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In this AMA session, Zeeve co-founder Dr. Ravi Chamria speaks with Rodney Prescott, co-founder of Entry Network, about one of the biggest unlocks in the blockchain industry today — bringing institutional capital into DeFi.
They discuss how programmable compliance, zero-knowledge identity, and federated AI can finally bridge the gap between open, permissionless DeFi and the strict regulatory frameworks required by traditional finance.
If you're building in RWA tokenization, institutional DeFi, stablecoins, or composable privacy, this is a must-watch.
Key moments:
0:00 – Welcome & AMA Introduction
0:49 – Why Institutional DeFi is at an Inflection Point
1:09 – Introducing Rodney (Co-founder, Entry Network)
1:31 – Rodney’s Background (EY, PwC, Central Banks, Cardano)
3:10 – Why Institutional Participation in DeFi Is Still Limited
4:11 – The Structural Gap: Open DeFi vs. Regulatory Requirements
5:20 – Risks Institutions Face (AML/KYC, Tainted Assets, Investigations)
6:43 – The Rise of Tokenization (JPMorgan, BlackRock, RWAs)
8:14 – Why Compliance Needs to Be Proactive, Not Reactive
9:35 – Public Protocols vs Closed Consortia (Canton, Hyperledger, etc.)
10:18 – What is Programmable Compliance? (Explained Simply)
11:03 – Zero-Knowledge IDs & Clean Asset Flow
12:27 – Federated LLMs for Real-Time Regulatory Adaptation
13:45 – Why Pre-Transaction Compliance Changes Everything
15:01 – ZK Identity + Compliance Stack Overview
19:16 – How Builders (Fintech & Web3) Can Integrate Entry’s SDK
20:47 – API / SDK Approach for Developers & Institutions
21:20 – Why Entry Built on Avalanche L1 (9000)
22:57 – How Zeeve Supports Secure, Enterprise-Grade Deployment
24:45 – Interoperability & Cross-Chain RWA Transfers
25:33 – What’s Coming Next: Entry’s MVP Launch & Partnerships
26:50 – Closing Thoughts: The Future Where DeFi & TradFi Become “Fi”
🚀 About Entry Network
Entry Network introduces programmable compliance for institutional-grade on-chain finance — enabling clean parties, clean assets, and jurisdiction-aware transactions, powered by:
💠Zero-Knowledge Identity (ZKID)
💠Federated AI Compliance Engines
💠Avalanche 9000 Sovereign Chain Infrastructure
Learn more: https://entry.network
🧱 About Zeeve"
Zeeve provides enterprise-grade blockchain infrastructure and rollup deployments with automation, monitoring, SLAs, and compliance support for institutions and Web3 networks.
Explore: https://zeeve.io
They discuss how programmable compliance, zero-knowledge identity, and federated AI can finally bridge the gap between open, permissionless DeFi and the strict regulatory frameworks required by traditional finance.
If you're building in RWA tokenization, institutional DeFi, stablecoins, or composable privacy, this is a must-watch.
Key moments:
0:00 – Welcome & AMA Introduction
0:49 – Why Institutional DeFi is at an Inflection Point
1:09 – Introducing Rodney (Co-founder, Entry Network)
1:31 – Rodney’s Background (EY, PwC, Central Banks, Cardano)
3:10 – Why Institutional Participation in DeFi Is Still Limited
4:11 – The Structural Gap: Open DeFi vs. Regulatory Requirements
5:20 – Risks Institutions Face (AML/KYC, Tainted Assets, Investigations)
6:43 – The Rise of Tokenization (JPMorgan, BlackRock, RWAs)
8:14 – Why Compliance Needs to Be Proactive, Not Reactive
9:35 – Public Protocols vs Closed Consortia (Canton, Hyperledger, etc.)
