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00:00Can you recall the moment you found out

00:14about what had happened?

00:17Well, I found her.

00:18I mean, I was the one that walked in the room

00:20and found her laying on the floor.

00:25I lost it.

00:26I can't hardly speak about it.

00:28She was all I had left.

00:32This just wasn't supposed to happen.

00:35It wasn't supposed to happen.

00:37I hold these secrets inside my bones.

00:45How long can I keep them from my shadows?

00:53I was telling my girls about this case.

00:55She's a pretty girl.

00:56Yeah.

00:57She's young, she's living her life, and because she's out trying to meet people, her risk

01:03factor goes up and she ends up being dead.

01:05Steve and I are here in Arkansas to look into the 1997 murder of a sweet, bubbly mother

01:12and hairdresser named Tracy Holloway, who was murdered on the night of her 30th birthday.

01:18So she turns 30 years old and she goes out to celebrate like anybody would, and then we're

01:24thinking the murder happened sometime after midnight on the 27th, right?

01:27Clearly after midnight.

01:28What did you think when you were reading it?

01:30That is a brutal homicide.

01:32She has got skull fractures, her neck is cut, she dies of manual strangulation.

01:38You talk about overkill.

01:39Holy man.

01:40I've been doing this a long time, and this crime looks personal.

01:44There's no signs of sexual assault, but everything about this scene points to jealousy and rage.

01:48When I read this case, I actually read it thinking, wow, this is a whodunit.

01:54There's three men involved, and I really couldn't figure out, as I turned each page, which one did it.

02:00Big red flag, she's going through a divorce, and she's out starting to strut her stuff.

02:05And you know that's not going to sit well with the soon-to-be ex-husband.

02:07I think that he just loses it.

02:10That's not who I'm looking at in my head.

02:12She's dating a new guy, who's younger than her, and they just broke up.

02:16I don't know, I know we don't always agree, I'll tell you that much.

02:19Steve thinks he knows who killed Tracy.

02:22I've got my own theory, and there's a third suspect involved who could prove us both wrong.

02:27But we need to uncover the truth, whoever it was, and get justice for Tracy.

02:32She's not doing anything wrong.

02:34She just happens to be in the middle of a bunch of male egos, and here we are.

02:38It's going to be a tough week, you don't agree with me again.

02:42If you're right, I'll admit it.

02:43I've just got a problem thinking it's going to be the husband right now, this time.

02:48Hello.

02:48Detective B.J. Rouse.

02:49Nice to meet you, I'm Kelly.

02:51Lieutenant, welcome.

02:52Haley, tonight.

02:52Hi, Haley.

02:53Thank you for inviting us, Lieutenant.

02:54We appreciate it.

02:55We're so glad you are here.

02:56We're hoping to get somewhere and help you out this week.

02:59I read your police report, honestly, like a page, going, oh my God, what's going to happen next?

03:04It's crazy.

03:05It's a lot going on, yeah.

03:07Probably a lot more you need to tell us, too, right?

03:09Yeah, absolutely.

03:10Okay, let's go.

03:11Tracy Hallway's death shocked this whole town.

03:14I talked to people at the time and said they're changing out the locks on their houses.

03:19It just wasn't something that you would think in small-town Searcy, Arkansas.

03:24B.J., you're pretty young.

03:25How old are you?

03:26I'm 35.

03:26And you're even younger.

03:27How old are you?

03:2825.

03:29Wow.

03:29Is there anybody else besides y'all doing it?

03:31On the Hallway case?

03:32Uh-huh.

03:32Not actively on the...

03:34Just me and her.

03:35This case is actually 28 years old, so I was not even born when Tracy died.

03:39But to me, that doesn't matter.

03:41People deserve justice.

03:42That's what we're here for.

03:44If that's my mother or sister that got beaten to death, then I wouldn't stop.

03:48And so we have to do the same thing.

03:49We can't stop.

03:51Tracy was a 30-year-old hairdresser that worked here in town.

03:55She recently had been separated from her husband, Larry, and she was a mother.

04:01Was that Larry's son?

04:02Yes.

04:03And he's two at the time?

04:05She was a friendly person.

04:06Everybody loved her.

04:07And on June 26, she was going out to celebrate her birthday with a friend and shoot some pool.

04:13And then, of course, on the morning of the 27th, she didn't show up for work.

04:1730 years old on her birthday.

04:19Yeah.

04:20Tracy had a young son she was crazy about.

04:23She had just gotten a brand new place of her own, and she was just starting to see other people.

04:28She was murdered just when she was starting over again.

04:31At approximately 9.43 a.m., patrolman responded to the scene.

04:36When he enters the room, he finds Tracy on the floor.

04:39She was wearing a half-night gown with a pair of panties on.

04:41She had suffered quite a bit of blunt force trauma to her head, shoulders, her abdomen area, her chest.

04:47Her throat was slit, and she was strangled.

04:51Wow.

04:51That's a lot.

04:53Tracy was beaten with an unknown blunt object, possibly a tool with a tubular handle.

04:58Her throat was likely cut with a pocket knife.

05:01Neither weapon was ever recovered, and there were no useful fingerprints or DNA identified.

05:05They immediately start looking for suspects.

05:08Steve Webb, he's the last one to see her alive.

