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In this episode of Web3 Voice, Thomas Abraham (CRO) and Ghan Vashishtha (Co-founder & CTO) from Zeeve share their on-ground insights from Korea Blockchain Week and Token2049 Singapore — two of the most influential global events shaping the future of Web3.
They discuss emerging ecosystem trends, lessons from engaging with leading builders and investors, and what to expect next at Cosmoverse and Devconnect Buenos Aires.
Whether you’re a founder, developer, or investor, this episode gives you an insider’s perspective on where Web3 is headed in 2025.
⏱️ Timestamps:
(0:00) Intro – What is Web3 Voice?
(0:25) Meet Thomas & Ghan – Zeeve’s on-ground crew
(1:10) Inside Korea Blockchain Week – Energy, insights & crowd
(2:05) Token2049 Singapore – Where builders meet capital
(3:40) Key ecosystem insights – What’s trending in 2025
(5:00) RWA, interoperability & infrastructure adoption
(6:45) Zeeve’s role in powering enterprise-grade Web3 infrastructure
(8:10) What’s next – Cosmoverse & Devconnect Buenos Aires
(9:30) Final thoughts – Global momentum & community
🎧 Watch, learn & build with Zeeve.
Subscribe for more conversations on Web3 infrastructure, RWAs, and enterprise blockchain adoption.
They discuss emerging ecosystem trends, lessons from engaging with leading builders and investors, and what to expect next at Cosmoverse and Devconnect Buenos Aires.
Whether you’re a founder, developer, or investor, this episode gives you an insider’s perspective on where Web3 is headed in 2025.
⏱️ Timestamps:
(0:00) Intro – What is Web3 Voice?
(0:25) Meet Thomas & Ghan – Zeeve’s on-ground crew
(1:10) Inside Korea Blockchain Week – Energy, insights & crowd
(2:05) Token2049 Singapore – Where builders meet capital
(3:40) Key ecosystem insights – What’s trending in 2025
(5:00) RWA, interoperability & infrastructure adoption
(6:45) Zeeve’s role in powering enterprise-grade Web3 infrastructure
(8:10) What’s next – Cosmoverse & Devconnect Buenos Aires
(9:30) Final thoughts – Global momentum & community
🎧 Watch, learn & build with Zeeve.
Subscribe for more conversations on Web3 infrastructure, RWAs, and enterprise blockchain adoption.
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00:00Hi, everyone. Welcome to Vetri Voice by Zeev, where we talk about all things app chains,
00:06roll-ups, DeFi, AI, gaming, and similar interests in industries, of course.
00:11I'm Kartik. I'm the Digital Media Manager at Zeev.
00:14Today's special discussion will be on the topic of networking and culture.
00:19Thomas and Gunn, who have attended KBW and Protocol Day 49,
00:24will be offering the behind-the-scenes for us today.
00:27And as I just mentioned, our guest speakers today are Gunn Vashishtra, who is the co-founder and CTO at Zeev,
00:33and Thomas Abraham, who is the CRO of Zeev.
00:37Welcome to the Zeev Vetri Voice, Commerce, and Gunn.
00:40So please introduce yourselves, and followed by you can start discussing with whatever happened at KBW and Protocol Day 49.
00:49And I'm here if you need any assistance.
00:54Yeah. Hi, folks.
00:55My name is Thomas Abraham.
00:57I'm the Chief Revenue Officer at Zeev, and we are very excited to be here today, yeah,
01:03chatting about what really happened at KBW in Seoul and Token 2049 in Singapore.
01:12Absolutely right, Thomas.
01:13Hi, everyone.
01:14My name is Gunn Vashishtra.
01:15I'm the co-founder of CTO at Zeev.
01:16And what not happened at KBW and Singapore Token 2049.
01:21There's a lot to bring to light.
01:22There's a lot to share as an experience.
01:25There's a lot of fun element.
01:28And, you know, it was a great, you know, two weeks of whirlwind, which we were into.
01:36And, you know, first Seoul and then Singapore back to back from KBW to Token 29.
01:41And two completely different vibes, but equally fascinating.
01:45We had everything from subway adventures and translation fails to D-Panels and AI Web3
01:50perception and D-Pen.
01:52Isn't it, Thomas?
