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I Was Actually There - Season 2 Episode 1 -
Black Saturday Fire
Black Saturday Fire
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03:21I just want to make it through the day.
03:23We had no intentions of closing shop at the time.
03:26My exact words were there's a service station next door,
03:29there's a police station on the other side, we're safe in town.
03:36There was rumours that there was a fire in Kilmore East,
03:39but Kilmore East is a long way.
03:41If we had to drive there, it's like maybe half an hour.
03:44So it's just like another fire somewhere else, don't worry about it.
03:47For that fire to reach us that same day, it wasn't conceivable.
03:52Normally that would take several days to travel that distance.
03:56I really can't remember the time that we saw smoke in the distance.
04:00I posted something on Facebook to let people know that there might be a problem,
04:04but you don't want to be histrionic either, although I'm quite good at that.
04:10And then I got a phone call from a guy I work for, from Whittlesea.
04:14He could see the fire heading our way and he rang me
04:17and told me that it was coming and it was coming fast.
04:20He said, this thing is an animal.
04:23And then I remember ringing the acting sarge at the time during the day
04:27and he said, oh, it's turned a bit proverbial, Kilmore's alive,
04:31but there's a fire that's just started in Murrindindy.
04:34And Murrindindy, King Lake's here, Murrindindy's to the north.
04:37And with the northerly winds, I'm thinking, oh, yeah, this could be the worry.
04:41The radio started to crackle. We got the call for our tanker to go round to Murrindindy.
04:46You start to get concerned imminently things could get very, very pear shaped.
04:51So they always recommend that you don't stay unless you're well prepared.
04:54If you're well prepared, you can stay.
04:56I had a sprinkler system on the roof of the house,
04:59which I only just recently before the fires turned on to make sure it worked.
05:05I had like a ring main that ran around the house with fire hydrants,
05:09with 36 metre hose reels. I thought I was prepared.
05:18At home there was my sister-in-law, their children and my father.
05:23My sister-in-law had actually rung and said she could actually see from where we live,
05:27flames coming from the distance.
05:29My brother Ross, he sort of panicked a little.
05:32He said, look, I'll bring the family and dad here so we're all together.
05:36It wasn't long after that that the fire broke out at King Lake West.
05:40We didn't think that that was anything to do with the Kilmore Fire.
05:42As far as we were concerned, the Kilmore Fire was still miles away.
05:45My wife was very panicked and she had, I remember, my daughter under one arm.
05:50All she had on was like a navvy.
05:52She put her in the car and me son and she sort of pleaded with me to go.
05:58I said, well, if you want to go, go now.
06:00Because then she went to get some things, like photos, albums and stuff like that.
06:04I said, if you're going to go, just go now.
06:06So she went with nothing except for the kids.
06:08I remember saying to her, well, don't worry, everything will be right.
06:11I'm here.
06:12One of our firefighters yelled out that he could see smoke one ridge away from where the fire station is.
06:18I was actually thinking, oh, my God, have we got a fire bug running down the road lighting these fires?
06:23And I heard this noise and I thought, that's like a jet plane.
06:28And then I realised it was the fire, the noise of the fire.
06:31Two elderly people that lived in Humevale had come and said, look, Isabella, we just escaped our burning house.
06:38My house is burnt.
06:40And I looked at her and I thought, are you sure?
06:42And she goes, yeah, yeah, the fire is here.
06:44It's already here.
06:46And at that moment I saw this huge fireball on the trees vaporising into these like towers of flames.
06:53We got called out to a fire in King Lake and we responded both trucks.
06:58We put it out, we suppressed it.
06:59So that was manageable.
07:00So we were patting ourselves on the back, but I was so focused on that one fire, I didn't see that there was another fire and another fire and another fire until I looked up and I went, we're in trouble.
07:13It was so mad at how quick everything evolved.
07:17Everything was on fire and it was around us and it was behind us.
07:21It was everywhere.
07:22I was in the Victoria Police Airwind in the search and rescue helicopter.
07:26So my task was to go down the wire and do the rescues.
07:30My heart just bashed about inside my big cage.
07:36I just thought that's it, we're going to die now.
07:39Got a call from the Channel 9 helicopter and they said there's people, about four of them trapped.
