vast. No question of any funds or anything going to them. So I am very

14:08sure Naksalism will be definitely ousted in India. They don't have an aim. They are not

14:15Charu Majumdar. They are not Charu Majumdar that they are having an aim so that they will be

14:22there with the mass. They were getting the mass with them by force. The tribals were there

14:31with them by force because the tribals they knew if they don't help them they will be killed.

14:38And all our infirmers were killed also. So nobody was coming up to inform us. Our infirmers

14:45were not there in the field. And we were operating on the roads, main roads and we used to go inside

14:52the forest, do some operations and come back. Now then we changed the tactics. We entered

15:00their area. The technicality came to security forces. Communication improved. Road communication

15:08improved. I am telling you about our communication. We had the communication from drones direct

15:15to the ground to the operational parties. And our troops, suppose they get casualty, they

15:23got casualty. We started evacuating them through helicopter. Then we started heli bound operations.

15:32And then what happened? All the interstate border, they were totally blocked.

15:38There are still certain areas as far as we see in the reports which are still disconnected.

15:43The villages are still disconnected. And so these evacuations, these are largely happening

15:48with the help of helicopters. So there is still a lack of infrastructure in those areas.

15:53The tribals at least who have been stuck in between the security forces and these Maoist leaders,

15:59they will aspire for infrastructure, education, the overall socio-economic development.

16:05Yes, you know, it's a very big point which you have stated. You see, Maoism cannot be finished

16:12with weapons by security forces. It is only 10%. You will win the hearts of the people if you go

16:21for development. I have seen the condition of Chhattisgarh area, maybe in Jiramghati, maybe in Darbaghati,

16:34maybe in Natsingpur, maybe in Kanker. Those areas I visited in 2013. I went inside also to Tulsi Degree.

16:42Things were pretty bad. People were not coming out to the security forces and to the government.

16:49They were, I mean, crying for help. They didn't have anything to do. Even the tribals.

16:55They were not even getting the, getting the, you see, like tendu leaves and other fruits of those areas.

17:03They were not getting it. There were contractors who were borrowing it and no development works were done.

17:10And we were only there in, in, I mean, in, on the roads, we had the camps. That is what we suffered.

17:18Now, I just visited this year. I have gone twice to Chhattisgarh. I have seen the development in Kankerh.

17:27I have seen the development in Dantivada. I have seen the development in Bashtar.

17:33I have gone to Malkanigiri also in Odisha to see the development. Things are pretty good.

17:38And we are now taking all the young boys and girls, having seven, those who are seventh parents.

17:46Even they are, they are not educated. We are now going to teach them also in our schools.

17:51And we want to take them and take them so that they can enter our courses because they are son of the soil.

17:58You see the DRG when it was fought. The DRG, they consist of all the tribals from that area.

18:05Yeah. From that area. I am very sure when, when the road communication, they are improving.

18:12All the villages one by one, we are adopting and development in communication, development in education,

18:19development in health, development in corporate, development in, and everything is taking place.

18:26Things will change. But those areas where we have already gone inside in the Karyana, Bashtar,

18:34and Abu Swar, the state government masonry, they must go inside and start their operation.

18:43That is called another civil oppression. I call it civil oppression. That is all this development.

18:49That is what Hon. Prime Minister tells us. Because until and unless you don't do that, civilians will not come to you.

18:56Because they have not seen the world. They do not know anything. I am very sure. I have talked to them several times.

19:03They don't get anything. You know, the sugar was 75 rupees a kg. That's what in 2013 I was checking.

19:11That time it was 75 rupees a kg in Tulsi Duguri and those areas where I have gone. I have gone like you. I didn't go as a police officer.

19:20I went as a journalist with a separate telephone with chapel. And I didn't take any, any help from anybody. So I went to Tulsi Duguri.

19:29And there I found they never get any ration in government ration or anything. So that is how it has reached them.

19:37Now our battalion, our forwarding of forward operating bases, we also receive those items from state masonry, ration and all.

19:46We also help in distributing it to the villagers, villagers as per their need, as per their quality and quantity concerned we give them.

19:56And the best part of it, a lot of them are being taken in state masonry also, not only in police forces.

20:05They are being taken in civil areas also, particularly in the health sector, education sector.

20:11A lot of ladies have been employed and the young girls, we thought of teaching them.

20:18Because you see the Buster Olympics did come up. The Buster Olympics has also helped them.

20:24Now the best part of it, the ladies and the young girls in those areas, they must come up.

20:30I salute to those tribal ladies. They are telling their children, please don't.

20:36They are not telling, they are forcing their children. Go and study. You will get a job. Don't go to the zoonaxals.

20:44They have already humiliated us. They have already killed a lot of us.

20:48Now this is the final thing. We, not even our children should ever join Mao Zedong.

