00:00and he said that
00:02kailangan niya magkonsulta sa abogado
00:03I think he has legal counsel here
00:05maybe he should answer to the committee
00:07but hindi pa niya ipinipresenta yung ledger
00:09na hiningi ng committee, Mr. Chair
00:11Mr. Descaya
00:14Your Honor
00:16I invoke my right po
00:19against self-incrimination po
00:23yan po yung advice po sa akin ng lawyer ko
00:30Go ahead, Senator Antiveros
00:32Yes, Mr. Chair
00:34Just on that point
00:34because with the permission of the chairman
00:37very quickly lang
00:37because
00:38iba yung sinabi niya dun sa explanation niya
00:41ngayon nag-i-invoke siya ng right against self-incrimination
00:44so pabago-bago na naman ng kanyang posisyon
00:46sabi niya din sa sulad sa Blue Ribbon Committee
00:49e ikukonsulta muna niya yung lawyer niya
00:51dahil kailangan pa niya pag-aralan
00:53ngayon panibago
00:54Maybe he should put in writing that invocation also, Mr. President
00:58just to respond to the earlier inconsistency
01:00do sa sulad niya
01:01Pabago-bago, Mr. President
01:03Can we defer
01:05decision on this particular issue
01:09so we can proceed?
01:10Because some resource persons
01:12need to get out
01:14or leave
01:15by noon time
01:16So, Senator Antiveros, you may proceed
01:19Salamat, Mr. Chair
01:20At marami salamat, San at President
01:22para sa mga dagdag na minuto
01:24Secretary Dizon
01:26Umamin dati yung DPWH-NCR
01:29sa kumite
01:31na walang koordinasyon
01:33ang daang-daang
01:35flood control projects
01:36sa Quezon City
01:37na kailan lang ay lubog sa baha
01:39Ulat ng Quezon City LGU
01:42ngayong linggo
01:43sa 331
01:45flood control projects
01:47mula 2022 lamang hanggang 2025
01:50na worth 17 billion pesos
01:53dalawa lang
01:55dalawa lang ang may koordinasyon
01:57na aprobado ng lungsod
01:59Imagine po, dalawa lang
02:01sa 331 projects
02:04wala pang 1%
02:05ang sumunod
02:06sa dinevelop
02:08na flood control master plan
02:10ng Quezon City
02:11May mga proyekto tuloy na
02:13imbes makabawas sa baha
02:15nagdulot pa ng mas malaking baha
02:17sa mga daan, kalsada
02:19bahay, opisina
02:20pati paaralan
02:21may ghost projects din daw
02:24na hindi makita
02:25ni mahanap ng LGU
02:27kahit ngayon
02:27So, Secretary
02:29May sinusunod ba
02:30ang DPWH
02:32na iisang master plan
02:33sa paggawa ng bawat
02:35flood control projects
02:36sa bansa
02:37Wala po
02:38Oh my God, wala
02:40So, bakit gumagawa
02:42ng mga proyekto
02:43ang DPWH
02:44na hindi dumaan
02:46sa koordinasyon
02:47koordinasyon
02:48o konsultasyon
02:49sa LGU
02:50tulad sa Quezon City
02:52na may ordinansa ha
02:53Mr. Chair
02:53Ordinance No. 2939
02:55Series of 2020
02:57Ordinansa na nagsasabi
02:59na kailangan
03:00ang koordinasyon
03:01Koordinasyon
03:03Mr. Chairman
03:05Madam Senator
03:06yan din po
03:07ang katanungan namin
03:08In fact
03:10I will go a step further
03:11Mr. Chairman
03:13Ni plano po
03:15walay
03:16Sabi ko nga po
03:17every time po
03:18mag-inspeksyon kami
03:19ang una pong tinatanong ko
03:23pag sa site mismo
03:24pag nakausap ko po
03:26yung contractor
03:26subcontractor
03:27foreman
03:28ang hinihingi ko po
03:29kagad plano
03:30patingin ng plano
03:32In almost all cases
03:35wala pong
03:36maipakita
03:37sa aming plano
03:38Sabi ko nga po
03:40Mr. Chair
03:41Madam Senator
03:42kahit nga po
03:43mag-iit na bahay
03:44eh kailangan ng plano
03:45bago ka magpagawa
03:46siguro naman po
03:47itong mga
03:48daang milyong
03:49flood control projects
03:51dapat may plano
03:52wala po silang
03:54mapakita
03:54kaya po
