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Taylor Swift’s ‘The Life of a Showgirl’ takes over the top 10 of the Hot 100, and also the No. 1 spot on the Billboard 200. We take to the streets to find out how fans really feel about the tracklist, chart experts break down Taylor’s monumental takeover and more!
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00:00It's a Taylor Swift takeover on the charts. Where did the Life of a Showgirl tracks debut?
00:05Hey, it's Tetris at the Hot 100 show. I love Taylor Swift and apparently everybody else does
00:11too. So we're gonna see where the Life of a Showgirl tracks landed in the top 10.
00:16We have Swifties out in the streets of LA. We got Swifties in our New York studio
00:20and all that's left to do is run it down. This is the Billboard Hot 100 top 10 for the week-dated
00:26October 18. At number 10 is Cancel.
00:35I love Cancel just because it like reminds me of old like albums like it reminds me of
00:40Reputation a little bit. The message behind it too like you love your friends no matter what like I
00:44love that. Is it okay for Taylor to be like I don't care that you got canceled as long as you're drifting
00:53Gucci? No but at the same time yes we all have friends that we know are toxic and yet we still
00:58stay friends with them. Yes.
01:05Eldest Daughter is at number nine.
01:08But I'm never gonna let you down. I'm never gonna leave you.
01:14The Eldest Daughter. Yeah. What do you like about that song? I also like the lyrics and I feel like the
01:19the bridge is all so beautiful.
01:27Sabrina Carpenter joins Taylor at eight.
01:35I feel like you're dressed like a showgirl. You're like a life of a showgirl.
01:39I wouldn't mind the life of a showgirl for like a week but then I couldn't do it. I can't do what
01:45Taylor does. She's incredible. That's not what showgirls get. They leave us for dead.
01:53What do you like about the life of a showgirl? It has Sabrina on it. I like the ending especially
01:57because they have those kind of recording from the Heiress tour. Right. I feel like that's so amazing.
02:03Thank you for an unforgettable night. We will see you next time.
02:08And there are numbers 10 through 8 so it's time to check in with the New York team to talk all
02:13about it. What's up Swifties? Danielle, how many vinyls you got? Hey, I only got one today but here
02:18she is the Target Edition. Ooh, the Target Edition. I gotta grab that one. So listen, starting with the
02:23top 10, Cancel being 10 is definitely really interesting to start this conversation. How are
02:29you guys feeling about Cancel? I mean, I love Canceled. I'm happy that it made the top 10. Only two songs
02:35didn't. It's very Reputation-era coded. It's very mysterious, sultry. Yeah, it definitely harkens back
02:44to that 2017 Taylor. No, I mean, I think Danielle makes a great point. Obviously, Reputation is one of
02:50the two non-re-records that we have not, may never get. So I know a lot of people who are really excited
02:55about that album. You know, if this is a taste of it, I don't know if this is, you know, maybe the shell
03:00of a vault track that they finished or something like that. But to give us that little taste of that era,
03:04I think for a lot of Swifties who are really, you know, still hoping for Reputation, Taylor's version
03:09to come out someday, this is a good, you know, a good reminder, a good little like, okay, this is what I
03:13love about her and glad she put it on this album this time, so. I mean, the track is definitely
03:18giving Reputation vibes, but listen, we know the internet has been loud for the last week. This is
03:23definitely one of those tracks that got everybody talking. How do you feel about the controversy?
03:27I think, yeah, people are always going to talk. When it comes to the lyrics, Taylor always prides
03:33herself as a lyricist, so people are really looking into the lyrics for this one. But for me, it's just
03:38about the music and if the music's good, it's good. Oh yeah, and we'll get to more controversy,
03:43but for now, what about number nine, Eldest Daughter? I love the song, actually. I feel like going into the
03:48album, I was expecting very much like big anthemic, you know, big booming arena style songs from this
03:55album, but this was one of the, I feel like, traditional singer-songwriter-y, slow songs,
04:00and it was one of my favorites I thought she did a great job on. Yeah, it's like
04:07the fifth song on the album. So I think the nice thing about it is it kind of, at least when I heard
04:13it through, it was the first kind of act two of the album, where the first songs are a little more
04:18upbeat, a little more all in the same kind of vein, and this was like, okay, we're switching gears here.
04:22I feel like if you like folklore, Taylor, this is probably like more in that kind of class.
