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Mumbai: In an exclusive conversation with Actress Sonakshi Sinha and Shilpa Shirodkar, where they shared their experience working on the film 'Jatadhara'. Then, they discussed immersing themselves in their characters, navigating the supernatural themes, and the pressure of appealing to audiences. After that, they reflected on their growth, sharing fond memories of past projects like 'Gopi Kishan' and 'Lootera'. At the end, they conveyed a message to their fans.

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00:00So, hello Shilpa ma'am, hello Sonakshi ma'am, welcome to NS and first of all congratulations for Jatadara that's about to release on 7th of November.
00:07My question is to both of you, while working on this film, it's a different world altogether, you know, action is very stylized, you did action in Akira but this is something very different from what you have done earlier.
00:18Same goes for you, you know, again a different world, different narrative, the tone is pitched a little higher.
00:24How was it getting one with the universe of the film, one with your own characters and how did you navigate that path as you moved along?
00:32Anyone can take the lead and start.
00:34Well, no, so for me, A, it was like you correctly said, it's very different to what I've played in my previous movies or,
00:47but I think the directors had such a clear vision of what they wanted to shoot.
00:53When they narrated the script to us, it was very, very clear that this is how it is going to be and we did nothing different.
01:00It was not that when we landed up on the set, it was totally different, differently shot or differently set.
01:08So, as an actor, somewhere down the line, we knew exactly what we were getting into.
01:13Obviously, there is a switch on switch off button that we use every day in our lives.
01:20We don't carry anything home and luckily for us, this film was all shot in a single schedule.
01:27So, it was very easy to go on set, perform as per the director's vision and then just come home and kind of sleep well.
01:42Okay.
01:43And yes, you're right, there is a different world, but it's a matter of, I think for every actor when you do a character,
01:50you just leave it there and you don't tend to sit over it and think, oh, it's good, it's good, it's good.
01:58Because at the end of the day, it's all written.
02:00Yeah.
02:01It's not something that we've experienced or anything like that.
02:04Was it very easy or difficult to cleanse your system out of this character?
02:07Well, I know how to cut my cord.
02:10So, yeah, there was no cleansing of the system.
02:13Like I said, you know, shooting when you come home, you just, and I think you're so tired as an actor.
02:19Yeah.
02:20Doing what you're doing, you just want to sleep.
02:23Yeah.
02:24There's no time to process, okay, I'll do something else tomorrow.
02:27There's nothing like that.
02:29Okay.
02:30And how about you, man?
02:31Yeah.
02:32I think being a part of a world like this was very exciting to me, first of all, as an actor,
02:35which is why I agreed to do the film.
02:37And the world that they've created and how the story has been woven into so many different things,
02:45like folklore, a little bit of mythology, a little bit of mystery, a little bit of thrill,
02:50a little bit of supernatural elements, jis tara se in saari cheezo ko, matlab ek film mein bandha gaya hai,
02:57I thought that was very, very interesting.
02:59And as an actor, for me to do a role which is so different, that was the draw for me in this film.
03:06Okay.
03:07And you did a supernatural film in a very quick succession.
03:10Before that, it was Kakura, I believe.
03:12Yeah.
03:13So.
03:14Kakura and then I did Nikita Roy and then I've done this.
03:16Yeah.
03:17I think this supernatural genre is sticking my liking to me.
03:21Was walking in, walking out like a cakewalk for you?
03:23A movewalk?
03:24For me it is, generally is, because I'm a, like she said, a switch on switch off actor.
03:28I don't take my work home.
03:30Set par jo hoti hun, mein wo hoti hun.
03:32Jo character mushe ho na hota, mein wo hoti hun.
03:34Ghera ke mein ap, I'm myself.
03:36Toh, it's not that big of a thing ki, you know, I take my character home with me and I live with it and I,
03:44I don't, I don't want to say that I do.
03:47Yeah.
03:48Har kisi ka method alag alag hoti hun.
03:50True.
03:51And each to their own.
03:52Yeah.
03:53True, true.
03:54And this reminded me of what Shah Rukh sir had said years ago.
03:56I think it was during the time of My Name Is Khan.
03:58He said that to get it right is something an actor can do and it can turn out very boring.
04:05He said that the fun lies in going wrong and treading off the path because then you could,
04:10it opens up a new world for you, you know, going wrong, then coming back, making minor tweaks,
04:15streamlining it away.
04:16But how else do you learn?
04:17You learn by making mistakes, no?
04:18Or kaisa sikho ga?
04:19Yeah.
04:20Yeah.
04:21So, I feel that applies to every phase of life and every profession, you know, that people
04:32are in.
04:33So, it's nice also.
04:34It keeps things exciting.
04:36Yeah.
04:37The learning process, I feel, should never stop.
04:39True.
04:40So, I feel the learning process should never get over and I feel we are in such a profession
04:53that every day, you learn something new.
04:56Absolutely.
04:57Yeah.