01:54No, no, no.
01:54Absolutely.
01:54And it was wonderful to have you Gunn as a partner in crime for both of this long 15-day
02:03sojourn that we had in Seoul and Singapore, right?
02:07Right.
02:07So I think, yeah.
02:08So I think it was really wonderful.
02:10And I think, you know, it was our first KBW.
02:15So Z for the first time was really attending KBW and it was our first trip to Seoul.
02:20And what an eye-opener, right?
02:22I mean, it was right from the time we landed at the airport, absolutely world-class airport
02:27they have there.
02:28And then amazing infrastructure that city, you know, brings forth.
02:35And I think, so for me personally, you know, when I go to our city, I first try and figure
02:40out what is the public transport that's available because if you use public transport in a particular
02:46city, you really get a good feel for that city.
02:49And then you, you know, you really get to understand the entire geography of that city
02:54a lot better.
02:55So, you know, I think both Gunn and I, we used, you know, the first thing we did was really
03:00get those travel cards and we used, you know, the subway, the trains and the buses so effectively.
03:07So that, that, that was really amazing.
03:10So that's the first thing that really struck me.
03:12How about you, Gunn?
03:13I mean, what really struck you as the, as what was your first impression of Seoul?
03:20Right.
03:20No, it was really, really impactful.
03:22You know, I remember navigating Seoul as non-Korean speaker was like hilarious and yet
03:28humbling.
03:29The subway system was like a multi-chain network, tons of layers, everything well-connected,
03:34but you still have to guess the right bridge.
03:36And we many times went on to the other side of the subway where we were not supposed to
03:42be.
03:42And, you know, we probably became the top users of translation apps and GPT that week.
03:47And especially because, you know, I was supposed to be translating menus, science, even food
03:51ingredients, trying to make sure that the tour wouldn't turn out to be a squid.
03:56But honestly, as those moments make, you know, you realize that our global connection mirrors
04:00decentralization and people help you even if you don't share a language and how, how, how
04:06important getting into the tech nowadays is if you have to travel across the world and
04:10see different cultures and yet, yet, yet, you know, make these conferences and events impactful.
04:17Yeah, no, absolutely.
04:18And I think the interesting thing about Seoul is that they have some, about Korea in general,
04:24is that they have some, you know, basic standards of their own.
04:27For example, you know, Google Maps don't work there, right?
04:30So you've got to download the neighbor map, which was, I think, I think Gunn did comment
04:36when we were in Singapore that he thought the neighbor map was better than the Google Maps.
04:39So that was amazing.
04:41Likewise, you know, most of these cities now have their own local cabs, right?
04:46So you have the Kakao app and you don't have the Ubers of the world there.
04:50So I think, but, you know, despite the fact that, so it's a country where, you know, most
04:55people don't speak English.
04:57So, but because of the fact that you're technology enabled on your, on your phone, you can pretty
05:04much navigate the city without asking anyone any questions.
05:07So I think, I think that was the beauty of it.
05:09It was, it was friction free.
05:13It was amazing.
05:14People were wonderful.
05:16And I think overall, it was a fantastic experience being in Seoul.
05:20And I think, you know, coming now to more to the business end of it, obviously we didn't,
05:24we were not at the main event of KBW, which in hindsight was, was, was a good position because
05:29what we heard from a lot of people was that, you know, as always, the main event is extremely
05:35packed and crowded and, you know, you really find it difficult to connect with people and
05:40network and what have you.
05:41So, so I think for us, for Zee, what really has worked well at KBW token and at various
05:48other events is to be a lot more focused in terms of, in terms of what are those side
05:54events that you want to attend, number one.
05:56But I think over the last two years, what has also happened is that our business has matured
05:59significantly.
06:00And because of that maturity in our business, we are able to now get a lot of one-on-one meetings
06:06right through, you know, those four, five days that we are in a particular city.
06:10So we actually had a very packed calendar of a lot of one-on-one meetings, as well as,
06:15you know, very niche side events, which were highly curated, which only had a small number
06:21of people, which were very focused and extremely relevant for our business.
06:26Right.
06:27I mean, what do you think, Zeev?
06:28What do you think, Gan?
06:28I don't know.
06:31Absolutely.