05:11He's the one actually with her that night.

05:14Right.

05:14Tracy went out to the Elks Lodge that night, celebrated her 30th birthday, and she met Steve Webb.

05:20Steve started buying some drinks, and they started shooting pool, and they're having a good time.

05:24They stayed until closing time, and then she leaves the bar that night.

05:28His problem is he keeps changing his story.

05:30Sure.

05:30What's the most important part he left out of the story in the beginning?

05:33That he even entered the residence.

05:35That he went to that house.

05:36Yes, yes.

05:37Steve Webb initially told the investigators that he last saw Tracy when she left the bar

05:42that night.

05:43But witnesses that later came forward said they saw Steve's car hauler leaving her house in

05:49the early morning hours.

05:51So he was re-questioned, and he changed the story.

05:54According to Steve's testimony, they decided to go back to Tracy's house.

05:58They had some sweet tea on the porch, talked for a while.

06:01He said that they said goodnight to each other, and then he left and went home.

06:06As a cop, you think what when you're having to drag all this out of somebody?

06:09They're guilty.

06:09Why lie?

06:11For motive, is there anything that would have made Stephen Webb mad?

06:15I mean, how much was he thinking he was going to get lucky?

06:18She wasn't sexually assaulted.

06:19But what if he thought he was going to get lucky?

06:22Right.

06:23Steve Webb changed his story several times.

06:26This is a major red flag.

06:27We clearly need to look at him, but we also need to look at the other men in Tracy's life.

06:32Larry Hallway.

06:34Separated husband?

06:35They've been separated for months.

06:37He's an extremely violent man, Larry was.

06:39How do you know that?

06:40Not long after the court finds him guilty of felony battery against his son, and he's adopted

06:48by the grandparents.

06:50Wow.

06:51Tracy's husband has a history of abuse.

06:53In addition to physically abusing his and Tracy's son, his first wife also divorced him for

06:59abusing her and threatening to kill her.

07:01How's their son doing today?

07:03He is currently at the White County Jail for two counts of capital murder, where a woman

07:10was also beat to death.

07:13Good God.

07:14Well, I guess if you're two years old and your mother's murdered like that, it's going

07:20to mess you up.

07:22Absolutely.

07:22Wow.

07:23Tracy's son has not been convicted, but it's pretty tragic to appreciate how his father's

07:30abuse and the murder of his mother at such a young age may have contributed to his alleged

07:36criminal behavior.

07:37What else about Larry needs to go up here?

07:39I think how the day starts.

07:41You know, he shows up to her work.

07:42You know, it's her birthday, so he brings her flowers, and he wants to take her out for

07:48her birthday, and she goes, no, he gets turned down publicly, and I think that really gets

07:52to him.

07:52So that night, he's sitting there wondering, where is she?

07:55Where is she?

07:56He's watching the kids.

07:57Tracy declined to go out with Larry that night, but he did agree to watch their son for her.

08:03At the time, Larry was sharing an apartment with his brother, Alan.

08:06And then later that night, at 1.36, Tracy calls over to where Alan and Larry are both

08:14staying.

08:15And Alan is his roommate at the time.

08:16Right.

08:17So in my mind, it's her calling saying, hey, I'm not coming tonight.

08:21I'm going to bed.

08:22She basically stands him up.

08:23Right.

08:24And she probably sounds like she's had something to drink.

08:26Right.

08:27Larry's initial report to law enforcement was that Tracy was supposed to come over to his

08:31house that night before 10.30 or 11 o'clock p.m. to pick up their son.

08:36She doesn't call until 1.30 a.m.

08:37He can tell she's been drinking, and he tells her to stay home.

08:42My theory is that something about that call enraged him.

08:46But I'm going to try to keep an open mind.

08:47All right.

08:48So now we've got George Johnson II up here.

08:52Would she call him a boyfriend?

08:53How long they date?

08:54I'd say weeks.

08:55Weeks?

08:55She broke up with him about a week before?

08:57Yes.

08:58We know they had sex this Saturday, previous Saturday.

09:01So, like, four days earlier?

09:03George worked over at the Bryce Corporation at that time.

09:07He was a slitter operator.

09:08His job as a slitter would be to slice potato chip bags in different wrappers for different

09:14candies.

09:14You know, access to very many tools.

09:16Yeah.

09:16I care about that, maybe more than y'all do, because of all these injuries from some kind

09:22of odd, not your typical murder weapon.

09:25And he's the guy up here that's got the clearest possession of that kind of a weapon.

09:30George Johnson and Tracy broke up just days before her murder.

09:34When police went to question him, they noticed some suspicious scratches on his arms and a

09:40burn pile at his house.

09:42He claimed that he had been working on his property and burning debris.

09:46George is the suspect that I have the most questions about.

09:49I thought it was a little odd on this Thursday night, this 24-year-old man is going to a

09:55bookstore.

09:56Going to the bookstore.

09:57To get a book.

09:57How far is the book's a million from the Elks Lodge?

10:01Less than a mile.

10:02Yes.

10:02So his girlfriend that he had sex with four nights earlier is at the Elks Lodge partying.

10:06If he was so hot after her, there'd have been phone calls back and forth.

10:11There's nothing.

10:12I think you're right, Sue.

