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00:00I genuinely was shocked about the astonishingly rude things
00:04that Trump said about the murdered Saudi commentator Khashoggi,
00:10the extraordinarily positive things he said about the Saudi leader MBS.
00:17Was any of that a surprise to you?
00:20It's, you know, it's Trump, OK?
00:22It's not, as my daughter, who's 13, put it to me recently,
00:26she's like, I keep hearing you describe Donald Trump as a unique character.
00:29Is there such a thing as being too unique?
00:31Which I thought was a good description.
00:33He's never going to change. He's nearly 80.
00:36He's a trash-talking New York real estate magnate
00:39who became the most powerful guy in the world.
00:41And, yeah, he says stuff occasionally that makes me wince,
00:44makes most people wince.
00:45He does other things which I think are very effective
00:47by using the same blunt instrument technique.
00:50I would say, not as a defence, but as an explanation
00:52for why he is so rude to journalists in America,
00:56is that he has spent years being called a Nazi
00:59and a fascist by many of them,
01:00and I don't believe he's either a Nazi or a fascist.
01:02So I do think if you're going to get those kind of attacks,
01:05then calling somebody a little piggy may be indelicate,
01:09and I think ungentlemanly,
01:10but it's not as bad as being called a Nazi.
01:12We might.
01:12We might.
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