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00:00Carol, in some ways, this was a much more muted response from OPEC. Are we reaching the limits
00:06now of what it can do? Are we getting to a period of stability?
00:11I mean, it depends really on how you read it, because yes, you can say it's a modest increase
00:16because some people were expecting a much higher unwinding of barrels of the voluntary cuts of the
00:231.65 million barrels a day voluntary cuts, which were the second tranche of voluntary cuts introduced
00:29by eight members, especially after we saw how over the summer they unwided their first tranche of 2.2
00:35million barrels a day quite rapidly. So therefore, today to see 137 barrels a day, maybe some people
00:41must have seen this as modest or not on par with what happened over the summer. But it is nevertheless
00:48a continuity in terms of the direction of the travel, because last month for October, they already
00:53announced a similar amount. So they are continuing with this cautious approach. And also it's still
00:58an increase. It's still putting more barrels in the market, bearing in mind that the seasonality
01:03of the demand, both in the Western Hemisphere with the holiday season over, the driving season
01:08over, but also domestically in the region, especially in the Middle East, where we use lots of oil
01:13to cool our houses in the summer, that the seasonality of the demand is also tapering off. So that has
01:20encouraged a more cautious approach. Now, some people would say, oh, OPEC is still testing the
01:25market because prices have not crashed. That is true. But we have to keep in mind that what
01:30this OPEC is announcing on paper is not actually what is being released in the market with some
01:36companies that only around 60 percent of the 2.2 million barrels a day made it to the market,
01:41because some producers have to compensate and others, like Russia, don't have the capacity to
01:46put more barrels in the market. Carol, I understand that from a supply side point of view, that actually
01:51in reality, we don't see these barrels arriving. I'm also aware of what is happening on the demand
01:56side as well. The Chinese in particular are buying a lot of crude and putting it into storage. Is
02:01that one of the key reasons why we haven't seen oil prices coming sharply lower? And then that begs
02:06the question, will the Chinese continue to buy? Absolutely. I mean, if I look at the demand side,
02:12I think China is the main component in terms of keeping a floor to oil prices. So what we have seen
02:19so far, I think if you take China out of the equation, prices would have been much lower. But the
02:25Chinese are buying not because their economy is booming. It's primarily for stockpiling,
02:29including strategic petroleum reserves, and especially when they have access to discounted,
02:35attractive, cheap, cheaper oil to buy from Russia and other places as well. So of course,
02:40they are buying. And the big question as we go into 2026, and this is where you can see the kind
02:46of consensus among analysts observing the market, observing the Chinese economy, observing domestic
02:52consumption and their imports need. The big question is for how long and for how much more
02:57will the Chinese continue to buy and salvage oil demand, especially in the absence of a global growth
03:05in the economy that would fuel a global growth in oil demand. So all eyes are on China in terms of
03:11the strategy. And nobody really knows. All the numbers that we have are primarily guesswork because
03:16the figures when it comes to inventories in China are not publicly available. There are lots of
03:22opacity around the Chinese figures. So we're all a bit engaging in some guesswork about what's
03:27happening in that part of the world.
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