10:13I just don't think he cared.

10:14I don't think he cared.

10:15But why did they have sex and then she breaks up with them?

10:18That's hard.

10:20There's your hemorrhoid right there.

10:21Larry Holloway.

10:22That guy is an asshole.

10:24You got a couple of scratch marks here.

10:26You don't have any nicks on him.

10:27We have a violent ex-husband, a boyfriend that she had just recently broken up with,

10:33and a man who came to her house that very night whose story keeps changing.

10:38This was a blitz style of a hat.

10:39Okay, but there's a little bit of nicks on him.

10:42Those are not deep scratch marks.

10:43No, they're not.

10:44She's 30.

10:45She'd have been fighting like a wounded bear.

10:47God, I hope we can figure this out.

10:57She was a hard-working girl.

11:05She was very funny.

11:07She had a great personality.

11:09She just lit up the room.

11:11When you lose a child like that, there's nothing ever going to take this hole out of my heart.

11:25Hello, Ms. Dawn.

11:26I'm Kelly.

11:26Nice to meet you.

11:27Thank you so much.

11:28You're welcome.

11:30Tracy was the light of my life.

11:32She was very independent, always, even when she was little.

11:36What kind of mom was Tracy?

11:38A real good mom.

11:39She was, of course, a busy mom, just like all young mothers.

11:42She worked all day, so she wanted to spend the time with him at night.

11:46She was my best friend.

11:49It's been devastating.

11:52It's like I've got a huge hole right here.

11:55She was just a joy.

11:57I want her back.

11:58That's what I want.

12:00Parents aren't supposed to bury their children.

12:03I just want justice for Tracy.

12:05There's somebody out there that is the killer.

12:08Did Tracy tell you anything about Larry coming by the shop that day, wanting to take her out that night?

12:13No.

12:14She kind of looked for George to come because she had gone out with George on his birthday a few weeks prior.

12:21And she said she kind of thought he might call her, but he didn't.

12:24How long did they date?

12:26Like just a month, a couple weeks?

12:28Maybe.

12:29What did Tracy think about him?

12:31She liked him, but she wasn't, you know, she was just somebody to go out with.

12:35What did Tracy tell you about her and Larry right at the end?

12:39It was just always fighting, arguing.

12:42He was real jealous.

12:44If I can't be with you, nobody's going to be with you.

12:46She moved out to this other little house, and I didn't want her out on her own at all.

12:52He was constantly calling me every single day.

12:56Where's Tracy?

12:56What's Tracy doing?

12:57How far had Tracy gone as far as trying to file up for a divorce?

13:02She did go to file for a divorce, and she couldn't, she started crying, and she backed off.

13:09Okay.

13:09She was trying to break it off with him and get away from him.

13:12Okay.

13:13Donna paints Larry as jealous, possessive, and still obsessed with Tracy.

13:19George, a harmless fling, but neither of them was the last person to see her alive and lie about it.

13:25That's Steve Webb.

13:27The hope is that the witness world, for her back then in 1997, will solve this case.

13:33I'm praying for every step you make, and I thank you from the bottom of my heart.

13:39You know, I don't know what drives you, but thank the Lord for you.

13:44I'm down below, and my breath is giving out.

13:57We've been talking about how little this house is and how little this bedroom space is.

14:00I really hope we can get a good feel for what that means as far as swinging a weapon

14:05and how defenseless she had to have been in that tight area.

14:08Tracy got herself trapped in that room.

14:11We don't actually have access to the house Tracy was murdered in, so we set up a mock crime scene.

14:16Well, we got it all built up inside.

14:18All right, let's go check it out.

14:19All right.

14:19What we want to take a look at are the risks the suspect faced getting into the house,

14:24how he got out, how the murder was likely carried out.

14:27And what we want to do is compare that to the suspects that are in Tracy's life.

14:31That's going to tell us a lot about this case.

14:33The very front of the house on this side, there's a small porch.

14:38The front door, Stephanie, we're going into the living room here.

14:41If we make a right, this is the bedroom.

14:45This is Tracy's bedroom.

14:47So her bedroom is the front of the house?

14:49Absolutely.

14:49It's very, very tight, incredibly tight.

14:52Where is most of the blood spatter and blood found?

14:55A lot of it's cast back this direction.

14:59It's on the ceiling as well.

15:00Okay.

15:00I mean, it's violent.

15:02In what position is Tracy's body found?

15:05She's on her back.

15:05Face up.

15:06She's on her back.

15:06Face up, yeah, laying right here.

15:08Her hips are about here, and her head is facing this way.

15:13The scene shows us that Tracy was in her nightgown, and there was no forced entry.

15:17So she felt comfortable enough letting them in.

15:19That seems to point more towards her recent boyfriend, George, than it does her estranged

15:23husband, Larry, or Steve Webb, who she had just met earlier that night at a bar.

15:28Okay, so she lets them in.

15:30And where is the first blow, you think?

15:31Back of the head.

15:34She goes down face first.

15:36So she goes down face first, and that's the first blood pool?

15:38Sure.

15:38So if she goes down first like this, how many more hits come when she's like this?

15:42Oh, there's a couple of hits.

15:43Several hits.

15:44Yeah, there's several hits coming down on all sides.

