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00:00Poets, writers or artists and from the olden days and one thing that I noticed in all their lives
00:08was that all of them got the appreciation they deserved after they were gone.
00:13First of all, it doesn't matter to them beyond a point.
00:17Obviously, if you're an artist, your art comes from a high point within you
00:22and you want that art to elevate others.
00:26So if others are not appreciating it, there's something missing then.
00:29The society is not ready to see the mirror.
00:32Are they not mentally prepared for what the artist is saying?
00:35The readiness is subjective.
00:38So you cannot say society is not ready.
00:40Are you ready to run at a great speed right now?
00:44Well, not really.
00:45Have you been chased by a bull or a snake ever?
00:48You know how suddenly you find yourself ready.
00:51No?
00:51Ready to run in whatever you have.
00:53You're ready.
00:53Sandals, slippers, shorts, run.
00:55So, sir, I want to ask you a question about a pattern I noticed in the field of art, all forms of art.
01:06I was reading more about famous poets, writers or artists and from the olden days.
01:14And one thing that I noticed in all their lives was that all of them got the appreciation they deserved after they were gone.
01:24Like, for example, we can take Franz Kafka, Emily Dickinson, we can take Sylvia Plath or Vincent Van Gogh.
01:31All of them died thinking that they were terrible human beings.
01:35Nietzsche.
01:36Yeah.
01:37So, all of them did not get the recognition that they deserved during their time.
01:43But after they were dead, they were glorified.
01:45Not only did they get the attention, but they are now seen as the greatest of all time.
01:53Isn't it not fair for them?
01:54And why is it that in this world, after people are gone, they are glorified?
01:59Yeah.
02:01So, first of all, it doesn't matter to them beyond a point.
02:09Obviously, if you are an artist, your art comes from a high point within you and you want that art to elevate others.
02:21So, if others are not appreciating it, there is something missing then.
02:27One part of it is alright that you are able to express the highest within you in form of your art.
02:35So, that part is taken care of, but still one part remains out of compassion or just as our highest, deepest nature.
02:48We want a thing of beauty to be understood by others.
02:53So, that part will remain missing.
02:55Similarly, if you are a philosopher or a social reformer, you are working for the sake of others.
03:03Right?
03:04You are writing a book, you want the book to be read by others, you won't be reading your own books.
03:10So, if others don't read it, yes, something does remain missing.
03:14However, the principle thing has already been taken care of.
03:20The principle thing, the thing of greater importance is that you express the highest within.
03:29Right?
03:30It requires first of all that you discover the highest within.
03:33Once it is discovered, you are helpless.
03:36It would be expressed.
03:37Thus, the manifestation, the expression is spontaneous and unstoppable.
03:45So that part is taken care of.
03:47The other part, you kind of just keep wishing and remain a little sorry about.
03:53Well, if I could see them understanding this that I am gifting them, wouldn't that be great?
04:02That does not often happen as you rightly pointed out.
04:06Why doesn't it happen?
04:09Because as a people, we of this world are not used to compassion or to greatness.
04:23Because what is it that you see all around?
04:26Do you see compassion or do you see self-interest, selfishness?
04:30What do you see all around?
04:33Do you see colossal figures, towering Everest or do you see petty dwarfs?
04:46What do you see?
04:48Petty dwarfs.
04:49When somebody extends a hand towards you, what's your usual instinctive reaction?
05:02In general.
05:04Somebody extends a hand.
05:05What would be your instinctive reaction?
05:07Would you really think the fellow is coming to help you?
05:11Come on, you ask me so many questions on groping and such things.
05:17You know better than me.
05:19Right?
05:20You'll question it and you'll be suspicious.
05:22There is a hand coming towards me.
05:26Surely, it seeks to snatch something.
05:29Right?
05:30But when the fellow is gone, there is no more hand left to come to you.
05:38There is works left.
05:39So, your suspicions that the fellow was doing something for self-interest or petty self-gratification,
05:46they hold no more ground.
05:49Because the fellow is no more alive.
05:51So, there is no way he can ingratiate himself through you.
05:57So, now one of your suspicions becomes baseless.
06:01Now, he's gone.
