00:00We are negotiating with the USA.
00:03We made a substantive submission now, and they've come back and said, no, no, no, you've
00:12gone too much detail to areas within the nature of the agreement.
00:17They pushed back on certain areas, were preparing a new submission, but what does that mean?
00:24What that means is that there are negotiations taking place between ourselves and the USA.
00:29Except that we can be through the media, through what details of this agreement, when we're
00:35not negotiating with them in the media.
00:37Do you feel there's been improvement, though, over the past?
00:41Is it on specific items?
00:42Is it on the negotiations?
00:43Not on specific items, but on the general posture of the negotiation.
00:49What would you say the current state of relations are between South Africa and the U.S.?
00:54At a formal level, there's absolutely no problem.
00:58Except that now and again, we hear what the USA says about genocide and all of those things.
01:07As somebody who is now based in South Africa, I'm sure you're speaking to a number of South
01:13Africans, there's absolutely no basis for that.
01:15Do you think it is putting a dent on potential investment into the country?
01:20Does that concern you?
01:21Yes.
01:22The USA is powerful.
01:24The USA is powerful because if you deal with a nation which is on their sport light, you don't
01:33know where they are likely to get secondary sanctions.
01:35You see what I mean?
01:36You see what I mean?
01:37So no one wants to be on the wrong side.
01:41And to that extent, it influences the attitude of investor community to South Africa.
01:47So no one wants to be on the ground.
01:48Believe that, we wish to come.
01:49006": We do appreciate you all from for
01:53the words that you miss.
01:55Don't see at the 5w alongside elections.
02:07Then they're up there for a break.
02:12We like to go there.
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