06:31In fact, I mean, these conferences were not just about being there in a big crowded event,
06:38running across or among people, and then figuring out how it works and what, what, what way which
06:44it works.
06:45And if I have to say, you know, define KBW in Singapore, I would say KBW was like, you
06:51know, it has this deep Web3 and infrastructure vibe at it, smaller, more focused.
06:56You could walk into different events, hear people discussing different technologies around
07:00Web3, AI, deep and stable coin, RWAs.
07:04And, and, you know, while Singapore was like huge investor, founders, ecosystems, number
07:10of side events were so many that you could not even brain run them, let alone, you know,
07:15going there.
07:16But, but again, in the bigger picture was RWAs, stable coins, AI, and how everything ties into
07:21real world utility.
07:22So, you know, our focus, like Thomas mentioned, you just mentioned, you know, was to get into
07:27those focused meetings where we discussed, you know, the use of protection technology
07:33in, in most of these sectors and how to turn, you know, discussions into reality, into use
07:38cases, into production chains, into infrastructure, power packed for, for, you know, the future
07:42of tomorrow.
07:43Yeah.
07:44And I think talking about KBW specifically, I thought it was an amazing one week in Seoul
07:53attending meetings, attending some of these side events, because we found that, you know,
07:59many of them were very, very focused and, and, and extremely targeted.
08:02Uh, and, and, and I must, uh, outline a few, uh, things that were very useful.
08:08I think ZK Sync had this wonderful event where, uh, which was highly curated.
08:12It was, you know, just about, uh, 50, 60 of us in a room.
08:15It was a, was a sit down dinner.
08:17Of course, there was a great theme around, uh, tuna carving and so on, which happened, which
08:21was very memorable.
08:22And, uh, we had the good fortune of meeting with, uh, you know, Alex, uh, Gluchowski was the
08:27CEO of ZK Sync, as well as some of the big, uh, chains, uh, like Abstract and GRVT and
08:33what have you.
08:34Uh, so it was a great, uh, networking opportunity at the same time to be able to meet with some
08:38of the leadership folks at ZK Sync.
08:41Uh, likewise, uh, you know, Avalanche had their own event, which was again, a very targeted
08:46event and, uh, and, and, and extremely useful because, you know, we were able to, you know,
08:50make some book connections there, uh, meet up with, there were lots of folks from Avalanche
08:54from the U.S. who were down, so, uh, like John Naas and a whole lot of other people.
08:58So it was a great way of connecting with many of them as well as some potential prospects
09:02over there.
09:03So I think, I think, I think, I think, I think what we're seeing is that, you know, some
09:06of these events are really helping us, uh, you know, go to the next level in our, uh,
09:11collaboration with many of these chains.
09:13And, and, and of course there were many of the, many other emerging chains, uh, you know,
09:18like for example, you know, Kaya, which is largely Korea and Singapore driven or, you
09:23know, zero G and what have you, and, uh, and, and maybe, uh, Ghan, yeah, you can talk
09:27about, you know, some of the, uh, speaking opportunities that you had as well.
09:32Right.
09:33Yeah.
09:33So starting, you know, from Korea, I was on the panel, uh, you know, in the hack, hack
09:38summit where, you know, it was moderated by, you know, Jake from zero G and, you know,
09:44the discussion topics were like really, really curated for the future of infrastructure.
09:48That we will, we will very boldly discussing about how AI is transforming the reality of,
09:54uh, you know, things, things we operate around us and all, and how web three is, is now not
09:59becoming a competitive to AI, but it's becoming a, it's a, it's a pathway to how the AI is to
10:06be achieved in future.
10:07And then we were discussing how this, this can pave the way for a new generation of infrastructure,
10:13enabling AI using web three.
10:15So that was very, very interesting in terms of how boldly people were discussing these
10:20topics and this, this year, you know, it was started refreshingly grounded.
10:24Narratives weren't just marketing lines anymore.
10:26And these panels, I could hear a lot, many fellow panelists and other panels, which I could
10:30hear, it's not just marketing lines anymore.
10:33People were discussing real infrastructure, uh, real use cases like RWA deepened and AI had
10:39builders, pilots, and even ugly traction, which, which was amazing to hear and see.