04:26If you like, like Xander said, the singer-songwriting kind of vibe, a little, you know, more mellow,
04:31but more introspective. And I think obviously a lot of people can relate to it. I mean, literally
04:35calling, you know, how many Eldest Daughters are out there. So I think it's one of those songs that
04:39is both personal and universal. And I think for a lot of people, when Taylor hits that sweet spot,
04:44that is some of their favorite Taylor. So shout out to her. And I love how we're finding out like which
04:49track goes with which album, like a little Reputation here, a little Folklore here. And then
04:53now, of course, the Life of a Showgirl title track with Sabrina Carpenter. Now, I gotta be honest,
04:57I'm surprised this wasn't higher because to me, this one, this one's a hit. Sabrina Carpenter was
05:02definitely the person to choose for this song. She sounds perfect in the second verse, and she
05:08definitely knows the life of the showgirl at this point with all of the acclaim that she's getting from
05:14her own tour. So yeah, I love that it's been a full circle moment for her growing up such a big
05:21Swifty. But yeah, it's a great song. I love the song too. Like, I feel like I can imagine this in like
05:26a big stadium. It kind of reminded me of Long Live from Speak Now, where it's like, feels like she can
05:31perform it in a whole stadium. It feels like it kind of harkens back to that era a little bit. And yeah,
05:37it was one of my favorites on the album too. Oh, absolutely, man. I hope that one is a single.
05:41That's what I'm hoping for there. But we still have seven more Taylor songs to get to. So
05:46let's jump back into the top 10. Actually Romantic grabs seven.
05:57My favorite song on the life of the showgirl is Actually Romantic. It is one of the best shade
06:03songs that's ever come out. And I want to play it to all of my haters.
06:06I heard you call me boring Barbie when the Cokes got you brave. It's a funny way to express it.
06:14Yes, I agree. Potential beef. I think that if someone lets you open for their worldwide tour,
06:20that maybe you should be more appreciative of them. Spicy taste.
06:31Wishlist is on the list at six.
06:38Oh my god. You look like a Swifty. Um, yeah, yeah. I think I saw your I Love Taylor Swift shirt. Yeah.
06:44What is your favorite song on the life of a showgirl? My favorite song is Wishlist,
06:48probably because like I want a baby face and a fat ass, but I also want a big family.
06:53So I want it all and she told me I can have it all.
07:02While Wood grabs number five.
07:08Wood, number one. I mean, come on. I just love the sound of it. I think it's really clever,
07:13really funny. I think the puns are nice. Not family friendly, but you know, sometimes you need that, guys.
07:22My favorite song is Wood. I love Wood. I agree with you. You know what I'm saying.
07:31And number four is Father Figure.
07:33I think the most unhinged lyric right there was the, you know, my bigger, you know?
07:42Do you have an opinion about like the censored or uncensored version? My check's bigger, my bigger.
07:47I'm sure they played that for the movie, you know, the check's bigger, you know, for the kids.
07:50But listening to it on the CD, it's like, okay, I'm gonna like, you know, sing that out loud.
07:55I can't make deals with you down because my.
07:58Okay. So I feel like seven through four are banger, banger, banger, bangers that we have to discuss.
08:04Actually romantic. Let's talk about it.
08:06Yeah, I love actually romantic. I think it's very like rock and roll coded, like kind of a little bit
08:12of Weezer in there. We haven't really heard this sound from Taylor before and I kind of want her to
08:17dig deeper. Um, but I like when it comes to the song sonically, it's amazing. I know there's a ton
08:24of controversy again surrounding the lyrics. Um, but it's a great song. And I mean, you talk
08:30about the lyrics of this song. I feel like they're pretty specific and we all know Taylor can get
08:35very specific with her pin. So do you feel like people have the right to be speculating about this track?
08:40I think of course, yeah, that's kind of what goes into being a Swifty. It's like trying to read between the lines
08:46and see what sort of history or beef she has with different artists or different people that's been
08:52associated with her over time. And so I think it's, it's totally in the right. That's, I think part of
08:56what being a Swifty is, is seeing what, you know, all the different Easter eggs and the clues. And I
09:01think she does a good job of teasing those things on the song. I mean, look, we're coming off a year of,
09:06you know, diss tracks. I mean, obviously Drake Kendrick was, you know, the big highlight of 2024, but I feel
09:11like we're in this era now where people are like, okay, you send shots. I'm gonna send shots back.
09:15Maybe there are people who actually didn't even realize what the controversy was until
09:20the response track came out. And then a lot of people are kind of diving back in to say,
09:24wait a minute, did we, did I miss this beef? Like, and look, I'm sure a lot of folks would say,
09:30look, if you come for me, you better not miss. And I got every right to get back at you. So
09:35now, you know, the ball's in someone else's court. If they want to respond, let's hear it.