15:47And then at some point...

15:48He flips her over.

15:49Flips her over.

15:49And is she still whopping?

15:50Oh, he's beating the bejesus out of her.

15:52This is the one that really ruptures the liver.

15:55But that one that comes across the face, that's the one that shatters the jaw, and it moves

16:01the jaw and the teeth come out.

16:02And then there's a couple, which, you know, again, I'm leaning down.

16:06And that's where the headboard is, because he does at one point come across.

16:10Oh.

16:10It's the headboard.

16:11You can see the ding?

16:12You can see the ding in there.

16:13The blunt weapon, whatever it was, did not appear to come from Tracy's house.

16:17Her killer arrived with it or retrieved it from their vehicle.

16:20Larry worked for the water department and could have possibly had tools in his truck.

16:24But so could Steve, who was driving his car hauler that night.

16:27And then there's George, whose work equipment included knives.

16:30And then show me how you're going to get a pocket knife out and slit my throat.

16:34How do we get those?

16:35We know there's blood on this comforter, right?

16:37Something got laid on this quilt at some point, weapon, whatever.

16:41Let's say he lays it on the bed.

16:43Lays it on the bed.

16:45Now you're cutting her throat twice.

16:47Now you're choking.

16:49Because we know she didn't die from her throat being cold.

16:51I think he cut her throat and it's not working like he thought.

16:55When you have three suspects, all of whom may have had a romantic interest in the victim,

17:01any one of them could have felt rejected or gotten angry with her that night.

17:06But with the injuries and the explosive rage that happened when this murder was committed,

17:11you would expect to find a suspect that has some kind of prior violent criminal history.

17:16And in 28 years, the only suspect with that kind of history is Larry Holloway.

17:21I can't even think of a more painful way to die.

17:23You know she breathes her own blood.

17:25She's losing teeth.

17:26Her jaw's broken.

17:27Her face is being crushed in.

17:29And he's welling away at her liver and her stomach, too.

17:32And he strangles and he cuts her throat.

17:34And she still survives the throat cutting.

17:37That's a long, miserable, painful death.

17:40Okay, so let's look at what we need still to do.

17:54We got to go talk to Steve and Webb.

17:57Are you all wanting to talk to Steve?

17:58Are you wanting us to talk to Steve?

17:59Or how are you all going to do that?

18:00Uh, you go do Steve.

18:01And then Hayley and I will hit the other four Searcy people and make our three phone calls.

18:06I'm still leaning towards my theory that Tracy's estranged husband, Larry, is the one who killed her.

18:10While Kelly thinks it's the recent boyfriend, George.

18:13But we also have a third suspect, Steve Webb.

18:16The individual who met her earlier that night actually went home with her and got caught lying about it.

18:21Do you ever get a confession on any of these cold cases?

18:25Rarely.

18:26Steve said Tracy wasn't his type and he did pass a polygraph.

18:30But he's not out of the woods yet.

18:32Steve, if you wouldn't care, would you sit in that passenger seat up there?

18:38So I know you was at the Elks that night, right?

18:41And she came in, I guess, shoot and pull or something like that.

18:44Yeah, she was shooting and pull.

18:45Drank a little bit and shoot and pull?

18:46Yes.

18:47And I took her home and she invited me in to have a drink.

18:50I did, I had a glass of tea.

18:52We could sit there and talk for a little bit and I got up and left.

18:54Okay.

18:55And that's, I mean, she told me she was having a terrible time with her ex-husband, her husband,

18:59the BX or whatever.

19:00Did you think you was going to get some or did she offer any of it?

19:03Wasn't that at all.

19:05It wasn't that kind of deal?

19:06No.

19:07No.

19:07You first kind of denied about being out there, what?

19:10I didn't because I thought he already had the person that did it.

19:13I didn't have no clue.

19:14Yeah.

19:15That's what happened.

19:16I was reaching the admission and I found out and I thought, well, we better do what's right.

19:19So I did exactly what I was right.

19:21They looked at you, no injuries on your arms or anything like that?

19:23No.

19:24I didn't do this.

19:26I wouldn't have a reason to do this.

19:27I didn't say you didn't have any reason to kill her, did you?

19:29No.

19:30Steve said he initially lied to the police because he thought the police had actually already

19:33caught Tracy's killer.

19:34So his interactions with her were actually irrelevant.

19:38It's an odd excuse.

19:40We appreciate you.

19:42But Steve's truck was actually seen backing out of Tracy's driveway about 1230 a.m.

19:47And we know that she called her husband about 130 a.m., which would suggest to us that she

19:52was alive well after the time Steve left.

19:54He didn't do that.

19:56No.

19:56She was so fun and sweet.

20:02And I remember she would, like, practice on me, like, doing nails and stuff like that.

20:07And she had this precious little boy.

20:11She really loved her little boy.

20:13She rented that little house.

20:15He was so thankful that she had a place to live.

20:18The biggest thing I remember is just her feeling this zest for life and just this confidence

20:24about where her career was going.

20:26Talking to Tracy's friends, you can feel how much they loved her and how much they still

20:31miss her.

20:32This just makes us want to try even harder to solve her case.

20:37I remember her looking forward to turning 30 and telling us she was planning to go out.