04:58So, but what I meant to ask was that, are you obsessed with getting it right from the get-go
05:02or right off the bat, both of you?
05:04How can you get it right?
05:06Yeah.
05:07I mean, as actors, every film that is offered to you, even if she has done supernatural films
05:12before, this has been a challenge in her own way for her as an actor.
05:16So, it's never getting it right.
05:17Yeah.
05:18You are always in fact challenging yourself ki mein aur alak kya karo.
05:21Yeah.
05:22So, I think that getting it right is like telling me yourself ki mujhe sab pata hai.
05:26I've got it right this time.
05:28Yeah.
05:29I have nailed it.
05:30It's not, it's not A, the right approach also to your work.
05:34Yeah.
05:35I agree.
05:36But it's also like, what do you say?
05:39Like, it's so much added pressure na?
05:41Mm-hmm.
05:42Who is, what is right?
05:43Yeah, we don't know.
05:44What is right for you might not be right for me.
05:45Absolutely.
05:46What is right for me might not be right for my director.
05:47Mm-hmm.
05:48Toh, who's right are we talking about?
05:49Yeah.
05:50True.
05:51As an actor, you have to go in and perform to the best of your ability.
05:53Aapko jo samaj me aaya character ke baare mein aapko karo.
05:56Correct.
05:57You know?
05:58So, it's a very relative term, I think, getting it right.
06:00Yeah.
06:01Okay.
06:02And we were talking about, you know, the learnings in this industry and this profession as we go along.
06:09Now again, this question is open to both of you.
06:10You have been in the industry for so long, you know, you have literally seen the industry changing and evolving with the time.
06:17The way industry functioned in the 90s is very different from what it is today.
06:18You know, there are corporates, you know, handling the entire structure of the film from the pre-production to the
06:20pre-production to, to the 90s, which is very different.
06:21Aapko jo samaj me aapko jay ka aapko jay ka ka
06:35Yeah.
06:36And we were talking about the learnings in this industry and this profession as we go along.
06:39from what it is today you know there are corporates now you know handling the
06:43entire structure of the film from the pre-production to the release in the
06:48theaters I mean it's a whole clockwork that goes into you know making and
06:53releasing films in that sense how has the actor in you evolved and for you
06:58again close to 15 years in the industry how is that journey been for you this
07:04going through this change so I basically feel the we all have to change your
07:10time if we need work if you want to work in today's times you have to change it
07:15and you cannot come with your baggage of what you've done then and how do you
07:20can't give people gyan anymore because like you said that there's an entire new
07:24world outside and they we are looking for work or seeking for work and wanting to
07:29be a part of that world so we have to somewhere down this line say that you
07:34know what I'm an actor you're a director or you're a producer or you're a DOP and
07:39you're you do your work I'll do my work and then the film works out correctly
07:45because there's no point in saying ki main itne saal se kaam karriya
07:49mujhe pata yeh angle galat hai yeh boli nahi sakte hai
07:52matlab bolni bolna zaruri nahi hai agar pata bhi chale aaj monitors hai sab
07:57dekh sakte hai and then when your team becomes understands you as a actor or you
08:04understand that technicians value then there's a you can discuss saying ki you
08:11know I think this can be done this way and then things are different but if you
08:14go with the mindset that you know what the world has changed but I'm going to
08:19bring what I know on the table I think you rather sit at home so that's my point
08:25and I think that goes very well you mentioned about the camera angles now
08:29getting it wrong maybe sometimes you know it again it can open up a new door
08:33like for a short which is surreal you need a dutch pen you can't go with a
08:37dolly in it won't create that effect in that sense and for you how was it for you
08:41navigating this path as the industry world and there honestly I came in at a
08:45time where a lot of changes were just coming into effect in terms of like
08:49social media in terms of like pap culture in terms of film se digital ho ra tha so my
08:58first cup first film I shot on a film and it just became in mid actually in the
09:04middle only I think it became no Dabang I shot on digital and the only film I shot on
09:08film was Lotera oh okay so that whole transition had happened so all this
09:12monitors and all already are chukai hai so for me that's my way of no it was like
09:18matlab usmehi mein badhi ho as an actor as a person everything I've learnt I've
09:24learnt on set and so these things were already there by then so I guess that's
09:27just the way I know it I wouldn't know how it was you know in her time she's been
09:31such a huge star I mean her film mein shilpa shiroj karthi at one point of time
09:36yeah of course yeah and like she's done so much work in a time at a time where it
09:41was digitally not so convenient correct you know so to speak of course and by the time
09:47I came in everything was like matlab haat pe you can see the monitor you can see retake
09:53matlab jitne bhi take karne karlo it's so easy to be right today film do the right thing
09:58no waste nahi ho raha hai to karo jitne take karne kya karna hai matlab it just I just started
10:04working at a point like that and so far in the 15 years I would say that things have
10:09pretty much been like that and yeah I think a lot more new changes are now also starting
10:17to come in but we have to adapt yeah technology wise and all like look at the VFX that we are
10:23doing nowadays imagine a film like this being made in such a short span of time you know