09:39That's the power of music for you.
09:42Listen, I'm sure Sympathy is a Knife got a lot more streams this week.
09:45I just, I didn't say, nobody said anything about that. Nobody said, nobody said,
09:49I'm sorry, I can name names, but that song did boost in streams. Yes.
09:55And then we got to talk about my favorite song, Wishlist. Oh my God. The first time I listened
10:00to the album, I was obsessed with that track. Tell me you loved it too, Danielle.
10:03Of course. It's such a pretty song. This is like the love song that we were all waiting for in the
10:08album. I also love that Taylor said that this was one of the last songs she wrote. She said,
10:13once she wrote this song, she knew that the album was done. And it's, it gives us a little glimpse
10:19into the life after Showgirl, which is really fun. Yeah. I think the lyric actually is really
10:25interesting on this song because, you know, there might be a lot of songs that are structured where
10:29it's this idea where she sets up like what other people might want. They might want, you know, Oscars
10:32and all this kind of stuff. And sometimes people will go, you know, but you can have that. That's useless.
10:36But I liked that she actually was like, if you want that, like, I'm happy for you. Go get that.
10:41Here's just what I want. So it's not even like this big contrast of like, you're wrong for not
10:46wanting what I want, or you should, you know, do this or that. But it's just like, it's sort of,
10:50it's sort of like this universal, like everybody can get what they want, but it's just like, yo,
10:54I kind of want this and I'm happy having this. And if you want to chase this and that or whatever,
10:58whatever you want, whatever's on your wishlist, you know, I'm happy that you get it. So I think that's,
11:02that's an interesting sort of universality to it that I think again, hits that sweet spot that
11:06she's just so good at, at making personal songs, just universal in their own way. So when something
11:11like that happens, I think that's that Taylor magic. Yeah. I mean, there's lots of Travis Nuggets
11:17on the album. This one definitely was one of the best ones for me. And then Danielle, of course,
11:21I follow you on social media. So I already know you are a wood stan. Let's hear it.
11:28I do love wood and I'm proud. I think this song is sonically one of her best on the album.
11:36When I first listened to albums all the way through, I listened more for the production and
11:42especially knowing that Max Martin and Shellback were reunited with her. So maybe I didn't get those
11:47double entendres at first, but even after hearing them, I think they're so fun. And like, we've never
11:52heard this side of Taylor before. Um, it does feel a little bit like, uh, Sabrina Carpenter-esque.
11:59Um, but there's nothing wrong with that. Yeah. I was gonna say, she's clearly been spending a lot
12:03of time with Sabrina where like those like tongue in cheek lyrics with double entendres are starting
12:08to rub off on her a little bit. And I think it's fun to see like, you know, Taylor's like in her 30s
12:13now, of course, like this is a part of it. And it's fun to see her experiment with, you know,
12:18with different lyricisms and, you know, different, uh, tongue in cheek things like this.
12:22Definitely when I heard it, like, I think to Danielle's point about the Sonic, it's like,
12:25oh, this sounds like, you know, the next single. I'm always, when I was going through, obviously,
12:29I know Fate of Ophelia, which we'll talk about later is, you know, single number one, but I'm kind
12:33of like, okay, what's, what's the followup? What kind of direction are we going to go into? Wood was
12:37really one of the ones where I just like, when I heard that music, I'm like, oh, this sounds very
12:40radio friendly, sounds very, you know, catchy. Look, I hate you. You know, when you work in the industry,
12:45you're like, look, radio friendly is a thing. So when I heard that, I was like, okay, this is
12:49probably shortlisted for option number two. Until you heard the lyrics. I mean, it would be a great
12:54radio track, but I mean, I feel like some parents, even when you watch the movie in theaters and they
12:58change the lyrics, it's like, you know, people aren't used to Taylor talking like this. And I don't
13:03know if Travis is excited or like, wait, everybody's talking about, you know, wood. Taylor literally
13:09drops F-bombs, like right on the next track. Yeah. I mean, going back to reputation,
13:13I remember when people were like, she cusses now? Yeah. Like she's growing up, like it's part of it.
13:19It didn't, you know, it didn't derail her career that suddenly she's rated, you know, PG-13 R language.
