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00:00:00We have a song which none of you have heard yet, but I'd like to sing it for the first
00:00:05time really properly here in Dublin because this is a song about true attempt at unconditional
00:00:10love.
00:00:11It used to be all about us, now it's not about us at all, we're just there to facilitate
00:00:18a gathering really.
00:00:21It restores my faith in humanity, every day I get to see people singing together, we love
00:00:26it.
00:00:29When you get in the water, it reminds you to be humble, because you're just tiny again.
00:00:36We've kind of got to the point now where we realise what we're supposed to be doing, which
00:00:42is to provide a sense of community.
00:00:48We're only going to do 12 proper albums and that's real, less is more.
00:00:53Because you always have to think, well, if this was the last one, would I be happy?
00:00:58You know, moon music was always supposed to be the second part of music of the spheres.
00:01:04I think there was always a plan to keep the tour going and have this new album come out.
00:01:09It's sort of our manifesto.
00:01:11My way of looking at things right now in terms of how to not give up, how to accept reality and then try and find some way to look at it with love, basically.
00:01:22This is a good one.
00:01:23Honestly, one of the best.
00:01:25Two days in Dublin with old friends and no question the biggest rock band on the planet.
00:01:30Coldplay invited us to go behind the scenes of their record breaking tour at Croke Park.
00:01:35Then we spent a day with Chris out on the ocean ending with easily one of the coldest swims of my lifetime.
00:01:41It was a beautiful contrast.
00:01:42It's all about to unfold.
00:01:44Enjoy it.
00:01:45It doesn't get bigger than this.
00:01:46Thank you for just being the perfect audience.
00:01:47We love you so much.
00:01:48Be kind to yourself.
00:01:49Be kind to each other.
00:01:50I'm a safe journey home.
00:01:51Believe in love.
00:01:52We'll see you on Sunday.
00:01:53Goodbye.
00:01:54Do you do this much?
00:01:55Do you walk around empty?
00:01:56I'm a safe one.
00:01:57Yeah.
00:01:58I'm a safe one.
00:01:59I'm a safe one.
00:02:00I'm a safe one.
00:02:03Thank you for just being the perfect audience.
00:02:05We love you so much.
00:02:07Be kind to yourself.
00:02:08Be kind to each other.
00:02:09I'm a safe journey home.
00:02:10Believe in love.
00:02:11We'll see you on Sunday.
00:02:13Goodbye.
00:02:14Do you do this much?
00:02:23Do you walk around empty venues before you play?
00:02:25Only in the rain.
00:02:27Melancholy is my go-to emotion, so this is perfect.
00:02:30I was going to start at the end,
00:02:32but I don't even know if this will ever end this tour.
00:02:34Maybe it shouldn't.
00:02:35Well, who knows? You know, right now,
00:02:38we have one more show left of this leg,
00:02:40and then we've got some more stuff going on in October, November,
00:02:44and then see what happens.
00:02:45It's great, though. It's still fun. That's the thing.
00:02:47And it's been really nice to play here, actually,
00:02:49because these shows have been amazing.
00:02:51Ireland is just the best place to play shows.
00:02:54We came here on the first night.
00:02:56It was the size of this place.
00:02:57It's an amazing, very significant venue in Ireland,
00:03:02in Dublin, particularly.
00:03:03But it was just absolutely bananas.
00:03:06We were literally sort of blown away by the stage, by the crowd.
00:03:10We kind of got to the point now
00:03:12where we realize what we're supposed to be doing,
00:03:14which is to provide a nice kind of two hours of escapism
00:03:19and a sense of community and a sense of people feeling like
00:03:23that it's a safe place to feel happy feelings,
00:03:27because Chris says it every night on stage.
00:03:29You know, we're very lucky to witness this amount of people
00:03:32all hanging out together of every color and race, gender.
00:03:37Whatever it is, people are just happy to be together,
00:03:40and there's no kind of arguing.
00:03:43We got the memo.
00:03:44I mean, it's definitely what we show up for at a Coldplay show
00:03:47and other shows, but there's different experiences.
00:03:49And it also, to some degree, must take a bit of pressure off
00:03:51what is a good or a bad show.
00:03:53In some respects, does that take a little bit of that pressure off?
00:03:55Definitely.
00:03:56It's never the case that we don't notice every little mistake.
00:03:59In fact, we laugh about it quite a lot.
00:04:01Little things that no one would really notice, but we notice.
00:04:04Like a rim shot there on.
00:04:05Yeah, exactly.
00:04:06Johnny hit an absolute clanger the other day,
00:04:09and we were all in hysterics.
00:04:11Which song? Wait, I've got to know.
00:04:12Which one?
00:04:13Actually, it was the intro of Feels Like I'm Falling In Love.
00:04:16He forgot to switch the guitar on,
00:04:19and then he ran to switch it on,
00:04:21and then inadvertently played a semitone.
00:04:24It was the worst possible interval to get wrong,
00:04:28and it was horrific, but hilarious and funny,
00:04:30and it becomes a nice moment because it's proof that it's real.
00:04:34We focus less on the sort of technical side of things,
00:04:36and like, how did the vibe feel?
00:04:38Did we get the vibe right?
00:04:39Yeah, there's less pressure on the, how did we play?
00:04:42It's more about, did we connect?
00:04:43Was there a nice feeling in the room?
00:04:45And so, but the best part of the show is always the fans,
00:04:49you know, and if they're having a great time,
00:04:50then that makes it a good show.
00:04:51Yeah, you can tell.
00:04:52I mean, like from just kind of watching the videos
00:04:54and seeing the way that everybody is so ready
00:04:56when the lights go down, and even just the starting with the…
00:04:59Is it ET?
00:05:00It's ET.
00:05:01It's ET?
00:05:02Yes.
00:05:03Is that, whose idea was that?
00:05:04That was Chris from the get-go.
00:05:06I mean, we're obviously big Spielberg fans,
00:05:09and there's a sort of, you know,
00:05:11slightly outer spacey vibe going on.
00:05:14Yeah.
00:05:15So it was, it's quite, it's an amazing piece of music
00:05:17and quite exciting as well.
00:05:18Beautiful.
00:05:19So, you probably don't go up this, maybe you do go up this.
00:05:22Yes, I do work this bit.
00:05:24We're coming down the side.
00:05:26Yeah.
00:05:27Then we go under and up, and then go to the main stage,
00:05:29and then there's a couple of sections where we all play here
00:05:33on the B stage, out in the middle, and then towards the end
00:05:36we go out to the C stage.
00:05:37Yeah.
00:05:38Chris finishes up out there and we walk back up
00:05:40and do the end of the show, and then off we go.
00:05:43It's timed pretty carefully.
00:05:45I mean, you look pretty relaxed, but you've got to be up there
00:05:48by the time it's ready to go.
00:05:50Yeah, although for me it's all right because I'm the one who,
00:05:53you know, initiates things as it were.
00:05:55Kicks it off.
00:05:56If I'm not in my spot, nothing's happening.
00:05:59Yeah.
00:06:00There's a bit of pressure on me,
00:06:01but because we're so in tune with the momentum of the show,
00:06:05on our own show like this, anything that is slightly different,
00:06:08it feels like something's wrong.
00:06:10It's like all the air is leaking out.
00:06:12So it's a really weird thing.
00:06:13It's a, and it's occasionally happens in stadium shows,
00:06:16but Chris is really good at, he's very sensitive to those moments
00:06:19where he knows that, okay, we need to crank it up.
00:06:22Oh, he's one of the best.
00:06:23He's one of the best.
00:06:24He feels, I can tell, he's really searching for the feeling
00:06:27at every little part of the stadium and where he needs to just,
00:06:30to your point, change the frequency of it so much.
00:06:32He's really the interface, obviously, between all of us.
00:06:35It, you know, it, we have ways of communicating
00:06:39and ways of looking after each other.
00:06:40But we're all quite good at that now, you know, checking in.
00:06:43Are you all right?
00:06:44Yeah, I'd imagine so.
00:06:45Because as we leave the B stage, I mean,
00:06:46this is probably the closest you get to going back
00:06:48to what it was in the beginning,
00:06:49which is that sense of being around each other in a room.
00:06:51Yeah.
00:06:52And playing, it must be really nice when you get out there
00:06:53and are able to play together and see each other like that,
00:06:56and it's not all just facing one way.
00:06:58Yeah.
00:06:59Yeah, it is nice.
00:07:00The B stage, I think, is maybe the closest to what, you know,
00:07:03the one right at the back where it's all acoustic instruments as well.
00:07:05It's the bedroom moment.
00:07:06Yeah, it's the living room.
00:07:07So it's like, yeah, it's like being back in Johnny's bedroom in 98.
00:07:11God, it always blows my mind when you come up on here.
00:07:14And I don't want you to take this the wrong way, but it feels smaller.
00:07:17Yeah, but it does.
00:07:18It feels more intimate than you see.
00:07:19Yeah.
00:07:20I think it's deliberate.
00:07:21Yeah, it just allows the energy to stay centered
00:07:24if you have quite a compact four in the middle.
00:07:27And that's when the best bits of the show are, I think,
00:07:30is when we're all quite close together.