10:45And, and if you, if you see, if you continue to see 2023, we've been there at token as well.
10:51It was modularity to NL2 2024.
10:55It was about integrations and, uh, several, many on top services.
11:00The theme is definitely converging into an infrastructure first story.
11:04And we could witness the same to those panels, uh, you know, which I, I was fortunate to become
11:10part of where we were talking infrastructure at scale and, and the same, you know, when
11:14I was at the AI frontier among some panelists, like, you know, Arpit from Aether and, and some
11:20others who were discussing how infrastructure is becoming the finest, most pivotal element of
11:26a vital element of everything, which is built on top of combined with AI and web three is
11:33as, as, as two superpowers delivering those use cases all around.
11:36And what are the challenges in terms of, you know, the future of scalability is to be seen
11:41when, when web three and AI use cases are talked about together.
11:45So we, we, we could discuss a lot, many things and share our energy and experiences while,
11:50you know, had those tough questions from the audiences as well about, you know, when, what
11:56would become reality?
11:57What is possible today?
11:58What is not possible today?
11:59Would decentralized compute solve all the questions we are having about centralized chains where,
12:05you know, trust is still in question.
12:08If the scalability is going in the right direction, if certain, certain parties are controlling the
12:14narrative, uh, manufacturing GPUs and controlling the overall narrative or some chains, which
12:20are designing these, uh, abstracted layers of infrastructure upon which a lot of AI chains,
12:25on chains, web three solutions can be built along, but then again, being slightly centralized.
12:30So we could discuss all in depth, but it was very refreshingly grounded, I would say this
12:35year.
12:36Yeah.
12:37And, uh, uh, no, uh, yeah.
12:39And, and one thing definitely, uh, uh, you know, it, it also grounds you as, uh,
12:44a person visiting because one of the things that you need to have in your travel kit is
12:49an umbrella for sure.
12:50Right.
12:50I mean, we, we were, there was a torrential rainfall on one particular day.
12:54And, uh, so having an umbrella in our travel kit is extremely important.
12:57Likewise, you know, even in Dubai, I remember it was extremely hot.
13:01So, uh, very sunny.
13:02So having an umbrella is very useful, but having said that, uh, uh, you know, we, uh, obviously
13:07the theme at many of these events now has shifted to stable coin, RWA, AI, and what have you.
13:14Uh, and in 2023, there was, it was a lot of buzz around L2s.
13:18And so there is some conversations around, around L2s, but the, but the reality that we
13:23are seeing now in the market is that while the conversation around L2s and L1s seem to
13:28have, uh, seems to see do not seem to be fully up there, but the, the quality of, uh, projects
13:36which are now wanting to do an L2 or an L1 are really, uh, are really up there, right?
13:42Unlike what we were seeing in 2023, where, uh, they were, where every second startup without
13:49any, uh, money in their pocket was wanting to do, uh, you know, a rollup or an app chain.
13:54And then invariably, many of them would do a, would, would set up a test net, uh, run
14:00it for a while, a couple of months, and then, uh, and then sort of abandon the project.
14:05Uh, so I think that's a big shift that we are seeing in the market where serious projects
14:09are now, uh, you know, coming to the table, right.
14:13With serious discussions.
14:14And we're seeing that with some big brands over there, like you had Robin Hood and, uh,
14:19doing an L2 and Circle doing an L1.
14:22And likewise, there were so many others, right?
14:24Uh, so even the kind of people who are now having conversations with us are far more serious
14:29players than what they were in the past.
14:31So I think that's very refreshing and that's great for our business because, uh, uh, because,
14:36you know, the, that's really the core focus for us.
14:38So that's one piece of it.
14:40The other thing is that I think, uh, what I also am observing is that there is a huge,
14:45uh, you know, expectation of a value add from a RAS or an app chain provider like us.
14:51You know, it's not just providing the core infrastructure where you can just come and
14:56one click and, you know, one click is great.
14:58It, it, it does a lot of magic for you.
15:00But I think now a lot of people are going into more deeper discussions around what stack
15:05should I use, right?
15:06Given my use case.
15:07And they expect you to provide them some great, uh, consulting, uh, uh, you know, expertise
15:12and advice on that.