03:55kasama po ito
03:56sa aming
03:56ongoing investigation
03:57kung bakit po
03:59pinapayagan ito
04:00at paano po
04:01nakakarusot ito
04:03dito sa napakaraming
04:04mga proyektong ito
04:05And for the record
04:07Mr. Chair
04:08sinabi na po
04:09ng Quezon City
04:10government
04:11mayroon po silang
04:12flood control plan
04:14yan din po
04:15yung bahagi
04:15ng sagot
04:16ni Mayor Joy
04:16Belmonte
04:18dun sa
04:19alok
04:20ni Ramon Ang
04:21tungkol sa
04:22flood control
04:23pinasalamatan
04:24niya yun
04:25at sinabi
04:25in fact
04:26meron po kaming
04:27City
04:27flood control
04:28master plan
04:29na pwedeng
04:30makuha
04:32yung suporta
04:32mula sa
04:33private sector
04:34pero mula
04:34sa gobyerno
04:35mismo
04:35bakit may
04:36master plan
04:37itong syudad
04:38at may
04:39331
04:40projects
04:40na iginawa
04:41ang DPWH
04:42NCR
04:43Quezon City
04:43pero dalawa
04:44lang ang
04:45coordinated
04:45and I'm only
04:46guessing
04:47coordinated
04:48sa master plan
04:48ganyan din po
04:49ba ang kalakaran
04:50Secretary
04:51Mr. Chair
04:52sa ibang
04:52mga syudad
04:53o lalawigan
04:54tulad ng
04:55Bulacan
04:55at iba pa
04:56Mr. Chairman
04:57Madam Senator
04:58we are seeing
04:59a very very
05:01similar pattern
05:02in every area
05:03that we visit
05:04and in every
05:05report
05:07that we
05:07get
05:08there is
05:08little to zero
05:10coordination
05:10with the local
05:11governments
05:12with the province
05:13much less
05:15the regional
05:15development
05:16councils
05:16and just
05:18on the master
05:18plan po
05:19meron pong
05:2120
05:21the latest
05:22finished
05:23plan po
05:24na meron
05:24sa aking
05:25pagkakaalam
05:26ay
05:27noong
05:272013
05:28meron pong
05:30plano
05:30meron pong
05:31integrated
05:31master plan
05:32for flood
05:32control
05:33noong
05:342013
05:34at meron
05:36din pong
05:36ongoing
05:37ngayon
05:37ginagawa
05:38ang
05:38AD
05:38ang
05:39JICA
05:39at
05:39World Bank
05:40ongoing
05:41po ito
05:42at ito
05:42matatapos
05:43pa lang
05:43sa susunod
05:44na taon
05:45yun
05:45yun
05:45yun
05:45po
05:46ang
05:46nakita
05:47namin
05:47mga
05:48master
05:49plan
05:49o
05:49ginagawang
05:50master
05:50plan
05:51pagpasok
05:52po
05:52natin
05:52two
05:52weeks
05:53ago
05:53at yun
05:54pong
05:55latest
05:55finished
05:55plan
05:562013
05:56para
05:57po yun
05:58sa
05:58NCR
05:59o
05:59Bansa
06:00o
06:00Quezon
06:01City
06:01NCR
06:03po
06:03at yun
06:05din pong
06:05ginagawa
06:05ngayon
06:06ay
06:06NCR
06:07din po
06:07ang ginagawa
06:08ng
06:08World Bank
06:08at
06:09ng
06:09JICA
06:09So yung
06:10ongoing
06:10JICA
06:12World Bank
06:12master plan
06:13matatapos
06:14nila
06:14by
06:142026
06:15para din
06:16sa
06:17NCR
06:18Wala po ba
06:20sa ibang
06:20mga
06:20region
06:21o para
06:21sa buong
06:22bansa
06:22natin
06:23I recall
06:24Mr.
06:24Chair
06:24Secretary
06:26na
06:26mayroon
06:27sa
06:27Central
06:27Luzon
06:28Tama
06:29po
06:29ba
06:29yun?
06:32Meron
06:32din pong
06:33ongoing
06:34din po
06:34ng
06:35Asian
06:35Development
06:36Bank
06:36ng
06:3718
06:37major
06:38river
06:38basins
06:39nationwide
06:40pero
06:41again
06:42ongoing
06:43pa lang
06:43din po
06:44ito
06:44So
06:45mali ba
06:46yung
06:46alaala ko
06:47na mayroong
06:47master plan
06:48para sa
06:49Central
06:49Luzon
06:50I seem
06:51to remember
06:51having read
06:52na mayroon
06:52and
06:52kung mayroon
06:53kasi
06:53dapat
06:54sakop
06:54pati
06:54Bulacan
06:55May
06:57reference
06:57kung naalala ko
06:58sa
06:59Pampanga
06:59River
06:59Basin
07:00Mr.