06:04Secondly, now there is a greater time and a greater objective opportunity to appreciate his life and his works.
06:17Because the fellow was like a whirlwind, like a meteor.
06:24Suddenly, the sky was set ablaze and you didn't even get even chance in front of his speed and his brilliance
06:34to properly soak him, absorb him, understand him.
06:39You require maybe some 200 years to just understand what he said or did.
06:48Because in some sense, he was ahead of his time.
06:51In some sense, he was just too speedy.
06:56Too much beyond the ways of this world.
06:59Later on, first of all, your suspicions reduce and secondly, you get more time.
07:09Thirdly, because of what he has done, because of what he has done, you become capable of appreciating him.
07:20It is not just the objective passage of time.
07:23It also has to do with what he has offered you.
07:27Because of what he has offered you, in part, you become capable enough to understand him.
07:36So, it takes time.
07:37The more important thing is, what kind of world is it, in which greatness and love and compassion are just so rare, that when we encounter them, if at all,
08:03we just doubt them or reject them or misunderstand, misinterpret, what kind of world is this?
08:18You look at our situation.
08:21First of all, 99.99% trash.
08:28That's what surrounds us, right?
08:32And if by glorious chance, as a great exception, there is 0.01% greatness, brilliance, selfless compassion, you will never accept it because you are used to the usual 99.99%.
08:56You will think, even this one is of the same type.
09:03Out of 10,000 people you meet, 99.99 are corrupt.
09:09So, first of all, the remaining one is extremely rare.
09:13Secondly, exactly because he is very rare, he would not be appreciated.
09:22He would be considered similar to the 999 ones.
09:28Look at his, what you may call as his misfortune.
09:35But he is not unfortunate.
09:38Internally, he is totally fulfilled.
09:40For himself, he is totally fulfilled.
09:43But some part of him also longs to see you fulfilled.
09:52And all his life, that person will bear the pain of not being understood.
10:00Though inwardly, for himself, he will be quite contented.
10:05Totally fulfilled.
10:06When it comes to his own expression, he is at peace.
10:11But still, something would be left unfinished.
10:16He would look at your faces and say, I tried my best but I couldn't bring the real thing to them.
10:26Anyway, that's how with a shrug of the shoulders, he would respond.
10:32Anyway, I did the maximum possible.
10:37You need to be very careful about this because it's a double trap.
10:42One, you are surrounded by the 9999 idiots.
10:47Two, when you meet the one exception, you are so conditioned to idiots.
10:54You take even the exception as an idiot.
10:57In fact, you are doubly suspicious of the exception.
11:01You say at least those idiots don't sound so wise.
11:06This one is sounding so wise, so he must be not just an idiot but also a crook.
11:12He is a very clever idiot it seems.
11:18That's how it happens.
11:22It's a commentary on us.
11:25The way we are.
11:26The way majority of mankind is.
11:29Sir, you said that one thing you mentioned is that artists are ahead of their time.
11:38That they think very fast.
11:40He is very fast.
11:41So, can we info from the statement that the society is not ready to see the mirror.
11:48Are they not mentally prepared for what the artist is saying?
11:52See, readiness is subjective.
11:56Readiness is subjective.
12:00Are you ready to run at a great speed right now?
12:05Well, not really.
12:09What if a mad dog just enters this place and starts bearing its sharp teeth to you?
12:18You will run like a Ferrari.
12:22Readiness is subjective.
12:25Have you been chased by a bull or a snake ever?
12:31You know how suddenly you find yourself ready.
12:34No?
12:35Ready to run in whatever you have.
12:38Sandals, slippers, shorts, run.
12:41You are ready.
12:42So, you cannot say society is not ready.
12:47The society is withholding its consent.
12:51Because the society does not know of its own miserable state.
12:58The society thinks it is more or less alright as it is.
13:02So, when a great artist comes and challenges your notions of beauty.
13:07You say, but we already know what beauty is.
13:10Why are you teaching us?
13:14What we all need is more self-awareness so that we can boldly encounter our ugly face.
13:23And when you can encounter ugliness, then only can you respect beauty.
13:28As long as you think of your ugliness as beautiful.
13:31Why will you appreciate real beauty?
13:34Ugly we all are.
