Watch an exclusive conversation with IPS officer Prakash Singh, former DGP of Uttar Pradesh and Assam, as he explains the key developments in the Delhi Red Fort blast investigation. With nearly 3,000 kg of explosives discovered and a plot incubated for two years, learn what this means for India’s security and the intelligence challenges faced. Was this a major intelligence failure, or a rare lapse in otherwise commendable vigilance? Watch.
Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
0:56 Intelligence failures?
2:06 Explosives & conspiracy details
6:25 The professional 'white collar' terror network
8:30 Jammu & Kashmir statehood & cooperation
10:40 Pakistan’s role & proving the evidence
12:00 Investigation leads & suspects
13:20 Monitoring educational institutions
14:50 Call for clampdown & stricter measures
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Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
0:56 Intelligence failures?
2:06 Explosives & conspiracy details
6:25 The professional 'white collar' terror network
8:30 Jammu & Kashmir statehood & cooperation
10:40 Pakistan’s role & proving the evidence
12:00 Investigation leads & suspects
13:20 Monitoring educational institutions
14:50 Call for clampdown & stricter measures
#DelhiBlast #RedFortBlast #NationalSecurity #TerrorAttack #PrakashSinghIPS #IndiaNews #TerrorismInvestigation #ExplosivesRecovery #India
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00:00So today I'm being joined by Prakash Singh, an IPS officer who served as a DGP of Uttar Pradesh and Assam and he is joining us to have a discussion with us on some of the key developments that we have seen in the past few days in the Delhi Red Food Blast case.
00:22Sir, thank you so much first of all for speaking with Asianet News. I want to begin with a very basic question. When this blast took place in Delhi on 10th of November, we saw that a lot of fingers were pointing towards Delhi police saying that this was a big intelligence failure.
00:40Now when Pahlkam happened, these kind of talks happened at that time also that there was an intelligence failure, but that was a different case. That was Jammu and Kashmir close to the border with Pakistan.
00:50Cross-border terrorism also was a big factor, but here we are talking about Delhi where the terror attack happened after 10 years. Do you think that this was an intelligence failure at the part of Delhi police or maybe Jammu and Kashmir police?
01:02Look, it is all very easy to blame the intelligence. And every time a major incident happens, people say intelligence failure. But they forget that for the last 14 years, there has been no terrorist incident. The last major incident in Delhi was 7th September 2011. That was the last incident.
01:24That was the last incident. So, for 14 years, we had come and we had come because the enforcement agencies were alert and in between there were a number of threats and conspiracies and plots, but they were all frustrated and there was timely detection. Please remember that the terrorists have to be successful only once, but you have to be successful every time.
01:49Yeah.
01:50So, I mean, if we have prevented 9 out of 10 attacks, but the 10th one somehow managed to get through,
01:56I would not like to call it intelligence failure. Maybe certain aspects of the plot are disturbing. The most disturbing aspect, as far as I am concerned, is the recovery of 2,900 kilograms of explosives. Now, 2,900 kgs is a huge, huge volume.
02:17Yeah.