00:07:32We're really proud of the fact that it's still going
00:07:35and the fact that people are still wanting to come.
00:07:37I think credit to Phil and really to Chris as well,
00:07:41who's been very adamant from the very beginning
00:07:43that we have a really democratic ticket pricing system as well.
00:07:49Yeah.
00:07:50Because, you know, you want those people to be able to afford to come.
00:07:55And the kids, you know, who are going to be people
00:07:58who hopefully will keep listening to our music.
00:08:00Yeah.
00:08:01We don't want them to be priced out, you know.
00:08:03The fact that when you walk into this room,
00:08:05if you care about this kind of thing, and we all should,
00:08:07and hopefully over time we will, and I think inevitably we all will have to.
00:08:10Yeah.
00:08:11You're creating an efficiency space,
00:08:13a place where you feel like you're actually part of an experience
00:08:16which isn't taking as much as we take on in everyday life.
00:08:20Mm-hmm.
00:08:21I really want to give you your flowers for that
00:08:22because everyone knows Coldplay cares about the environment
00:08:24and you tour sustainably,
00:08:25but I don't think a lot of people understand the lengths
00:08:27to which you've gone and how it's in every nuance of the show.
00:08:30Yeah.
00:08:31It's not just the bikes and it's not just the air travel.
00:08:33No.
00:08:34But it's right down to the reusable materials too.
00:08:36Yeah.
00:08:37And also the fact that, you know,
00:08:38the kind of food you're putting on in catering
00:08:39and the fact that you're giving surplus food to food banks locally,
00:08:42this stuff should be talked about because it's really, really motivating
00:08:45and I think very inspiring.
00:08:47I think it's, we had the sort of, the lull of COVID
00:08:51and that allowed us a lot of time to really investigate deeply
00:08:54into some of the things that we could be doing
00:08:57and partner with really interesting people
00:08:59and kind of be open to suggestions.
00:09:01And I think what we came up with is the idea that we did,
00:09:05there wasn't one big thing that got us into this position
00:09:09in the first place.
00:09:11It was a series of decisions and choices that get made
00:09:14that accumulate into something catastrophic.
00:09:16And so in the same way, we thought, okay, let's,
00:09:18rather than trying to do enormous big ticket items,
00:09:22of which there are a few that make a massive difference,
00:09:24but really it's about putting every decision through that filter
00:09:28of like, okay, literally every single facet of the tour
00:09:32goes through that, another layer of decision making.
00:09:34Can we do this better?
00:09:35Can we do it more sustainably?
00:09:36Can we do it greener?
00:09:37Can we do it actually?
00:09:38Can we do it?
00:09:39So it's beneficial, you know, how are we making those decisions
00:09:41and can we make them better?
00:09:42And so it is, it is every, it's pretty much everything
00:09:45from the, you know, the cups we use to the,
00:09:47we've got this new thing.
00:09:48I don't think, I'm not sure whether they're on at the moment,
00:09:50but the black drakes that go around the back of the,
00:09:53behind the stage are, um, solar.
00:09:56They're basically solar material.
00:09:58So they are.
00:09:59Powering stuff.
00:10:00I'm afraid.
00:10:01Not doing too much in Dublin.
00:10:02Probably not today.
00:10:03But yeah, it's, they basically, because they sit there,
00:10:06especially if we're playing in, in hot places for, for, you know,
00:10:09five or six shows residency, they sit there soaking up.
00:10:12You can either take just classic black drake material,
00:10:15or you can, we can invest in this technology.
00:10:18Incredible.
00:10:19And make it work for us.
00:10:21And I think we all have different skill sets.
00:10:23And Guy is amazingly, he, he's just what, he's the engineer.
00:10:26He's the, he's got that technical brain.
00:10:28Johnny is our scientist.
00:10:30He was like, he's a mathematician and, and scientist.
00:10:34And Chris has these extraordinary big ideas.
00:10:37And, and Guy is the one who thinks, well, okay, well,
00:10:39how do we actually do that?
00:10:40And how about let's talk to these people?
00:10:42And so it's, it's been a really amazing exercise and a really fun,
00:10:46fun thing to do because we don't want to make it exclusive to us.
00:10:50It's completely open source.
00:10:52It's inspiring.
00:10:53Take it, run with it and do something better.
00:10:55You know, this year we've managed to do reduce our footprint by 59%.
00:10:59So we, the last year was 50 from the last store.
00:11:02Now we're, we're getting closer to 65.
00:11:04So, you know, it's incremental, but we're very clear with the fact that it's not all done.
00:11:09There's a long way to go.
00:11:10Clearly it's a, it's an ongoing process.
00:11:13Um, but we want to keep going just about being, being honest and open and saying,
00:11:16yeah, we're not quite there yet.
00:11:17Here's what we've done.
00:11:18Tell us how we can do better.
00:11:25It's quite far away, isn't it?
00:11:27It's hard for me not to think about those very first moments, you know,
00:11:30and you probably, I don't know if you ever afford yourself that.
00:11:32We all keep moving forward in life.
00:11:34But I think about the ships pushing empire and the lamp on the piano or whatever it was,
00:11:38you know what I mean?
00:11:39Like where it all began.
00:11:40It's kind of crazy.
00:11:41Yeah, it is crazy.
00:11:42I don't, I don't think we've spent very much time looking back.
00:11:46I think certainly I feel I'm getting to a point where I'm happier to look back and reflect,
00:11:53um, more than I've ever been before.
00:11:57But I think up until now, it's been very much just what's the next thing?
00:12:00100 miles an hour in one direction forwards.
00:12:03Does it help that you do a tour for two and a half years?
00:12:07Does it slow things down in a strange way?
00:12:09Even though there's momentum and you're constantly got a new leg being put on.
00:12:13But in a way, it's like four days here, five days there.
00:12:16Does it?
00:12:17Yeah, I suppose so.
00:12:18It seems slower than we've previously done.
00:12:19But tours work a bit like school years.
00:12:21You know, when you're a kid and all of your life is sort of like,
00:12:24this happened in this year of my life.
00:12:26Yeah.
00:12:27Well, for us now, it's like this happened in this tour.
00:12:30A lot.
00:12:31Yes.
00:12:32It turns out.
00:12:33Happens in two and a half years.
00:12:34Yeah.
00:12:35It is the kind of tour that I think when you start out in a bedroom,
00:12:37you wouldn't even allow yourself the ability to dream of doing a tour like this
00:12:40because it seems completely unusual.
00:12:42It's what the Rolling Stones do.
00:12:43I mean, it is at that level where you, you know,
00:12:45you're playing stadiums and you're touring for two and a half years
00:12:48and the scale of it is just gigantic.
00:12:49I was joking with Will about it.
00:12:50I think I, I think I kept you at 9.5 and he corrected me and said,
00:12:53no, we're over 10 million now.
00:12:56In terms of tickets sold.
00:12:58It is something to be proud of.
00:12:59It is.
00:13:00Well, I think we're sort of breaking new territory for us.
00:13:03I think the biggest tour we ever did before this was the Viva La Vida tour
00:13:06in terms of the number of shows, which was about 170, I think.
00:13:10So we're almost at that number now with no particular end in sight.
00:13:14We're really enjoying it.
00:13:16Yeah, it's weird.
00:13:17Two and a half years in and we're still loving it.
00:13:20Still loving it.
00:13:21But it's taken us, I think it's taken us this long to figure out how to pace it
00:13:25and how to balance it because we've certainly done some tours in the past
00:13:30which have kind of almost killed us and certainly made me never want to tour ever again.
00:13:37Yeah, we certainly think about like our third album tour and stuff as brutal, wasn't it?
00:13:42So what's changed?
00:13:43Not to take you back through the pain of that.
00:13:44Let's go through the pain of that.
00:13:46Look, we're here and like I said, this is a very healthy environment and people come here to celebrate
00:13:52and we know that tonight will be an absolute release and a joyful experience, emotional experience.
00:13:57So how did you find that balance?
00:13:59What is different between now and then apart from youth versus experience?
00:14:03We certainly look after ourselves better.
00:14:06Yeah.
00:14:07You know, touring in your 20s, you know, you're sort of young and excited.
00:14:10It's all there for you.
00:14:11And you know, you go out after the show late.
00:14:16Yeah.
00:14:17Yeah.
00:14:18But now I think it's, you know, being a little bit older and you just have to almost treat yourself more like an athlete in terms of how you look after your body and mind.
00:14:29Yeah.
00:14:30And so I think we've all gotten better at doing that.
00:14:33But then also just the pacing, you know, knowing how many shows we can do a year is really crucial for us as well.
00:14:40And also how many we can do in a week.
00:14:42In a week.
00:14:43You know, we used to do five or six.
00:14:45Yeah.
00:14:46Definitely no more than four.
00:14:47Yeah.
00:14:48Well, it makes sense because there's a huge amount of ground to cover and there's a lot of music to share and there's a lot of energy coming your way as well.
00:14:54I always think about the transferal of energy.
00:14:56We're not just screaming and clapping and sending it somewhere else.
00:14:58It's going really toward you and you're giving us this music in return.
00:15:01And I wonder what your relationship like with that is, Johnny, you know, in terms of how you sort of come down from that or how you translate that relationship with us as fans.