20:42We were all shocked.

20:43From the start, Haley and I believed that George was the most viable suspect.

20:49He had scratches on his arms.

20:51He had a burn pile going on in his yard.

20:54He had an odd story about going to a bookstore that very night.

20:58And he had access to some unusual tools where he worked.

21:04Hello?

21:05Hey, this is Detective DiNapoli, the Searcy Police Department.

21:08Yes.

21:09I'm new to looking over the Holloway case, and I'm seeing here that you knew Tracy.

21:15I was wondering if I could ask you some questions.

21:17We can meet up, maybe.

21:19Um, sure.

21:21Can I meet with you here in just a few minutes?

21:23I can just meet you right over there.

21:25Thank you so much.

21:27Bye.

21:28That was pretty damn cooperative.

21:30Yeah.

21:30That doesn't usually happen.

21:31I'm just saying.

21:32I'm hearing that.

21:33Haley played it very casual and cool, getting George to come in.

21:38She might be really young, but she has a way of talking to people and listening, where she could really be cut out to work on cases just like this.

21:47What do you remember about Tracy?

21:49How was y'all's relationship?

21:51I guess it was okay.

21:53There wasn't, like, any issues with it.

21:55Um, but I think we had kind of stopped seeing each other shortly before that.

22:00Would you say the relationship was serious or just kind of tragic?

22:03No, it was pretty casual.

22:04I think there was a couple sexual encounters.

22:07It was her birthday the day before her death.

22:09Did you call her at all?

22:10Was she happy birthday?

22:12I don't think so.

22:14I don't think I had had any contact with her for, like, at least a week.

22:19How come?

22:20She was still married, if I remember right.

22:23It was a little bit guilt.

22:25So the first you hear about this lady that you had been seeing is brutally murdered, what do you think?

22:30I was, I was in shock.

22:33I mean, I couldn't believe it.

22:35And it was, it was terrifying.

22:37Because you were right in the middle of it.

22:38Yeah.

22:39You remember when they first approached you, you were out at your house in the backyard that day, working in your barn?

22:44Yeah, I had that shop building.

22:46Yes, sir, and you had a fire going.

22:49Yeah, probably.

22:50Remember anything about the cops checking, digging through the fire?

22:53I remember one of them told me that they had dug through it.

22:56And, but I mean, I was all the time burning stuff out there.

22:59And there was tree limbs, and there was a little house that was next door to me that I was slowly trying to dismantle when I was burning stuff, so.

23:06When you came into the police department that following day, you did have some scratches on your arms.

23:12Where, where do you think that would have been from?

23:14Right, from rushing tree limbs or whatever it was.

23:17So it's common for you to have to tell me.

23:19And I'm sure they asked you back then where you were the night before.

23:23Oh, yeah.

23:24And what'd you tell them, you remember?

23:25Well, probably just sitting at home.

23:27Remember anything about a book?

23:29Because there's a receipt in the file from Books A Million, and going to Books A Million at 10 o'clock or so at night, would that have been unusual?

23:37That actually does sound a little unusual to be that late.

23:40And we asked that because the Books A Million is close to the Elks Lodge, which is where Tracy spent her birthday that night.

23:47Did you ever go to the Elks Lodge with her?

23:50No.

23:51Never?

23:51Never been there.

23:52Here's the problem, George.

23:54Haley and I are working on this case.

23:56But in the middle of all of it that makes it just messy is you.

24:00And you understand why.

24:02Yeah.

24:02And you still came down here today.

24:04Yeah.

24:05How come?

24:07Because I don't have anything to hide.

24:10If I can help you guys in any way determine who did do this to her and to her son, then yeah, I want to help.

24:19Okay.

24:20You all want to get to the truth?

24:22So do I.

24:22Well, I definitely don't think it's him at all.

24:26My spider sense is not tingling.

24:29We appreciate it.

24:30Thank you very much.

24:31Just honestly.

24:32After talking to George Johnson, I admit I was wrong.

24:36But whoever committed this murder is a monster.

24:39He's more like a teddy bear.

24:41Did you all get to listen to that?

24:42We did.

24:42I told you I can admit when I'm wrong.

24:46I thought he was sincere.

24:47I think he's a good guy.

24:48I just think him and Tracy had this fling.

24:51Yeah.

25:02We need to focus back on Tracy's husband, Larry, and Larry's story about what happened that night.

25:09Right.

25:09Tracy calls Larry at 1.34.

25:13I think Larry is just fuming.

25:15Was supposed to come over probably about 10 or 11.

25:18And I just think that he is fantasizing that she's at home with some guy having sex.

25:23And, you know, this was just pure rage.

25:26How did he get in the house?

25:28She let him in.

25:28We need to learn more about Tracy and Larry's relationship.

25:32Could his jealousy have led to her murder?

25:35Would she have opened the door for him?

25:38Tracy's girlfriends may know.

25:40Would you describe Larry as being jealous?

25:44Yes.

25:45He was just on her all the time.

25:48Just hovering over her.

25:51Because I think Larry didn't want to let go.

25:56She was terrified of her ex-husband.

25:59Larry?

26:00Yes.

26:01Because he was so jealous.

26:03Did he call up there constantly harassing her or anything?

26:05Yeah.