07:45Do you reckon you come out and rescue them?
07:47And I have to admit when I saw the police helicopter and I don't know about you, but I'm the same with police cars.
07:52I thought, oh shit, we're in trouble because we didn't leave.
07:55Like, why didn't you leave?
07:56When you get winched down, you're doing an assessment of the area.
07:59I could see the flames.
08:01I thought the house was going to catch on fire very quickly.
08:04A lady came up to me and she just had this, what we call a thousand yard stare.
08:10He was a bit like a character out of Terminator.
08:13So he had the helmet with all the built in everything.
08:17So there wasn't much of him you could actually see.
08:19So I just said to her, hi honey, I'm home.
08:22You've burnt the toast.
08:24You'd normally say something to someone in a situation that breaks them out of that trance.
08:28I can't remember what was said between he and I, but we laughed about something.
08:33And you think about it now.
08:35You think, how do we laugh?
08:37A red four-wheel drive stopped on my front yard where I was standing.
08:42And it was the CFA.
08:44There was a guy in the passenger seat and he said to me,
08:48you know there's a fire coming.
08:52And I said, how far away is he getting here?
08:54And he said to me, minutes.
08:56He said, are you staying?
08:59And I said, yes.
09:00And he just looked at me.
09:06Just never forget that look.
09:08The radio traffic was hectic.
09:10There was so much fire activity starting to pop up in different areas.
09:15And so many different brigades trying to get onto the radio at the same time.
09:19You just couldn't get through.
09:21We then got a call that there was actual fire 5Ks south of Marysville.
09:28We did go out, but as this fire front got going, we realised that we weren't going to be able to achieve anything.
09:37So we fell back to Marysville.
09:39And then one last thing, as he drove off, he said, have you got a coat to put on?
09:43I said, yeah.
09:44He goes, we'll put it on now.
09:45And as they drove out, the fire hit.
09:48He put the strap around my back.
09:52I could feel the wire going slack.
09:54And when I looked up, the helicopter was bucking up and down.
09:58Because the fire sort of consumed so much oxygen from around where we were,
10:02both of us being winched up, may have pulled the helicopter down.
10:06And I said, I'm not going without my dog or the people.
10:11And he said, everyone's coming.
10:12I looked up at the helicopter and I was getting the signal to disconnect from the wire.
10:16My first thought was, oh, bugger.
10:18And then I disconnected.
10:21And they said, if you stay there, you're going to perish.
10:24I heard the noise first, the smashing and crashing sort of sound.
10:28It's like something coming through the bush, like a monster.
10:31And then all these leaves blew off the troops.
10:35And then it was fire.
10:37And I felt just weak when I saw it.
10:41We were going through the, well, what do we do now?
10:44The best we can try and do at the moment is return to the station,
10:48save the shed so that we can remain operational,
10:51sort of defensive mode as opposed to, you know, an attack mode.
10:54I remember walking outside to go to work and the clouds were bubbling, like upside down milk curdling.
11:06When I drove up over the top of the hill down into King Lake, there was nothing untoward.
11:11It was just a normal hot day, what I could see.
11:14Yeah, a bit of smoke around.
11:15Our second truck had gone to a particular house that they thought they could save.
11:20My partner was on the other truck.
11:22The driveway was fully involved with fire and they couldn't get out even if they had wanted to.
11:27As I'm pulling into the King Lake West CFA, the police car comes out and does a U-turn and starts heading back to King Lake.
11:33I yelled out the window, where are you going?
11:35And he goes, there's a fatality on top of the hill.
11:38I go, nah.
11:39I've only just gone through there three minutes to go.
11:41There is nothing on the hill.
11:42He goes, nah, we've got to go.
11:44So I did a U-turn and there was a wall of smoke.
11:47And I'm thinking, where did that come from?
11:50To drive away from that crew and my partner and leave them to fend for themselves, that was really, really tough.
11:58And then all of a sudden these headlights just started rushing through the smoke.
12:02And I'm thinking, we can't go any further.
12:05Like, we can't see.
12:06I'm looking out the window of the restaurant and I'm actually quite petrified.
12:10I had one staff with me who had gone home, set up the house with her kids and husband.