10:18 – What is Programmable Compliance? (Explained Simply)
11:03 – Zero-Knowledge IDs & Clean Asset Flow
12:27 – Federated LLMs for Real-Time Regulatory Adaptation
13:45 – Why Pre-Transaction Compliance Changes Everything
15:01 – ZK Identity + Compliance Stack Overview
19:16 – How Builders (Fintech & Web3) Can Integrate Entry’s SDK
20:47 – API / SDK Approach for Developers & Institutions
21:20 – Why Entry Built on Avalanche L1 (9000)
22:57 – How Zeeve Supports Secure, Enterprise-Grade Deployment
24:45 – Interoperability & Cross-Chain RWA Transfers
25:33 – What’s Coming Next: Entry’s MVP Launch & Partnerships
26:50 – Closing Thoughts: The Future Where DeFi & TradFi Become “Fi”
🚀 About Entry Network
Entry Network introduces programmable compliance for institutional-grade on-chain finance — enabling clean parties, clean assets, and jurisdiction-aware transactions, powered by:
💠Zero-Knowledge Identity (ZKID)
💠Federated AI Compliance Engines
💠Avalanche 9000 Sovereign Chain Infrastructure
Learn more: https://entry.network
🧱 About Zeeve"
Zeeve provides enterprise-grade blockchain infrastructure and rollup deployments with automation, monitoring, SLAs, and compliance support for institutions and Web3 networks.
Explore: https://zeeve.io
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00:00Hi everyone, welcome to today's AMA. My name is Ravi, I'm the co-founder Senior Adzif and we are very, very thrilled to host this session with one of the most forward-thinking projects today in the institutional DeFi space, that is Entry Network.
00:18So institutional DeFi is at an inflection point, we are already seeing a lot of traction this year, stablecoins, some of the regulations like Genius Act or MICA coming into picture and there's a massive potential, you know, like trillions of dollars.
00:37Yet most traditional institutions today, they are careful, they are cautious because of the compliance and security gaps.
00:46And Entry Network is tackling exactly this challenge by blending programmable compliance, privacy, automation and a lot of very exciting stuff.
00:58So I'm very, very excited to have this AMA. And today we have Rodney from Entry Network to be part of this AMA.
01:11So first of all, Rodney, welcome on this AMA and we would like to start by knowing a bit about yourself, your Web3 journey so far and your motivation behind Entry Network.
01:22Thanks very much, Ravi. It's actually interesting. So a whole lot of things have converged. So I've come out of traditional finance. I've been an SME for blockchain for both EWI and PwC, including in Asia.
01:38Done work with central banks where they've looked at using blockchain technology to settle accounts between banks. I've been working with it for a long time.
01:47And I've also worked with Kodana. I did a strategy piece with IOHK and also with the Kodana Foundation.
01:55And along my journey, I did an MSC in digital currencies. And unlike you, I haven't got my doctorate yet. I am working on it.
02:03And as part of my research, I came to, when I was looking at my area of research as in novel assets.
02:09And the challenge I started finding was, one, there wasn't a lot of good research on it.
02:13And two, nobody's ready for it. Plus, all my work when I worked with consulting was the challenge of getting regulated institutions to look at blockchain, let alone Web3.
02:29It was a big challenge. So, and that actually prompted me to write a book, which is called The Compliance Revolution.
02:35And it's talking about zero knowledge and also blockchain. So, yeah, it's been an interesting journey.
02:42I've worked in payments and banking for over 20 years and capital markets as well. So, lots going on.
02:49And that's, I think, super exciting. And your past experience, your journey sounds incredible.
02:55I think that, you know, now totally makes sense, you know, what you're trying to do and the problem that you're solving in the institutional DeFi space.
03:06So, you know, Rodney, we have seen that over the last five years post-COVID, we have seen the surge of DeFi.
03:14And we have seen, you know, very high TVLs, like 180 billion, but still a very less percentage, you know, just in single digit, the capital that comes from the institutional money.
03:28And that's where we see the real gap, you know, institutional investors.
03:33And we know regulatory clarity, which is getting better now, at least in 2025.