13:24So I'm sure with the entendres and everything, like, come on. I'm sure Travis loves it and they
13:30definitely call him Redwood in that locker room. And of course, we talked about actually romantic,
13:34but let's fast forward to father figure, another song that people are saying could be written
13:39about another pop star. I mean, you never know. That's the power of songwriting, right? Like,
13:44people can all have their own opinions on it. Taylor is the only one. And will she ever confirm
13:49who songs are about? Probably not. But I love father figure. This is another one where sonically,
13:54I was like, this is a really fun song. The George Michael interpolation, I didn't really hear at first,
14:01um, but I get her, I, I get why that she wanted to credit him. I think it's like the 2025 version
14:08of the man. Um, she's like really sticking it down and, um, yeah, just speaking her mind.
14:14And I love how you compared it to the man because my first thought when listening to this song was,
14:19wait, is Taylor a whiskey drinker? Because that, that seems tough.
14:22Yeah, I don't believe that either. I can't. She's definitely a vodka diet coat girl. Like,
14:31yeah, she canceled. She mentioned her whiskey sours and canceled. Yeah, so maybe, maybe she's
14:37shifting tastes. I know. Maybe, you know, Jack Daniel's gonna sponsor. I don't know. All right.
14:42And before we jump into the top three guys, we do have some big news to talk about and it's over
14:47on the Billboard 200. Check it out. Taylor Swift has topped the Billboard 200 albums chart.
14:52Now I can see it all. I can see it all. Taylor's 15th number one album, The Life of a Showgirl,
15:00is shattering so many records with 4 million albums sold, outselling Adele's 3.38 million
15:08first week sales of 25 to become the biggest sales week for an album of all time. She stated,
15:15I have 4 million thank yous I want to send to the fans and 4 million reasons to feel even more proud
15:20of this album than I already was. Thank you for the lovely bouquet. Thank you for the lovely bouquet.
15:27She now has more number one albums than both Drake and Jay-Z, both of whom have 14 each.
15:33Only the Beatles have more, with 19 number one albums. Congrats, Taylor Swift.
15:39All right. She has broken so many records, toppled Adele's 3.38 million sales total for biggest sales
15:49in a week, among so many other things. It's her 15th number one album. So congrats to Taylor with
15:55The Life of a Showgirl. How are we feeling about the success? I think it's so crazy how she keeps
15:59getting bigger and bigger and bigger. Like obviously we knew when Tortured Poets came out that this was
16:04going to be her biggest album yet. It was 34 tracks long. It was coming off of the Aeros tour. We were
16:09like, this is going to be enormous. This one, it only has 12 songs. We've had some break in between
16:15the Aeros tour and now like, and now this is even bigger than any of the, like any album that she's
16:20ever done for and any album period. You know, like for Adele in 25, she had held that record for
16:26a decade and now here we are 10 years later and of course Taylor is the one to break it. And I think it's,
16:32it's amazing. And listen, I love the shout outs to Adele, but I got to do a personal shout out
16:36here to my girl, Britney Spears. She was one of the first women, I think the first woman ever to
16:41sell over a million in a week with 1.3. Oops, I did it again, right? That's not true Tetris,
16:45but that's okay. Give me the truth. What's the truth, Trevor? At least in the Lumine era,
16:50uh, let's go back to the Bodyguard soundtrack, Whitney Houston, 1992. That's a soundtrack.
16:56The second though. But Britney, Britney had the record for the longest time when Oops,
17:00I did it again was the 1.3 million sellers. Taylor came close, you know, 1989 and a few things,
17:05but it wasn't until Adele. So yeah, Britney had that record for about 15 years. So, you know,
17:10definitely look, I mean, legendary shit like you ain't, you know, I don't, I don't need to say it.
17:14So shout out to, uh, Britney and Britney Spears and also Whitney too. And the Bodyguard and you know,
17:20I love how you tried to slide the Bodyguard in there and I love my Whitney Houston, but that was not a
17:24solo female record. Okay. Just reminding you there, Trevor. Okay. Now you tell me why you,
17:30why you bought the Bodyguard? Did you buy for the Soul System or the Aaron Neville cover or, you know,
17:35We're getting off track here. We're getting off track.
17:38Nah, you bought a single-win Houston record. So shout out to the GOAT.
17:42Listen, we're going to go on a whole nother tangent. We got to get back to the charts.
17:46Here are the top three Taylor Swift songs on the Hot 100.
17:50Elizabeth Taylor is at three.
17:57Why do you like Elizabeth Taylor so much? I just love that song.
18:00I love how the beat drops. It's my favorite song on the album.