12:16She said to me, come to my place, I'm all set up and we'll be fine.
12:21Suddenly it just starts getting dark.
12:23It was pitch black.
12:26The actual sky had flame in it.
12:29The smoke itself was igniting in the air.
12:32We thought we've got to get out of here.
12:33There would have been 30 cars.
12:36And as loud as I could yell, King Lake West CFA, get to King Lake West CFA now.
12:42And as we were driving, the side of the roads were igniting.
12:45And I thought, that was that close.
12:48I've got everybody corralled.
12:50Is there any way that we can drive out?
12:52I said to him, there is a four-wheel drive track in this direction.
12:56I said, right, this is probably our only chance.
12:59Let's go.
13:00The driveway was on fire.
13:03That was pretty scary, driving into flames.
13:06Chopper was continually saying, yeah, keep going, keep going.
13:09But what was amazing was the amount of animals that were coming with us.
13:13There were deers, a koala.
13:16Echidnas, birds.
13:18And they all dropped into line next to us.
13:21They probably think that, yes, they're heading into safety.
13:24We'll follow them.
13:29The house was a western red cedar house.
13:31It may as well be made out of matchsticks.
13:33The fires, sometimes licking it and I'm just hosing it.
13:37There's steam coming off it and then a lot of embers started coming
13:40and big branches just dropping out of the sky on fire.
13:44I'm stuck at my staff's home.
13:47Her husband's on the roof trying to border down something.
13:51There's fireballs flying through the air.
13:53Four small children in the house, all petrified.
13:56There was one baby screaming.
13:58I heard the dogs.
13:59I could hear them all howling and I could see the gate.
14:02I just kicked it and it just fell apart because it was all on fire.
14:05And two of them ran out and one was still howling in the box.
14:11The police helicopter was guiding us to get out into some open area.
14:15We were okay because we could see that we were, you know,
14:18the other side of this wall of fire and flames.
14:21And at that point, Terminator, as we're calling him,
14:24he got out of the car and he ran into a field
14:28and the police chopper landed and scooped him up and off they went.
14:31And I was looking at the house, hosing the house.
14:34And as I'm hosing it, the water stops.
14:37I could hear the windows in the house breaking.
14:40And then I heard this screaming type sound.
14:43The house like streamed.
14:45It was like the air coming out or going in or whatever.
14:49I was so surprised how quick it went.
14:51All the cedar boards burnt off.
14:53And it was a frame.
14:54It looked like when you build a house.
14:55And there was one particular young boy, Nicholas.
14:58He kept saying to me, Isabella, we're going to die.
15:00And I go, no, we're not.
15:01We're going to be fine.
15:02I'm sort of looking out the window,
15:04looking at the flames getting closer to the house.
15:07And I thought we're gone.
15:08We're trapped.
15:09I started moving backwards and the shed then exploded.
15:12I remember the flash of like that white sort of flash.
15:17My eyelids were like stuck shut.
15:20I think they call it welded shut.
15:22They were stuck shut.
15:23And I ran into a fence.
15:25And I fell forward over it.
15:27And it's like barbed wire on it as well.
15:29I was stuck.
15:31I just thought this is it.
15:34And I can remember in desperation going, you know, God, Buddha, Jesus, angels, anyone out there, if I'm going to go make a click.
15:44Then the fence like collapsed.
15:46And I just pulled myself out of the fence, like wiggled, and just started crawling towards the dam.
15:51I pulled my coat over my head and just laid there.
15:55The voice in my head did say, no, it's not your time.
15:58And miraculously, the winds changed and the flames went away from the house.
16:09We got a red flag warning to tell us that the wind change was coming at six o'clock and it was bang on.
16:15It was right on six o'clock.
16:16The whole day, nothing had happened.
16:18Marysville was cooling off.
16:20I look up and there's a pyrolytic cloud forming above the town.
16:25It was huge.
16:26It really did happen very quickly.
16:28Five minutes of being normal.
16:30We got away with it to we haven't got away with it.
16:32This is really serious.
16:34The last time that I went back to home, Liz was on the phone.
16:39Dalton was at the door and I knew it was, I only had time for a quick, a quick hello.