00:15:09Well, I think as we've all gotten older, we've stopped treating it as being about us.
00:15:14And so it becomes a lot, actually a lot easier to deal with because really it's just about the people who are here.
00:15:21And then we stop worrying about it being a show about people watching what we're doing or, you know, it's just about, in fact, just a way to sort of get people together.
00:15:30Well, we're saying that too.
00:15:31Enjoy music.
00:15:32He was saying it's sort of like less pressure on like the goods and the bads and stuff.
00:15:35And, you know, the mistakes get made and you're just able to giggle about them and laugh about them.
00:15:39You know, like if someone goes on to play like feels like I'm falling in love and their guitar is not turned on and they reach out to try to turn on.
00:15:44And when they do, they hit the wrong note.
00:15:46I don't know who you're talking about.
00:15:48I had another one last night.
00:15:51I had another one last night because we missed the soundcheck because our plane was late.
00:15:55And we were doing a song with a band called Aslan.
00:15:59And I've been practicing their song, you know, in its original key.
00:16:05Yeah.
00:16:06But no one told me that they weren't playing it in the original key.
00:16:09Live.
00:16:10So I came in with a big power chord.
00:16:12Why is it always the big power chords too?
00:16:14Why isn't it just something gentle like a strum that you can adjust in real time?
00:16:18Why has it got to be the big power chord, right?
00:16:20Then I was like, oh, that sounds weird.
00:16:24And I sort of looked around and everyone else looked like they were playing the same chord as me.
00:16:29So I was like, well, I'm going to go for the next one.
00:16:33Double down.
00:16:34Double down.
00:16:35So I hit the next one.
00:16:36I was like, oh, no, that's still wrong.
00:16:38Maybe my guitar.
00:16:39So then I was like, oh, it's better tune with guitar.
00:16:41So we all have shrinks, isn't it?
00:16:42Who dropped a whole tune?
00:16:44Because I'm still looking around at everyone.
00:16:46It's like, that guy's definitely playing a D.
00:16:48Right.
00:16:49There's no question.
00:16:50But then it turns out they'd all detuned their guitars.
00:16:54Can you imagine if you'd done that like 15 years ago, man?
00:16:56I mean, you know, I don't know how you would have felt.
00:16:58Maybe you would have laughed about it then too and still, but I mean, it's, it's, you just.
00:17:01I'd have, I'd have crawled into my room for a month, I think.
00:17:04Just going back to day one of the band.
00:17:06I think the thing that surprised me the most was when I met Chris, it was like, oh, wow.
00:17:10Here's somebody who's not only prepared to kind of, you know, write words, write lyrics.
00:17:16And, you know, somebody who's actually prepared to sing in a microphone in front of people.
00:17:21That was like this kind of like, oh, well, maybe we could actually make a band then because you need that.
00:17:25You kind of need that.
00:17:27I think it takes a certain kind of person to, well, first of all, to want to be a singer.
00:17:32And second of all, to actually stand, you know, in front of a hundred people, a thousand people, 80,000 people.
00:17:40And, and, and to be comfortable being the center of attention.
00:17:43And when I stand on the stage and look around, you know, the audience heads, it's like, it's like sunflowers.
00:17:50They follow the sun, right?
00:17:51You know, anywhere you Chris goes on the stage, that's where the audience will be looking.
00:17:55So you very quickly realize that, you know, you're standing there and nobody's looking at you, which I'm quite comfortable with, by the way.
00:18:03But I suppose, I just don't know if I'm comfortable in the sense, knowing that people aren't looking at me all the time.
00:18:11I would be really uncomfortable if it wasn't the case.
00:18:14But I think, you know, obviously being in Chris, Chris's position, you have to accept that you are the focus of attention.
00:18:20You know, I think some people shroud away in that or it becomes a difficult relationship.
00:18:24I feel like he gets through it by just giving.
00:18:27I mean, he really puts himself out there.
00:18:29I mean, it's crazy.
00:18:31I mean, I can't imagine anything worse than trying to come up with a song about people.
00:18:36Yeah.
00:18:37While, you know, while live in front of 80,000 people.
00:18:41Chris has always been able to make things up just on the spot like that.
00:18:44And I think what's so cool about that Jumbotron section is I'm not sure there's anyone else that could do that.
00:18:49I mean, I love the way you're changing up the setlist all the time as well.
00:18:52It feels to me like there's some fluidity in that, which is cool.
00:18:54I mean, most bands who perform in this kind of environmental artists, there's so much production around it, you've got to kind of stick to your beats.
00:19:00Yeah, I mean, there's an element of that, you know.
00:19:03We sort of have a structure that we can hopefully play a little bit around with.
00:19:08Yeah.
00:19:09But it's still a structure.
00:19:10Yeah.
00:19:11Yeah.
00:19:12So you've got other things.
00:19:13So it's modular.
00:19:14You can put things in and put things out and stuff.
00:19:15Yeah.
00:19:16Yeah.
00:19:17I think that's a nice way of putting it.
00:19:18But I think we also realize, you know, sometimes we get into the mindset, you know, after 170 shows or whatever.
00:19:23You know, we start thinking about changing the set and moving things around and coming up with a different set.
00:19:28But actually, you have to remember that, you know, every time we go to a new place, there's probably, you know, 98% of people there haven't seen the show yet.
00:19:36Yeah.
00:19:37And I think what we've got to be careful of doing is not kind of changing the show up just for the sake of change.
00:19:44For us, you know.
00:19:45To keep it interesting for you.
00:19:46But, yeah.
00:19:47But the thing is, the funny thing is, actually, because we're, all of us get bored quite easily with old stuff.
00:19:52Yeah.
00:19:53And we just want to move on and do new stuff all the time.
00:19:55And, but actually with this, we're, we're still okay.
00:19:58You know, it still feels good.
00:20:00Well, you have a new album, you know, this beautiful album.
00:20:02And Moon Music, congratulations.
00:20:03I mean, you know, continuing to not just perform at the highest level, but record at the highest level.
00:20:07And to have made maybe one of your most complete bodies of work in terms of all the sides of Coldplay and then call time on a tour wouldn't make much sense.
00:20:13In a strange way.
00:20:14Right?
00:20:15Yeah.
00:20:16I think, you know, Moon Music was always supposed to be kind of the second part of music of the spheres.
00:20:24And I think there was always a plan.
00:20:27I think there was always a plan to keep the tour going and have this new album come out.
00:20:31But I think I quite like this way of working where you don't have to kind of attach albums to tours and they don't have to be these kind of things that start and stop.
00:20:41You know, it's quite, it's quite nice having the fluidity of, of what we're doing.
00:20:45And also just, you know, setting up a tour.
00:20:48It's such a huge operation to build up a tour and get it on the road.
00:20:51Like everyday life kind of broke that spell a little bit.
00:20:54There were probably lots of reasons why that wasn't such a tour, but that was probably the first time, right?
00:20:58Where you put something out and just let it sit on its own.
00:21:00Maybe ghost stories.
00:21:01Ghost stories.
00:21:02Yeah.
00:21:03But yeah, yeah.
00:21:04Like I was saying, you know, this tour's took two or more years to plan.
00:21:08Yeah.
00:21:09So the idea of starting another one is, it seems dreadful.
00:21:13I got to ask you, you know, as a friend of Chris's, you know, there's something about mortality, which seems to really excite him, especially when he's about to release a record with you guys.
00:21:21He's always talks about mortality, not from a personal point of view, but from a sort of artistic point of view, like, oh, you know, this might be the last one.
00:21:27And I sort of wonder if he just become to accept that or if you're all aligned with that kind of thinking that it's okay to see an end in sight, even if it doesn't, if you're not true to that and you carry on, what is the end of something?
00:21:39I think it's, well, I think it's good to have a plan.
00:21:42It's always good to have a plan.
00:21:43It's good to have a framework to work into, but I think it's also, it's a management tool.
00:21:48You know, I think particularly for Chris, who's working, you know, 24-7, I think it's certainly good for him to have in his mind some kind of end goal to help, you know, to help him through that just personality that he is, who's always working.
00:22:04I think if you're, you know, if you're a marathon runner and you were told, right, go and run and run and run and run, but we're not going to tell you where the end is.
00:22:13Beautiful analogy, by the way. It's a very dark and very succinct analogy there. I'm right there with him now.
00:22:21Well, yeah, for us as well, though, it's important, I think, because you always have to think, well, if this was the last one, would I be happy?
00:22:30Right.
00:22:31You know, it's not like there's no, there's not another chance.
00:22:35Yeah.
00:22:36You know what I mean?
00:22:37Yeah.
00:22:38Because there might not be, ever, you know, you never know.
00:22:39You never know.
00:22:40We have tonight.
00:22:41Come rain or shine.
00:22:42Rain or shine.
00:22:43Rain or shine.
00:22:44I think it's going to shine.
00:22:45Yeah, I'm not so sure about that guy.
00:22:48What I am certain about as I walked around this empty venue hours before it filled to capacity was that Coldplay are the show that people need to see right now.
00:22:57It's a concert.
00:22:58It's church.
00:22:59It's a spiritual awakening.
00:23:00It's an environment so fulfilling and uplifting.
