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22:35I remember the room, I went far away, and a friend of my cousins
22:45He came over, he saw me and he said to me, and he said to me,
22:48"Fousi!" He played a trick on me.
22:50He told me, it was me.
22:52At first, I was unraveling, unraveling, unraveling.
22:56I was unraveling, I was unraveling, I was unraveling, I was unraveling.
23:02And I accept seeing her disappear.
23:06That's fantastic, if you could tell me.
23:08It's always great to come and see one of your works.
23:12It's a very interesting experience; I've learned from my work.
23:16Besides, it's funny to come back to something, because you see all those little things
23:19mistakes, the things you don't do now.
23:22If I do that to Wal today, if you do that a second time, there are so many things
23:25that I don't do the same.
23:27The letters are a little more...
23:29I don't know.
23:32But I think my gaze has changed, too.
23:36But it's okay.
23:37I was getting upset.
23:38I was getting upset.
23:39I can see that a lot of work has been done, with the white contouring.
23:43It was a bit of a detail.
23:46I think you need courage.
23:49I look at all the work I do, and I say "yes," because I've never
23:53alone when I do it.
23:55There's always someone, a team member, who gives me a hand.
23:57I was getting upset.
23:58I was getting upset.
24:00I was getting upset.
24:02I was getting upset.
24:04I was getting upset.
24:05I was getting upset.
24:06I was getting upset.
24:07I was getting upset.
24:09I was getting upset.
24:14I was getting upset.
24:15I was getting upset.
24:17I was getting upset.
24:18I was getting upset.
24:19I was getting upset.
24:20I was getting upset.
24:21I was getting upset.
24:23I was getting upset.
24:25I was getting upset.
24:26I was getting upset.
24:27The first wall I ever painted was in this exact spot here.
24:31Back in the day, we used to call this the little park.
24:33And it's right behind my place, where I grew up in Boulogne-Bien-Cort.
24:37Honestly, I couldn't tell you why it used to be called the Little Park.
24:39Maybe because we're not far off from the Parc des Princes,
24:42which would make this the Little Parc des Princes.
24:43I never actually found out why it used to be called the Little Park.
24:47Nowadays, it's called Jean-Guillon Square.
24:50While I was playing soccer with the boys somewhere in April 1998,
24:55I think I'd bought these cans of spray paint at the cheapo depot.
25:00And I remember that while the match was going on,
25:02I came out here,
25:04and I drew a little character.
25:07Just here, at this exact spot.
25:12Of course, it got cleaned up soon after,
25:15But that's not the funny part.
25:16What's funny is what, while I was painting,
25:19this fencing wasn't there at the time.
25:21And there used to be a lady living on the fourth floor.
25:23I can't remember her name, but she was Spanish.
25:25So she came out on her balcony, and she started shouting at me,
25:28asking me what I was doing.
25:29You know, all, what are you doing?
25:30I'm going to tell your mom.
25:33And I honestly had no idea that tagging walls was illegal.
25:35As far as I was concerned, I'd bought my paint, the wall was gray,
25:39I came out here, and I painted it, and that was it.
25:41I didn't see it as defacing anything.
25:44Then later on, a friend of mine called Tufique de Nune,
25:49But Solfeinpice,
25:50told me that sort of thing wasn't allowed,
25:52that it wasn't legal,
25:53and that I could even get arrested for that sort of defacement.
25:56But this spot right here is where it all began,
26:0121 years ago.
26:03I used to have a day job.
26:06I worked a lot harder as an artist,
26:08But I was a consultant.
26:09and it felt like that job was killing me.
26:12In a certain sense,
26:14painting was what was keeping me alive.
26:16This is where I grew up.
26:21And whenever I get back,
26:22I get to see a lot of my relatives,
26:24my childhood friends.
26:26I always feel connected to this place.
26:28That said,
26:29this area of Boulogne
26:31has changed a good deal.
26:33Back then,
26:34the Isle Seguin was over here.
26:36My dad used to work at the Renault plant until 93,
26:39after which he left for Flynn,
26:40and they shut this plant down.
26:43As for me,
26:43I left Paris in 2006.
26:45But look,
26:46the whole point is
26:46that what I do is ephemeral,
26:49by its very nature.
26:50It's okay if it doesn't last.
26:52There's a trace,
26:53there are memories that leaves behind.
26:55And that's what I hold dear.
26:57What I often say is that
26:59beyond the piece itself,
27:00beyond the artistic challenges
27:01I'll give myself at times,
27:03It's all about the memories
27:04and all the stories you share
27:06with the people you meet in that neighborhood.
27:10This, back in the day,
27:11was more horseplay than anything.
27:14I'd come,
27:14I'd paint on a wall,
27:15I'd draw a character,
27:17my buddies were here playing soccer,
27:19and I would write their names on.
27:21It was just silly fun.
27:23I don't have the same approach today.
27:25It's grown.
27:26I'm more on the lookout
27:27for human experiences.
27:29They're what I like best.
27:30You know,
27:30people get excited
27:31because you bring them something new.
27:32You show an interest
27:33in their neighborhood.
27:34They may not get to live
27:35through something exciting
27:36there every day,
27:37so it's a way for you
27:38to share in more human experiences.
27:40to live through more human stories.