02:18And it must have been transported in batches over a period of time, undetected every time. So, how is it that so much of explosives could be collected at one place and accommodation was rented and that it will be all stored there? I mean, if they had managed to store this, all these explosives. With so much of explosives, they could have prepared at least 15, 20 car bombs and sent a different
02:47directions to explode. And they would have caused havoc in the country. I mean, wherever these 20 vehicles would have gone. Even, unless they were intercepted. I mean, even at the point of interception, you can also set off the, you can trigger the explosion. And, of course, you will be blown up in the process, but you can trigger the explosion. So, they could have caused havoc in the country. And how is it that so much of explosives were a period of, they say, this conspiracy was,
02:54vehicles would have gone even i mean unless they were intercepted i mean even at the point of
03:02interception you can also set off the you can trigger the explosion and of course you will be
03:08blown up in the process but you can trigger the explosion so they could have caused havoc in the
03:12country and how is it that so much of explosive for a period of they say this conspiracy was
03:18incubating for about two years so for two years for this kind of storage was happening
03:23and certain people were involved and from the same university so i mean there was definitely
03:29some failure in keeping watch over elements which are subversive which are anti-national
03:36some failure was there and i would like to attribute that mainly to haryana police well
03:41and to some extent to the central intelligence agency ib also because they are they are covering
03:47the whole country they might be of course the state intelligence is primarily responsible but
03:53the ib cannot be exonerated so how is it that so much of explosives was stored over a period of time
04:00and this kind of exercise went on and on and we were not aware of it the other there's another way
04:06of looking at it you see the explosives were detected imagine i mean this was a huge intelligence success
04:12also because if this detection had not taken place they would have caused havoc and as newspaper reports
04:19say on the demolition of the babri masjid anniversary they were planning to send car bombs in different
04:25different locations and cause explosions in different cities and they wanted a repeat of something like
04:32what they did in mumbai yes the series of glass they wanted to carry out yeah and some of the reports
04:38also point out that they were trying to mix potash which is potassium chloride with urea to have uh
04:44an explosive which is much easier to detonate how easy it is for someone to walk up to these shops and
04:51gain access to these materials you see actually a lot of explosives are used in road construction and
04:57they have to widen the road they have to blow up some portion and they have to carve out an alignment
05:03that is the time when explosives are used and for road construction purposes
05:07they are there in large in in huge bulk now what is happening normally uh whenever this these
05:16explosives are sold i mean there there should be some kind of control and regulation about who is
05:21who is selling under what whether he has the license to sell and whom does he sell it can't be sold
05:27like any merchandise it has to be one should keep a record of uh of the transfer of possession from one
05:35person to another and there should be some rules laid down for that i'm sure there are some rules but
05:41the rules are they are seldom i mean it's very difficult to enforce those rules and people who
05:47are greedy and they suddenly find that there is a vendor who is offering a very handsome amount of
05:53money that kind of thing happens so in india a lot of irregular transactions take place which remain
06:03undetected uh this seems to be one of those exercises where they bought from different sources
06:09offering i suppose handsome amounts of money and so the vendors were happy to part with their
06:15uh contraband items so another unique challenge that we have seen in this incident is that the suspects
06:23come from a very professional background and they were the part of the white collar terror ecosystem
06:30how can police identify uh and differentiate who is radicalized and who is not radicalized because
06:36here we are talking about doctors professionals who are very much embedded into our society now it is
06:42not very easy because doctors are looked upon with a lot of respect these are people who save lives
06:48but here there were doctors who were planning to take away lives uh now these things uh whatever the
06:55activities they indulge in they indulge in very clandestinely and because they are educated because
07:01they are professionals so they are they understand the limitations of police and what will we did what
07:09can be detected and what will be difficult to detect and they take more precautions and they are more careful
07:14about the movement their activities and their attempted indoctrination their brainwashing of people who
07:21are vulnerable but they are very careful there so they they take every step very cautiously carefully and
07:28they they try to ensure that there are no footprints left behind which would lead to their detection
07:34detection and apprehension so i mean the more educated a person is the more careful the more discreet and
07:41the more cautious he is to i mean to make sure that police does not get sent of their activities
07:48and persons who are indoctrinated brainwashed and who are motivated to carry us carry out
07:56blasts and other subversive activities they are very carefully chosen and then he's also cautioned
08:05that kind of thing so it becomes difficult when a person is less educated he may falter here and there
08:10but but a more educated person is very very careful about his identity and about his activities
08:16uh sir without going into the political side of it uh jammu kashmi chief minister said that he has not
08:24been told about the investigations so far whatever happened in the incident and he is asking for the
08:29restoration of jammu and kashmi statehood uh what is your point of view on that uh he's saying that it