07:00Chair
07:01Secretary
07:01we can
07:21give a
07:21copy
07:22po
07:22to the
07:22committee
07:22and
07:23to
07:23the
07:24from
07:24Honorable Senator of this April 2013 master plan for fraud management in Metro Manila and surrounding area.
07:33So, there may be a few region 3 here. I suspect there may be some buracan here.
07:39We will be able to see this again, Mr. Chairman, Madam Senator.
07:44And we will submit this to the committee.
07:47Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, Mr. Chairman.
07:49With the permission of Senator Ontivero.
07:52Yes, Mr. Chairman.
07:53Yes, just very quickly, yung information ng master plan.
07:57Can you give us a cost estimate of the completion of that master plan?
08:03Magkano yan?
08:04Kasi baka nga yung dalawang taong flood control na nalustay
08:08enough to address itong 18 river basins
08:11and address the problem of potable water, irrigation, as well as flood control.
08:17Just to see, just to inform, submit the costing, estimated cost to us.
08:27To clarify po, Mr. Chairman, cost po nung paggawa nitong master plan?
08:32No, no, no.
08:33Ayun o yung mga proyekto?
08:34If the plan is implemented, how much will it cost?
08:38How long will it take?
08:40Di ba? May plan?
08:42Senator Pangliano, would you respect, may I remind you that you're only allowed one follow-up question,
08:46unless Senator De Veros opts not to reclaim her time.
08:52My apologies.
08:53It's all right, Mr. Chair.
08:54He may pursue this last follow-up question for now.
08:56So let the clock move.
08:59Mr. Chairman, I don't have the numbers right now.
09:04Kukunin ko po yun, pero very clear po yung instructions po ng committee.
09:09Bibigay po natin yung costas nung mga proyektong kasama dun sa master plan,
09:15kung ito sana ay naimplement.
09:18Opo.
09:18Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
09:19Salamat, Mr. Chair.
09:20And importante po yan, Mr. Chair, kasi baka hindi lang doble, kundi triple ang gastos sa mamamayan nitong floodgates of corruption.
09:29Kasi yung proyekto na ginastusan, yung damage sa mga tao dahil binabaha pa rin kahit di umano may flood control projects,
09:40plus nga yung gastos din nitong mga pagbubuo ng master plan na dapat sana ay maasahang maipatupad.
09:47Could I add the request, Mr. Chair, to the Secretary, kung maaari nyo bang isumite sa komite ang mga kopya ng mga existing master plans for flood management for Metro Manila.
09:59So yun po.
10:00We will comply po.
10:02The voice na ibinansag ninyo sa Bulacan ay hindi isolated case.
10:10Yung mga contractor na sangkot sa flood control projects sa Quezon City,
10:15pamilyar na po sa atin.
10:16Napapa-sounds family kami ni Senator JV kanina.
10:19Wow Wow Builders.
10:21I am Construction Corporation.
10:23Syempre, ang walang kamatayang St. Timothy at Alpha and Omega.
10:26So, Mr. Lyskaya, sinabi nyo po sa affidavit ninyo na hindi maiiwasan magbayad sa mga regional directors at district engineers ng DPWH para makakuha ng projects.
10:41Wow, no?
10:42Sabi nyo pa ay nagbabayad kayo ng from 10 to 25 percent sa DPWH.
10:48Kinailangan nyo rin bang magbayad ng SOP para makakuha ng projects dun naman sa Quezon City?
10:54Your Honor, hindi po.
10:57Bali, kami po ay nilalapitan lang po pag once na may award na po at saka lang po kami nilalapitan.
11:04At ayaw po namin magbigay yung honor kaya lang po ay napapressure lang po kami.
11:09Ah, so hindi tama yung unang sagot nyo na hindi kayo nagbabayad.
11:15Kasi yung huling sinabi nyo ngayon ay ayaw nyo sana pero napapressure kayo.
11:20So suma total, nagbabayad din po kayo kahit sa projects sa Quezon City?
11:25Labag po sa kalooban po namin pero ano po, kasi magkakaroon po ng problema po ang collection po namin at saka yung mga projects po namin.
11:37So labag sa kalooban nyo pero dahil gusto nyong makakolekta, dahil ayon sa inyo hindi daw kayo makakakolekta kung hindi kayo nagbabayad.
11:46Again, suma total Mr. Chair, nagbabayad pa rin kayo?
11:49Ah, labag po sa kalooban namin, Your Honor.
11:54Labag man sa kalooban Mr. Chair o kusa, nagbabayad kayo, tama?
11:59Ah, napipilitan lang po kami, Your Honor.
12:03Pwede bang palitan yung verb? Huwag na yung labag o napipilitan. Nagbabayad kayo, tama?
12:08Mata,
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