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BlackRock, JPMorgan Lift Taiwan's Soaring ETF Assets to Record
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2 months ago
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00:00
Walk us through what it is about ETFs that Taiwanese investors are so enamored of.
00:04
So Eric just had his first trip to mainland China a few weeks ago, including Taiwan.
00:09
So we were very excited that he went to Taiwan, Hong Kong, Shenzhen, Shanghai and Beijing.
00:13
But Taiwan is exciting because one, it just surpassed Australia in terms of assets under management.
00:17
So as you said, it now ranks third, 230 billion in assets under management.
00:21
But what's it, 230 million, not billion.
00:24
But what's exciting is that around 60% of the population uses ETFs there.
00:29
And so that's very high.
00:30
I think Eric was saying it's one of the highest globally for any region in the market.
00:34
But in Taiwan, we've just had BlackRock and JP Morgan launch their first ever ETF in Taiwan.
00:39
So it's very exciting for them.
00:42
BlackRock has launched their S&P 500 Select 50 ETF.
00:46
And this was the first for many.
00:48
JP Morgan launched their Taiwan U.S. tech.
00:52
So ultimately still very U.S. focused.
00:53
But something to note about Taiwan is that they only just approved active ETFs last year.
00:58
And so this is the first time that they're launching.
01:01
And so the first launches came this year.
01:03
But we are seeing a lot of more international players come to Taiwan.
01:07
So we have Allianz.
01:08
We have ARK.
01:08
We have a lot of other players that are doing this.
01:11
So ultimately, Taiwan's a big market.
01:13
Their population uses ETFs, so 60%.
01:15
They're very focused on the market.
01:17
And they're very developed.
01:18
A lot of their investors are very sophisticated.
01:20
So issuers coming in in a big way.
01:22
And you mentioned, of course, Eric's first trip.
01:24
I mean, that has to be a signal of something.
01:26
Yeah.
01:27
First of all, she was a great host.
01:30
And we went and saw a lot of different people.
01:33
But the exchange, I think we have a picture we can show here.
01:35
The Shenzhen Exchange.
01:37
This is interesting because this is Rebecca, Jack, and I at the Shenzhen Exchange, which is sort of the NASDAQ of China.
01:43
One thing that was interesting to me is China has the most assets of any country there now, having passed Japan.
01:49
And they did it without Vanguard, without Bitcoin, and without any of the Dijen leverage stuff.
01:55
So that's pretty strong because if they had any of those, look out.
01:58
And I just wanted to ask you about China and how much runway they have, especially with their government buying ETFs.
02:03
So if we look at the China market, it's very interesting because just in 2021, in terms of flows, they only had $4 billion.
02:11
Now, in 2024, they had $160 billion.
02:15
So the flow has more than doubled.
02:17
Think of it, $4 billion to now $160 billion.
02:20
So ultimately, one, they do have the national team that's supporting the market.
02:23
But China has also just surpassed Japan in terms of assets under management.
02:27
China now ranks number one.
02:28
And so this happened earlier.
02:30
It happened over the summer.
02:31
And when this happened, this was a huge thing.
02:33
Ultimately, China is now doing what Bank of Japan did, and they're using ETFs to prop up the market.
02:38
And this has been very beneficial for the market, ultimately.
02:41
This is the first time ever that the government has said we're going to use ETFs to support the markets.
02:45
And because of that, it's helped ETFs rally in terms of launches.
02:49
China is at a record number of launches.
02:51
You know, Katie, you mentioned Europe is close to 300.
02:53
But in Asia Pacific, we're going to reach almost 700 by year end.
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