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Adrian Smith and Richie Kotzen Talk Lyrics | Louder
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Exclusive: Adrian Smith and Richie Kotzen, whose debut Smith/Kotzen album is out now, chat about songwriting and lyrics.
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00:00
The song I want to stay kind of started just with...
00:10
Sort of vibe. Obviously going to be a bit of a ballad.
00:14
Yeah, I remember that song, the chorus melody was driving me nuts.
00:20
Because you had that part and then I had the chorus and that melody I didn't know what to sing there.
00:26
I kept waking up every day with that.
00:30
Oh, she made me crazy.
00:34
One of the times, maybe I got lazy.
00:42
I didn't know what to sing there, you know, it took forever.
00:45
But I think some of the stuff, the lyrics is what we probably spent the most time on, isn't it?
00:50
Yeah, we sat for hours here. I mean, lyrics are important.
00:55
Mind you, when I was a kid growing up, some of the...
00:58
I didn't know what Ian Gillum was singing, you know, Highway Star, but it just sounded great.
01:04
So sometimes the lyrics just have to sound good.
01:07
But I think if you dig deeper, you want them to mean something.
01:11
And they've got to sing good as well, you know, the phonetically, you know, some words just don't sing.
01:16
And when people say the lyrics are that, when the singer says this song has got great lyrics,
01:21
they probably mean they can really get their voice around it and it just makes it easy to sing.
01:27
That's a great point. It is twofold because you have lyrics in a story that reads well.
01:33
So, you know, you read it. However, how it sings is really a big part of why a lyric gets written in a certain way.
01:41
One of the great songs, you know, even Sonata and all that, man, My Way, lots of vowels and stuff like that and stuff you can get, you know.
01:49
And also when we're writing, you know, with that, say, I want to stay.
01:54
And you're sort of searching, you've got the chords, you can hear the melody and then, you know, I want to stay.
02:00
And for some reason, you come up with a title and then you have to work around that and kind of make it make sense.
02:08
You know, because what comes to you is often what you stick with, you know, and you write a song around that.
02:15
Or the great thing about having something to bounce off is, you know, Richie will say, oh, I want to stay.
02:20
What was that you sang there? Oh, OK, that sounded good. You know, just keep that and work around it.
02:25
Well, that happened in, remember, Solar Fire.
02:28
Yeah.
02:29
And I remember you sitting there and saying, oh, that sounds because I had a rough sketch of a vocal on there.
02:35
And he said, oh, Solar Fire, that, that, that's interesting.
02:38
And I said, what would you come up with that?
02:40
And you actually said, oh, I thought that's what you were saying.
02:43
And I'm like, no, but I could be saying that. What does it mean?
02:46
You're sort of scatting and then that again, you know, and then, so how do you make it?
02:53
Sounds great. You know, whatever.
02:56
That's a great, really strong title or something like that. How do you make sense out of that?
03:01
Yeah.
03:02
So then the song was about, I thought, well, make it about something that's burning hot, glowing brightly.
03:07
You know, when you're in the prime of your life, you're on stage and you're, you know, you're having a great time in your life, really.
03:14
Just when you're at your peak, you know, Solar Fire, you're burning, you know, you're burning.
03:19
But that was the spirit of that song.
03:21
Yeah, that's great. And so he heard something.
03:24
I was just hearing the melody and the rhythm and he actually heard a lyric that I wasn't even saying.
03:29
But then once we established that, we wrote a song around it.
03:32
So these songs come in all different ways.
03:35
Yeah, they just seem to be, you sort of pull them out of the air, you know, they sort of, they just come to you.
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