00:23:03It reminds you that when we all come together, despite our differences, we actually have a lot more in common than we think.
00:23:08That's what Coldplay do best, is remind us of that.
00:23:11So here it goes.
00:23:12Still don't wanna see a thing.
00:23:15Let it rain, let it rain, let it rain.
00:23:19I'll be back on my feet again.
00:23:23Cause I am a mountain.
00:23:24Look at the beautiful sky coming.
00:23:26Do you wanna sit on that pile of rocks there?
00:23:30Can they film from the...
00:23:31Yeah, we can make anything with it, I'm sure.
00:23:32Oh, that'll be great.
00:23:33Yeah.
00:23:34Alright, be careful here, man.
00:23:35I'm gonna go up the cross.
00:23:36Look at this.
00:23:37Perfect.
00:23:38Well, look at the beautiful sky come in.
00:23:43Do you want to sit on that pile of rocks there?
00:23:47Can they film from the...
00:23:48Yeah, we can make anything with it, I'm sure.
00:23:50That'd be great.
00:23:51Yeah.
00:23:53Alright, be careful here, man.
00:23:55We'll go up the cross.
00:23:58Look at this, perfect.
00:24:01This is our spot.
00:24:04I feel like this is important to you,
00:24:06just doing this kind of thing,
00:24:08being barefoot wherever you are in the world.
00:24:10Yeah.
00:24:11Do you know what I mean?
00:24:12Yeah, it's very important,
00:24:13and it's really getting the sea as much as possible too,
00:24:18because it offsets the playing stadium-ness,
00:24:22which is, I love it so much,
00:24:24but when you get in the water,
00:24:27it reminds you to be humble,
00:24:29because you're just tiny again.
00:24:31If you're by the ocean, it's such a must.
00:24:34I'm trying to think of some of the most beautiful places
00:24:36you must have been swimming on this tour,
00:24:38because you've been to some incredible places.
00:24:40Yeah.
00:24:41Yeah.
00:24:42This last leg I swam in Germany,
00:24:45Ireland.
00:24:46Yeah.
00:24:47Greece.
00:24:48Austria.
00:24:49Finland.
00:24:50Amazing.
00:24:53Italy, maybe?
00:24:54Spain.
00:24:55Yeah.
00:24:56But it's also, if you believe in this kind of thing,
00:24:58it's nice to ground yourself,
00:25:00especially if you're on planes a lot.
00:25:02I don't know, it just feels nice too.
00:25:05Yeah, it does.
00:25:07It actually does.
00:25:08I mean, it's kind of strange as it was to climb out on rocks
00:25:10and chucked hands.
00:25:12Look, you kept everything so clean.
00:25:13I know.
00:25:14I'm proud of that.
00:25:15You got that rip in your trousers,
00:25:16but I'll get that paid for.
00:25:17It's purposeful.
00:25:18Oh, okay.
00:25:19It's purposeful by design.
00:25:20Yeah, man, last night was so special.
00:25:24It was such a moment to see what we talked about
00:25:28two and a half years ago when we did our conversation
00:25:32around high power.
00:25:33Yeah.
00:25:34And you laid it all out.
00:25:35You were like, I think we're going to do a tour like this.
00:25:37Right.
00:25:38And you showed me the images of it.
00:25:39And it looked incredible on paper.
00:25:40Obviously, it looks a million times better in real life.
00:25:43You know, how has it been just seeing that come to life,
00:25:46you know, from a piece of paper and an idea and a concept?
00:25:48Because I know that you're conceptual.
00:25:50You really love to create things.
00:25:51Yeah.
00:25:52To see something of that scale reach 82,000 people last night,
00:25:55you know, must have been amazing.
00:25:56Well, that's the thing,
00:25:57the thing that's missing with any concept drawing
00:25:59is all the people there.
00:26:01And so all of the design and everything is really just
00:26:03trying to make it more easy for people to let go
00:26:09and feel good and feel good together.
00:26:12I feel like that's a pretty important transition
00:26:14for performers to make.
00:26:15I'm not sure whether it's experience or wisdom
00:26:17or maybe success, I know that's a strange word,
00:26:19but whatever allows you to be able to just let the people
00:26:23have their moment and not necessarily put so much pressure
00:26:26on yourself.
00:26:27I talked to the guys about this yesterday.
00:26:28Yeah.
00:26:29And they said that they agreed,
00:26:30that they felt a little less personal pressure.
00:26:32Mistakes are okay,
00:26:33because the people there are just kind of having
00:26:35their own experience.
00:26:36Definitely.
00:26:37I think when you're starting as an artist or as a band or whatever,
00:26:41it is more about you.
00:26:43You're trying to make it and you're trying to prove something
00:26:45to yourself and to your detractors or whatever it is.
00:26:48Yeah.
00:26:49Then you're trying to stay there.
00:26:50Then it comes to a point where without really realizing it,
00:26:53you are only doing it because you love it and you want to give
00:26:58people a good time who like that kind of thing.
00:27:00Yeah.
00:27:01And even the people that don't like it,
00:27:03that stress has fallen away because they don't have to come.
00:27:06Yeah.
00:27:07And so it's sort of flipped that it used to be all about us
00:27:11and now it's not about us at all.
00:27:13Yeah.
00:27:14We're just there to facilitate a gathering really.
00:27:15It really felt that way last night.
00:27:17It felt not that you don't take it very seriously
00:27:19and you want to put on your best,
00:27:20but that you had let go of a certain amount of that,
00:27:23for lack of a better term, kind of ego that comes with stepping on a stage.
00:27:27It's still there.
00:27:28It's still under there a bit,
00:27:30but it's fueling the bigger priority.
00:27:34Whereas maybe before the audience was helping to boost your ego
00:27:38so you keep going.
00:27:39Yeah.
00:27:40Now your ego is serving that.
00:27:42Yeah.
00:27:43On a good day.
00:27:44A shift in confidence.
00:27:45But I still have real,
00:27:46two nights ago I had a real confidence crash on stage,
00:27:50but you can't let anybody see that.
00:27:52So it's always humbling.
00:27:54Do the boys know, do you think?
00:27:56I think they do from what they said yesterday.
00:27:59They can tell when you're really in the zone
00:28:00and when you might need a little bit of a pickup.
00:28:02It's funny because Will, who looks so stern all the time,
00:28:05who's so sweet,
00:28:07he's the person I go to if I'm worried.
00:28:09I think I lost the crowd or that was a terrible improvisation
00:28:13or whatever it is.
00:28:15And if he goes,
00:28:17that's all I need.
00:28:19As you were describing the members of the band once,
00:28:21every one of them was a different version of the same thing,
00:28:25which is like this handbrake,
00:28:26this great sort of voice of reason,
00:28:29this will being this kind of foundational aspect of it.
00:28:32Yeah, very much so.
00:28:33But then obviously you've got Johnny who also has an opinion
00:28:37and is very quick to say,
00:28:38I'm not so sure.
00:28:39Maybe the first I think was ways,
00:28:40the first person.
00:28:41And then you've got Guy who's like,
00:28:42if he doesn't like a song,
00:28:43don't ever even bring it up again.
00:28:44Never.
00:28:45It's not really bad for you because I'm like,
00:28:46you've just got three of your best friends,
00:28:48who importantly all play a version of the same role.
00:28:51And how that dynamic has kind of helped you over the course of your life
00:28:56as an unbridled creative and someone who has big ideas
00:28:59and probably wants to achieve things that most people seem unthinkable.
00:29:03Yeah, that is so important for them.
00:29:06And then also the parts they bring to each song.
00:29:09Of course.
00:29:10We'll get to that when we get to the album, but yeah.
00:29:12But that balance of a band is so important.
00:29:16And you have to have a few people wanting to go 24-7
00:29:20and then you have to have the ones who are like,
00:29:22okay, wait, have we got the right footwear?
00:29:25Yeah.
00:29:26It used to be annoying, but now I'm so grateful for it.
00:29:29Now I feel like, well, if it's been through that system of checks and balances,
00:29:36then once it's ready for the outside world, I have full confidence in it.
00:29:40And so whatever comes at it, I just have to say,
00:29:42okay, well, that's the best we can do.
00:29:45And it's been through all the checks and balances.
00:29:47When you refer to 24-7, I know you're referring to yourself
00:29:50because Will used the same term yesterday.
00:29:52We were talking about how they sort of approach the friendship side of things
00:29:56and make sure that through all the touring and the recording
00:29:58and the work that goes into making your best work, best music,
00:30:03that there's ways that they can support you.
00:30:05And Will made that observation.
00:30:07He said it's 24-7 for you.
00:30:09Do you recognize that?
00:30:10That it's an obsession of some sorts?
00:30:12Oh, for sure.
00:30:13But I know that I'm not the only person, to paraphrase Sam Smith,
00:30:17I know I'm not the only one.
00:30:19It's normal for me.
00:30:23And I would be so sad if it wasn't 24-7.
00:30:26Is that to some degree why there's always a sense of mortality with every project?
00:30:30There's an idea that the plan will end at some point.
00:30:34Yeah.
00:30:35It allows you a chance to actually acknowledge that this is the best I could have done in the moment.
00:30:39And if I pluck up the energy to go again, I will.
00:30:42But right now this is enough.