16:44I said, just make good decisions, mate.
16:47You'll be right.
16:48When I went up the back to say to my husband, we've got to go, he wouldn't come.
16:55Like a lot of stubborn men, they were going to stay and defend.
16:58And I remember screaming at him and literally screaming, I just want you.
17:03I just want you.
17:04You know, and he just said, no, go.
17:06We came back to the station and there was people starting to turn up within a couple of minutes.
17:13It was like someone turned the lights out.
17:15Well, I jumped in my car and got around the corner and there's a great big tree across the road.
17:21So I can't get out of town.
17:22And then I went back to my house.
17:24At the time, the danger was winds.
17:27We're going to be killed by a tree.
17:28Somewhere in those minutes of it turning black, we lost water.
17:32So we retreated inside.
17:34When I got back to the house, Terry's not there.
17:37So I rang my sons and told them that I love them and I don't think I'm going to make it.
17:43And there's a sea of embers comes down the street.
17:46Like just, it was like water flowing and it would have been a metre or so deep.
17:53And then everything, everything was on fire.
17:57My son rang my husband.
18:00So Terry came back.
18:02We ran out to the car.
18:04By this stage, it was very hard to breathe.
18:06We went down to the roundabout near the crossways and watched the town burn around us, really.
18:16We went back to King Lake in the helicopter.
18:22Still houses burning.
18:23It just looked like an apocalypse.
18:27By this stage, I think you just want to escape.
18:30It's a little bit like anything to get out of this environment.
18:34Ended up heading towards the CFA shed.
18:37There were over 200 residents in our shed.
18:40Husbands, wives, children, dogs, cats.
18:44There was a cockatoo.
18:45You name it, they were there.
18:47Oh my God, it was just like a war zone.
18:50There were people burnt, people crying.
18:53I've never lived through a war, but I could imagine that's what it was like.
18:57It was just horrible.
18:58They'd come to the station saying, where do I go?
19:01And the only thing we could say to them was, well, park your car and get inside.
19:04Because it wasn't safe to be on the roads.
19:06Then over the radio came a welfare check, which is a check on someone.
19:10And there was a car accident.
19:13And that's the one that we were going to earlier on.
19:16The fatality.
19:17And as we pulled up, there was Ross who owns the Italian restaurant Caporossi's.
19:24And I got out.
19:25I said, what's going on?
19:26He said, I've lost Papa.
19:27The car had hit the back seat and he couldn't get out and perished in the fire.
19:34I still had no idea what happened to my family.
19:37I kept ringing Dad's number.
19:38He wouldn't pick up.
19:40And so I'm really quite getting quite edgy about this.
19:44We had fires breaking out, like spot fires breaking out all around the station.
19:47We were trying to suppress.
19:48And there was a moment in that evening.
19:50I looked up at the sky thinking, I still don't know if my other half's alive.
19:54And I started to get really overwhelmed.
19:56And then I looked back at the door and there was a lady standing there with her two daughters.
20:01And I looked at them and I realised I can't cry.
20:03If they see me cry, they're going to cry.
20:06People see the uniform on and you are an emblem of help.
20:12But I've got no control of this.
20:16And the hard part was everyone was coming for help.
20:20It's still all very dark.
20:22You know, all of the buildings were just piles of rubble.
20:25We put the radio on in our ute and it said,
20:29Erissel Buxton and Narberthonga are under threat.
20:31And I remember saying, well, it's more than under threat.
20:34You know, it was gone really.
20:36I was a little bit frantic about Liz.
20:39So I wanted to call round to the house.
20:42There was nothing left at all of our house or anything.
20:46It was very obvious that the house had gone.
20:50And that's when we actually found Liz and Dalton in that space.
21:00I can remember just staggering back after we found Liz and Dalton,
21:07like my legs wouldn't hold me.
21:09Yeah.
21:10Realising what you've lost in that instant just drains everything from you.
21:20I can, I remember that feeling.
21:22I'm living that feeling while we're talking right now.
21:25Yeah.
21:26Two police officers had come to the CFA shed.
21:29I thought, I'll find out some information.
21:31Surely they can tell me something.
21:33We ran into Isabella and we had to tell her that her father had perished.