03:38And then risk controls, KYC, other compliances, whether it be data, jurisdictions, and lots and lots of challenges out there, which are major blockers today.
03:49Based on your experience, based on what you're trying to do, there is clearly a structural gap that we see between DeFi as open innovation.
03:58And TradeFi is compliance requirements.
04:01So how do you see this gap and what really is holding those trillions of institutional dollars that can come into DeFi?
04:10It's actually really two things.
04:14And I think just as a point of interest, over 80% of most large banks' money is spent on being compliant and keeping their systems going.
04:23So not innovating.
04:24That's one big impediment.
04:26The second impediment is they're highly regulated.
04:30So you've got over 100 trillion US dollars stuck because the first thing that happens is, do we know the parties?
04:40So things like the travel rule is an example.
04:43The next thing that happens is, do we know the asset?
04:46Is it tainted?
04:47So you imagine going to a risk committee or compliance or legal and say, oh, we're going to stake some Ethereum.
04:52Well, is any of that tainted?
04:55Because they're going to worry about their assets or their funds being held for investigations or fined because they've actually dealt with tainted assets.
05:05So that's even before you get into the systems that they use.
05:09It's actually the policy processes and the regulations they have to comply with.
05:14So that's the biggest problem they've got.
05:17If they can't be sure who they're dealing with, a wallet address is not who you're dealing with.
05:22It's an address.
05:24It's a bit like sending something to a bank account.
05:25You theoretically know who the owner is and where the bank account is.
05:32But there's a lot that has to go on if you're in the institutional space to actually send money to a bank account, let alone get money back.
05:40So I think the biggest problem is it's outside the risk mandate.
05:46And you look at some of the fines they get.
05:47And then you have the wonderful things like Mt. Gox and you also have FDX.
05:58You know, you've got a lot of things that have happened that have tainted a lot of opinions about this.
06:03And a lot of the regulators are very, very worried.
06:06Got it.
06:07No, I think that's a very interesting point that you have mentioned.
06:09So but the way I see it is that is only one side of it.
06:13So one side is there, we have digital assets and how you can, how the banks can manage digital assets in a very compliant manner.
06:22And there are quite a few startups now who are helping like Fireblocks is pretty big.
06:26And then there are a few other digital asset management.
06:29I think a lot of fintechs have got into digital asset management, bringing desired compliances, security and so on support.
06:36But the other side is there is a lot of capital, which is ready to be tokenized.
06:42And we are seeing a lot of interesting initiatives, whether it be Kinexis from JP Morgan or various like BlackRock, you know, tokenizing the treasury funds.
06:50So what do you see on this side where we see traditional assets, including fiat, coming into the Web3 space through the means of tokenization and yet managing all the compliances?
07:02Well, actually, it's really interesting.
07:04So there's some really good people out there that, you know, I can't have forgotten because I was at an event recently and they specialize in yield for institutions.
07:12And if you talk about, you know, everyone getting into stable coins and the big banks, JP Morgan, a lot of that's based on their own platform.
07:21So it's not open in a lot of ways.
07:24It's still a risk.
07:26A lot of institutions will still back away from it.
07:29So you're right.
07:29There is a lot coming on board and it's going to get even more.
07:32Right now you've got stable coins and most people have recognized that stable coins are the best thing for cross-border payments.
07:38If you're going to use stable coins and banks are starting to look at that.
07:42So they're looking at how they manage that and is the asset itself compliant?
07:47So a good example of that would be circles accepted in Europe, whereas here there isn't.
07:53So you've got regulations, you've got jurisdictions and whether you fit in with them.
07:58And you've also got lots of challenges around was that US dollar stable coin used in some illegal activity?
08:05So you've still got a lot of that suspicion there.
08:07So I'm not saying that there aren't organizations starting to get on board.
08:11In real world assets, tokenization, there are some platforms that just specialize in doing that.
08:15But a lot of the solutions require backward looking forensics.
08:21That's where we differentiate.
08:22We want to deal with clean parties and clean assets.
08:26So do it at the point before you actually transact.