20:55Mao Zedong is going to be finished. And the best part of it, I request all the states.

21:02They must, their civil organizations must enter, penetrate to those areas where we are there with our forwarding bases.

21:12And they must start developing. Developing in every respect. So that we take the help.

21:17We get the help of those tribals. Tribals are the son of the soil. Let us first look after them.

21:23I will give you one example. In Sunabada, Kurapur, Dhandakaranya, when in 1971 we had war with Bangladesh.

21:34About 50 to 60,000 Bangladesh refugees entered. And they were settled in Dhandakaranya by our honorable so-called prime minister.

21:47Then in 1971, I mean beginning of 1972. Anyway, you will come to know who was the prime minister.

21:55And what happened there? What happened there? We, they removed all those tribals from that area.

22:03And they gave land. They gave, I mean, cows. They gave gulags to all these Bangladesh migrants.

22:11And sending them out, these, these our own tribals. What they will do then? They became Naxalites.

22:18This is not the way for Bangladesh refugees. Our people suffered. Tribals were not looked after.

22:26We thought perhaps they are from some other country. That is what they also thought about us.

22:33That we are their enemy. We get all the facilities, but they don't get anything.

22:37That is what Naxalijim and Mahavajim, it flourished in Red Corridor.

22:43And now, the Red Corridor is not there in 11 districts. I am very sure it has gone down to 9 districts.

22:50Yeah, earlier it was in more than 180, I think.

22:54Oh, 150. Yes. It is now 9. It's not 11. As it was told during Hidma's encounter.

23:01Now it is 9 districts. And those 9 districts, all our forces are now entering.

23:07We are getting more forces there and we are entering.

23:10We will ensure these, these all 9 districts will be free of biology very soon.

23:15There is a criticism of how recruitment happens in DRG.

23:18What are we going to do with those forces once we get rid of this insurgency?

23:24I will tell you, you know, we had similar type of Salma, Jhudum and all in Kashmir also.

23:33Yeah.

23:34And I had a number of militants. They were working with me.

23:39And those militants also they joined me in making a small film.

23:45You know, you can see a film called Pyara Gulshan Apna. It is of, it's a film. It was, it was there during operation time.

23:57Yeah, that was in 2000, I mean 1995, 96 that was made by Mani Shankar.

24:04He could not do it because it was all totally militancy affected area.

24:09So then I told Mani Shankar, it was the Prime Minister, Mr. Natsingh Rao's project.

24:15I told Mani Shankar, come down. I'll help you.

24:18I had a number of militants whom I caught.

24:22I asked them, you will be the, you will participate in this film.

24:27They were very happy. The families, they were very happy.

24:30They couldn't find out a hero. So a very senior police officer who is speaking to you now, in your channel, just now, he was the hero of the movie.

24:41I definitely give it a word, sir.

24:44Please, Tiara Gulshan Apna. And in fact, it was broadcasted every day in DD News.

24:52That time for two years it continued. It was on Kashmir militancy.

24:56So all these militants, they joined, they came to forefront.

25:00And I am very sure, similar way, we will get the help.

25:05And let us help those tribals in every respect.

25:09The tribals, they are, they are, they are from our family.

25:13We should not think that they are outsiders. Let's go there.

25:17Let's educate them. Free of cost. We should have the schools free of cost.

25:23And let them, let them be educated and get the, get the service everywhere.

25:29And that's also, they will come up. And I know a lot of mobile towers.

25:34All over our forwarding our bases, those were there.

25:39Mobile towers are already there. The road communication already there.

25:43But we are making helipads also.

25:45Why you are making helipads in those interior areas?

25:48Still, you were telling Hena, there are some places where we cannot reach.

25:52We have to develop. We are now making helipads there.

25:56So that our troops can go and land. They will have helipad operations.

26:00They will go and we will clear that area.

26:03So that the civilian, civil authority can penetrate to those areas for development.

26:09I am very sure the way funds are coming, the way all the states are,

26:14it is not central government versus state governments or opposition government.

26:20No, every state government is, is there with central government.

26:25Right? As far as Maoism is concerned in those areas, all are helping.

26:29Even the Madam Mahmata Banerjee also, they are cooperating.

26:33And this is a combined effort for, because development in tribal areas.

26:39And we have to do it. If we don't do it, I am sure this 31st March will never take place.

26:46It will never be done. Let's go. Our main 90% result we'll get if we just adopt those tribals.

26:54And develop them, develop that area. 10% with weapons, not with this area.

27:02If we don't reach there, if we don't remain in their heart, we don't win their heart.

27:08We cannot remove Maoism. Certainly not.

27:12Let's revisit this idea.

27:16Let's do it. Let's go.

27:20We're to destroy it.

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