15:14And that's what we've saw even at, in the various projects that we met, uh, as well
15:18as, you know, people also may, may want some level of customization, some development work,
15:24uh, you know, so there will be consulting advisory development work and, and, and what
15:27have you deal sizes, uh, certainly much, much bigger than what they were in the past.
15:32Uh, I think people are less, uh, price sensitive now.
15:35I think they are more quality sensitive.
15:37They want something which is more stable, which is more long-term I think all that augurs
15:42it really well for an industry and for someone like Z because we've got a great engineering
15:46team.
15:47We have great consulting capabilities and, uh, and, and, and we've been, and, and, and
15:52we are also building a good reputation as a very reliable partner for handling large
15:56projects.
15:57Number one.
15:57Also, you know, now we are also getting, getting knocked on our door by people who want to do
16:01migration projects, right?
16:03And in our skillsets come in handy.
16:04So I think we're seeing a shift in landscape, even in the, uh, even in our core business,
16:10which is really good for us because it fits in with what we are trying to focus on.
16:14And, uh, and, and, and of course, uh, there's a great opportunity for us to, uh, wet our feet
16:20and get deeper into this entire stable coin, RWA, and also the intersection of AI and Web3.
16:28Right.
16:28Absolutely right, Thomas.
16:29In fact, you know, these events, they were really, and in the meetings we had, they were
16:33really validated these directions, simplifying deployments, abstracting complexity, powering
16:38the next generation of decentralized networks.
16:40The more AI deepened and RWA networks grow, the more infrastructure will become the silent
16:45differentiator.
16:46And that's the sweet spot.
16:48And, you know, now if, you know, if we see, we are entering the era of abstraction,
16:53inference becoming invisible, builders, projects, they didn't need to know.
16:57They, in fact, do not know at all how the backend works.
17:01They just want to deploy and scale.
17:03And, and modular infra will mature when it feels monolithic again.
17:07That, that's something which I could hear, um, at a lot, many places, but then simple,
17:13predictable and efficient infra would come back alive again.
17:16And, and this whole convergence of AI, RWA and decentralization compute is going to
17:20redefine the Web3 stack.
17:22Like, it's not just about running chains anymore.
17:25We ourselves are seeing a lot of projects coming to us that it's more sounding like
17:30that, you know, we're enabling intelligent interconnected networks rather than just
17:33simple chains and interoperability is taking a strong, uh, playing a strong role in all
17:38that.
17:39And Z's focus is right there.
17:41It's, it's to be that, you know, plug and play infrastructure backbone that makes all
17:45the innovation possible, not just delivering a bare minimalistic chain.
17:49Like Thomas said, it's, it's about delivering chains in a full stack approach, bringing
17:54all the integrations, interoperability tools, consulting and infrastructure advisory on top
17:59of it, including use cases and other interconnected technologies.
18:04So that's really happening at, at, you know, at, at a rapid pace as of now, that's what we
18:10could realize, you know, during the, the, the overall trending vibes at the events.
18:14And, and, uh, and then done, you know, about clearly one of our goals was to see how could
18:20we, uh, you know, get more, uh, local in, in a market like Korea, because what, you know,
18:27the general trend now is that there is a fair amount of buzz in Asia around blockchain and
18:31bed three, uh, you know, like in the U S is now opening up.
18:34So we're in the Asian market.
18:36So I think one of our goals in Korea was all to see how could we, uh, how could we really
18:41crack our first deal, right?
18:42And how could we, uh, build a strong partnership with a local player?
18:46Because, you know, these are markets, which are difficult to crack, right?
18:49I mean, it's, there's a lot of, a lot of, uh, advantage that local Korean companies have.
18:54So, uh, what does it take for us to localize ourselves?
18:57So that's, so that was one, uh, we took a fair amount of our time when meeting with potential
19:02partners who could collaborate with us, who could really be our, uh, our, our, our extended
19:08arm in Korea.
19:08And we hope that in the next three to six months, we can firm up something in that direction.
19:13But we are also in conversation with a few other people where for cracking some deals.
19:18So there are some, uh, we're not at liberty to talk about it today because these are all
19:22work in progress, but there could be an opportunity for us to, there is a, you know, a couple of
19:27deals that we're working on in Korea.