10:28a lot of technological changes are happening and but you just have to just adapt with the
10:33time I guess yeah and coming back to the film you know this whole pan and deaf film moment
10:38it started much earlier we have seen films of Rajni sir Kamal sir but it gained prominence
10:44more so after Bahubali you know every like every third film is now pitched to the audience
10:51across the India now when you're making a film with that mindset does it add up to the
10:57pressure as a performer ki ar meri ye set audience ke beyond ja ki aap to perform and hook or appeal
11:03to the audience it's actually quite exciting for me at least you're like I don't want like
11:07I said I don't want to take any added pressure but I'm also very excited about the fact that
11:11I'll be reaching a whole new audience you know and a kasi audience jahan par wo matlab agar
11:17aap ke saath jud gai as an actor to wo ekdam loyal rehte hai ekdam judi jate hai so it was
11:23very exciting for me to be a part of an industry like that you know like I can showcase a side
11:29of me which they also want to see yeah you know so it's fun too and how's it for you ma'am yeah I
11:35think it's the same there is you know the excitement quotient is much is more but there's no pressure
11:44as an actor the excitement is that oh my god I'm going to be going to be visible in a different
11:50region you know of the industry and like she said there's so much of love and respect for the work
11:57that you have done that they look at you also differently you know so yeah it's quite exciting
12:03the journey okay and taking further from that you know when you work on a film like Jatadhara I know
12:08you have artists practically from every corner of India coming in you know adding their own inputs
12:13what is that cross-pollination of art and the artists for you as actors like the more the merrier I
12:20guess yeah you know we work with such wonderful artists you get to learn so much from each and
12:26everyone everybody has their own story to tell yeah exactly and for me I think that's the best
12:33part about working with people from you know different regions different languages different
12:39cultures communities yes I think you would you just get to learn so much and I feel that really adds to
12:46your being a good actor you just have to sit and observe people listen to them listen to their stories
12:52you know so it's very important to be a good listener and observer I feel you know to be a good actor so
13:03it's nice to work with a whole lot of people yeah okay and for my last two questions first is for you
13:10ma'am film with you but one of my most favorites is Gopi Kishan yeah it's highly entertaining film and I
13:19think it was that film which in a way told the audience that you know Sunil Shetty sir could perform
13:24or pull off comedy with absolute finish it was the precursor to Hera Farin in many ways in terms of
13:29comedy what are your fondest memories of working on that film Gopi Kishan is my favorite and I always
13:34say that agar humare time mein social media ka thoda bhi aur hath hota toh wo film bohut bohut alaghi level pe
13:43log dekhte hain today after so many years people actually watch it thanks to you know whatever you
13:50see on television or the social media and stuff like that so my fondest memories were we never knew we
13:56were making such a funny film first of all and we used to I used to just act like what Deepak used
14:01to tell me to do and Sunil also used to act because we were like you know we were just doing like a fun
14:07film but we didn't know it was going to be so funny but jo bhi camera ke peechhe loog thae na wo har shot
14:13ke baag bhot haste thae ar hum loog onko pata hi nahi chalta hain ki huskyo rai kyunki monitor
14:17thae nahi toh jab hum loog onne woh film dekhi aur jab hum film alia mein hum loog onne press trial rakhata
14:25that time we used to have trial for the media and that's when we realized oh my god yeh aise
14:30bani hai kyunki i am not that hum hum hum kind of actor ki mein dubbing mein mujhe pata chalega
14:37ki mine film kaise bani hai ya kaise dikhi hai because I like to watch the entire product
14:42with the background and everything toh film alia mein jab hum loog onne trial rakhata and
14:47the entire media was laughing and I'm like yeh it actually funny hai you know like I also
14:53yeah and it's so good that when you go out after so many years also you know like people
15:00like you and so many others they always say ma'am hum loog onko aapki gopikishan bhot
15:04achche legi and I'm like haa thank you and lastly for you ma'am we were talking about films
15:11that have made an impact Luterra is one film in your filmography that I'm sure you are really
15:15really proud about in addition to audience that has seen and love that film working in a film like
15:21that and then to see the impact of that film a decade down the line what it does to the artist
15:26yeah I mean I I it just amazes me every time I meet someone the first thing they say is that we
15:31loved you in Luterra for a film to have that kind of impact after so many years still is just phenomenal
15:37and I'm just so proud and happy to be have been a part of it you know it's one of the best experiences
15:43of mine while working I was again this this was maybe the third or fourth film that I had signed at
15:49that point of time and a lot of people had told me don't do this film and I said I went with my
15:55instinct I went with my gut and I said no whatever happens I will do this film and because I see
16:00myself as Baki and that's what I did and I'm so glad that I did because till today I get so much love
16:08for that one character it's it's just beautiful yeah absolutely perfect so with that we have reached the
16:13end of this conversation so on that note thank you so much I wish all the best thank you thank you so
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