26:06Trying to see what she's doing?

26:07And he would sit out and watch.

26:10I've been a minister for many, many years.

26:12Mm-hmm.

26:13And Larry could just walk by me and I could just feel demons on him.

26:19They fought like crazy.

26:21Larry was real jealous of the fact that she was living apart from him.

26:28Seeing other men.

26:29Seeing other men.

26:29He would drive by all the time.

26:32So he definitely didn't want the divorce.

26:34He did not want the divorce.

26:36There was times that he would even cry.

26:38He had tears rolling down his face telling me, I can't be without her.

26:42And that no other man was going to raise his son.

26:45These women clearly described Larry's jealous and obsessive behaviors.

26:50Sounds like he wasn't getting the message that Tracy was finally done with him.

26:53Do you think she was still being intimate with Larry at that time?

26:56Um, at least twice because I was told by him and by her.

27:02They've been sleeping together a little bit?

27:04Yeah.

27:04Recently, right before the murder?

27:06Yeah, not too long before.

27:08Okay.

27:08Which was another reason I felt like he was so obsessed.

27:12It sounds like Larry and Tracy's relationship was in its final messy stages,

27:17which could account for Larry's emotional state

27:19and may have explained why she wouldn't have been afraid to open the door and let him into the house.

27:23After Tracy was killed, I worked with Larry's brother, Alan Holloway.

27:28Alan was talking about the day that Tracy was killed.

27:32He said that he was laying there in the bed, but he heard the phone ring.

27:37And then Larry picked it up and was talking.

27:39He said that he heard Larry leave the apartment.

27:43You know, I looked at him and I said, what?

27:46And that's when he stopped talking.

27:47He went silent.

27:48She has a conversation with Alan, who was Larry's brother, a few years after the murder.

27:54And Alan blurts out, when I got home that night, I heard the phone ring and then I heard Larry leave.

27:59That's something Alan never told police.

28:01We need to talk to Alan.

28:03How are you feeling, Miss Hamie?

28:15Good, I'm excited.

28:17Yeah?

28:17Yeah.

28:18You're excited.

28:19Are you feeling pressure, too, or just exciting?

28:21Just excited.

28:22Yes, I feel it.

28:23That's what comes of being so young.

28:26The hard part is that it's been so long, and this is his blood brother.

28:30We've come home to Texas to talk to Alan Holloway, Larry Holloway's blood brother, and he was his roommate the night of the murder.

28:40He could be the make-or-break witness to this case because Alan has told a witness that that night, Larry left the house.

28:48Hi there.

28:54Hey, are you Alan?

28:55That's me, yeah.

28:55Hey, I'm Detective DiNapoli.

28:57Sorry.

28:58Where are we looking into the Tracy Holloway case?

29:01I'm glad.

29:02We were wondering if you'd be willing to-

29:04I'm just glad.

29:04I'm so glad.

29:06Yeah, anything I can do to help.

29:08Okay.

29:08It's always a relief to hear someone reworking a case.

29:13I'm just glad that it's not-

29:16Forgotten.

29:17Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

29:19First question is just, what do you remember from that night?

29:35First question is just, what do you remember from that night?

29:37Larry's room was on the front side of the apartment, and I was on the back side, and by the time that I got home at whatever time, 11-ish, everybody was going to sleep.

29:47But I don't remember the phone call.

29:50You don't remember the phone call?

29:51How did you know there was a phone call?

29:52The officers had mentioned that there was a call on the caller ID from Tracy to Larry there at the apartment.

29:59It was like 1.30-ish or something like that in the morning.

30:03But that was the big conversation about the caller ID and the call that was made.

30:07Alan says he was asleep and did not hear the phone call or know about it until the next morning.

30:14But this contradicts what we have heard from a witness and was part of Alan's own initial statement.

30:21So in 5, there's this.

30:23We both went to bed around 12.

30:26Tracy called at approximately 1.36 a.m.

30:29Yeah, and seeing that's the part, I don't even know why I would have put that in there.

30:36Was Alan confused back then?

30:38Is he confused now?

30:39Or is he covering for his brother?

30:42And you know what the suspicions are about this conversation with your brother.

30:46I can only imagine.

30:47What do you think?

30:48There was opportunity for him to leave.

30:52If he sees somebody that he didn't want to see or sees something that he didn't want to see,

30:57something could have happened.

30:58The last person to talk to her when she was alive was this 1.36 phone call.

31:03Yeah.

31:04The last person that talked to her alive is your brother.

31:07That's right.

31:08That's right.

31:08And we know their relationship, and it wasn't good.

31:12Ladies, I don't know.

31:14You want to believe witnesses are telling you the truth?

31:17He's very smooth.

31:18He's very articulate.

31:20But anyone who's been in law enforcement for a while understands that blood doesn't talk

31:24on blood, and when they do, it's very, very rare.

31:27Do you remember working with the Carol Moore?

31:29Yeah.

31:29Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

31:30That's Tracy's cousin.

31:33Did you all ever talk about Tracy's death at all?

31:35No.

31:36So there wouldn't be any reason why she says that you had a conversation with her about

31:39Larry leaving that night?

31:40No, not at all.

31:41Okay.

31:42Not at all.

31:42I do not remember Larry leaving that night.