13:37But we have labelled this ugliness as beauty.
13:40False we all are.
13:42But we have labelled this falseness as truth.
13:45So, when somebody comes with beauty and truth.
13:48We just shoo them away.
13:49Shoo.
13:50We already have it.
13:51No, no.
13:52No, no.
13:53Don't hawk your wares to me.
13:54Yeah, no, no.
13:55Tomatoes I already have.
13:57Knock at some other door.
13:59That's the way you treat vegetable vendors, right?
14:02No, Bhaya.
14:03I already have bread for the day.
14:05Come some other day.
14:07So, when a Vincent comes to you.
14:09Or a Nietzsche comes to you.
14:12You say, no, we already know the truth.
14:15We already know what beauty is.
14:17Don't teach us these things.
14:18We already know, Bhaya.
14:19Go Bhaya.
14:20Sir, you said that we should not be burdening the other person.
14:30We should be the unburdening one.
14:32But sometimes truth burdens people.
14:34When you are speaking the truth, it burdens other people.
14:37How do you do with that?
14:39How do you deal?
14:40Somebody who takes truth as a burden is not worth being with.
14:43Full stop.
14:47It's a relationship founded on lie.
14:49And lies are things that don't really exist, but appear to exist.
14:54That's what you call as lie, right?
14:56What is really not there, but appears to be there.
15:00It's a facade.
15:01A miraj.
15:02That's what you call as lie.
15:04A relationship founded on lie.
15:07Will it have any substance?
15:09Can it last?
15:10Can it last?
15:11And even if it is made to artificially last, it would be life sapping.
15:22The fellow who cannot take truth is not worth being with.
15:27No.
15:28And it not necessarily be the fellow at the other end.
15:36It could be the fellow at this end.
15:42Have you seen how frequently so-called lovers exchange lies?
15:47When you go to meet your so-called lover, you dress up in the best possible way.
15:58I'll call it the most deceptive way.
16:02Later on when he discovers your true face.
16:05I mean literally the true face, not just the symbolic one.
16:12The relationship is gone.
16:13Why do we dress up so much?
16:16Why do we make up so much?
16:19Is that not a lie?
16:20I'm asking.
16:22I'm not talking about the general things like combing your hair.
16:27Or washing your face.
16:29I'm talking about the obviously false face that we present to others.
16:37Is that not a lie?
16:39Though you may present it in more
16:41acceptable and diplomatic terms like putting your best foot forward.
16:47But that's not your best foot.
16:48It is somebody else's best foot.
16:50It's an artificial foot.
16:52And you are putting it forward.
16:55And the same thing is being done from that end as well.
16:58Ever seen why it happens that later in the relationship lovers accuse each other of having changed.
17:12You are no more the same person.
17:13You have changed.
17:15No, the fellow has not changed.
17:17The fellow is only revealing his true face now.
17:19The changed face was the first face.
17:24The one that he showed you at the beginning.
17:27That was a changed face.
17:29This is the face that he always had.
17:32He has not changed.
17:33Why must the relationship be based on pretense?
17:38On demonstration?
17:48The lady decided to skip college.
17:50The entire day was skipped.
17:51Why?
17:52Because she had a date in the evening.
17:56For the 7 pm date, she didn't attend any class the whole day.
18:01What was she doing?
18:04Manufacturing lies.
18:06What else?
18:08You would say she was preparing.
18:10I would call that manufacturing.
18:13Manufacturing lies.
18:14Here, I have just addressed the physical part of it.
18:22Then comes the emotional part of it.
18:27And then comes your deepest reality.
18:32If the other cannot take it, why do you insist being with him?
18:39Why?
18:45You love freedom and he says, no, no, no.
18:47I'll prefer you to be the queen of the house.
18:52I make enough money.
18:53You just sit at home.
18:55And do the kitchen and the bedroom and raise the kids.
19:04And you don't want to tell him bluntly, dude.
19:09This is not the deal.
19:15Why don't you tell him bluntly?
19:16If he can't take your truth, why must you be with him?
19:19And that applies not just to a person.
19:22That applies not only to a boyfriend or a husband or a father or a mother.
19:26That applies to every relationship.
