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Peter Tuchman, The Einstein Of Wall Street | Government Shutdown,Q4 Outlook, New Record Highs
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Peter Tuchman joined us on Benzinga's Premarket Playbook to talk about what he is seeing out there in the market.
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Let me bring Peter on here and see if she has an update here. Peter, good morning. Happy Thursday.
00:05
How are you doing today? I'm great. I'm great. How's everybody doing? We're doing good. What
00:09
do you got for us today? What are you seeing out there? You know what? Look, we've had,
00:13
and it's absolutely amazing. On the last day of the quarter, we had this massive $4 billion
00:17
buy program coming into the exchange, which is kind of baffling for the last day. Normally in
00:22
a market in a quarter where you've got nothing but upside, you usually would have profit taking
00:27
and not huge buy orders coming in. But it's almost as if there's just this massive influx
00:32
of interest and excitement about just putting money to work in the market. So that was the
00:38
last day of the quarter. Yesterday, the first day of the quarter, the market did not engage
00:41
the government shutdown at all. It really didn't care. I mean, the market tells you what it
00:45
thinks of all this information. That's a big deal. But yesterday on the close, we once again
00:51
got a $4 billion buy program on the close. So the amount of money that's being put to work
00:56
and going into the market. Normally in the beginning of quarters, you do have a big influx
01:01
on the buy side, but it's almost, you know, the market is not engaging this government shutdown
01:05
stuff. How long it stays on is the question. But you know what? Historically, normally the
01:12
last time, I guess each year, they usually, you know, in the witching hour, they usually
01:16
make some kind of a deal. Obviously the agenda around that right now is not happening. But you
01:22
know what? Once again, record highs across the board in the market yesterday. So it's
01:28
baffling to me how much. I mean, we're seeing good volatility, solid volume, $1.3 billion
01:34
on the tape in New York yesterday. Just crazy, irrational enthusiasm around the markets.
01:39
And you know what? At the end of the day, that's going to pan out for trading, trading futures
01:45
and trading even a lot of the equity names. So Peter, I got a really quick question for
01:50
you here. Are you expecting any type of change in volume with the Yom Kippur holiday here today?
01:56
You know what?
01:57
Lighter volume?
01:58
No. To be honest, no, not at all. I mean, we, you know, we've been talking about seasonality
02:03
through August and September. It never showed up. We had tons of volume. We did not have
02:08
any weakness in the market at all. August, September closed out in super positive territory.
02:13
And, you know, at the end of the day, sure, I'm sure most of the Jews are not at work today.
02:17
But at the end of the day, there's a lot. People are probably covering them.
02:21
And historically, yes, there's been a little bit lighter than usual volume on Jewish holidays.
02:26
But I don't think we're going to see it today because there's so many moving parts of the
02:29
market right now that I think the flow is going to be there.
02:32
OK, and then let me ask you one more follow up question. We talked yesterday about the potential
02:37
up move in the market being related to inflows for the first of the month. And sometimes that
02:42
can really kind of carry over to a second or maybe even a third day, depending on how much
02:47
buying there is to do. You spoke about the buy program right there at the close. Is that part
02:51
of the reason why we're looking at a positive move here in the pre-market this morning? Do you
02:55
anticipate that to hold here today? I do. I do. I do. Yesterday we opened down, right,
03:02
basically that emotional reaction to the fact that the government shut down and people weren't clear
03:07
how much that was going to impact markets. But almost within the first hour of trading,
03:11
it completely reversed and we spent the rest of the day going towards record highs, which is where
03:16
we closed. And so, you know, the influxes on the close have been sizable coming the last two weeks
03:22
of that quarter. And as I said to you, normally in a quarter that's really bullish, you would normally
03:28
see profit taking at the end of it. You know, guys, funds are judged and graded on what their P&L looks
03:34
like at the end of the quarter. And sometimes they want to lock in some of the profits because
03:38
they don't know what's going on. They don't know what the impact, how long this government shutdown
03:43
is going to last and the impact on the market. They don't know about tariffs. Still, we're starting
03:48
to see a lot of impact on the consumer, on consumer spending, consumer confidence by tariffs,
03:54
right? We are seeing a huge spike in costs and expenses. Some are being absorbed by the company,
04:01
some are not. Walmart, Target are absorbing some, Amazon also absorbing some, and then some are
04:06
passing it on to the consumer. The volume we've seen is significant. It's really, look, beginning
04:12
of every month, you're going to see allocations come in on the buy side. But when you've got so
04:17
many potential looming things that could dislocate the market, at this point, it looks like nothing
04:22
can dislocate this rally. It is absolutely baffling. And they're not only just buying equities and
04:26
futures, they're buying everything that's not locked down. I mean, as David said,
04:30
the spectacular move in gold is extraordinary. Normally, gold is a flight of safety. When
04:37
markets go up, people are putting more pressure on gold. They're buying gold. They're buying
04:41
equities. They're buying everything that's not locked down. So a sizable volume.
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