31:47After speaking with Alan, I thought that what he did was put a complete show on for us.

31:52Thank you, Alan.

31:53I appreciate it.

31:54All right.

31:55Bye-bye.

31:55I did not feel that he was genuine.

31:58I felt like it was very rehearsed, maybe.

32:00It became kind of a little too much.

32:03Try to convince us too much.

32:05Over the top.

32:06Good morning.

32:14Hey, guys.

32:15Big day, big day.

32:16What you thinking?

32:17I went by earlier this morning.

32:20Both cars were there over at Larry's house.

32:22So I want to go try while we know they're there.

32:24Can we follow and listen?

32:26Yeah.

32:27All right.

32:27Well, good luck.

32:28Come on.

32:28Let's go jump in.

32:29You want to drive or you want me to drive?

32:31I'll drive.

32:31We believe Larry was desperate to keep Tracy in his life.

32:34He's used violence and threats in the past.

32:36He's also the person who we believe was the last individual to talk to her.

32:41We need to talk to Larry.

32:42But will he talk to us?

32:45So I've been thinking about what we're going to talk about.

32:47Let's see what direction he goes in here.

32:49I don't think he's exactly a lover of law, unfortunately.

32:53No.

32:53Definitely not.

32:54I don't know.

32:58I can hardly imagine that for 27 years, there's two cops knocking on your door.

33:04And all of a sudden, it's right back in your face.

33:09Hello.

33:09How you doing?

33:10Good.

33:10Is Larry Holloway here?

33:12That's me.

33:12That's you, sir?

33:13We're looking into your late wife's homicide from back in 97.

33:18And we just wanted to see if you had a minute to talk about it.

33:20Yeah.

33:21Let me get my shoes on.

33:22Okay.

33:22We'll be out in the car.

33:23All right.

33:24Whoa.

33:25He's coming out.

33:27Have a seat.

33:28We're just trying to go through the entire case file and get everybody's story and everything.

33:34So what can you tell us about 97?

33:35I'm going to cut it short because I'm just going to be honest with you, man.

33:38I'm not going to go there.

33:40Okay.

33:40Yeah.

33:41Without a lawyer.

33:42I've been told that it's going to get turned around on me if I keep running my mouth about it.

33:48I was told this when it first started.

33:50Well, here's what I can tell you.

33:50I want to solve your wife's murder.

33:52I want you to.

33:54Hey, Mr. Halliburton, one of the things we were looking at is if she was having any sexual relations with anybody that you know of.

34:00I'm sure she was.

34:02I mean, we heard she might have tried to get back with you.

34:04Well, no.

34:05As far as us getting back together, I didn't see that happening.

34:09That's good.

34:10That's not what Donna says.

34:12Do you remember her calling you that night at about 1.30, 1.36 in the morning?

34:15Because she was supposed to pick up your son.

34:18Yeah, I can't remember if I called her or if she called me.

34:21But I do remember talking to her.

34:23You never left the house that night after she called me?

34:25No.

34:26No, I was right there.

34:27So he's the last one to talk to her alive?

34:29Yeah.

34:30I know all this is on record that I'm talking about right here.

34:35No, I didn't kill my wife.

34:37He's not as dumb as I thought he was.

34:40Y'all be careful.

34:41Thank you, sir.

34:42He's very guarded.

34:44He knows what to say.

34:45Yeah.

34:45The only guy that has stonewalled this whole investigation since the beginning is Larry Holloway.

34:50He wouldn't even get in the car.

34:51And his first statement to us was, I'm going to keep this short.

34:53I'm not going to say anything.

34:55When you brought up the phone call, he locks himself in as the last person known to talk to Tracy.

35:01And he took away from what Donna told you when he said, I knew we weren't getting back together.

35:07Right.

35:07It was all friendly.

35:09Nobody expected Larry Holloway to confess.

35:12But there is enough circumstantial evidence here for us to present to the prosecutor's office.

35:17And it's time for us to do that and move this case forward.

35:31So, when we started all this, we had three suspects on our board.

35:42Tracy's case was never going to be a case solved by forensic evidence.

35:46It's going to come down to all the little pieces of circumstantial evidence that we have uncovered.

35:52First, Mr. Stephen Webb.

35:54He didn't do himself any favors.

35:55He didn't come out with the truth from the very beginning.

35:58I thought he had what he had the person who did. I didn't have no clue.

36:01I simply think he was at the wrong place.

36:04Also, those three witnesses that saw Steve Webb's truck out there that night, they saw him leave her house.

36:11Right.

36:11There was a phone call inside that house made after Steve Webb left.

36:15Absolutely.

36:16So, we know she was alive.

36:17And the other thing is with the overkill that we're talking about in this case, there's no motive.

36:22Worse, the motive for that kind of kill on Steve Webb.

36:25This isn't somebody I just met in the club.

36:26So, this is years of something going on, right?

36:29What's everybody's vote on eliminating him once and for all?

36:32Eliminate.

36:33Eliminate.

36:34Steve?

36:34Eliminate him.

36:35Steve Webb was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

36:39And he stupidly lied to the police about it.

36:42But there's a big difference between being stupid and being a killer.

36:45Okay.

36:47George Johnson II.

36:49The guy that I came into town thinking was looking like the best suspect I'd met.