08:29Use AI, federated AI, to work out whether an asset's clean or the parties can transact.
08:37So, and I think that's a big differentiator.
08:40The other thing is some of these solutions are often in closed groups.
08:45I don't know.
08:45I've been around for quite a while.
08:46Also, there was a lot of stuff based on Hyperledger that was closed.
08:50There is R3, their solution that a lot of the banks invested in.
08:57You know, there's lots of different people trying different solutions.
09:02But regulators are now going, actually, well, we're probably going to have to interact with public blockchains.
09:06And that's where it starts getting very interesting.
09:10I think you're absolutely right now.
09:12I absolutely get your point.
09:14You are very right.
09:15So if you see Kinexys, et cetera, like the use case of tokenized deposits, or, for example, Canton Network, which is focusing on capital markets.
09:25So there are quite a few initiatives, but they are still consortium led and in a closed circuit.
09:29But the way we see it is, and this is based on my experience that I'm talking about, that now banks are seriously looking at some of the public protocols to see how public protocols stack.
09:42Because if they want to open up, they need to have interoperability.
09:46They need to have compliances at the level of decentralized networks, which is actually not very easy.
09:53So I'm totally getting your point that you are right to bring it in the public domain in the retail side.
09:59Rather than just getting stuck on the wholesale side, I think it's definitely required much, much more.
10:06So one of the aspects going through entry.network, this whole idea of programmable compliance.
10:15And we have seen programmable money.
10:17We have seen programmable liquidity.
10:19But compliance as a code is something very new and seems very, very powerful.
10:24So, Rodney, could you break it down for our audience as to what does programmable compliance really mean in practice?
10:33And how does it transform frameworks like MICA or FATCA and SEC guidelines when we talk about on-chain implementation?
10:46Okay.
10:47The key thing is we talk about clean parties and clean assets.
10:50The way of doing that, we use three components.
10:53We have zero-knowledge IDs.
10:57Why is that important?
10:58Because you don't want personally-identifiable information transmitted.
11:01And often it's not required.
11:02If I'm looking at a business, I want to know who the principal shareholders are or beneficiaries.
11:08You know, there's all the standard set of tools that traditional finance is used to having to apply.
11:14You can't do that with a wallet.
11:15So we can do that and we apply zero-knowledge IDs for that part.
11:19We then have a regulated asset registry using a high-speed Avalanche 9000.
11:25And thanks to you guys, an enterprise or, in fact, a banking-level solution there to enable settlement finality and high transaction speeds.
11:37As well as, you know, we're still supporting the decentralization by having multiple nodes.
11:43And the last bit is federated LLMs.
11:47That's where we're slightly different because federated LLMs mean we can have some LLMs in the European that are focused on MECA.
11:55We can have some for the Genius Act in the U.S.
11:57And when a transaction goes, it's actually looking at it real time.
12:02Now, remember, the first thing is when you get onboarded, we use the AIs to help onboard both the assets and the parties that are going to transact.
12:11And it applies the rules because they're going to change all the time.
12:14So you could apply MAS rules to Singapore and then correlate because you're actually going to Europe.
12:20You've got to do MECA as well.
12:21So start and, of course, the things like the travel rule.
12:24So it's actually building a platform that we do it before the transaction happens rather than transact, gets held somewhere.
12:31So I can speak from personal experience.
12:33Even in the traditional banking system, things can go wrong.
12:36It was involved some stuff with SWIFT.
12:38And it took three months to get $100 million back for a large enterprise.
12:42They were not a happy campus.
12:43And it's not unusual, whereas if you do it up front, you know that the transaction is going to go through.
12:51It's not going to take a long time.
12:53And more importantly, the party and the asset's clean.
12:57So that's really important for real-world assets.
12:59And it's not just for retail.
13:01I think if you think about it, there's a large number of financial institutions that aren't in a position to join some of these big consortiums.
13:10And part of that is if you look at SWIFT, SWIFT is the global, you know, effectively for shoveling money around between banks or the Bank of International Settlements, the central banks.