00:30:45Uh, yes.
00:30:47But we're only going to do 12 proper albums and that's real.
00:30:51That's real, real?
00:30:52Yeah, promise, promise.
00:30:53I don't want you to promise that.
00:30:54I want 50 albums.
00:30:55Yeah, no, but it's good.
00:30:56No, you don't.
00:30:57You don't.
00:30:58Because less is more.
00:30:59And for some of our critics, even less would be even more.
00:31:02You still read those guys?
00:31:04No, I don't read that one.
00:31:05I'm joking.
00:31:06Yeah.
00:31:07We don't, that's just, and I'll tell you why it's really important that we have that limit.
00:31:11First of all, there's only 12, or there's only 8 Harry Potters or 7 Harry Potters.
00:31:15There's only 12 and a half Beatles albums.
00:31:18There's only enough, about the same Bob Marley.
00:31:21So all of our heroes, and also having that limit means that the quality control is so high right now.
00:31:28And for a song to make it, it has, it's almost impossible, which is great.
00:31:34And so, where we could be kind of coasting, we're trying to improve.
00:31:40The only part of it that I have to get my head around as a fan of music is that there's something about the creation which is personally fulfilling that ultimately leads to a place of legacy.
00:31:53And it feels to me like you recognize the importance of the legacy of quality, but it might deny you the joy of making something on a personal fulfillment level.
00:32:02Am I making sense?
00:32:03Yeah, yeah.
00:32:04Well, the joy of making something, that's funny.
00:32:05I was thinking about that this morning.
00:32:06That will always continue in some way, but there's something about the Coldplay thing.
00:32:12It just, that's just what, I don't know where the songs come from.
00:32:15I don't know where the ideas come from, but that's just been coming to me for about four or five years now.
00:32:21But you have to finish like this.
00:32:23Yeah.
00:32:24And I trust that.
00:32:25Just like I trust the song.
00:32:26So, if we do something together after that, creatively, beyond touring, then it will be something different.
00:32:31Or it'll be a side thing, or it'll be a compilation of things we hadn't finished.
00:32:36It's still creative.
00:32:37It just doesn't have to be in there.
00:32:38Oh, so much, yeah.
00:32:39I think I make an album great as a band.
00:32:42It's such a lot of wrangling of people.
00:32:45And I want to give the others some of their life for themselves.
00:32:50Otherwise, I don't want to be, when we're 60, like, Will, I need you.
00:32:53Come on, guys, let's keep going.
00:32:54Let's keep on going.
00:32:55Let's do better than that.
00:32:56They seem happy right now.
00:32:57I mean, after two and a half years of touring, I don't think in my lifetime I've ever seen a band skip on stage and still have the joy.
00:33:04Oh, I think we've got more than ever because of all the reasons.
00:33:08Because of getting older, because of COVID, because of everything going on in the world,
00:33:11because of how lucky we know we are, because of the places we get to go,
00:33:14because of the optimism that it gives us to see all different kinds of people gathering together,
00:33:19because of songs that arrive from nowhere, because we go at a slower pace.
00:33:23All these things mean that we're just, we love it.
00:33:27I think about everyday life.
00:33:28It's an interesting listen that for me now because it's grown on me so, so much.
00:33:33I liked it the first time I heard it, but you didn't tour it as much.
00:33:36And it just felt like one of those records that was going to serve its purpose.
00:33:39And that purpose would reveal itself to me.
00:33:41Right.
00:33:42And so how it's revealed itself to me is that it kind of grounded you in the reality of what life actually is.
00:33:48Right.
00:33:49It's a pretty direct record.
00:33:50Yeah, very, yeah.
00:33:51There's songs on there.
00:33:52I mean, as political as you've ever gotten.
00:33:55Yeah, very.
00:33:56You know, very, very connecting with faith in a very direct way.
00:33:59No more mystery and magic wrapped up in the sentiment.
00:34:02It's like, this is exactly how I feel.
00:34:04And I love it.
00:34:05But it felt to me like it opened up the door for you to actually go into the spheres.
00:34:09And it kind of opened up the magic a little bit.
00:34:12You're very good, Jay.
00:34:13I've got to tell you.
00:34:14Not to sound like a rom-com, but sometimes you know me better.
00:34:17Would you say that to all the interviewers?
00:34:19Better than I know myself.
00:34:20Look at us on this rock in the ocean.
00:34:22It's like love actually.
00:34:24It's very sweet.
00:34:25That's really true.
00:34:27Yes.
00:34:28So everyday life was sort of an acknowledgement of like, we see what's happening everywhere.
00:34:33It's a struggle.
00:34:35Life is a struggle for most people, all people at some time.
00:34:39So it was important to acknowledge that before going into the, and our response to that is,
00:34:45well, we have to try and turn to love as much as possible.
00:34:49What's possible.
00:34:50Yeah.
00:34:51Because aggression doesn't seem to work.
00:34:54Separation doesn't seem to work.
00:34:56Vilification doesn't seem to work.
00:34:58Meanness doesn't seem to work.
00:34:59This is for me anyway.
00:35:00Yeah.
00:35:01So everyday is a challenge to try and find a loving path through not necessarily very loving situations,
00:35:10which is really difficult.
00:35:12So I think everyday life was us saying we're not completely head in the clouds.
00:35:17You know, we know, we're aware of when we go into this hippiness.
00:35:22Yeah.
00:35:23It's referring to something that we're aware of.
00:35:25It's not just pie in the sky.
00:35:27It's on the record.
00:35:28We understand the struggle.
00:35:29We know what's going on out here.
00:35:30I mean, I'm not pretending that I understand everyone's struggle, but I understand that people struggle.
00:35:34I see it.
00:35:35Yeah.
00:35:36We all do in our own way.
00:35:37Yeah, yeah.
00:35:38But for me now as a nearly 70 year old, it seems to me like the people who are happiest are the people who acknowledge everything that's going on and then try and find some way to look at it with love basically.
00:35:53Because finger pointing doesn't seem to have worked.
00:35:56Shouting at people doesn't seem to work.
00:35:58Throwing bricks at people doesn't seem to change their minds.
00:36:00Yeah.
00:36:01So, but that's just for us.
00:36:03I feel like everyday life has a companion piece in Ghost Stories because I feel like Ghost Stories was as transformative in a different way.
00:36:13If everyday life got you to see the world differently, Ghost Stories got you to see your life differently.
00:36:19Definitely, yeah.
00:36:20What's nice about life if you keep an open set of ears and eyes, which Brian Eno taught us to do.
00:36:26Yeah.
00:36:27Is that the right teachers show up and the right authors and the right music and the right friends and the right…
00:36:33And if you're inquisitive, you can change your life in amazing ways.
00:36:39And you find people who are thinking in a way that you realise you were feeling that all along but you didn't know how to articulate it.
00:36:46Yeah, never at all.
00:36:47For me that was Rumi or Viktor Frankl or Paolo Neruda or Leonard Cohen or…
00:36:53So, oh those… I see.
00:36:55Okay, now I feel less alone and I feel like someone's articulated this pull I've been feeling.
00:37:03And then you travel as much as we do, which is such a privilege.
00:37:08And in travelling you get to understand more the similarities between all people than the differences.
00:37:15And that you understand that the concept of nations and flags and all that is sort of made up to give people a sense of safety.
00:37:23But really we're all here together, that's the actual truth.
00:37:26And the other… there's a book by Ryzard Krasinski called The Other about how we're often manipulated through fear of the other.
00:37:36And once you realise there is no other, it's an amazingly liberating place.
00:37:40It breaks the spell.
00:37:41Yeah, because then you're like, oh I don't have to be scared of immigrants, whatever people try and make you scared of.
00:37:45And we've seen some of that on this tour actually.
00:37:47Yeah.
00:37:48You don't have to be scared of anybody because they're pretty similar to you.
00:37:54And they're probably going through something that if they're being aggressive towards you, it's probably to do with what they're going through.
00:37:59Yeah, it's a fear-based reaction.
00:38:01And that's an amazingly liberating feeling.
00:38:03When I was walking here to see you again, it was written on the side of the trash can, you can live a life others don't understand.
00:38:09Yeah, I took a photo of that the other day.
00:38:11Yeah.
00:38:12It's okay to live a life other people don't understand.
00:38:14Yeah.
00:38:15Isn't that cool?
00:38:16Because I walked here the other day with Phil twice and I saw that.
00:38:20And I was like, I love that so much.
00:38:21I love that too.
00:38:22Yeah.
00:38:23And I feel that's sort of how we're trying to be as a band these days.
00:38:27It's okay that some people really don't like this or it's not for them right now, but this is really where we're at.
00:38:33And this is really what we feel.
00:38:35And this is really how we, you know, we're the same age now as prime ministers and presidents.
00:38:40And this is what we think and we're happy to say it.
00:38:44There's no other thing to do than just follow your heart, make sure you're 100% behind what you're doing.
00:38:49And then beyond that, it's a beautiful thing that people are able to say they like it or don't like it or ignore it.
00:38:54Yeah.
00:38:55That's what art is for.
00:38:57And I know that lots of people will hate anything we do, but I'm totally okay with it because I love it and I'm fully into it.