27:42And you're on the receiving end
27:43of so much more human warmth
27:45when you head out
27:46to these more isolated
27:47or marginalized neighborhoods.
27:52This one isn't mine.
27:53This one is mine.
28:10This one is mine.
35:40We were speaking Arabic at home.
35:42I spoke the Tunisian dialect,
35:44So I have a bit of a southern accent.
35:46I mean, my accent is a bit broken,
35:48because I grew up in France.
35:50But there you have it, I'm sending myself.
35:52I send myself a very strong Tunisian identity of myself.
35:55So that's funny,
35:56because that's where I truly found my identity.
35:59That's where I started,
36:01because when I came here,
36:03I thought to myself, you're not Tunisian.
36:05That's what they call us "back-at-home" folks.
36:07And that's what happened.
36:09In France, at the time,
36:10As I said last time,
36:12I wasn't really French,
36:13So there was a small clash,
36:15And it's true that there are many
36:16that I have returned to my Arab,
36:18to my Tunisian friend,
36:19Really.
36:20And in my work,
36:21my French identity
36:23It was very good.
36:24Or perhaps it wasn't done.
36:26So, there was a balance
36:28what happened between the two.
36:30And that brings me to today,
36:31where I send myself my French side
36:32and my Tunisian side,
36:34And I have no problem.
36:3620 years old,
36:37if you were to ask me this question
36:38from France,
36:39I would like to say that I am a Tunisian
36:40and proven
36:41even though I can't even read Arabic.
36:42I think it's more
36:43with the hang-ups you have
36:44when you were in France.
36:45You have a problem
36:46where I think that
36:47you need to choose
36:48between two sides,
36:49but identity
36:50It's more complex than that.
36:51I've already done it the first time.
36:52I tell myself,
36:53I am a little more
36:54more,
36:55I am a little more
36:56more,
36:57I am a little more
36:58more.
36:59Le Cid part comes from Le Cid by Konea, you know, and the way I used to write it out was, I'd write E-L and then S-C-I-D, and Le Cid is a play we used to read in French class in Paris, and the teacher told us that Le Cid comes from the Arabic word Asayid, which means the man, the master, and at the time, I was just starting out with graffiti, and I was saying to myself, I'm the master, here comes the master of the streets, that sort of thing, so it's like an eagle trip, you know, but it stuck, and later on, when I started painting in Arabic,
37:28I changed the S-C-I-D to S-E-E-D, kind of like to represent the seed looking for its roots
37:34Oh, this is funny
37:40Yeah, childhood memories
37:58Oh, this is funny
38:04Oh, this is funny
38:11Oh, this is funny
38:13Oh
38:17Oh
38:21Oh
38:23Oh
38:26Oh
38:26It's funny, there's a little bit of nervousness before arriving.
38:35But then, I'm seeing how the wall isn't there yet.
38:39A lot of my walls have disappeared, but this isn't it yet.
38:41So it's good to see, it's good to see, it's good to see, it hasn't moved.
38:45It's still there.
38:46It's a very special place in my heart, because it's home.
38:50And because a lot has been said about my family's project.
38:53One of my cousins told me it made them stand up tall.
38:57That's the kind of thing that feels good to hear, but I'm basically just painting a wall.
39:01Beyond that, you'll get interpretations.
39:03People will interpret that as they will.
39:04I just wanted to paint a wall, and it later turned out I painted the tallest minaret in Tunisia,
39:09which wasn't a goal in itself, but most importantly, it brought people together.
39:13It was funny seeing all the conversations going on at the bottom of the minaret every day.
39:18There'll be such a crowd down there.
39:23Since this is a minaret, and this is a mosque,
39:32I thought the most appropriate message needed to come from the Quran.
39:37So I used a verse that says,
39:39Oh, mankind, verily we created you from a male and a female and made you into nations and tribes,
39:45so you may know one another.
39:47That's what's written down on both sides in Arabic.
39:50I think a lot of people have very backwards or very simplistic views of what religion is.
39:55But you know the imam, he's the one who authorized the project.
39:58He told me, thank God you came.
40:00And he told me, do what you want.
40:02And you can imagine, it isn't every day you'll come across an imam who's open to graffiti,
40:07all the more so on his mosque's premises.
40:09And I didn't submit a sketch, there was no validation process.
40:12I did it at home because here in Gabes, a lot of people got in touch with me after.
40:16Can you come paint the mosque?
40:17And that turns it into decoration.
40:19Here, this is really a work of art that's placed on the mosque,
40:22one calling for unity, solidarity, and fraternity between people.
40:25I always see that the work only belongs to me while I'm painting it.
40:28Afterwards, it's not mine any longer.
40:30The city owns it.
40:32That's why I didn't sign it.
40:33I never sign any of my walls because that's the point.
40:35The whole idea is to ensure that the wall then belongs to the community.
40:39This one belongs to the city of Gabes.
40:41And that's that.
40:41I think people are proud of me.
40:42And I'm proud of myself.
40:43People tell me that.
40:45And it's nice to hear.
40:45And that's what matters.
41:00And I think people are proud of myself.
41:02It's nice to hear.
41:02Let's go, answer.
41:03All right.
41:17Here we go.
41:47Here we go.
42:17Here we go.
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