21:37It was just really surreal.
21:40It's like, can it possibly be happening,
21:43all this happening in just one normal day?
21:53One of the firefighters had managed to get through to my partner
21:56and he said, I've just spoken to him and he's safe.
21:59It was very emotional.
22:01And I remember when they got back to the station,
22:03just walking up and just giving him the biggest hug.
22:06And then he pushed me away and he said, I've got work to do.
22:10I always remember this feeling of those leather gloves that the firefighters wear.
22:14I remember that on my face, like touching me.
22:17He said, can you squeeze my hand for me?
22:20And I squeezed his hand and he said to me, he goes,
22:22well, if you can do that, you'll be right.
22:25You'll make it.
22:26There was some friends in town and that's where I went that night.
22:30They took me to the Northern Hospital.
22:32I can hear him talking, doctors and stuff.
22:34They go, he doesn't know where his wife and kids are.
22:36He's all stressed.
22:37I don't remember a lot.
22:38I remember the family being really kind to me
22:41and then just wanting to just close my eyes.
22:45I had to go and tell Callum.
22:48Found him straight away and told him that his mum and brother were gone.
22:55It was a very emotional time.
22:58When my mum came in, she just said, oh, Jason.
23:01And I just remember her touching me.
23:03And then she told me that she'd spoken to my wife.
23:07She said, it wasn't your time.
23:10I was a pretty young buck reporter at Channel 9.
23:23The night before, we've been told 14 people have lost their lives.
23:26And I don't know, it's this helpless feeling of bad stuff's happening
23:30and you're just watching it.
23:32On a day like that, you've got information coming from a trillion different directions.
23:35It was impossible, impossible to keep up with the number of fires
23:40in every corner of the state.
23:42I just turned up to the newsroom at 5.45
23:45and the chief of staff was just like,
23:47something might have happened in Marysville, go check it out.
23:50Jump in the car with the cameraman Dean.
23:53And so we start driving out there and all of a sudden
23:56the greeny-browny trees stop and everything's black.
23:59And there's big tree trunks that have fallen across the road.
24:03That means no one else is driven in here.
24:05We're the first people coming in here.
24:07And the further we got in, the worse it got.
24:10It looked like the end of the world.
24:13And eventually, we started rolling into Marysville.
24:17Literally, not a building standing.
24:20Just the complete destruction of this town.
24:25And no one knows what's happened here.
24:27I was still working.
24:28Everywhere you went, there was visions of disbelief.
24:34Like, you go past the mud-brick homes and they had exploded.
24:40And then you got the brick homes with steel beams
24:42that were like twisties.
24:45Like, it has to have been that hot.
24:48We spoke to a lady there, Sharon, who rocked up.
24:51And I just remember she had a blanket over her shoulders.
24:54We all had fire plants, but then the trees went over the road
24:58and our fire plants, we just, it was just too fast.
25:01He was quite young then at the time.
25:03And he was very kind and I couldn't really talk to him actually.
25:08It's such a small community.
25:10Yeah.
25:11And, um, yeah.
25:13You could just feel that they'd just witnessed help.
25:18In nearby King Lake, the mood was equally grim.
25:21My dad was involved in a four-car collision there
25:25and I couldn't get him out and he was still dead in the car there.
25:32When I saw my brother for the first time the morning after,
25:35we hugged one another and we felt so guilty
25:40that we hadn't been able to save Dad.
25:43It was just something horrible.
25:46We started looking for welfare checks.
25:49In the first hour and a half, I located 11 bodies.
25:53News of the deaths themselves started to trickle through.
25:56Someone would arrive at the station and say,
25:58oh, another person's died and another person,
26:00then another person, this whole family's gone.
26:03I couldn't fathom the scale of disaster within 12 hours.
26:10You've lost everything, yeah.
26:12We've lost our community, our friends, our town.
26:15It's all gone.
26:17I mean, we lost 22 friends.
26:19So, you know, to go to 22 funerals was pretty tough.
26:22I think for me the moment of the fire itself is not the one that haunts me.
26:29It's the days and weeks after.
26:31Living through trauma is like quicksand.
26:35You try and crawl out and you go further down.