00:39:05And I've worked so many hours and days and weeks to make sure that I'm 100% behind it.
00:39:14So if it's not for you, then God bless you.
00:39:17That's okay.
00:39:18Yeah.
00:39:19What's funny about our quote unquote hits is most of them weren't hits at the moment they came out.
00:39:25So we don't really have hits in the way that everyone else has hits.
00:39:32I'm trying to call foul and I can't.
00:39:34I think you're actually right.
00:39:35I think there are songs that come out that they're sticky and they just hang around.
00:39:39And I mean like even a song like My Universe, which obviously on paper with BTS is going to be a massive hit, right?
00:39:45But I think watching it last night in that environment, in that stadium, it was like one of the biggest songs you've ever done.
00:39:53Right, but it was a hit for a minute because of Army.
00:39:56Yeah.
00:39:57Respect.
00:39:58Respect.
00:39:59They made it a hit in the first week, then it disappeared again.
00:40:01Yeah.
00:40:02And then all the people that were like, I hate Coldplay, they always check, you know, they change too much, whatever.
00:40:08But I was just like, well, I know that that song fell through in such a natural way on top of a beat that Bill Rocco, one of our producers made.
00:40:15I know that it came through really purely, so I just got to trust the song.
00:40:20And so for the first few shows in certain countries, that song wasn't really, and now it's accepted by our audience.
00:40:30And not by all of them.
00:40:31Yeah.
00:40:32But again, you can't, or a song called A Sky Full of Stars.
00:40:37Wow, last night.
00:40:38It was sort of a joke when we released it to some people and now it's become.
00:40:42I don't know.
00:40:43I think that's one that, to me that was a moment in the show last night and has been a moment in your collection of songs
00:40:49that is very powerful for lots of reasons.
00:40:52But yeah, I was thinking about Sky Full of Stars last night and I was, and I, whenever I hear that song,
00:40:56especially when you perform it live, I think about Tim, I think about Avicii and I think about how amazing he, you know,
00:41:01he was as an artist and, and just how gifted he was.
00:41:06And delicate. He was very delicate.
00:41:08Well, I want to talk about the vulnerability of being an artist a little bit.
00:41:10And I, and I, and I know you can't speak for every artist, but you are one.
00:41:14And I think we have to handle with care, the arts and the artists.
00:41:18And sometimes we, we miss that point.
00:41:21Well, I think we have to handle everyone with care first and foremost.
00:41:25Yeah.
00:41:26Secondly, artists, particularly when they're on their own, it's a delicate thing, especially now with social media.
00:41:33And it's, it's, it's relentless and it's extremely stressful for a young artist.
00:41:41So if someone like Tim, who, who was at the beginning of the real social media craziness and he was doing four gigs a day,
00:41:48something, you know, it was just, there was nobody to say, there was no will.
00:41:53He didn't have a will to say, hey, awesome. Let's rest for a minute.
00:41:59Or let's not do seven singles this week. Let's do one.
00:42:03Yeah.
00:42:04You need that. Or you too have Larry, who's like that, who just, they're like, okay, cool.
00:42:09They're the, they're the person holding the kite.
00:42:11Yeah.
00:42:12What makes me so happy about Billie Eilish, for example, is that Billie Eilish is really a band, isn't it?
00:42:17The two of them, and then the further band of their family.
00:42:19Family, yeah.
00:42:20So you feel with her that she's protected and, and she's so brilliant.
00:42:25But her and Phineas are such a band that I feel like, well, she'll be okay.
00:42:29The music industry is always in a state of flux.
00:42:32Yeah.
00:42:33And there's a certain thought that really because of AI and because of viral hits,
00:42:38that that's the only way it will end up with just that.
00:42:41Yeah.
00:42:42But conversely, this year you have Chapel Roan, Charlie XCX and Billie Eilish.
00:42:47Yeah.
00:42:48Some of them are on their sort of fourth or fifth project.
00:42:50Working hard.
00:42:51Who have been allowed to develop.
00:42:52And so perhaps it's going to be viral hits and AI, but also there's a place for long-term.
00:42:58Yeah.
00:42:59People that are looked after.
00:43:01Yeah.
00:43:02Because, especially as a fan, then it gives you something to believe in.
00:43:05Or Fontaine's DC or 1975.
00:43:09I still am a fan of bands that I've liked for a while or artists that I've liked for a few years.
00:43:15Where are they going to go?
00:43:16Yeah.
00:43:17As well as being a fan of, oh, this remix from Transylvania has just blown up.
00:43:21It's amazing.
00:43:22Yeah, yeah.
00:43:23So there's room for all of it.
00:43:25Yeah.
00:43:26But the thing you learned from Avicii was you have to, we have to protect all people.
00:43:31We have to protect all people.
00:43:32We have to protect all people.
00:43:33We have to protect all people.
00:43:34This album is such a beautiful Coldplay record.
00:43:37It starts with a title track that is so bittersweet.
00:43:40Right.
00:43:41And I know it's tough to go into nuances of lyrics, but I really want to stay in that song for a second
00:43:46because it asks so many questions of yourself and leaves us in a place where you're asking for help.
00:43:52It's so beautiful.
00:43:53That's how I begin every day, basically.
00:43:55Right.
00:43:56Every day it's like the suit of armor of confidence has evaporated overnight.
00:44:01And I have a certain set of tools and teachers and guides who help me have the right things to pick myself up every day.
00:44:11Yeah.
00:44:12And carry on.
00:44:13So I was, with moon music, I felt like, well, what if I just really told how I feel every day?
00:44:20Yeah.
00:44:21Before I've remembered this phrase or that teaching or done this set of prayers or whatever.
00:44:27It's like, well, most of us every day are like, oh, am I just a terrible loser?
00:44:31Right.
00:44:32Well, even the bit where you acknowledged, I just sit around, watch TV and blame everybody else.
00:44:35Yeah.
00:44:36I mean, look, as the piece of music goes, I think it's a very honest reflection of how we all feel at times,
00:44:41which is, you know, we're just trying to be better.
00:44:43You know?
00:44:44And trying to ask for some help.
00:44:45And we need help.
00:44:46Yeah.
00:44:47You know, we need help at the end of the day.
00:44:48And it's delicate and bittersweet.
00:44:50You talked about We Pray coming to you in the night.
00:44:53You've talked to me many times about how songs, you're a vessel for the music and you don't really know where it comes from.
00:44:58No.
00:44:59Do you dream them?
00:45:00Do they come up in dreams sometimes too?
00:45:01Yes, I do sometimes dream them.
00:45:03Often songs that come in dreams aren't as good as you think they are in the dream.
00:45:06Have any of it come out at all?
00:45:07We Pray, Viva La Vida.
00:45:09Yeah.
00:45:10And then loads that you'll never hear.
00:45:13Yeah.
00:45:14Why don't, because I want to save you the trouble of having to, this album is really, really good.
00:45:20It's sort of our manifesto, or my way of looking at things right now, in terms of how to continue, how to not give up,
00:45:29how to accept reality, not run away from it, not hate anybody, even in the midst of always being filled with so many difficult emotions.
00:45:40So, and it's with Max Martin, so he made sure that it's really good.
00:45:44It sounds like, I mean this is a compliment, it sounds like hard work.
00:45:47That's hard work.
00:45:48It's so fun though, and because we have Max now, for this period, this last four Coldplay albums, he's just the best brother.
00:45:58It's just, it just gives you so much confidence.
00:46:01And I know that if, if a song has passed him and Will and Johnny and Guy and Phil, not to mention other people around me,
00:46:09then like, well I, and if I really still love it, then I feel like, okay, well this can come out.
00:46:14And, as long as the story of the album is cohesive from start to finish, so there's nothing competing with anything else,
00:46:21and everything is part of the journey, then, um, so, so, this is a good one.
00:46:29Oh yeah.
00:46:30But we, we've had a few good ones.
00:46:32So what does moon music mean though, as a title, as a concept?
00:46:34I don't really know where that came from.
00:46:36Yeah.
00:46:37Maybe it's to do with accepting all the different phases, maybe it's to do with shining your light,
00:46:42your light without any need for anything in return.
00:46:44That more applies to the sun.
00:46:46There's a Hafez poem that says, even after all this time, the sun never says to the earth, you owe me.
00:46:52Yeah.
00:46:53Look what happens with a love like that.
00:46:55It lights up the whole sky.
00:46:56Yeah.
00:46:57And sometimes if I'm super depressed, I think about, well the sun is always shining.
00:47:04You just can't see it right now.
00:47:06And sometimes if I'm struggling to find a positive perspective, I think, well the sun…
00:47:12Is there.
00:47:13…always shines no matter what stupid stuff we're doing, so…
00:47:15Yeah.
00:47:16…and the sun shines on whatever's happening equally.
00:47:21This is getting a bit silly, but this is my point about interviews, is that all the things that I really feel,
00:47:26I've tried to put them in the songs, because when I say them out loud I sound like a knob.
00:47:31I don't think so.
00:47:33But it's how I actually feel, that's the problem.
00:47:35I don't think there's a difference between the two.