13:22The interesting thing with all those guys is a lot of people and a lot of organizations and a lot of banks can't participate because they either don't have the submission capital or liquidity or they aren't in a jurisdiction that's allowed to.
13:36So you've got a lot of restrictions in there anyhow.
13:39And then you get into actual enterprises.
13:41Say you want to do trade finance.
13:42Those, you know, would not be allowed to join some of the banking consortiums.
13:48So I think having it as a programmable compliance with the concept of doing it before you transact and before you onboard is very important.
14:00Absolutely.
14:00I think I find this concept very, very fascinating.
14:05So encoding compliance logic into these smart contracts.
14:09There has been, we have worked in the past with ERC 735, 745 for the decentralized identities and 1400 and a few other ERCs for compliances.
14:20I think this is actually very, very interesting.
14:22This removes the overheads for any bank or any other financial institution to see whether they are, you know, dealing in a compliant token, whether it be tokenized asset, whether it be native digital asset.
14:40No, this is absolutely amazing.
14:42So I think you quickly mentioned about ZKID and federated LNM.
14:49So I believe that these are strongest technical differentiators in the way entry is handling identity and privacy and other compliances.
15:01So could you walk us through how these two work together?
15:05And are there any other components that you are planning to make it, you know, which is like an ecosystem handling all the compliance concerns of institutions?
15:16Yeah, so I don't care where the assets come from or even what chain the assets sitting on.
15:23Once it's wrapped and is effectively on our compliance layer, then it's fine because it's clean.
15:28So there's two parts to it.
15:30The zero knowledge is you actually need to get a digital ID, effectively a tokenized ID.
15:35So it's a digital ID, either for an institution or the individuals.
15:38And you probably need, you will need both.
15:40So you're a company, the principal shareholders or whoever's allowed to transact would need to be identified.
15:46That's very, that's usually covered by financial regulations.
15:49All important officers have to be blah, blah, blah.
15:52So we would allow them to have, we would help them create those appropriate ZKIDs.
15:58That's really important.
15:59So we've got an identity for the organization or the enterprise and the parties that need to have it, especially if they're approving things.
16:05That's part of the onboarding process.
16:08Exactly the same for the assets, except the assets don't need a ZKID because they don't need to be obscured.
16:18With the next element that's really important is the actual federated LLMs.
16:23So they're effectively the real-time learning tools.
16:27They're applying the regulations based on the jurisdictions you want to act in.
16:31So the example I would use that I think is quite interesting is I'm sending some, you know, I want to do a transaction between USA, a particular state, and Hong Kong.
16:43At the moment, that's probably okay.
16:45But in two weeks' time, there may be a bit more blow up between the USA and Hong Kong, or it may become a restricted activity.
16:53But you could send that same asset to the, or you could do a transaction with that with Europe.
16:58So the LLMs are going to be watching, and they would look at that transaction and go, well, you can't do that to Hong Kong anymore, and this is the reason why, but these jurisdictions are okay.
17:06Even if the parties are already allowed, so you're dealing with the entities that are actually going to be transacting and the asset, because that's always going to change.
17:18Stablecoins are probably the best example because you'll see some jurisdictions blocking or not allowing certain types of stablecoins or effectively flagging them as illegal.
17:27So you're going to have this continuous, changing, regulatory environment, and that's what we're going to need.
17:36So we're going to expand that.
17:37So obviously, we're going to start, you know, working with the Mika Foundation, as in, because that's a, we've got a lot of experience, a lot of knowledge in that area.
17:44But apply, as we go along, things definitely like the Genius Act.
17:48Actually, the Genius Act is one that really intrigues me because the Act's quite good, but they haven't figured out who's actually going to enforce it, which agency.
17:56And in fact, if you look at it, you really need to be a bank to be compliant, which is why only some of the big tech companies and very large banks are finding it okay to go and launch their own stablecoins.