26:37I could not get out of fight or flight mode.
26:41I couldn't.
26:42It just wore me out inside.
26:45I did not want to live.
26:47No.
26:48I mean, I just was too hard.
26:50I kept saying, well, if I just disappear, nobody will know anyway.
26:53Nobody's going to miss me.
26:54I had survivor guilt for a long time.
26:57Probably to some extent I still do.
26:59People perished and you didn't.
27:01And, you know, I've got my family.
27:03So glad that they survived.
27:05And it dawns on you that other people haven't.
27:07I used to do Pilates on the mountain.
27:10It was a young girl whose family had all been lost.
27:14She had Burns bandages on, you know, the suit.
27:19And I just thought, shit.
27:22And she just started laughing to herself.
27:25I lost it.
27:28I had to leave.
27:29Because how could someone who'd been through so much...
27:33...love?
27:37It was upsetting.
27:39But there was also that community feeling of support.
27:43I can talk to somebody and they'll understand.
27:45Whereas if I go somewhere else, they won't understand.
27:49You were part of that.
27:50If you weren't there, you're not part of that.
27:53There's no way that you can have a glimpse into it, really.
27:58We didn't want to leave because it was too much of my dad
28:02and the property.
28:03There's a lot of memories there that you want to hold on to.
28:06When I was well enough, someone loaned us a caravan.
28:10And that was it.
28:11We were back there.
28:12It was literally living in ash, the kids running around in it.
28:15I was going to rebuild.
28:16There was no second thoughts about that.
28:18Marysville's home.
28:20Every time you go to do something, it was like,
28:22there's so much to do and just...
28:24...that you feel like you're not really getting anywhere.
28:26And so then you get to the point where it's like,
28:28you don't even want to get up.
28:29I did cry when our foundation slab was poured.
28:33And that was on the first year anniversary of the fire.
28:36In the end, we did get there.
28:38A lot of people help you out as well.
28:39Like, you don't know how many good people there are out there
28:42until something like this happens.
28:44When we reopened the restaurant, it was probably mixed emotions.
28:48It was like loss of something and the rebirth of something else.
28:53As the world turns, it always turns in different ways.
28:57I'd struck up a relationship with Kerry, my now wife,
29:03within those couple of years.
29:05Kerry and the two kids were all moved into the house.
29:09There was a mighty feeling to be home.
29:13And our town's back and beautiful now.
29:15You wouldn't even know there was a fire.
29:17Great place to visit.
29:18I'm very proud of the brigade.
29:20I'm very proud of having been part of that day.
29:23I just wish I could wind the clock back
29:25and tell people, get the hell out of here.
29:27I miss me.
29:29I miss the old me.
29:31I'm proud to say I'm from King Lake.
29:33But it took a toll.
29:35I don't fear death at all now.
29:38I don't think I even fear fire
29:41because I really know in my heart of hearts
29:43what's going to happen will happen.
29:44Sometimes at the front of the property,
29:47like late in the afternoon when the sun is like really red
29:49and it makes the sky sort of red
29:51and there's a strong westerly wind
29:53and a lot of leaves are blowing.
29:55That can trigger those memories of that day.
29:59And yeah, the best thing to do is just walk away.
30:03I think that you walk alongside grief.
30:05I don't think it's a hill to be climbed
30:07or something to get over.
30:09You just cope by putting one foot in front of it each day
30:13and shuffle along and then you'll get there, yeah.
30:18�� his friend of mine,
30:19I guess maybe only covered people off the roof
30:20and I see how you cause offと思gery.
30:21It's like that, yeah.
30:22I think I'm sure I'm the son.
30:24I'm my son.
30:25I live in the room
30:26and he didn't have nothing for you.
30:27But it should be armed.
30:28Dass they that manassee,
30:30heroyED incomes through un Juneteenth times
30:30and the sisterhood of energy may not be passing away
30:31but it's behind him.
30:32So I will fight.
30:33So if I believe that you can tür surprised
30:34when the angels to come and see me
30:35in a valley where everything is narrow
30:37and available I think that there's통
30:39once.
30:40That āk dessas times
30:41it is the virginity.
30:42So I know that this allow me
30:43what I want to do is to tell you
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