19:29And I think if you're able to crack them, I think it will really put us at the, at the
19:34next level in, in the, in the Korean market.
19:36And, and that would be really critical because once you, uh, get your first few deals in a
19:41local market, then I think then it's just a question of, of moving there, particularly
19:45if that deal is with a community, which is, which has a great brand.
19:49Right.
19:50So, so that's something that was one of our goals.
19:52And, uh, and, and we believe that this trip was, uh, really, uh, monumental in that because
19:58it helped us, uh, position ourselves for that particular deal.
20:01And, uh, hopefully, uh, we can make it happen and then, uh, you know, build a much stronger
20:06presence in Korea.
20:08Because clearly KBW should be on our beat next year as well.
20:11It definitely will be on our beat for the next few years because we, we, it was our first
20:15trip, but you know, we were a significant eye-opener and we believe that if we can crack
20:20this deal in the next few months, then we can start building on it and figure out what
20:25our go-to-market strategy in that market should be.
20:27Right.
20:28So I think, I think that was another significant highlight of, uh, of our entire Korea trip.
20:33Yeah, no, no, absolutely.
20:34And honestly, this trip reminded us that that is not just about cold.
20:38It's about culture, connection, curiosity, and getting, getting into, you know, these,
20:42these new words of, uh, uh, market segments.
20:45It is required that, you know, we stitch, uh, these, these, uh, connections together and,
20:50and work in those directions.
20:52And at Z, you know, we are just building the infrastructure, but then infrastructure is needed
20:56by everybody.
20:57We could realize that a lot of, uh, regional players were also looking to expand their
21:03partnerships and, and, and make ways into the international ecosystem, or they were
21:07requiring help from the international ecosystem into the regional domain.
21:10And we could sense that we could meet a lot, many of them.
21:14Of course, like Thomas said, we could not mention.
21:16We call, we could also see a next generation of layer one chains, infrastructure elements
21:20are coming out, which would redefine how you say use cases are to be built.
21:24So it's, it's all happening in many different ways.
21:27And, uh, you know, it's KBW and token 2049 showed us anything.
21:32It's that, that decentralization future is, is already happening just in different extents
21:37and time zones.
21:38So, yeah, it was a question that we, we didn't really know that how deep the, the Korean blockchain
21:44ecosystem itself is, is, is already now.
21:48And, uh, yes, I think, you know, we are at the heart of everything and we will be there
21:51again and we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll be deepening our ties.
21:54We'll be deepening our, uh, expansion and we'll be exploring, uh, and in fact, coming up
22:01with more partnerships and, uh, real world use cases, uh, built on Z even trajectory, uh,
22:06by that time.
22:08Yeah.
22:09And I think, uh, yeah, I think, uh, I must also point out that the fact that we did the
22:13Memento blockchain, which is a, a Prividium implementation of ZK Sync has also played a,
22:19has been, has been, has been amazing because I think, uh, we're getting a lot of traction
22:24now with other players, uh, in, uh, and we've had, we had a number of meetings actually
22:29with potential prospects who were looking at, uh, at, at basically, uh, a ZK chain with,
22:34with, with, with, with privacy built in.
22:36So I think, I think that's, that's opening a whole new door into the entire institutional
22:40market.
22:41And that's the way we would like to go because we see that, uh, institutional, the entire
22:46institutional opportunities, uh, is, is far more enterprise focused.
22:51So I think from a strategy perspective, we are becoming more and more enterprise focused.
22:55So this, uh, Prividium, uh, chain, uh, of ZK Sync becomes a very critical component, uh, to deliver,
23:02uh, uh, you know, that privacy option, which a lot of banks and other institutions will
23:06be looking for when they get onto a public chain.
23:09So I think, I think that's opened the doors for, uh, for, uh, for, uh, for us to enter
23:13this, this, uh, this, uh, a very exciting and high value, uh, market, not just in Asia,
23:19but in the U S and a whole lot of other places as well.
23:22But I think we are making some strong strides there and hopefully in the next few months,
23:27we'll be in a position to make some more announcements of some other significant deals
23:31that we'll be able to do.
23:32And we also become a trusted partner of ZK Sync in their, uh, uh, uh, you know, as they
23:37start to penetrate more and more institutions.
