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00:00This is a path to production, right? And the enterprise category between you, Anthropic,
00:07OpenAI, it's a fierce battle. I think let's just start by you explaining why you feel
00:12this is such a significant milestone for Mistrel.
00:17Hello, and happy to be here. For us, we're a global company really focused on creating value
00:23for the enterprises. And we have had three years now of experience in doing that. And so AI Studio
00:29is basically the one-stop shop platform where you can build your AI application as a business.
00:35And so it brings everything that we need to create value in the enterprise, to create applications
00:41that belong to the enterprises, that contains their IP, that is connected to their data,
00:46and that improves over time by leveraging the knowledge that is contained within enterprises,
00:50that is contained within employees' mind.
00:52You are a global company. You're producing foundational models, Arthur. I wonder, though,
00:57how you compete against those that are already serving the enterprise. How is your solution
01:02different from that of Anthropics, that of OpenAI, that of Xs and many others?
01:06Well, I think our solution is much more integrated in that we have thought about all of the bricks
01:12that needed to be there to go from a model, which is how we started, to an application with the right
01:17front end, with the right back end, and with the right learning mechanisms. So that integration is
01:22really the reason why we've been succeeding in delivering value with enterprises. So that's one
01:26very strong area of differentiation. The other thing is that, in contrast with some of our competitors,
01:33we really believe that enterprises should build their own AI, that they should own the system,
01:38that the IP should remain their own, that the data should remain where it is and should not
01:42necessarily flow back to us. And so that approach of building a portable platform that can be deployed
01:48on-prem, that can be deployed on private cloud, combined with the vertically integrated approach
01:55of having just one platform allowing you to go from prototype to production, I think is very,
02:01very different from the approach of our competitors. And that has allowed us to make a lot of progress,
02:05in particular in the US.
02:08Arthur, can you talk about how quickly you're able to onboard scaled enterprise customers to this,
02:15and in turn, therefore, what the capacity and compute constraints are for you in launching a new
02:21product, and then trying to run workloads with clients?
02:26Well, a good example that I can give you is what we've been doing with one of our big customers,
02:33which is a logistic company called CMA-CGM, and one of the biggest shipping companies in the world.
02:38And so as many other companies, they were a bit struggling with the adoption of AI. If you look at the
02:43the MIT reports, they state that 95% of use cases just don't go into production. And the way we have
02:49done the work with them is we use the AI studio, and we deployed our AI applied engineers, our AI
02:55applied scientists, we made them work with the business unit owners, and they realized what kind
03:00of processes could be automated end to end. And from ideating what we could automate to going into
03:05production, so from March to July, in four months, we were able to understand a full function to be
03:11automated, so cargo release and dispatching of containers to multiple customers. We're able
03:18to go from that to production that is now going at a global scale. So the way we think about it is
03:26that it takes a quarter to go from a prototype to production. And for it to happen, you need to have
03:32the right tools. You need to have the right tools. You need to have the right experts. You need to deeply
03:36understand what AI agents can do and cannot do. You need to connect the agents to the data sources.
03:42You need to connect them to software, which is sometimes legacy. So you need to have the right
03:46interfaces, the right plumbing. That's what AI studio can bring. You also need to have the experts. So
03:52that's why we deploy people in the companies that we work with.
03:55Arthur, there is intense interest in Mistral as the European champion among AI labs, frontier labs.
04:02The thing we're most interesting to learn about is the progress of the follow-on fundraising round
04:08that's reported you're undertaking. How much money are you seeking to raise? But beyond the money,
04:14why do you need to do a quick follow-on? What is the most pressing need for capital at the moment?
04:20So I'm not sure we'll talk to you about the follow-on, but we are not raising money at the moment.
04:25We've just actually announced a fundraise with ASML, which is the biggest European company,
04:31and with whom we work, with whom we have a commercial agreement, where we help them make
04:36better products, automate their processes. We help connect their vertical expertise to horizontal
04:42expertise. We make them create their own AI and deploy this AI into their systems. So that was a
04:501.7 billion euro raise, which makes us, we've raised around 3 billion euro in total. And that
04:59in turn has enabled us to grow very fast and to create unique technology and to release it
05:03in particular on the open source world. That was really interesting, this strategic investment
05:07coming from ASML. You just referenced CMA, CGM, another French-based giant. It's a global company,
05:14but it's French-based. You got work with Stellantis. You got work with BNP Paribas. What about US
05:19companies? How are you managing to penetrate here? So we are working with multiple US companies. We're
05:25working with Cisco, for instance, which has chosen us because we allow them to deploy on private cloud
05:31and we deploy people to work with them, in particular on the customer experience side. So that's one
05:37important customer of ours. We also work with Snowflake, deploy our technology, in particular
05:42on document processing and all of our technology to structure unstructured knowledge and to take
05:50unstructured knowledge and turn it into things that can then be crawled by AI systems. We also work,
05:56as you know, with Microsoft, which is a very important partner of ours and exposes our model
06:00on Foundry, our models being very competitive, in particular on their cost-to-performance ratio.
06:08We work with AWS and GCP, and we work with multiple digital natives companies as well.
06:14Arthur, your peers, Dario Amadei from Anthropics, Sam Altman, OpenAI, are looking increasingly to the
06:21Middle East, both for capital but compute capacity, right? This week, we broke the news of Anthropics
06:28securing 1 million TPUs with Google and GCP. That's the scale that people are talking about.
06:35Are you making those future plans for scale? Are you looking at debt markets to ensure the future
06:42of Mistral and what you want to do? The future of artificial intelligence is very linked to
06:48infrastructure, as you know. And as a consequence of that, we have created a new business unit called
06:55Mistral Compute, which is creating digital infrastructure, GPUs in particular, in Europe,
07:01which is lacking infrastructure today. And so we've been growing that very fast, and we are
07:07acquiring multiple hundreds of megawatts capacity in the coming year to actually be able to serve
07:14our customers, to serve AI startups, to serve all of our existing customers and customers that come to
07:21us because they are looking for sovereign capacity. We also use that capacity to train our own models and
07:26to maintain our leadership on the open source fund. But with that comes the need to continue to invest.
07:32You've raised money. And is that what's being used to finance the exploration and data center build out?
07:39Because I'm looking at a headline at the moment that the Bank of England itself is really worried
07:43about a so-called AI bubble and some of the debt and the financing that's going on of data centers
07:48at the moment. Is that something that gives you pause, Arthur?
07:50Well, we've raised equity, and we are deploying that equity to actually train models. So R&D is financed by our equity.
07:59We also have long-term contracts for our compute facilities. And with those long-term contracts,
08:04we are able to actually finance them through debt. This is bank debt and gives us confidence that we are not
08:13overly exposed to debt. There is a lot of investment happening on the infrastructure side today. We're
08:21really focused on creating the long-term value that will justify these investments. Because we operate
08:26with venture prices, because we go all the way to delivering value for them, to identifying their use
08:30cases, to transforming what looks like magic to something that looks like money, we are not exposed to
08:38whatever may happen on overly investing on the infrastructure side. We invest on the infrastructure
08:43side in a wise way.
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