00:47:37And I don't, I would hate to hear the music and feel some kind of very genuine connection to what it is you're saying,
00:47:43and then talk to you, and you'd be dismissive about what I'm hearing in the records as well, you know, because…
00:47:48It would be more fun to interview if I just slagged other artists off and…
00:47:51Well we tried that.
00:47:52…talked about money.
00:47:53…about 15 years ago, for a brief period of time, I think.
00:47:56I was once mean in an interview in the year 2000.
00:48:01I said something a little bit mean about Bobby Gillespie from Primal Scream, and I still feel…
00:48:05You pick your fights, don't you? Man, I mean, this guy's a pirate.
00:48:08You're fighting him for it.
00:48:09But it was because at that time, a guy called Alan McGee had been a bit mean about Coldplay, and they're really good friends.
00:48:14Yeah.
00:48:15Anyway, I regret that so much. I'm so sorry, Bobby. I love Primal Scream.
00:48:19Yeah.
00:48:20In the interim, I met Alan McGee actually in a park, and we went on this lovely walk, and it was so fun.
00:48:26And you realise at the time that even your critics are doing you a favour.
00:48:32Yeah.
00:48:33And… but anyway, my point is I don't like to say anything mean about anybody.
00:48:37Really, particularly not other artists.
00:48:39I mean, there was one particular relationship which got really testy for a while there, but they had it out for everybody, but…
00:48:44Which one?
00:48:45Oasis, but they had it out for everybody.
00:48:46Oh, you can't take that personally.
00:48:47No, you can't. And now, I mean, they're f***ing… there's these shows. I mean, it's gonna be…
00:48:51But we never, ever responded. You've gotta let people be themselves.
00:48:55Yeah.
00:48:56Yeah.
00:48:57And if we're in someone's joke, that's fine. I'm really happy for them. Very happy for the two of them.
00:49:05Yeah.
00:49:06And I'm happy that… this is gonna sound a bit silly, but… the two of them reuniting gives you more hope…
00:49:13Yeah.
00:49:14…about the Holy Land and about all of the conflicts in the world.
00:49:17Because it's a biblical… it's a biblical…
00:49:19Dude, the reaction…
00:49:20…thing, isn't it?
00:49:21The reaction has been so overwhelming. I think, you know, people are… it's deep for people.
00:49:26It's deep.
00:49:27What would be amazing is if they let Tony McCarroll play drums, but I don't… that's asking for too much.
00:49:32We don't know yet. We don't know who's showing up on the day.
00:49:35Because I'd like to go on record and say, his drumming is amazing.
00:49:40Mm-hmm.
00:49:41And a bit like Ringo had for a while, oh, he's not very good at drums.
00:49:45He's the drummer on, definitely, maybe, so he's doing something right.
00:49:48Yeah, right.
00:49:49And he brings this bagginess…
00:49:50Yeah, there's a feel.
00:49:51…and there's a swing in there that's just amazing.
00:49:53Yeah.
00:49:54Someone said last night, Tony McCarroll had the role as well as the rock,
00:50:00which is what Keith Richards said about Charlie Watts.
00:50:03Mm-hmm.
00:50:04Because Charlie Watts had a swing.
00:50:06Yeah.
00:50:07In the Middle of Moon music, there's a really wonderful, wonderful composition,
00:50:13which I'm just going to call Rainbows.
00:50:15Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was called Alien Hits, Alien Radio, but it's just a…
00:50:19It's a rainbow.
00:50:20A rainbow emoji, yeah.
00:50:21Yeah, right.
00:50:22It's so…
00:50:23I just would love to know the relationship that song has with the record and…
00:50:26Okay.
00:50:27…and, you know, where it sort of came from, because it really is a three-part piece of music.
00:50:31That is a sort of foreshadowing of the next thing.
00:50:36And it's supposed to be songs by other artists from other galaxies that are sort of answering the question in the song Moon Music.
00:50:45Mm-hmm.
00:50:46It's supposed to be angels and other worldly beings saying, why don't you try this approach, which is acknowledge how you feel, express it in a safe place that's not going to hurt anybody, and then try and be loving.
00:50:59Mm-hmm.
00:51:00That's what that song is.
00:51:01It's sort of… And then it finishes Dr. Maya Angelou singing about when it looked like the sun wasn't going to shine anymore, God put a rainbow in the clouds.
00:51:13So, to me, it means you have to accept all your colors and all the colors of other people.
00:51:19This is literally and metaphorically.
00:51:23And once you accept all those colors, then you can be yourself and then you can let everyone else be themselves.
00:51:29That's what…
00:51:30That's what it means to me.
00:51:31There's a huge amount of acceptance on this record, you know.
00:51:32I mean, Jupiter is a classic example of that and such a beautiful story and, you know, a continuation of what you've been saying for a while on your music, which is like, you know, love who you love.
00:51:42And I love that song as well, I think.
00:51:45And it sounds like it was a very easy performance for you.
00:51:49Yeah, but it's not love who you love. It's I love who I love.
00:51:52Right.
00:51:53The first love is like shouted. I love who I love. Not just I love who I love, leave me alone.
00:51:58It's like, no, I'm really proud of who I love. That's what it means to me.
00:52:01It's funny because, like I keep saying, we travel so much. We're so privileged to see all kinds of people and all kinds of love.
00:52:11And now we have this thing in the show where we have people on screen and we try and sing about them with varying degrees of success.
00:52:17Yeah.
00:52:18But it's just so cool, all the types of people that come up and gay couples and trans people and this nationality and that nationality.
00:52:27And the more you're exposed to things that you might have been taught to be a bit afraid of, the more you realize, oh, it's all love and it's all, why would you ever want to stop someone being themself as long as they're not hurting anyone else?
00:52:39Yeah.
00:52:40Well, my love. I mean, that was, it was really lovely hearing you end the show with that last night and, and hearing everybody sing that song.
00:52:47Well, I did ask him to sing it.
00:52:48Nah, it's different though. It's different. You can print people, but it's not the same.
00:52:51I like that bit. That was new yesterday.
00:52:54It's not often I feel like you allow yourself to just bang out the anthem like that. You know, you on the piano and just like, I mean, that is a fuck.
00:53:00We're doing that before you started Gonzo, my friend.
00:53:02It's true. It's true.
00:53:03Yes. Sometimes it's nice to bang out the songs like that.
00:53:07A big one. I mean, it's a big one. I mean, when you do the McCartney chord, you know the one I talk about.
00:53:11What's the McCartney chord?
00:53:12You know, the turnaround chord in there where it's like.
00:53:14Oh, like a seventh.
00:53:15Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's a very classic sort of beautiful anthemic kind of turnaround chord.
00:53:21But not to sound too much like a nerd, but I'm going to. There's a nice bit which all of these things come out by accident.
00:53:28There's a bit where the left hand goes to the seventh and the right hand goes to the second.
00:53:33Just before the last phrase. Just what you got all my life.
00:53:37Yeah, that one.
00:53:38Which is a bit like living that diet.
00:53:40Yeah.
00:53:41And that chord, I love it. Jacob Collier will be able to tell you what it is.
00:53:44God, he's so good, isn't he?
00:53:45Yeah, he's amazing. Well, he's one of our teachers now.
00:53:47Is he?
00:53:48100%.
00:53:49We have, so we have the four of us. We have the incredible producers around.
00:53:54Max, Ilya, Bill, Brian, Eno still sometimes, you know, Stargate. All of those brilliant people.
00:54:03And then for 16 years now, we've been so lucky to have John Hopkins around on every album.
00:54:08Davide Rossi, who plays a lot of strings. John Metcalfe, who plays a lot of strings.
00:54:13And then in the last, since everyday life, Jacob Collier, who comes in like a professor.
00:54:19He's a mix between like Gandalf and Nigel Kennedy. Do you remember Nigel Kennedy?
00:54:23Yeah, of course.
00:54:24Who was a violinist in the 80s.
00:54:26He's a rock and roll violinist.
00:54:27Yeah, but he was the first person to sort of mix it up with classical.
00:54:30Yeah.
00:54:31So Jacob's like that and he's so brilliant that you just have to pay respect.
00:54:36But it's funny because we, he's so technically on a different level.
00:54:40Yeah.
00:54:41And Brian Eno has no idea what that note even is.
00:54:45But they both have had this seismic impact on us because, mainly because of the joy and the passion and the different ways it's expressed.
00:54:53But the through line is that they, they love it, they live for it.
00:54:58And we're so lucky we get to work with these people.
00:55:01Yeah, that's a dream team.
00:55:02I mean, you know, you start talking about those individuals, you start adding John Hopkins into the mix.
00:55:05And all these amazing people who you can just turn to when you think you've got something, right?
00:55:09Yeah, and then there's a group of singers led by a lady called Denise Karate that we met doing a cover for Radio One of Graceland.
00:55:18Because the rest of the band weren't available, so I did it and I said, I need to find some singers.
00:55:23And we met this group of singers and I call them very early on now to say, hey, please, can you come and try this song and let it expand into registers I can't get to.
00:55:34So it's more than ever.
00:55:36It's always been a collective, our band, but it's more than ever that now.
00:55:40Well, the community is bigger than that even.
00:55:41I mean, you know, for the longest time now, you've had this extended, you know, chorus with the family, you know.
00:55:47And bringing people in to sing on songs.