18:08Now they've got a framework to deal with, but they're still going to have to figure out which regulatory authority they're going to deal with.
18:13So those things are going to change and progress and grow.
18:17So the way we look at growing is literally have the zero knowledge and the identities, have the, you know, the initial LLMs, and expand that as we go to look at other transactional types that, you know, have regulatory compliance.
18:31So if I'm a Web3, you know, and I'm really excited, I've got a great decentralized DeFi solution, and I'd like some of that regulatory involved, then I know how I can do it.
18:43Because I'm going to need to know who the parties are, so I can do the travel rule.
18:46And I'm also going to need to know that I am compliant in the assets that are being dealt with.
18:51Got it. Got it. No, I think that's a very interesting distinction you made in terms of maturity of the regulation itself.
18:59I think Genius Act is something very, very new, whereas MICA has been there for quite some time, and Europe, I think, has been leading on the regulation side.
19:08So just a small follow-up question.
19:10So we have a lot of startups, fintechs, you know, who are building use cases like cross-border emittances and capital market use cases, and then tokenization of real-world assets.
19:25So they can use ZKID and programmable compliance, your federated LLMs, as an SDK, as a tool, or how does your offering work?
19:37That's exactly the way we're engineering that.
19:39So the reality is, we'll have a sample gap, you know, an example or for some of the organizations, you know, like a trader or a brokerage might be perfectly okay.
19:51We'll have a front end, but we'll have APIs and that because depending on who you are, you want to integrate it.
19:58Now, a lot of brokerage, well, that's the other challenge.
20:01One of the jobs I've done in the past is actually changing out legacy payments or settlements between the banks, and it took two years.
20:11And if the Treasury and the central bank hadn't said, you have to have it finished by this time, they'd probably still be doing it.
20:18It's very, very difficult to do.
20:20So you need to show some way that you can integrate or assist with what they're already using.
20:24So using APIs and being able to pass information in a compliant and secure way is very, very important.
20:31So for some of the smaller guys on Web3 projects, you can integrate it into their project or, sorry, let's get rid of that, integrate it into their project, or you could, they could use our tools.
20:46So we'll have some tools available, but the other thing is you can integrate it in your project.
20:50So it basically becomes painless or seamless for them.
20:54Got it.
20:55No, I think that's very interesting.
20:56And we definitely would be very, very interested to explore this further for some of our customers and, you know, add some of these components into our partner integrations.
21:08So now, you know, coming on a bit on the architecture side.
21:13So you chose to build as a sovereign L1 using Avalanche L1 stack rather than, you know, using a shared subnet or a EVM rollup or any other design.
21:25So, and we know that, you know, Avalanche L1 offers very high TPS, low latency, high customizability.
21:34So, you know, there's quite a few configurations and customizations that you can do to achieve control over economics or compliance rules and upgrades, updates, et cetera.
21:45So from your perspective, what was your motivation to choose Avalanche L1 and, you know, how Zeev infrastructure expertise helped you bring this network to life?
21:58Okay.
21:59Well, actually leveraging you guys is Zeev has been really important, but the reason Avalanche is it's quite logical.
22:05There's two factors that I think are really, really important.
22:07One, the very fast settlement time in financial services, certainly in banking, that settlement finalities are really, really important thing.
22:20I'm not going to go into it, but it's an interesting area.
22:23And in some cases it's legislated by, you know, it's part of the law governing the central bank and banking systems.
22:29So you need to have insurity of settlement.
22:33The other thing is you need a reasonable transaction volume.
22:35And the third thing that I really like, and I think it's really important about Avalanche 9000, is you can go across other Avalanche 9000 chains.
22:44So as an example, it allows us at time, you know, potentially to build effectively federated Avalanche 9000 chains.
22:53That's very important.
22:54There's a good set of tooling and, you know, its EVM is very robust.
22:58And again, because you provide such high level of SLAs and compliance and all the certifications that are needed, it makes us a lot more confident in dealing with regulated institutions.