19:28Even the relationships that you have with institutions.
19:31The relationship that you have with the nation.
19:33The relationship that you have with religion.
19:35Let the other accept you in your naked reality.
19:49If the other wants you to first go and dress up and present a beautiful mask,
19:57then the relationship is anyway not going to last.
20:02The masks you very well know, they come off.
20:06And then so do the gloves.
20:14Seventy percent of murders of women all across the world.
20:19Tell me who commits them?
20:22They are close relatives.
20:30When it comes to women, they are not killed by strangers.
20:37When it comes to women, they are murdered to the extent of seventy percent
20:43by their own relatives or persons known to them or their lovers.
20:48Is this the quality of relationship you want to have?
21:00So sir, my name is Nesima Muzawar.
21:03So you write books.
21:05You are also a philosopher.
21:07So from where did you get that thought of writing books, starting to write books?
21:13Most of my books are authored, not really written.
21:16Only a handful of them are really written.
21:19This is one of the books that I really sat down and wrote.
21:23Otherwise, for example, this discussion, this will take the form of a book.
21:30It will be transcribed and then edited to make it reader friendly.
21:35And this will then become a book.
21:36So, not that I set out to be a writer.
21:43My purpose was to have an inner sky, a place of freedom.
21:53And share it with everybody because you are much the same as me.
21:59Freedom is not my monopoly.
22:02We are all human beings.
22:04Your pain is my pain.
22:08My joy is your joy.
22:10If I can have it, you can have it.
22:12And in attempting to help you, I help myself.
22:23Are you getting it?
22:26That's how it happens.
22:28So out of these interactions, after a few years, books started coming out.
22:33I never aimed to be a book writer.
22:40These discussions were there.
22:41They were compiled.
22:43Somebody said this, this and this.
22:45If put together, would make great reading material.
22:49I said proceed.
22:51So that's how the first book was published.
22:54Ten years back.
22:56Then it was received well.
22:58So more books came.
22:59And now this one that I have actually come to Goa to write.
23:08It was written mostly here, your place.
23:11I wrote it here and how it is being released.
23:14I came specifically to write this book.
23:20And thank you so much for Goa.
23:23It's a very nice place to write a book.
23:28I have been listening to Acharajji since the past six months.
23:37The way Acharajji talks to everyone, the way he, the kind of...
23:42He's talking about three main things, which is Atman, Prakturpi and Ego, which is Ehankar.
23:51But he's coming to where everyone is.
23:56He's not starting from where he is.
23:58He's pulling us towards him.
24:00And that is what I really love about the way he talks about the way he propagates spirituality.
24:06And the biggest change that I've seen in myself is...
24:13One, I would love to say this, it's probably a big one, is that my whole world view has opened up.
24:22In the sense that I used to be very distant from religion, from participating in religion on any level, actually.
24:35And that was because what I saw around me was deeply ritualistic, was deeply flawed.
24:43And these were all activities of suppression, of giving you all sorts of different dogmas and telling you that you are not allowed to question.
24:55That was my understanding of religion.
24:58And it was just disgusting to me, actually.
25:01And now I'm realizing, because of Acharya Ji, I'm realizing that I have had a religious bent of mind.
25:13I just didn't know it.
25:15And it's been a great, very big and beautiful self-discovery that my standpoint has sort of been vindicated.
25:26But also, I've also seen and observed my own ego, where I was wrong, where I was making certain very dangerous and big assumptions.
25:36And with so much confidence.
25:38So, a lot of that self-confidence and the wrong ideas and the wrong beliefs has gone.
25:45And it has not been easy.
25:46But I can really see the futility of me resisting this change, because it has just gotten me a clearer view of myself and of the world.
26:03And it has all happened because of Acharya Ji and the wisdom that he is bringing to us in such a beautiful way.
26:13And with his tireless efforts and tireless efforts of the Institute.
26:16It's been, I'm really looking forward to finding out more what this life has to offer me and what the wisdom of those who came before us have to offer me.
26:30And, yeah, it's been great. So far, I'm really looking forward to being associated with Vita sessions more and more and discovering more and more about myself and about life and about everything that interests me and everything that makes life wonderful.
26:53Thank you very much.
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