00:55:49Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:55:50With people who...
00:55:51Yeah, well, like with Moses and Apple, because they sing on this album as well.
00:55:54Yeah.
00:55:55Yeah, and they have a co-write on something or other.
00:55:58Because Moses will say, oh, that bit should go like this.
00:56:02That's cool.
00:56:03Isn't that great when you meet at that point where, if you're lucky, you know, the people who you love kind of, you share some passion for something and you get to actually, you get to find a mutual meeting place.
00:56:14Yeah, it's amazing.
00:56:15And then Apple sings on a few.
00:56:18I mean, it's so lovely to...
00:56:20But to be fair, they've been on every album since Ghost Stories.
00:56:24Yeah.
00:56:25I think that was the first one.
00:56:27A lot of artists, when they become successful, they protect the family unit away from the job and away from what they're doing.
00:56:33There's like family and then there's the work.
00:56:35We don't do this.
00:56:36And yet, you were very inclusive and brought the family into the creative process and wanted to be a part of it.
00:56:40It's all the same thing, you know.
00:56:43How do I say this without sounding too pretentious?
00:56:46Coldplay is my life 24-7.
00:56:48Everything I'm looking at has the lens of my children and the band.
00:56:54At all times.
00:56:56Is this good for those two groups of people?
00:56:59And some other people too, but those two things are always there.
00:57:04And so, often those two things meet.
00:57:07And also, will my kids like this?
00:57:10Or, Moses and me were so into Fontaine's DC, like to a deep level, and it's such a connector for us.
00:57:17And of course, they're influencing what we're doing and what my son is doing, you know.
00:57:23So, for me, family and...
00:57:26First of all, I feel like everyone is in your family.
00:57:29But you mean people who actually came...
00:57:32Yeah, that part.
00:57:34Right.
00:57:35So, it's all the same thing.
00:57:37Yeah.
00:57:38Yeah.
00:57:39And they come and meet you at the studio and you say, well, what do you think of this?
00:57:42And, you know.
00:57:43Don't you feel now, after playing in front of 82,000 people and change, night after night, huge amounts of people coming in and really...
00:57:52Don't you feel, for lack of a better term, protected?
00:57:55I feel you give too much to people for there to be any desire to catch you out anymore.
00:58:00There's no gotcha anymore.
00:58:01I just don't feel...
00:58:02Do you think so?
00:58:03I think there's...
00:58:04No, I think there's always...
00:58:05Positivity and negativity by the laws of nature are always balanced.
00:58:10So, I just assume if everything's going really well for us, it's also going really badly.
00:58:15If everyone's saying nice things, the whole exact amount of people are saying...
00:58:19How does that serve you?
00:58:20It serves me by just trying to keep me completely neutral and not go too much either way.
00:58:26I don't really read things or go on social media because it's not healthy.
00:58:32But things get to me or I hear about things or people say this or people don't like that or people are accusing you of changing into this kind of band or people say you've broken up or you've had this or whatever.
00:58:44And it's just like, oh, it's all good.
00:58:46If for some people were a character in a soap opera, that's great.
00:58:49Whatever helps people, you know, gossip helps people.
00:58:53It's a sort of therapy in a way.
00:58:55So, if you're a character in those modern soap operas, which is, you know, celebrity culture, you just have to be like, okay.
00:59:02Yeah.
00:59:03Um, it's okay.
00:59:05But in terms of being protected, I don't think of it like that.
00:59:09I feel like, in fact, I feel always super exposed.
00:59:13But I just try and have faith that, well, we're doing our best.
00:59:18I'm doing my best.
00:59:19I make mistakes.
00:59:20I accidentally upset people or I say a mean thing where I didn't want to or I get angry when I shouldn't have got angry or I mess up the set list that day.
00:59:30Every day there's a myriad of negative things that I've accidentally done.
00:59:36But we're doing our best.
00:59:38And you have to just accept they'll be positive and they'll be negative in equal amounts.
00:59:43So don't get carried away with everything's amazing or everything's terrible.
00:59:47Because it's both.
00:59:48Yeah.
00:59:49Yeah, that's cool living in the moment, my friend.
00:59:52It's getting cold now.
00:59:55You have to grow up in Devon to be used to this.
00:59:58This is all I used to do with my cousins.
01:00:01Well done.
01:00:02It was worth it.
01:00:03Yeah, it's beautiful.
01:00:05What is on top of that?
01:00:07There's a seal.
01:00:08Hey, guys, look.
01:00:09Yeah, look.
01:00:10See, there's a seal on the top of the rock.
01:00:13Beautiful.
01:00:14Have you ever interviewed seal?
01:00:15No.
01:00:16Where I live, it's funny because you see seals and sometimes you see seal.
01:00:20At the same time?
01:00:21I'm one of the only people who can say that, yeah.
01:00:23Did you feel it though when you wrote All My Love?
01:00:26Did you just kind of get through the initial arrangement of it and just be like…
01:00:31Would you like me to tell you the truth?
01:00:33Yeah.
01:00:34Some songs arrive fully formed and you're just like, where did that come from?
01:00:40Thank you so much.
01:00:41And that's only happened about six times.
01:00:44Viva La Vida happened like that.
01:00:46Yellow happened like that.
01:00:47Paradise happened like that.
01:00:48A Sky Full of Stars, something like that.
01:00:50All My Love happened like that.
01:00:52I'm not surprised.
01:00:53I'm not surprised.
01:00:54And um…
01:00:55Yeah, so I don't…
01:00:56I don't know.
01:00:57It just came through.
01:00:58On a really cheap keyboard that I took to Jamaica.
01:01:02Yeah, I was like, wow.
01:01:04Okay.
01:01:06Is that the first time you ended the show with it?
01:01:08Yes.
01:01:09How did it feel last night hearing everyone sing it back?
01:01:11It felt really nice.
01:01:12But I told them to sing it back.
01:01:13No, but it's not the same.
01:01:14It doesn't count.
01:01:15A fake sing along doesn't count.
01:01:16But the…
01:01:17Okay.
01:01:18But you have to listen back to the clip.
01:01:19People really connected with it immediately.
01:01:20Okay.
01:01:21Well, let me tell you what happened.
01:01:22Because I felt like, oh, that went really well.
01:01:24That's brilliant.
01:01:25So when I went back to my room, I thought, you have to humble yourself, my friend.
01:01:29Right.
01:01:30So I Googled cigarettes and alcohol live by Oasis.
01:01:35And I was like, well, that is a sing along.
01:01:37You did a compare and contrast therapy.
01:01:38Yeah, I was like, don't get ahead of yourself.
01:01:40Right.
01:01:41Sweet cheeks.
01:01:42Because you've got to be put in your place sometimes.
01:01:47That's a special one.
01:01:48You know, I got to the venue yesterday and I said to Will, you know, you're nearly there.
01:01:51You nearly did it.
01:01:52And he was like, did what?
01:01:53And I said, well, you know.
01:01:54He's like, well, we're not done.
01:01:55I said, yeah, but Australia, New Zealand, that's like, that'd be fun.
01:01:58It's like a nice way to end it.
01:01:59And he's like…
01:02:00We're not ending.
01:02:01What are you talking about?
01:02:02It's just what we do.
01:02:03That's what he said.
01:02:04I don't really want to do anything else.
01:02:05Yeah.
01:02:06I love it.
01:02:07Yeah.
01:02:08You're kidding.
01:02:09It restores my faith in humanity.
01:02:11Every day I get to see people singing together.
01:02:14And it's just so fun.
01:02:16Yeah.
01:02:17It's fun for us too, man.
01:02:18Yeah.
01:02:19We're going to get in the water.
01:02:20Yeah.
01:02:21Did you ask for permission to park your boat there?
01:02:24People think Zane hasn't let money get to his head.
01:02:28But look at his boat.
01:02:29Look at his boat.
01:02:30For most people, the idea of performing in front of 80,000 people every night seems strange
01:02:35and untouchable.
01:02:36How do you turn it on every night?
01:02:38And also, how do you turn it off at the end of the night?
01:02:41For Chris, it's as simple as being barefoot, literally grounded, and surrounding yourself
01:02:46with something familiar, or in the case of the ocean, something much, much bigger than you.
01:02:51Are we good at lifeguard?
01:02:52All of us.
01:02:53All of us.
01:02:54All of us.
01:02:55Sorry, end of the day.
01:02:56We've made 15 lifeguards.
01:02:57Wow.
01:02:58What's up?
01:02:59Chris, what's your name?
01:03:00Matthew.
01:03:01Hi.
01:03:02Ellie.
01:03:03Ellie, how you doing?
01:03:04Good.
01:03:05All right, look, we're going to go swimming.
01:03:06We've got seven lifeguards.
01:03:07That's great.
01:03:08This one.
01:03:13No easy way to do this.
01:03:14Oh, shit.
01:03:23You've got all my life.
01:03:24You've got all my life.
01:03:25You've got all my life.
01:03:26I'm all yours.
01:03:27You've got all my life.
01:03:28I'm all yours.
01:03:29You've got all my life.
01:03:33I'm all yours.
01:03:34You've got all my life.
01:03:36You've got all my life.
01:03:38With all my heart, I thank you so much.
01:03:54Goodbye.
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