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Barclays' Khanna on APAC Business Strategy
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00:00
We are keeping watch on, you know, this U.S.-China trade deal.
00:04
That could potentially be a game changer for Barclays.
00:07
It's had a great run this year.
00:09
That could give the impetus for a better one.
00:13
Yes, Slinda.
00:14
And first of all, thank you for joining us at the 19th Barclays Asia Forum.
00:19
It's lovely to have you here again.
00:22
You're right.
00:22
You know, there's all eyes on what's happening with the discussions between President Xi and President Trump.
00:30
And if, as has been widely reported, and particularly by Bloomberg, the outcome is, you know, positive for the markets,
00:40
then I do expect that the current risk on trade that we've been seeing continues to develop.
00:46
We've had a strong year in Asia Pacific.
00:48
Our business has continued to develop and grow.
00:50
And this should give us further momentum.
00:53
So, yeah, pretty excited.
00:55
You've been building the business in Asia.
00:57
Where are the growth pockets right now?
00:59
There's a lot of optimism about Japan, for instance.
01:02
That seems to be key for a lot of the banks.
01:04
We have a very strong markets-oriented and investment banking business in Japan.
01:08
We've been investing in that over the last three or four years, making even further investments in that business.
01:13
And I'm pretty excited about what the opportunities lie ahead for that economy, and particularly our business.
01:21
The other big market, which, you know, a number of your guests and the markets have been talking about, is in India.
01:27
That's where I'm based as well.
01:29
So, that's another market where, you know, we have plans to continue to invest in the platform.
01:33
And then our investments in the region actually have been quite broad-based.
01:40
You know, we have a strong partnership in Australia with Barron Joey.
01:43
We are making investments there.
01:44
The private banking business, which I've talked about last year, we are building a booking platform in Singapore.
01:50
So, there are several pockets of investment.
01:53
But the two markets that we are particularly focused on are Japan, as you mentioned, and then, of course, India.
02:01
Playing to add headcount on the back of that, optimism and given, you know, all the signals so far with the global economy.
02:08
We've been steadily adding resources, but it's very targeted.
02:13
We like to earn our way as we go rather than build it and they will come.
02:17
Targeted how?
02:18
And what kind of numbers are you looking at?
02:19
Not, they're not massive numbers, but, you know, we've added, I'd like to think about 10 colleagues in our cash equities business in Hong Kong.
02:29
And there are further plans to add.
02:33
You know, our business doesn't require very large numbers of people, but it certainly does require bringing in skills that we may not have
02:41
or improving the quality of the talent that we have on the platform.
02:44
You touch on Barron Joey, Alia.
02:47
Of course, you have a stake there and the numbers have been great on the back of the bond market.
02:52
I'm just wondering whether there's any appetite to increase your stake in Barron Joey.
02:56
That's a strategic decision.
02:58
But as I understand it, we are very happy with our current ownership in the joint venture.
03:03
That's a great partnership.
03:05
The firms get along really well and we prosecute business together.
03:08
But at this time, you know, first of all, it's a question.
03:11
It's a strategic question.
03:12
But at this point, I think we are very comfortable with the ownership that we have.
03:16
AI has been front and center for a lot of companies.
03:18
The big question is the impact on your headcount.
03:21
How are you looking at that?
03:23
So, I'm going to step back a little bit.
03:26
You know, I've been in the industry 35 years.
03:28
Every several years, there's a new technology.
03:31
Well, I started when, you know, we didn't have computers yet.
03:35
So, I was on the floor when the first computers were introduced.
03:40
Every few years, there's a technology that promises to radically reshift the industry and shrink it.
03:47
Today, 35 years later, the industry has more talent, more capital, more resources,
03:53
and is significantly bigger than it was when I started.
03:56
So, I do believe that AI will not fundamentally change that long-term trend.
04:01
It'll change jobs.
04:03
You know, people will do different things.
04:06
But I don't believe that the aggregate headcount in the industry is going to be massively reshaped.
04:12
AI, one of our guests that we, you know, that will be speaking later today,
04:17
talked about AI permeating everything that we do.
04:22
It's going to be like air and water, in his view.
04:24
And I do concur and agree with that assessment.
04:28
But, you know, hopefully air and water allows everything to grow much faster
04:33
and doesn't really lead to shrinkage in anything.
04:34
So, given the potential that you mentioned, I'm just wondering whether that justifies the kind of run-up we've seen
04:40
in the likes of NVIDIA, now a $5 trillion company.
04:44
I'm not sure I'm entirely qualified as lender to, you know, to justify this.
04:49
What's the sense? Is there just so much optimism?
04:52
It is a radical technology.
04:54
I don't think anyone knows what is exactly the right number of investment.
05:01
But NVIDIA has a particularly important place in the ecosystem.
05:07
So, there are reasons for, there are justifications for the optimism.
05:11
But, you know, the particular level, that's very, very hard, certainly for me,
05:15
to determine whether it's exactly right or not.
05:17
Even as we talk about the positive signs, there are risks.
05:21
We saw how the Fed, you know, pushed back on another rate cut in December.
05:26
What's the biggest risk you see for your business here?
05:29
Well, in the short term, I mean, you know, the outcome of today's events.
05:34
Asia is largely an export-oriented economy.
05:37
All Asian economies have a big reliance on exports.
05:42
You know, the aftermath of Liberation Day has not been as dire as people have predicted.
05:50
But certainly, if, you know, today's events and news disappoints,
05:57
I think that will have a short-term impact.
06:00
I'm a big believer in secular trends, capital and, you know, the economy of the Asian.
06:05
The Asian economies continue to grow.
06:07
And I think five years, ten years from now,
06:10
Asia will continue to occupy a larger space of the global economy than it does today.
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