23:15You know, my experience is if you can't tick a couple of the boxes like SOC 2 or something like that, then you're going to have a, you won't get them.
23:23Even if it is a great idea or a wonderful tool, you just won't get an institution using it.
23:29No, absolutely.
23:29Yeah, you're absolutely right.
23:31I think from an architecture standpoint, Avalanche does offer very low latency, very high performance, faster settlement times.
23:38And on the other side, you know, there's a very robust partnership ecosystem that we are building now that we started with just a few of them that we picked from our roll-up partnership ecosystem.
23:51But now we have already, you know, for interoperability side, one is ICT that you have rightly mentioned, you can liars with other Avalanche L1 chains.
23:59But then we have also now added support for USDC bridge contracts, as well as through Hyperlane, you know, connecting with Ethereum, EVM chains, Solana, and other non-EVM chains as well.
24:11So, and then there are tons of other initiatives that we are taking there.
24:17So, of course, Avalanche and L1 is a very solid choice, and we are very excited to partner with you in this journey.
24:26It's a very innovative venture, and it's pretty cool to be your partner on the infra side.
24:34So, we're really excited and, you know, looking forward to it.
24:39It's so refreshing to find a partner and an environment that makes it easier or, you know, accelerates your deployment and getting on and doing things.
24:51If you go to a lot of, I mean, look at the other, you know, a lot of the big cloud.
24:56Even when they do offer a service, they don't necessarily, it's, they're usually slow to apply, and there's a lot of challenges.
25:02Whereas, working with you guys, those problems are gone.
25:06We don't, it's not an issue.
25:09Oh, absolutely.
25:10So, now, you know, we are coming to the end of our AMA.
25:14One last question.
25:15So, what's next for entry?
25:16What can institutions or community expect in the coming months?
25:21And how do you see this shaping the broader landscape of compliant DeFi?
25:26I think it's actually going to be really exciting.
25:28So, Q1 next year, we'll have our MVP up, focusing on the ZKs and the, you know, effectively the AI compliance.
25:39But the other thing we're looking to see is partnerships.
25:44You know, we want to have, by the end of 2026, a thousand partners on there.
25:50So, that could be a thousand institutions or projects using our platform.
25:56And as part of that, we're going to need to work with partners.
25:59So, that's another thing that we're working on as well, is partners will help do the integration deployment.
26:04Because, as I said, a lot of organizations don't have the resources themselves and find it very difficult.
26:09So, just like we're really leveraging you, we also want to help institutions leverage our solution in as simple a way as possible.
26:20So, those are the tools that we're going to start rolling out and that's part of our vision for the future.
26:25Got it.
26:26I think very, very interesting.
26:27Thank you very much.
26:57And I think it's inspiring to see how Entry is redefining, reimagining DeFi infrastructure, especially from a compliance standpoint, from privacy, composable privacy.
27:10And for everyone listening, if you are building institutional DeFi, RWA platforms, you can learn more about Zeev infrastructure and Entry's programmable compliance on chain, on our socials.
27:21And follow us, share, and keep building.
27:29Thank you very much.
27:30Really great pleasure to speak.
27:32And it is exciting times.
27:33I mean, that's why I'm involved in the project.
27:35And I said, I wrote the book as well.
27:37Because it is a big challenge and it needs to be dealt to.
27:40Because once you start dealing with it, you'll see that institutional money be able to roll into DeFi.
27:45And in fact, one of the comments I made in the book was, right now you have DeFi and TradFi.
27:51Give us some time in the future.
27:53We will just have Fi.
27:54Oh, I am 100% B and I'm on board.
27:59And I'll definitely love to, you know, have a look at the book and, you know, chat with you sometime in future.
28:08No, that'd be great.
28:09I'm really enjoying this.
28:10Thank you so much.
28:11Great.
28:12Thanks, everyone, for joining this AMA.
28:14And do follow us for more such AMAs, bringing incredible startups, innovations in the Rep3 space.
28:22Keep smiling.
28:22Keep building.
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