23:39So that, I think that was an exciting angle.
23:41And we had a great meeting with our, with the team from Memento as well in Singapore.
23:47Uh, so I think, uh, uh, that's another significant highlight that I thought I should just mention
23:52today.
23:53And that's exactly what's happening.
23:57And, and what's exciting is that enterprises are no, no longer just experimenting with
24:01blockchain.
24:01They are building governed, private and compliant ecosystems and, and they want all the benefits
24:06of decentralization, immutability, automation, interrupt, but with the privacy and control
24:12built in, you know, the projects that you could not mention the name of, but we met them
24:15and all, and they're building this on top of stacks like ZK Sync, Previdium.
24:19And ZEV is one of the first, uh, to offer, uh, an end-to-end ZK Sync Previdium infrastructure,
24:25uh, baked into, you know, a big or tailor made for these use cases, um, in a, you know,
24:31weeks time.
24:32And, and we are seeing this, this, this, this could change in the narrative, uh, to privacy
24:37plus modular stacks, which Previdium, of course it already is.
24:41And for instance, it is designed to enable enterprises to build private permissions, ZK
24:46roll-ups that still leverage Ethereum secured.
24:50And of course, ZK Sync technology is already, um, uh, again, changing.
24:54It's like getting the power of a public blockchain with the description of a private one.
24:58So you have these kinds of, uh, you know, texts available now, and ZEV's approach is about
25:02abstracting away complexity.
25:03So I'm just repeating this again, whether it's ZK circuits, roll-up management, data permissioning,
25:08so, so the teams can simply focus on building their logic, use cases, contracts, but not
25:15maintaining infrastructure.
25:16That is, that is something which we pioneer in.
25:19And, you know, this is the broader narrative about how we are going to be enabling permissionless,
25:26hybrid, completely private, privacy-driven infrastructures all at the same time.
25:32Yeah.
25:33And, you know, Singapore is a must halt every year for us because, uh, what we are now seeing
25:38is that, uh, many of our customers are come to, uh, come to, uh, come to token.
25:44I mean, all over the world, not just from Asia, but from all over the world.
25:46So it's a great, uh, uh, melting pot for us because we get to meet our customers face
25:51to face and that makes a big difference, right?
25:53In a world that we live in digital and online, I think meeting face to face and building those
26:03relationships.
26:04I mean, there is no, uh, there's no alternative to that really.
26:08Right.
26:08So I think, so I think, uh, and, and that, that, that's a market where we had, so that's
26:13one event where we find the maximum number of our customers and prospects actually attending.
26:18Uh, so, so, so that's been, uh, that's been, uh, that's also been an amazing experience.
26:23So we feel that being, uh, coming to Singapore every year, uh, would be extremely useful
26:28for us to build on those relationships, uh, and, and then, uh, and then to be able to,
26:35uh, leverage those relationships and, and, and do a lot more.
26:38Uh, so that was another highlight, uh, uh, you know, that I really saw from, uh, from, uh,
26:44from, from this particular trip.
26:45Right.
26:45Yeah.
26:49Absolutely.
26:49So if we, if we, you know, talk about closing reflections or wrapping it, uh, wrapping it
26:54up, it's, it's, uh, it's all, you know, discovery and culture and how Web3 is growing so fast.
27:00Uh, every year, you know, we see it in different shape and different reality.
27:03And, but, but one thing is remaining common that is that it's moving and everybody is building
27:08for the next phase.
27:10Uh, and, and it's, it's becoming more invisible, but still indispensable.
27:14So our focus would remain, uh, and in front of Cherby would be there again.
27:18Uh, and I think not just, uh, KBW and token 2014.
27:22And I think we should also be, uh, talking about where we are heading next.
27:26So we are, we're going to costovers where we'll be, uh, expanding deeper into Cosmos ecosystem.
27:31We already run like about four, five minutes built out of the Cosmos SDK custom tailor-made
27:37for different use cases.
27:38So we would be going there and we would be, you know, doing those, those deeper, uh, partnerships
27:45and discussions about how we can help more projects, uh, launch their Cosmos space,
27:50they want to change as well, be it EVM compatible or be it, you know, Cosmovasm completely.