08:35is very important to gain the trust of the people because a lot of suspects come from jammu and kashmi
08:41look i have written on the subject it is there in black and white anybody can see that i have been
08:46writing very strongly that jammu and kashmi should be restored the statehood it was deprived of and i
08:52have also said that omar abdulillah the chief minister elect he has behaved in himself he has been behaving
08:59with great dignity and with a lot of uh i mean respect for the government of india he has not said one
09:07word against the government of india and he has not said one sentence which one could take exception to
09:13so considering all that i think uh you see the uh it's it's high time that he's given the german kashmi
09:21is restored the statehood it was deprived of they deserve it and and once you have it popularly
09:28elected chief minister at the top the chances of people cooperating with the government upon the
09:33chances of people coming out with information about the people indulging in subversive activities
09:38would be much more and lg is after all he's uh from bihar i mean the bottom areas of up he i mean
09:46however good he may be he will not be uh people will not be that much drawn to him or feel loyal to him
09:53or feel attached to him as they would be towards um abdullah so i mean i think government is not
10:01being very fair to the people of uh uh jnk and to the uh elected chief minister uh who has conducted
10:10himself with great dignity the sooner we give a statehood the better it will be for that estate and
10:16it will ensure that would ensure i'm sure it will ensure greater flow of information from the people
10:21and greater cooperation from the people and that will be good from all india for all india point
10:25of view also we saw a blast happening in pakistan also outside the judicial complex do you do you
10:31think that this is something which has been staged so that pakistan wanted to prove a point that this is
10:36not uh this is not which has been perpetrated by pakistan pakistan is actually on the other side
10:42which is the victim of terror i don't think it is state it is just you can say poetic justice
10:48because you are uh causing explosion in another country so here it is one for you also some kind
10:55of poetic justice or natural natural justice you can say i don't think it was staged because
11:02they're having problems with afghanistan and they're almost at war with that country
11:06and the afghans are can pay them back in the same coin yeah they're quite capable of that sir india also
11:13needs to have a concrete evidence to link this blast with the state authorities in pakistan state
11:19pakistan's isi and until unless we have that we cannot take a stand against pakistan militarily
11:26because we need something uh some concrete evidence uh to back it up but no i agree with
11:33you but and i think they're working in that direction and the way investigation is being
11:39conducted and the kind of reports which they are published about the progress in investigation
11:45every day i must say they are going about it very thoroughly and very professionally and i mean there
11:50are dots from kashmir to palwal to saharanpur to lucknow and faridabad all these dots they should be
12:01able to connect in due course of time about how the plot was being hashed who were the conspirators what
12:08was the plan and ultimately who were the handlers ultimately who were the handlers of course uh they
12:16it is said that one and there was one handler in turkey also yeah and uh they were these people
12:23were in contact the number of pakistani telephone numbers have been found in the diaries of the
12:28doctors so i'm sure they are working on these clues and these leads and in course of time we'll be able
12:34to establish that these are amount of people who have the patronage the protection or the guidance
12:42of pakistan isi once that is that government will be able to nail i mean we'll be able to sort of
12:49come to definitive definite conclusion about the conspiracy and the hatchers and the conspirators
12:55and the plotters and the brains behind it we also need to amplify the scrutiny on universities
13:01educational institutions like alphala university though the university has said that we have no
13:05part to play in this but scrutiny needs to be ramped up because these laboratories as per the reports
13:12are being used by these suspects to make all of these explosives you see these educational institutions
13:19i think they also need some monitoring they also need some monitoring and what i'm surprised is that
13:25this kind of thing was going on in alphala university for for such a long time and three of the prime
13:33suspects belong to this university the i mean if you read the national education policy clearly lays down
13:39that the the recruitment process for teachers has to be very robust and it has to i mean it should be very
13:50strict so that they only the right people get recruited as assistant professors or in i mean in the
13:56faculty in any other capacity now what kind of selection process they had or they were conniving at
14:02it they knowing fully well that this thing is going on but the management turned a blind eye to their
14:07activities because three people from the same university is extraordinary if there was just one
14:12person it could have been said that but three people from the same university and you you have no
14:22clue about what they are doing what they are indulging in what they are plotting and what is and how is
14:27their brain functioning and whether they are engaged in indoctrination of people so i mean there is
14:32something serious and how these institutions are run i think we need i mean any institution or i would say
14:40any institution where fundamentalist ideology is being propagated is being nursed is being spread i
14:48think we have to clamp down on those institutions and they should be whatever accreditation has been
14:53given to them should be withdrawn and of course action should be taken against people who now from the
14:58management who connived at it and those who are directly involved of course they should be booked into
15:03especially in peace
15:11you
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