36:53I think when you read the report, there were a lot of assumptions made.

36:57Like, when they went out to his house, there was a fire burning.

37:00The fact that he worked with all kinds of knives and tools.

37:04The fact that they hadn't talked for a whole week by phone.

37:08Was he heartbroken over it or not?

37:10The fact that he came into town to pick up a book that's right by the Elks Lodge.

37:14I kind of zeroed on that one, too.

37:16He had scratches on him.

37:17And then you called him up because you wanted to see with your own eyes what you thought about him.

37:21And what's the first thing he says when he walks in the room?

37:23I don't have anything to hide and I want to help.

37:25Y'all want to get to the truth?

37:27So do I.

37:28Every question that we asked him, he had an answer and a good answer for it.

37:32I felt like he's very truthful.

37:33The scratches on him.

37:35They look like yard work to me, man.

37:37He needs to be eliminated.

37:38Okay.

37:39BJ, what do you think?

37:40Oh, definitely.

37:41I couldn't have been more wrong about George Johnson.

37:44And I admit it because he had nothing to do with Tracy's murder.

37:48So now we're sitting here and we've got Larry Holloway up on the board.

37:51What's your strongest evidence that you would lead with?

37:53The time before the murder, they're going through this divorce.

37:58I think that he is surprised that Tracy is able to get out and she gets a house.

38:03She's picked up a guy.

38:05Tracy tells people she thinks she's being followed.

38:07He would drive by all the time.

38:09He's over at Carol's house saying, I can't live without her.

38:13Where's she at?

38:13Who's she with?

38:14He had tears rolling down his face telling me I can't be without her.

38:18And that no other man was going to raise his son.

38:21He brings in a plant and candy that morning to Tracy at the hair salon and says, hey, it's your 30th.

38:27You want to go out tonight?

38:28And she says, no, not with you.

38:30She's told people it's over.

38:32You think of what he's thinking here.

38:33He's just a raging bull at this time.

38:35Let the jury see the pictures of this woman's face.

38:38This is like destruction.

38:40Pain.

38:40This is your worst enemy that you would do something like that to.

38:43This wasn't George and this wasn't Steve.

38:46Larry's your guy right here.

38:47Larry's history of violence, his obsession with Tracy, that phone call between them, and the brutality of her injuries suggests that he killed her in a fit of jealous rage.

39:00So what's your request of your prosecutor, BJ?

39:03I'm going to ask my prosecutor.

39:04She proceed with charges against Larry Hallway for murder in the first degree.

39:09How are you feeling about it, Haley?

39:10Maybe I'm optimistic, but I'm ready and I'm excited.

39:13And hopefully we can get something followed.

39:14How are you feeling about telling Donna the good news, BJ?

39:32I'm glad I'm going to get to tell her mama she deserves this.

39:37What do you want to say to Donna, Haley?

39:40Um, just that I'm sorry it took so long.

39:48Um, I think she's going to be so happy to hear this news today.

39:54She's going to be okay.

40:00To talk to Donna today, there's so many emotions there.

40:03Donna's hurting.

40:04Donna's been hurting for 28 years.

40:05And she deserves justice.

40:12Working with Kelly has been absolutely amazing.

40:15Good morning, Miss Donna.

40:17She has a passionate way to show you that what you do, it's not just a job.

40:22It's a calling, and these families can't get justice without you.

40:26Well, we're sorry to keep you waiting, but we've got the best news you've probably heard in 28 years.

40:31We talked to our prosecutor yesterday, and we are sending a case file over to her for the arrest of Larry Hallway for a capital murder.

40:46There's a lot to put together, so it's going to take some time because it's complex.

40:52But, I mean, she's positive about it.

40:54She liked the case.

40:54She liked it.

40:56Oh, my God.

40:57We got to talk to a lot of Tracy's friends, and every person that I talked to was happy that you allowed this to happen and that we were able to do this for you.

41:09Tracy's friends, Tracy's workers at the salon, all of them.

41:18It has had my life tore up for a long, long time.

41:21I'm just ecstatic.

41:24I'm so thankful.

41:27You guys came forward and just saved the day.

41:31I'm sorry it took so long.

41:32I mean, it's not your fault, but thank God for you guys.

41:36How do you do this?

41:37How do you just keep?

41:39Well, it helps when it ends like this, and you have a prosecutor here who's doing her job and excited to do this job, and I wish that happened everywhere.

41:47You also, BJ's been on your side for a while, and now you've got Haley on your side forever, okay?

41:54Oh, my goodness.

41:56Tracy, what do you want me to do now?

41:58I think she would say, keep living your life, Mama.

42:01I know she would.

42:02I know she would.

42:03To be able to tell Tracy's mom good news that the case is finally moving forward is a wonderful feeling.

42:11It's wonderful meeting you.

42:13Also, it's pretty nice to know that we're walking away leaving future cold case investigations in even better hands with BJ and with Haley,

42:22and knowing that they're going to be excited to get justice for maybe even more victims out there.

42:27Thank you for everything this week, seriously.

42:30I feel like you're my kid.

42:32No.

42:32I got to see you start your career, and you're going to be a great cop, all right?

42:41Thank y'all for believing in me.

42:43I needed that.

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