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00:00Well, good morning everyone. I'm pleased to be joined on stage now by Roberto Rossi,
00:04president of Schneider Electric Brazil, a company that's at the forefront of
00:09energy management and automation. And as Brazil accelerates its industrial
00:14transformation, Schneider Electric has been driving innovation, electrification,
00:21efficiency, and digitalization. All essential, as we know, for a low-carbon
00:25future. So, Roberto, thank you for being here. Thank you for the for being here
00:30with me, and thank you for the introduction of the company. Yes, you're
00:35right, the movement in the last year has been impressive. So Schneider is an old
00:41company, already 180 years alive, and we have seen over the time a lot of
00:49industrial and energy disruptions and revolutions. And then, back in time, we
00:56define a concept around electricity 4.0 to to showcase what is moving moving
01:03forward in term of energy transition and digitalization. What we do see is a
01:10movement in which we are more electrical and more digital moving forward. And on
01:19top of that, what we bring is a more connectable product and more connected
01:24solutions. Then, this is more or less what we are looking for. Well, let's start by
01:30exploring a little bit about how greater electrification and digitization can
01:35really drive industrial decarbonization and competitiveness. Yeah. There's a lot of
01:40technologies out there, but I wanted to understand from you, what are these
01:45technologies are already helping the industry kind of move into that
01:48direction? Yeah, as I said, the concept of electricity and digitalization coming
01:55together is reshaping the market. We do see more connectable products, we do see a
02:01smarter, more connectable, and more efficiency in the energy system. Why? Because from one
02:09side electricity is reshaping the market, it's the better source of energy because
02:15in terms of performance, and it can also be generated in a clean way. And in
02:20parallel, the easy adoption of it is making transformation in mobility, is making
02:26transformation in process, is making transformation in heating. That means today,
02:32the share of wallet of energy for electricity in energy is 22%, and it will reach 40%, 40% by
02:42the 2050, 2055. In parallel, what we do see is what in time was segregated system, energy
02:54management, and industrial automation. Over the time, with more and more digitization, they
03:01start to combine together to be one unique backbone, sharing information, sharing resources, and
03:10bringing more information that we didn't have in the past. With this information, we
03:15start to connect production with demand, with generation, and along with that, we used to
03:21have these two systems formally segregated now together, but moving forward to what was
03:28software, hardware-defined automation into software-defined automation. In the past, all the controllers define
03:37the way in which we do the automation, either for energy or either for the part of production.
03:45By now, more and more, all these controllers are not making sense anymore, and in the future,
03:51software will define the platform to make this happen. Then, we have a good platform to top up with all the
03:58solutions, whether artificial intelligence, machine learning, digital twins, or whatever solution for energy
04:06stability across the board. This is applicable to all the segments, building, data center, industry, etc., etc., and we have
04:16already some solutions implemented here in Brazil, in Vale, with Aviva Pi system to monitor the
04:25weather conditions for risk response, to be sure that they will reduce the carbon footprint. We have
04:32solutions with Melia Hotels, with our resource advisor to reduce also the consumption and other solutions that have been implemented.
04:40Then, long story short, we do see the conversions of electrification along with digitalization moving forward,
04:50removing 70% of the carbon footprint in an easy way. The topic is how to implement.
04:56And speaking a little bit about Brazil, because we're obviously all here for COP, based on your experience leading
05:03Schneider Electric in Brazil, what would it take for Brazil to really become a global leader in sustainable industrial development?
05:11So, at the end, Brazil today, as everyone knows, is super well positioned in some domains, in generation, and maybe in the
05:21future business of the carbon market. In terms of generation, we are the leader by far, because we can achieve 84% of our
05:32generation in a clean way. Then, what is happening now is, on the other side of the equation, when you see the result of
05:41World Economic Forum in terms of energy transition index, we are in the position 15, mainly because it's not only the generation,
05:48but also the consumption. It's energy efficiency, energy equity, and sustainability. And on the other side, the CNI local entity is
05:57qualifying our productivity, like position 18 out of 18. That means a lot of things to be done. Our focus should be
06:06on the demand side. Our focus should be to train the future generation and the current generation, and to create
06:13policies to create a platform for sustainable business and predictable business.
06:18So, you just mentioned something really important, which is, you know, the implementation of these strategic
06:24kind of demand side solutions, right? And really, to have these solutions to support this industrial
06:30decarbonization. What are those opportunities?
06:33So, to give you one example is the one that was presented, I guess, today of Redata. So, when you look back, I used to be the
06:42president for Indonesia, and I arrived here one year and a half ago, and the data center market was promising,
06:50but blocked. Block-wide, because from one side, there are plenty of energetic solutions in a clean way,
06:58an affordable way, plus the land available in Brazil make the perfect scenario. But the rest of the policies,
07:05taxation, regulation, we are not there to make it happen. And as it was showcased today,
07:11this was a good collaboration in between private sector and public sector to make it happen. And now, we can see
07:20moving forward, almost two trillion reais coming on investment, because now Brazil could be a hub for
07:26data center, also for Brazil, incorporating the data that is today processed out of Brazil, or maybe because we can
07:36bring from outside data to be processed. In parallel, more generic, what I would like to highlight, that
07:43Schneider Sustainability Research Institute is working with the Ministry of Development for Industry and Commerce.
07:51In one white paper, one contribution for the country to decarbonize the industry. This will be released now in the COP, and this is fully aligned with the intention of the government for the nova industry in Brazil, as well as the increase of the industrialization while reducing the carbon footprint. And then, what we are bringing there is the experience of our research institute,
08:20research institute that have done this in India and in China with remarkable results.
08:25So, this study and project that you mentioned, what concrete pathways does the study really propose for you to achieve that decarbonization?
08:36Well, there is a report that includes three chapters. The first chapter is already released, where we showcase worldwide the energy transition toward 2050, what will happen with electricity, electrification, energy efficiency, circularity, and other domains like biofuels, etc.
08:59The second and third chapter will be released soon in the COP and are more focused on all the policies that will bring actionable actions toward bio-economy, better jobs, all the value chain around the value creation, subsidies, policies, improvement on the way on the value chain is recognized by
09:28by consuming less resources. And then, totally, it will be connected to something that, from one side, it will be feasible from the technical standpoint, viable from the economical standpoint, in line with the focus of the country toward the 2050 commitment.
09:51And then, we have the third chapter that is more or less all the scenarios that we will have depending on the acceleration of these policies.
10:00Because at the end, these policies could be applied or not, could be faster or slower, and then we will have several scenarios of how the 2025 will look like according to this evolution.
10:12I know that we are out of time, but I don't want to let Roberto go without asking him a little bit about COP.
10:19A very simple question, what are your expectations for COP30 being hosted in Brazil, and what do you hope that the impact is?
10:27Well, by now, Schneider has been participating in COP for more than 10 years. As the most sustainable company in the world, we consider that we have a voice to share there and solution to be shared there.
10:39Being practical, the COP of 2015, the Paris COP is still remembered for ICONIC to define the maximum of the rise of the temperature and to put the topic on the center.
10:54I do hope that moving forward, the COP of Brazil will be remembered as the COP of implementation.
11:02As per today, we know more or less how we can get financial schemes, but still we don't know how to implement, how to roll out, and how to rule this.
11:12So I do hope the COP of Brazil in 10 years' time or 20 years' time will be remembered as the COP of implementation toward a better future by the end of the century.
11:22Well, thank you. Unfortunately, we're out of time, but I want to thank Roberto Rossi and also Schneider Electric for supporting our event.
11:29Thank you all.
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