18:07Opalite dances at number two.
18:14People wanted like a glitter pen, like very girly poppy song and it really encapsulates
18:19that.
18:25And I feel like with my injury and everything,
18:28I feel like I resonate with Opalite because it's like you're turning darkness into light.
18:33And you're making a beautiful piece of it for yourself, you know?
18:36Yes.
18:36I love it.
18:42In debuting at number one is Taylor's 13th chart topper,
18:47the fate of Ophelia.
18:54Yeah, I really like that one and I like the music video as well.
18:58I think it has good vibes, the regular Taylor good vibes.
19:02I swore my loyalty to me, myself and I.
19:07Do you know the TikTok dance?
19:08I know the part, I know like the vibes.
19:09It's a pop.
19:10Iconic.
19:11It's a pop.
19:11And the music video was what?
19:12It was amazing.
19:13It was amazing.
19:14One of her best.
19:14When you go like that, that's the part that I know.
19:16Yeah, they teach you it here.
19:17And there are our top three, including Taylor's 13th number one on the Hot 100.
19:30Let's start talking about Elizabeth Taylor.
19:32I love that song on first listen.
19:34How are you guys feeling?
19:35I was the exact same way on first listen.
19:37I immediately was like, oh my God, is this a reputation vault track?
19:41Like, where are we?
19:42What year is it?
19:43I will say also, I did hear reputation on that a lot too.
19:46Like, it makes me wonder if she's like, been in the studio starting to, I don't know,
19:51like, have all the re-recordings of those songs.
19:54And maybe this was one that she, I don't know, just feeling that vibe.
19:57And this was kind of a result of that.
20:00So.
20:00Open that reputation Easter egg.
20:02Yeah.
20:03Burton to this Taylor, ready for it.
20:05Maybe.
20:06Maybe.
20:07Maybe we've been, yeah, slowly setting the seeds up for an Elizabeth Taylor,
20:10Taylor Swift sort of track for a long time now.
20:14Maybe.
20:15I don't know.
20:15It's hard to say if we'll get rep TV.
20:17This seems like as close as we're going to get and I'm happy for it.
20:20Yeah, and I mean, the song is like such a part of that era,
20:24but then it's such a different song when you put it next to Opalite,
20:27which is one of the most fun songs on this album.
20:30100% agree.
20:33When I heard Opalite at 12.01 AM or whatever time it was when this album dropped,
20:38I was dancing in my room by myself.
20:41It is such a bop.
20:42No, and speaking of dancing, I DJed a wedding last weekend
20:45where Opalite was already the bride's recessional song.
20:49So people are already celebrating their weddings with Opalite.
20:52Wow.
20:53Wait, wait, you DJed this wedding when?
20:55Like the day after the album dropped?
20:56This was Saturday.
20:57So yes, the album came out on Friday.
21:00I DJed the wedding the next day and the bride was like,
21:02hey, I've changed the song I want to walk out to and it's Opalite.
21:06Wow.
21:08Literally changing lives, changing wedding plans out here.
21:11Yeah.
21:11That's impact.
21:12That's music industry.
21:14I get it though.
21:15It's like sparkly, it's twinkly, it feels a little disc.
21:18It's like, I don't know, it's perfect wedding vibe.
21:20Definitely also, I mean, to go back to the single conversation when I heard,
21:23I'm like, oh, this could definitely be like a good follow up.
21:25Exactly.
21:25Totally.
21:26You know, we're kind of getting, I mean, obviously it's like winter,
21:28so sometimes things get a little slower, but it's like, it's romantic.
21:30It's got a Valentine's vibe.
21:31It's fun.
21:32It keeps, you know, lighthearted.
21:33Something we definitely didn't see really with the last album.
21:35So I think if this album is really about to be more fun and more colorful and bright out there,
21:39I think Opalite is really a good, a good symbol of what this album is.
21:43It's definitely one of her glittery gel pen songs,
21:46which she has called some of her pop songs before.
21:49It's very bouncy and I really like that ABBA-esque.
21:53Also new vocabulary word in the mix for a lot of people.
21:55I don't think many folks knew what Opalite was.
21:57I definitely didn't.
21:59I think it was a great song before last Friday.
22:00So shout out to Taylor Swift, SAT.
22:03Yeah.
22:04And of course I can't verify this because I don't remember where I read it,
22:07but I think it was more requested at radio than the next song,
22:11which is our number one, The Fate of Ophelia.
22:14I mean, of course, everybody's doing the dance on TikTok.
