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00:00My problem with the community, if you and I, you and I, I was ready to come on the show
00:02and go, put up your dukes, we'd scream at each other, we'd kill each other, a very easy thing
00:05to do.
00:06If you and I had dinner tonight, we would get along, we would get drunk, we would agree
00:10on...
00:11You would try and have your way with me.
00:14We would get drunk, we would have a good time, we would fight about certain things,
00:17but there would be an almost conciliatory nation when we agreed to disagree.
00:21And my problem with the tone of a lot of your stuff, and it's very deliberate, and it sells,
00:26is it's divisive.
00:27And why the need for that?
00:28I think it's not fair to talk about only me being divisive.
00:32I mean, what has happened is that finally conservatives are allowed to speak back.
00:37I mean, look at what was said about Judge Bork.
00:39Look at what was said about Linda Tripp, Paula Jones.
00:41I mean, it used to be the vicious acrimony came only from one side.
00:45Now I can talk back.
00:46Oh, so the viciousness throughout time, throughout our entire country has come from the blue state
00:51of media.
00:52It's always been the blue states?
00:53Yes.
00:54I must have grown up in a very different country.
00:56Wait, wait, so you're telling me- Yes, ABC, NBC, CBS.
00:59Okay, once again, which I want to play the clip.
01:01Okay, because you sold that.
01:02I want to show you a clip from Tonight Show.
01:04Yes.
01:05Everything with the media.
01:06Yes.
01:07Here he goes.
01:08Let's show that.
01:09I understand you had an Ann Coulter joke last night, Jay.
01:11Oh, I had a bunch of Ann Coulter jokes all the time.
01:14I thought I was worried about Dorothy's house falling on me.
01:17I think that was the joke, yeah.
01:18And then I had the, you were, I liked it.
01:20And then the other joke was, I like you better when you were fighting Sigourney Weaver in
01:23The Ailing.
01:24I think that was the other movie I did.
01:25Well, from my perspective, I'm Dorothy.
01:28Really?
01:29And I've just dropped my house on the mainstream media.
01:32Well, I guess that's, well, let me, let me, it's so different than the way I work.
01:37Maybe it's because I'm a comic.
01:38See, my thing is, it's sort of more flies with honey.
01:42You make your point, even if you get a couple of digs in, you make your point.
01:46Whereas this seems to me, the words you've used have overshadowed the point that you were
01:51trying to make.
01:52To the point where people are upset about you attacking the widows, they don't understand
01:55the point you were trying to make.
01:57And I still, I think most people still don't understand the point you were trying to make.
02:00Do you understand what I'm saying?
02:01Well, I suppose I'm not really trying to attract people.
02:04If I wanted to attract people, you know, I'd wear sexy dresses, grow my hair long.
02:09No, I gotcha.
02:10We're going to get to the widows later.
02:12I guess my point was interesting.
02:14In the one blanket statement, you know, the media.
02:17Okay.
02:18The mainstream media.
02:20Fox News is not mainstream media.
02:21We're taking, well, the fact that there's competition among cable stations has now opened
02:25things up for conservatives.
02:26I mean, you wouldn't know my name before 24-hour news.
02:29Ted Turner has done more for the conservative movement than almost anyone this century.
02:33He's in the top ten.
02:35If you took NBC, CBS, and ABC, what you're calling the liberal media, although we've established
02:39it.
02:40Mainstream media.
02:41Okay.
02:42You would say they are as stilted as Fox is?
02:45I would certainly say I think I could win a case in court that MSNBC is far more liberal
02:52than Fox News is.
02:53I mean, who wins?
02:54I didn't say that.
02:55MSNBC just popped up.
02:56Well, okay, but the problem is I don't watch ABC, NBC, CBS anymore.
02:59Are they still around?
03:00Yes, they're still around, and my good friend Jeff Zucker is coming out after, and he's going
03:04to be very upset with you.
03:05Okay, we've got more in the end.
03:06We do need to talk about the widows when we come back.
03:09You know I've got a lot to say about that.
03:10I think you're joshing.
03:11I don't think you believe what you said when we come back.
03:13I believe everything I say.
03:14Well, then we're going to have some problems when you come back.
03:16Don't go anywhere.
03:17We are back with the eloquacious, the vivacious, the ultra-conservative Ann Coulter.
03:21I appreciate you coming here because I certainly have not been shy on this show about taking
03:25shots at you, and so I appreciate you here.
03:27Oh, I'm glad I missed those shows.
03:28Glad you missed those.
03:29Look, you've got to help me out with this because you're obviously a very bright woman
03:32and a very calculated – I don't mean calculated in a bad sense of the word – I read about
03:36your parents.
03:37I always like to look at somebody to find about their parents in quotes, and they seem like delightful
03:40people.
03:41Yes, they are.
03:42So why am I so mean?
03:44No, how could you possibly come out, and I'm not going to sit here and scream, with these
03:49widows, the witches of Brunswick, the harpies, who paid the ultimate price.
03:54They lost their husbands.
03:55We don't know them personally.
03:56Maybe some of them were going to get divorced or whatnot.
03:58They lost their husbands.
03:59They lost the father of the kids.
04:01What gives you the right to pass judgment on them?
04:04It's not passing judgment.
04:05It's describing a phenomenon that the left use of sending out these human shields to make
04:10the points for them.
04:11I'm not bringing the left.
04:12Once again, you're going back.
04:13The very thing I said I don't think exists in this world is this left, right, this liberal.
04:17I'm talking about human beings.
04:18Right, but you're wrong about that.
04:19I'm wrong about a lot of things, but I want to talk about the human beings here.
04:23How do you, as a human being, feel the right, the ability, the comfort to come out?
04:30These people, they lost the fathers of their children, and to say that they were cashing
04:35in on it.
04:36First of all, if they were being exploitive, whatever they're going to do.
04:39They can't do enough as far as I'm concerned, so that's number one.
04:42What?
04:43As you were writing that, and those words were coming out, obviously you knew they were
04:47going to sell, obviously they were going to hit a nerve and whatnot.
04:49No.
04:50Didn't you feel, wasn't there a sense of just decency that came over you?
04:54I mean, I don't have to be any more candid about it.
04:57And they are putting other women's husbands and children at risk.
05:02By doing what?
05:03By lobbying for the whitewash 9-11 commission, by denouncing George Bush rather than, for
05:10example, Jamie Gorelick, who was responsible for the wall of separation that prevented the
05:14FBI from knowing about the hijackers here.
05:17And by the way, if what I said was so wrong, then is it also disgusting for all the 9-11 widows
05:23I've been hearing from since then who think I wasn't harsh enough.
05:26They don't want these.
05:27All of those, how many of those 9-11 widows?
05:29A lot of them.
05:30The point is, they don't like, they don't get quoted in the press.
05:32They're not fed through vanity fair.
05:33But the bottom is.
05:34No, the ones attacking Bush who was fighting the war on terrorism.
05:37But you broad-stroked 9-11 widows.
05:39No, I did not.
05:40I absolutely did not.
05:41That's what it felt like to the rest of the country.
05:42No, no, no.
05:43That's what the media that you're claiming isn't going to lie about.
05:45Oh, the media wants to lie about.
05:46Okay.
05:47So you were talking about how many specific women?
05:48No, I mean, that's an important point.
05:49It was a lie.
05:50Four.
05:51Okay.
05:52Four.
05:53They call themselves the Jersey Girls.
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