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00:00Big Bitcoin holders are using a new generation of ETFs to transfer their wealth off the blockchain
00:04without selling. Bloomberg's Emily Grafea reported on these in-kind transactions and she joins us now.
00:09How are they doing it? So the SEC approved in-kind transactions and spot Bitcoin ETFs back in the
00:16summer. This is a kind of transaction that happens in most ETFs. But basically we spoke to asset
00:22managers that have these ETFs that are saying that high net worth investors are coming to them
00:27saying, I made a ton of money in Bitcoin. I want to bring it into the regulated financial system.
00:33So what they're doing is they're taking their Bitcoin and they're giving it to the ETF.
00:36They're getting back shares of a Bitcoin ETF in return that then they can use for lending,
00:42collateral, margin, because it's an ETF as opposed to Bitcoin holdings that they had like in a cold
00:48wallet. So TradFi to the rescue again. Yeah, it's pretty circular here. BlackRock said that they've
00:53already facilitated more than three billion of these transactions. Bitwise said they're getting
00:58calls basically every day for investors looking to do this. And sometimes it's someone looking to take
01:04all of their Bitcoin holdings and move it to the ETF. Sometimes it's someone just looking for maybe 20%
01:09of what they own. Just 10 seconds. Why are the ETFs popular for this? Because you can make this change
01:16what we believe to be tax-free because there's no selling involved. So you can kind of move into this ETF
01:22and you don't have to actually sell your Bitcoin holdings. You just kind of swap them.
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