27:55Then I think we are, we are, I mean, Thomas can talk about, you know, where he's heading
27:58and then what's next on the horizon.
28:01Yeah.
28:01Yeah.
28:01So after, uh, Cosmo works in, uh, Croatia, you know, I head to, uh, Buenos Aires for DevConnect
28:09and, uh, that's, uh, again, a significant opportunity for us to look at a new market,
28:14which is, uh, emerging, uh, lots of things happening on the web three front.
28:18Uh, so the entire Latin American market is some, also something that we are actively exploring.
28:23Uh, we already have conversations going on with, uh, potential projects in, in Latin America.
28:29Uh, we really want to build on it and we see that the participation there would be, is quite
28:34significant because, uh, uh, you know, it's, it's a huge event happening.
28:37So I think a lot of people from around the world will be there.
28:40I think a lot of the protocols are looking at strategic ways to expand in that market.
28:46And, uh, we would like to be part of that story as well.
28:49So, uh, you know, this is all an expansion story for Zeev at this point in time.
28:53We, we had been doing historically well in most parts of Europe.
28:59Now the U S market is opening up.
29:01So we're spending more time over there.
29:02So after, uh, DevConnect, I'm going to be for two weeks and in the U S as well.
29:07So, uh, the intent is that we now want to open up, you know, go to markets where we
29:11haven't been before because there's so much happening in those markets and then figure out
29:16what should be our go-to market, uh, to really penetrate those markets.
29:19How do we build some meaningful partnerships so that we're able to accelerate our growth
29:23and, and really transform Zeev into the next generation company and, uh, where our brand
29:29will be well-recognized.
29:30We will have some great, uh, marquee enterprise customers because a lot of our focus now is
29:36enterprise apart from, uh, you know, the web three native, uh, what kind of offering should
29:40we build, uh, right beyond the rollup and the app chain?
29:44And what are some products that we need to build and so on and so forth.
29:46So I think it's a very exciting phase that we're getting into and, uh, we're very excited
29:51for the next couple of months.
29:54Absolutely.
29:55But that was before we close, you know, for me, I think I would definitely ask you to
29:59talk about it as well.
30:00For me, Singapore wins for efficiency while, you know, Seoul wins for culture, chaos, and
30:05sheer character.
30:06So Seoul for Seoul, Singapore for scale.
30:10What's it for you?
30:11You know, I think, uh, uh, uh, I think from a strictly, uh, from a look at, from a business
30:17angle, I think, uh, I think Seoul has, uh, opened the doors for some significant new
30:24opportunities, right?
30:26For Zeev, which can take us to the next level.
30:28I think, uh, from, in, from the Singapore's perspective, I think it was, a lot of it was
30:33consolidating our position because it was around, uh, you know, I think, I think we had some
30:39great quality meetings there, but many of them were with existing customers and so
30:42on.
30:42So I think there was a big, uh, there was, I could see that difference and therefore the
30:47circuit is good.
30:48You know, uh, Seoul and then Singapore, it makes a very good self circuit because there
30:52are some unique differences.
30:54Uh, apart from that, of course, I think, uh, I think, I think, I think, I think Korea was
30:58a great experience.
31:00Uh, you know, definitely, uh, I, I mean, I, I could see gun sitting in our Korean barbecue
31:06and, uh, just figuring out what he should do because, uh, he was just taking photographs
31:10and making videos while I was doing all the eating.
31:13So, uh, hopefully, uh, every Singapore gave more options to gun.
31:17So hopefully we will have, uh, some great moments of that kind, uh, where there are
31:22something unique of city offers, uh, as well as some fantastic, uh, you know, business
31:27experiences.
31:27Yeah.
31:29Yeah.
31:29Thank you, Thomas.
31:30Thank you everybody for joining us in today.
31:32Uh, you know, we could not express KBW and token in like 30 minutes, but we did
31:36our best and I think you would hear from us more and more, uh, about what, what, what's
31:41happening more at Zee, where we're heading and how these, these, uh, events are changing
31:45the shape of, uh, overall Web3, AI, Deepin, Out of Lewis, Stablecoin and, and, and much
31:51more.
31:52So stay tuned, enjoy your day and see you again very soon.
31:58Yeah.
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