00:00I am so good. I love being here. I love all the fans, the energy. It's been surreal.
00:06What's it been like watching this season, particularly the last couple episodes?
00:10What's it been like for you watching this back when everybody is like, you're the source and everything?
00:14It was so devastating and so hurtful. That was genuine.
00:19Oh my gosh, I don't even like to talk about it. It was so horrible.
00:23I feel like, especially with Heather, I've been so supportive and I never went backwards.
00:28Like, with Mary, I don't go backwards. With Heather, I don't go backwards.
00:33With Whitney, I try not to go backwards until the same thing happens again.
00:36So to have Heather do that, it was so devastating and it's like such a character assassination.
00:45I mean, now that you say character assassination, I was at the taping last night to watch What Happens Live
00:49and a lot of people, the audience was like, you know, said that you were a liar.
00:53Yeah, it was awful.
00:54Was it awful for you?
00:55You know what? I don't get to have a good experience like they do because I've never done that to them.
01:03So imagine like somebody helps bring the show here, me, and then you just keep trying to ruin their experience with lies.
01:11What are they gaining from it?
01:12Like, oh, I have another bad season. Is that all you want?
01:15You get to have a storyline. It's honestly been really, really awful to wake up every day to hate because they lie.
01:25It's not cool.
01:26Does it make you reevaluate your time here? I know that you love doing the show.
01:33You know, they're not going to. I think the intention this year was to like, you know, the ones that always cry the most about you're just trying to ice me out are the ones that try and do it to others.
01:44But I'm like, you know, it's an ensemble cast. We all are unique and individuals where that's what makes it work.
01:53And when you try to ice somebody out, you're not going to gain. You're going to get somebody else that's probably worse, you know, and it's like you've been there, tried that.
02:03So why would you do this to me?
02:04So you feel like you're 100% being iced out of this group?
02:07I think they tried to isolate me and then Meredith.
02:09And I think it's been really, really hard to look at some of the girls and say, why would I ever keep giving you what I've given you?
02:18You just lie all the time. Like, I'm a good friend. That's why they all want to be my friend.
02:22I'm a loyal friend. That's why they all try and be my friend.
02:24And so the fact that they're like, we're going to have a great experience and it's going to be at a cost of hurting you, it's ridiculous and gross and hurtful.
02:33I have feelings, too. I'm strong, but I also have feelings, too.
02:37And I've never been in a situation in my life like this.
02:40I'm friends with my friends from kindergarten.
02:42I'm friends with all my middle school girlfriends and high school girlfriends and college.
02:46So the fact that a small group of girls has taken it upon themselves to try and denigrate my character, my name, my businesses, my face, my ankles, it's too much.
02:57No way back for you and Heather after this?
02:59I mean, I never say that.
03:00Like, I genuinely have love for each and every one of them in different ways, right?
03:06Like, in a friend group, you each fulfill each other differently.
03:10I think with Heather, she just broke so much trust.
03:13And her and Angie, like, what they did with the whole, you know, anecdote on the boat.
03:21Heather was like, Angie, you need to tell, like, share the story about Todd.
03:26That was like a one-on-one conversation off camera.
03:29I've never brought off camera.
03:30I mean, if I brought off camera on camera, I would have the best seasons ever.
03:35Yeah.
03:35Are you holding that for your back pocket?
03:37No, I don't do that.
03:38I just don't do that.
03:39It's like my New York code.
03:40I just grew up where people should be able to confide in you, and they shouldn't have to worry about what happens with it once they do.
03:46If I don't like you, even Meredith and I, in our lowest, like, I had a bad moment, she had bad moments, and we both hurt each other.
03:54We never went below the bell and never shared personal messages, anything.
04:01So it's like, for one game, like, you want a one-line, it's ridiculous.
04:05What do you need resolved at the reunion?
04:08Well, I want them to admit who the source is because the source came out and said who he is.
04:14It's just like last year with the jewelry gate.
04:18It's the same thing.
04:20A fan did their homework, researched stuff.
04:23We all know Bronwyn researched me.
04:25I didn't research her, but some fans on Twitter did and read it.
04:29And then it's easier to blame me for what you did than to take accountability for it.
04:36That needs to be addressed, you know?
04:39And I mean, I already have my answers.
04:42There's videos of it on TikTok and Twitter and on Reddit, so I already know.
04:47But I just think enough is enough.
04:49I have so much more depth and dimension.
04:51I'm creative.
04:51I own a lot of things that never gets talked about.
04:56And instead of being like, Lisa sold the business two years ago, and Lisa has a new lounge on Main Street,
05:01and Lisa has the number two selling hard seltzer in Utah, they never will talk about it.
05:06But a stupid civil suit, when they have criminal allegations against them, they're all over.
05:11And so it's exhausting.
05:13You know, I would have never even brought that up, you know?
05:15And she brought it upon herself because now people researched her, and it gets old, you know?
05:21But the truth always comes out.
05:24But it's sad that, like, I have to have a year of disconnect from the audience, fans, and my friends over a lie.
05:32Can't we just talk about, like, who copies who on my Cartier watch?
05:36Like, because they do that, too.
05:38Like, it's crazy.
05:40It doesn't have to be that dark, right?
05:41It doesn't have to be that dark.
05:43Definitely.
05:43And, like, to take someone down, you're not winning.
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