22:17It's a hit.
22:17It's a smash.
22:18How do you guys feel about it?
22:20Perfect single, no notes.
22:24What can you say?
22:25I do think it's a great single to start off with.
22:28And obviously, historically, we've talked about how Taylor sometimes
22:31doesn't always pick the best songs to be the lead single from her albums.
22:34I think she did a great job this time.
22:36And maybe she has other people advising her and helping her,
22:39but like, The Fate of Ophelia, it's a bop.
22:41It's great.
22:41It's dancy.
22:42It's perfect for radio.
22:44I agree with you, Danielle.
22:45I think it's great.
22:46I think along with the music video too,
22:48it just shows how grandeur the album's going to be.
22:52It's so fun and big.
22:53And yeah, that's exactly what being a showgirl is.
22:57And I don't want to lose sight.
22:58You know, I know there's so much about Taylor and the album itself
23:01that sort of the conversation about Taylor having a number one song
23:04might kind of get lost in the shuffle this week.
23:06But this is her 13th number one.
23:08So she's passing Madonna on the Hot 100 count for solo women with most number ones,
23:13only Mariah Carey, 19, Rihanna, 14, are above Taylor.
23:16So she's really moving up that all-time list.
23:18Also, that 15th number one is a record among solo artists.
23:22Only the Beatles have more number ones, period, with 19.
23:25You really think in particular that 15, 19 is really attainable for Taylor.
23:30And you know, at the pace she's going, Rihanna, 14, seems pretty doable.
23:34Mariah at 19?
23:36Hey, don't you?
23:37I mean, look.
23:39It seems possible.
23:41I'm just saying, you know, she's obviously got some people to pass, but it's in sight.
23:45So some of these big records for most number one albums, most number one songs,
23:49Taylor Swift certainly, you know, could be eyeing those in the next couple years.
23:52She's not done yet.
23:54And Danielle, of course you said 10 out of 10, no notes.
23:57But how about the music video as well?
23:59What'd you feel about it?
24:00The music video is so fun.
24:01It might be one of my favorite music videos she's ever done,
24:04especially seeing it on a big screen.
24:06I think that totally changed my perspective of the song.
24:09I already loved it on first listen, but with all of the visuals that came with it,
24:13it just was, it's so big.
24:15And that's exactly what I pictured this album being.
24:18Well, listen, I have loved talking about the life of a showgirl with you all,
24:22but what about next week?
24:24Any thoughts so far on what's going to happen?
24:26I think the fate of Ophelia is going to stay at number one.
24:29Definitely.
24:30I think it'll stay at number one.
24:31I think Opa Light will stay at number two.
24:33We're still going to see a lot of Taylor is my guess.
24:36But yeah, I think we'll see a big Taylor second week for sure.
24:40Come on.
24:40You know, there's going to be that one song that's going to go up, up, up.
24:44Golden baby.
24:46Is that, oh, is that, that's the song?
24:48That's the song.
24:48Well, certainly obviously like, you know,
24:50the former number one is always the top contender to get back in the top 10.
24:53So we'll see.
24:54I mean, I think they're right.
24:56I mean, obviously the streaming will be so big fate of Ophelia.
24:59We'll see how it picks up at radio.
25:00It already had a crazy debut.
25:02So as strong as it already is at radio support with the streaming should keep it there for a while.
25:07I mean, possibly, you know, the real question is, and this is, we're looking,
25:11we're looking far out, but sort of the anti hero vein.
25:13Is this the one of those things where Taylor comes in, dominates,
25:16maybe all the way to the Christmas season?
25:18I'm not sure whose album is really coming out that could challenge in the next couple of weeks.
25:21So if it's not something like Golden or something that really blows up on TikTok,
25:26could be one of those things where Taylor runs Q4 all the way until Tetris Mariah Carey
25:30makes that move.
25:31Or Brenda Lee.
25:32We can't forget Brenda Lee who got there.
25:34Hey, listen, come on.
25:35Do not, you are bringing up all the things I do not want to talk about today.
25:39You will get me on a whole tangent talking about Brenda Lee versus Mariah.
25:43Well, I don't hear much tangent.
25:45Oh, I don't know.
25:47No, but I can't wait.
25:48We have plenty more Hollywood shows between now and then.
25:50So we'll, you know, we'll have plenty of time to break it down.
25:53We can duke that out later.
25:55All right.
25:55Well, I'll see you guys next week when we do it all again.
25:57Thanks guys.
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